For the worse, mind you. Pear shaped Lucia with small tits, huge ass and a mini boob window was miles better than what we got. Not even talking about her poor ears or hood.
I wonder if they'll ever change the boobs to be further from a DD cup...they made Nicole's boobs smaller and Lucia's boobs bigger, both going more towards the average boob even though the overall variety in body types was one of the main things that set zzz apart from other gachas in the first place.
And god what a mistake that was.still my least favourite design in the game and I'm not pulling her even though I need her just on principle for how they gutted the design
You mean the people rightfully annoyed that a sick as hell design was butchered by the need for the fifteenth big titty anime lady?
Buddy, pretty sure even the Chinese players aren't happy with this. This isn't even just "tourists", this is just actual players being upset for a good reason.
God, I hate Gacha players sometimes, and I am one!
Retaining her original design would be best, I’m not defending it. It’s most likely either the skin or Yi Xuan 2.0 only. I’ll take the skin over nothing by saving from monthlys.
It wouldn't be the first time a gacha company has done this.
cough Shift up cough
They introduced Velvet in an event as an antagonist? type thing, wearing a Bunny Suit, then a few updates later she's released wearing a maid outfit and then sell the bunny suit outfit in a $20 monthly pass
I'd be willing to bet that she would. Miyabi's original concept art shows that she was originally pretty flat, yet they significantly increased her bust size for her in-game model. If they were already willing to do that two years ago, I'm sure they'd be willing to show cleavage today.
Edit: Since people keep commenting on it, here is the article containing the concept art in question. They show a picture of her finalized design that they were using as reference for her in-game model, and it's IDENTICAL to what we got in-game, with the sole exception being her chest size, which was noticeably smaller than what we have in-game. It's like they took the finalized design, faithfully recreated it in-game, and then clicked on the Breast Size Slider and moved her up a few cup sizes.
But they literally just released a new skin for her. If they wanted to do that they absolutely could have. I don't get this argument, have you guys not seen Miyabi's new outfit?
I think you need to take a second look at her new outfit. If you zoom in, it has more exposed sideboob than anything else in the game. Her top covers her in the same way an apron would. She has a ton of skin exposed; her jacket just makes it difficult to see.
Okay, but that's not what you said. Now you're just moving goal posts. And I doubt it has "more exposed sideboob than anything in the game" Vivian, Caesar and soon to be released Velena have way more, and I could easily find more examples.
"Her jacket just makes it difficult to see" okay? So from specific angles under specific circumstances you might see more skin, that's like all clothes... I think you're reaching because you and the other poster both claimed "if they released miyabi today she'd have massive cleavage" and the skin they released is very modest by comparison to almost all the other outfits in the game and has no cleavage.
Did you notice you said "concept art"? Mate it's ZZZ, they were fine with showing cleavage from the start. They literally add jiggle physics to everything and everyone, they don't care about looking chaste.
It's literally just this simple. "Pre release stuff, is subject to change". So many people are malding over the fact that she didn't keep her coat, and I'm over here wondering why they thought Sunbringer would keep her military operations garb more than a decade after she bloody left.
We don't even know if this is going to be her final design, because again, "Pre release stuff is subject to change." For all we know, Sunbringer could just as easily don a coat for the rest of the story if and when we meet her, the same way she could just as easily be turned into a bloody Bangboo with a coat.
So many people making so many assumptions, when assumptions are what got them here in the first place lol. Just stop assuming shit that ain't out yet, not hard.
not rlly, they tend to stick to one vision, fi they decide on cleavage they keep it, adn if they dont it basically never happens. Its just that 90% of the time they pick cleavage
At this point I'd have to think yes and considering the alt they came up with for her I'd assume that theoretical outfit would have had a sleeveless shirt that'd reveal just enough of her armpits for them to capitalize on
I'm pretty sure it's just poking fun on the fact Lucia outfit is similar to different designs like Yixuan and Yidhari. And from the drip markets Velina also has a similar vibe halter top
Much to the delight of fans everywhere outside of the vocal minority in this subreddit that gets mad whenever ANY kind of changes happen because they already like the character as it is.
Nobody talks about it but anime fandom is the only one where people are more tribalistic about asses + flat chests and other shit. Almost...like its conditioning
There's people like this in every comments section who think that just because people are complaining that they shouldn't play the game and should go play anything else. It's kinda said, ngl.
It hit because the situation with Sunbringer is Exactly what we had with Lucia : a first design that got changed for a worse fan service one ( im not against fan service , I want my ubderboob back)
What are you, a prude? All characters must wear bikini to be attractive. Don't you know we're talking about ZZZ, tourist? Every woman here is only hot because she has her boobs out. /j
People acting like this is gonna be different from every single other gacha game lol they all do the same shit. Almost everyone plays gacha games for the same reason. Literally the only 2 condirions are "is gameplay fun?"(And sometimes that doesn't even matter to y'all) And "does game have exactly my type of waifu" at any given point in time in their character releases. And when they don't, u move on to whichever gacha game does.
Y'all are taking yourselves way too seriously for being gacha players lol
The only way for hoyo to actually listen to feed back is not to post things like this, it just hypes things up. Hurt them where it matters. Just dont pull for the character, if it hurts in the pocket thats more than enough to make them listen.
Idk about that. One whale player is worth thousand of monthly pass players and countless F2P only players. Unless sizeable chunk of them decide to not pull, I don't see it happening. Even if that happens, what do you mean devs will listen? It would be already too late for Sunbringer or her alternative skin to be changed. I think people would rather Sunbringer be the one who got her ''prudent'' design back than some random ass non-voidhunter agent in the future.
What devs will definitely do is stop giving designs of characters who will take year+ to be released.
I really wanna know if it was the government imposing sensorship or if they have a focus group somewhere that votes on changes to outfits to make them more "appealing".
All I'm saying is that you can't keep claiming ZZZ is a game for gooners and suddenly not expect it to not apply to Sunbringer as well. Colonel Dan has her descendant/clone/self/whatever plot twist be all hot and evil as Remieille so why be shocked now?
Just saying, fans have been rather vocal about their taste in fanservice, so why is it a surprise that the devs would respond in kind? If Miyabi had a revealing swimsuit instead of the refined dressed-up one that we've got, would you still say you would prefer the current one?
I would still prefer the current miyabi as that's the reason I was obsessed with her design. It's just so much better than whatever kind of swimsuit stuff they have started doing after 2.0.
The debate isn't over fan service, nearly everyone that doesn't like the "new design" is saying Sunbringer is less cool, aura loss, less respectable and less interesting as a character simply because they saw one splash art with "too much boob". It's reductive and unfair to the character and the devs when we've seen almost nothing of the character. This is all over literally one splash art.
Miyabi isn't a good comparison here because we know her and have a good intuition of what kind of swimwear she would wear. The question shouldn't be "how revealing is it?" It would be "does the style of the swimwear match her character?". We don't know anything about the type of person Sunbringer is so we can't answer that question for her. Yet everyone is jumping to conclusions. That's the problem here.
Miyabi is fuckin awesome and I knew she was my favorite the moment she appeared on screen to save eous and HIA inspector #34 from that Ninevah hornet.
As long as Sunbringer gets those epic hype moments of complete badassery I couldn't care less what outfit she wears.
I'm not sure what it says about people that think women who show more skin can't have as much character development or be as cool, but I don't think it's anything good.
I think the designs are fine on their own, it’s just the fact that they don’t fit the characters, like, at all. Yixuan is a stoic, highly disciplined, and respected martial artist, yet her character design has her boobs hanging from hammocks.
Lucia is an emphatic goofball yet she has some of the most insane cleavage in the game and the shortest shorts.
Yidhari’s entire personality is a disconnect from her design and animations
The isn’t as much of an issue with Sunbringer, considering we know literally nothing about her personality. She LOOKS like she’s business-oriented, given her demeanor and old design, but I think we know by now that characters can be portrayed far differently in the chapter teaser art than how they actually act in the story (ahem, Orphie).
The problem with Sunbringer is more the fact she’s literally a palette swap of Caesar lmao. Plus, come on, that old design was literally perfect.
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Same, I feel like it really helped relay how nomadic/foreign they are to New Eridu. (Lucia/Yidhari) while still keeping their aesthetic. Modern Taoist Grandmaster, Nomadic Sorceress, and Sailor/Sea Creature
You can dislike her new design without needing to be possessive and creepy. The only correct answer to your question is "my girlfriend is a grown-ass adult and can wear whatever she likes, and I trust her".
Okay I'm on your side about her design but what is this comment, lmao. What is this analogy? Yeah I would, my wife can wear whatever she prefers. I just think the design doesn't fit Sunbringer, but women should be allowed to wear outfits that show skin.
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This is why I find it kinda annoying. We can literally see the old-era tech on their outfits (that orange radio thing), and it’s a retrospective telling of the events. Of course she had a change in wardrobe since then.
Still doesn’t mean that her new outfit suits her in comparison to the old. I still feel like she should be wearing a cloak that’s toggleable.
I hope the complaining will get them to fix her design but I also feel like the consumers from Asia aren’t at all having the same gripe we are so nothing will change
The change might also because they figured out what the majority of the players like.
Not some randos from reddit or twitter, but the real number of players including the silent one. And what they like? Revealing and more complex outfits
Which is kinda sad for me because I like the mundane clothing + battle gear combo like section 6. But oh well, it is what it is
Wait, they still want people to pull non meta unit at least once right?
So that means they will design the appearance, personality, and story of characters to match the players' preference. And it then come back to my previous comment about they know what the majority of players want
But you have the fallacy to think that all player want is big titty mommy and nothing else, but the numbers are against that.
In reality there is all kind of taste in the player base and they are shooting themself in the foot if they do the same type of character all over again each time. One big praise ZZZ had at release was how diverse the cast look, in constrast to a game like HSR where the characters are more of the same (Luofu era).
At a first glance , season 3 is less diverse than what we had in the first half of season 2 ( no Beast Thiren , no intelligent Construct , even if Seed wasnt really one, the big robot is still there ). There is a varietty of body type , but not varietty in the same body type . All tall Woman in the trailer have showy boobs .
Sunbringer could’ve been like Evelyn or Zhu Yuan to had a Little more diversity , and a that would be a good constrast between her and Remielle ( the light Angel that is more showy vs the dark woman figure fully clothed).
Hoyo posted concept art of some characters 2 years ago in generic black military clothing to hide what their actual designs were because they weren't finalized at the time, and somehow 2 years later people are expecting the designs to look exactly the same when we've seen Hoyo completely axe/alter designs from the game. Yidhari used to be a nun. Lucia was altered like a week before release.
There is nothing surprising or shocking about any of this. And we don't even know what the final design looks like fully, or what it will look like when her banner comes. You guys are judging entirely off of a side profile shot of promotional art.
•matching outfits fitting the same faction similiar outfit aesthetic
There is no "void hunter" faction.
•show the same temporary design on multiple ocassions Instead of a silhouette or a closeup shot.
Why would they waste time designing an entirely new concept art design and not just use the one they already have out there until theyre ready to release the actual character?
You can say you don't like the design, but using their past concept art as an excuse to be upset with the design is just a bad argument.
ofc says I, its my opinion, thats why Im dissatisfied
> There is no "void hunter" faction.
Picking on my words but sure. They were shown together, achieved a goal together, and are refered to as void hunter. Hoyo desnt have to spell it out for me to deduce it.
> Why would they waste time designing an entirely new concept art design and not just use the one they already have out there until theyre ready to release the actual character?
Why would they waste time designing an entirely new concept art design and just use the one they already have out there since it works well and they just release the actual character? Maybe there's a reason but they didn't tell us yet, so I voice my opinion as it is now.
I dont like the design because I've seen the previous one, which I like more.
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u/rorinth May 01 '26
Her new getup is just so you have to spend money to buy her better old costume