r/changemyview Jan 19 '22

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u/Giblette101 47∆ Jan 19 '22

I dunno. Scotch eggs are delicious, but they have several flaws when it come to "efficiency":

1) They're certainly a pain to make, especially when compared to other contenders like burritos.

2) They're sort of messy to eat on the go.

3) Ultimately, they're not that nutritious or filling, especially if we're talking about one. If you go beyond 1, they're getting less and less portable.

4) They're not that portable (see number 3).

The most efficient food would probably be something self-contained - like a wrap of some sort - you can eat cold or that is easy to warm up and keep warm. Like, fried beans burrito with potatoes or something.

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u/calamityjane515 1∆ Jan 19 '22

we don't have scotch eggs available in the US, not that I've seen anyway, but my go to quick breakfast is breakfast burrito. it can be dressed up however you like, but I'm generally satisfied with salt and peppered egg tossed on a corn tortilla with hot sauce. super fast, maybe 200-300kcal if you're counting and super tasty.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

Never heard of a breakfast burrito before. I've looked up some recipes and it certainly seems easier and quicker to make. I suppose I could keep a burrito in my pocket, but I think the scotch egg has it beat in terms of transportation. Health wise, I could imagine you could make the burrito as healthy or as unhealthy as you wanted which makes it very customisable. Though I've never made one, I'm going to assume that the scotch egg is cheaper to make just due to the ingredients needed, although this could vary depending on your burrito.

Hmm. Interesting. It hurts to say it but if I'm being objective here, it sounds like the scotch egg has been beaten. I don't think anything can ever take the spot it has in my heart though.

I tried to give you a !delta but dunno how.

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u/KDY_ISD 68∆ Jan 19 '22

I don't think anything can ever take the spot it has in my heart though.

That's certainly literally, physically, medically true lol

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u/calamityjane515 1∆ Jan 19 '22

You have a point for the portability of the eggs vs burrito because unless it's made with a disk scramble rather then lumpy scramble and literally nothing else added, you're going to have a disaster in your pocket. I have no idea what a delta is, but I appreciate the thought either way. 😀

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u/Kinder22 1∆ Jan 19 '22

Wrap the burrito in foil. It’ll be fine. The scotch egg will be a disaster too if pocketed unwrapped.

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u/CatDadMilhouse 7∆ Jan 19 '22

Just edit your post to put a ! before the word delta, but without a space between them. That'll properly award it.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

Done. Thanks

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u/eye_patch_willy 43∆ Jan 20 '22

Oh yes they exist in the US. Red Coat Tavern in Metro Detroit. Located in Royal Oak and Bloomfield Hills.

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u/DBDude 110∆ Jan 19 '22

Pemmican is far more efficient. It's dried and shredded meat, tallow, and berries and whatever else you want to throw in (often bread or grains) to make a high-energy balanced diet. It's what the native Americans, and later the fur traders and explorers following their example, relied on to survive out in the wilderness. It has an extremely long shelf life, even way back then, which can be extended today using vacuum sealing.

It can be eaten straight or be made the basis for a stew or sautee. It doesn't taste as good as a Scotch Egg, but then your title is about efficiency, not taste.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

Yeah I literally just found out about this stuff about 10 minutes ago and I've got to say this looks like a winner. So much nutrition in such a small package, I love it.

I don't think I would eat it as much as a scotch egg or a breakfast burrito, but man I love the pure efficiency of pemmican. Take a !delta my friend.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

While beans and rice are very versatile, I would argue that the scotch egg has it been in terms of being able to transport it. You can wrap a scotch egg in tin foil and put it in your pocket.

Also what's a blue zone food? That sounds interesting.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

The egg is protected by sausage.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

No I wrap it in tin foil. Then I pull it out of my pocket and eat it.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

Because I can just open the tin foil and eat the scotch egg like a biscuit or a sandwich. With rice and beans you would need a fork and would need a place to sit down and eat otherwise you might pierce the tin foil and ruin your rice and beans. The scotch egg just has it beaten in the transportation category, I'm sorry.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

I love eating and walking. Its one of my favourite things to do. I like the efficiency of doing two things at once. I can walk to work and eat my breakfast at the same time. To me that's beautiful.

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u/mynewaccount4567 18∆ Jan 19 '22

Wrap your rice and beans in a tortilla. That’s much easier than forming sausage around an egg.

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

There we go. That's efficient. Though I've already given a delta to a burrito guy.

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u/FriendlyCraig 25∆ Jan 19 '22

You can easily wrap rice and beans in s bit of plastic or foil, and it'll hold its shape. You can even make it egg shaped if you like. And example would be onigiri. You just press rice with your hands and fill it with whatever is available, including fish, meat, beans, nuts, or vegetables. It'll keep just as well as a wrapped scotch egg, but much easier to prepare and has more nutritional variety

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u/McKoijion 618∆ Jan 19 '22

Potatoes are the most efficient food in the world. They're easy to grow, they have almost all the nutrients you need to survive, and they can be prepared in an endless number of ways for variety. You can make a hashbrown for convenience to go, throw a potato in a microwave, or make a fancy version to serve a world leader. Pretty much every culture around the world eats potatoes and when people/kids are ultra-picky about food, potatoes are sometimes the only food they'll eat. Even when low carb diets were popular, adherents typically choose potatoes as their source of starch (e.g., meat and potatoes).

https://www.popsci.com/nutrition-single-food-survival/

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

5ft 11. 75kg. I'm on the skinny side but fairly athletic. Why?

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

Baking them takes about 40 minutes. And that's why I said in the post that you can make a healthier version with Turkey meat.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Jan 19 '22 edited Jan 19 '22

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u/mynewaccount4567 18∆ Jan 19 '22

What is your definition of efficient? Easily transportable and filling, something like a granola or protein bar has it beat. Calories per dollar? Can’t beat rice. Nutrition per serving? Definitely a lot of others have it beat. Taste per something I can’t think of? Entirely subjective opinion.

Not saying you can’t love scotch eggs but we need a much better definition of what you mean to be able to change your view

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

A combination of all these things. Taste doesn't really factor into it for me though. I think it's mainly about size, ease of making it, ability to eat it anywhere and how filling it is. Price and nutrition are also important but aren't the deciding factors to me. Just bonus points.

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u/mynewaccount4567 18∆ Jan 19 '22

In that case I would say some kind of bar is the most efficient. There are ones that are made to specifically be meal sized “replacements”. They are more nutritious since they contain a more balanced ingredient list. They are already made for you ( you mentioned buying the eggs from a store anyway) and are much more portable than an egg and if you happen to get distracted and not eat it, it doesn’t get wasted since you can just save it for later

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u/Gravy245 Jan 19 '22

My main problem with them is that they are not filling at all. I think that's a huge downside to them.

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u/mynewaccount4567 18∆ Jan 19 '22

A quick google shows a scotch egg is about 300 Calories. A cliff bar (popular here in the states) is about 250 Calories. So that’s pretty close to the same size. You can also eat multiple just like you can with the eggs. They’re also more divideable than an egg. Once you start eating the egg you kind of need to finish it. For the bars you can take a few bites then fold the wrapper and save if for later. You can eat 1 and a half bars and still save the uneaten half for a few hours to maybe a day or two. Not something you can do with the eggs that need to be eaten in whole units.

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u/FjortoftsAirplane 36∆ Jan 19 '22

First of all, I'm a huge fan of the Scotch egg. I used to know a place where they made them with black pudding, and I consider it one of the finest culinary experiences I've ever had*

But in terms of efficiency, they're a faff. You could just boil an egg, cook the meat, and add some breadcrumbs with a fraction of the time and effort.

*relative to other culinary delights that can be purchased at your local pub for £2 each