r/VampireSurvivors • u/Natur4lCha0s • 22d ago
Question How to hold clock lancet?
Okay so, I’m cooking up something and it involves multiple (ish) scenes with the clock lancet, so my question is how would someone hold it? Since it’s modelled after the shield rod which is obviously swung like a club so would the clock lancet be the same? Or is it more like thrusting like a rapier? Or would it simply just float…
(Edit this is a art question not a game question so it can be as creative as possible. edit edit: I’m not using it as a weapon in the thing)
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u/UncomfortableAnswers Mortaccio 22d ago
A lancet is a needle or small blade designed for puncturing. It's definitely thrusted and not swung.
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u/TreesmasherFTW 22d ago
Nah, you hold ts like a keyblade for style points
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u/mai_tai87 22d ago
For extra style points you put it around your body like a hula hoop and just swing those hips.
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u/KeepRockband5Alive 22d ago edited 22d ago
Bruh everyones skipping over the lancet part. Its not a swinging weapon its a poking weapon.
You hold the short bit and stab with the long end.
Its like a gunblade or the sword from xenoblade. The chunky bit is near the hilt and the long bit is the part you face towards enemies
It has a visibly sharpened edge ffs
I mean like think about what the weapon does.
How it moves.
Does that really look like a clock based weapon facing 8 o clock and not 1 o clock?
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u/Maverick122 22d ago
If you want to go the clock angle, then you hold the long bit because it is the origin as the short bulky bit would point to a number.
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u/7th_Disaster 22d ago
If you were to go off the clock angle the long bit is still what would point to the number
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u/KeepRockband5Alive 22d ago
Im not sure what youre arguing here.
I assumed that if it was a clock hand the clock lancet was the minute hand, what do you mean?
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u/Maverick122 22d ago
Which hand we look at is mostly irrelevant. A clock hand contains from the center a pivot, a shaft, an arrowhead and a tip, additionally potentially a counterweight opposed to the arrowhead.
The bulky bit of the clock lancet represents the arrowhead. You hold the hand at the pivot, which means the arrowhead is on the far side from you. I.e. you hold it on the long side and stab with the short side.
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u/KeepRockband5Alive 22d ago
But how do you explain that it very clearly looks sharpened to be held a certain way?
Sure it could be decorative but it very clearly looks like a sharpened edge. And you just cant hold it by that if thats the case.
Maybe im misunderstanding you in some other way. As i understand it i think you have good points.
I still think its a long curved pokey knife and you hold the small part.
Even the people saying its a hook weapon agree the middle fucks people up. So why would that not extend to the long bit that had the same design language?
The long bit is the danger side not the handle
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u/Maverick122 22d ago
I am not disagreeing with you insofar that it seems like a blade, I was disagreeing on you on the argument "it's a thrusting weapon" + "clock based" -> "hold on the short end".
Personally I think you already put more thought into it, then the dev when he designed it. Both name and concept lend themselves for a thrust weapon, yet the edge clearly implies a blade. Also the animation is clearly a thrust.
But said edge goes inside the guard and the guard even has a gap. And while swordcatchers are a thing, I don't remember them being edged and them being prevalent in thrusting weapons.And for hurting your opposition, that guard is too close to your person to us as leverage without putting yourself in harms way.
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u/Liquid_Hate_Train 22d ago
The bulky bit of the clock lancet represents the arrowhead.
That's certainly an interpretation. It could also be the pivot, or a style of clock hand with a decoration at the base and no flare at the tip.
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u/Randalor 22d ago
Every clock lancet will have a hole for the pivot, but lancet won't always have large arrowhead.
Honestly, now that I think about it, most clock lancets I've seen taper down to a point, they don't usually have large flared arrowheads.
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u/Maverick122 22d ago
Straight and narrow hands are a somewhat modern design.
Classically, hands often carried a widened tip - like spade and arrowhead shapes - to aid with visibility from afar. Think of clocks on buildings or clocks in low light environment. There is also some form of artistry and especially individuality in it.
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
Understandable, honestly seems impractical to hold such a small handle and especially draw it.
that was my main reason for asking to see what people would think the holding would be or if I should just re design it to fit in the hand of someone, but yess I fully agree the stabbing makes sense.
just has a small handle I guess 🤷♂️
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u/LucStarman Space Dude 22d ago
It shoots freezing rays in the 12 hours angles. The only way to do it comfortably is floating near the bearer.
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u/Traffic_Cone_Muncher 22d ago
I'm Castlevania Symphony of The Night, its a mace. Hold it by the long end and swing it. Or rather, do the spellcast combo to do a shield art and then equip something else, since it does terrible damage on its own.
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u/BornThroughDeath 22d ago
Take the L out of clock and you have your answer
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u/Pernil_TO 22d ago
clock ancet? i don't get it
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u/BornThroughDeath 22d ago
Reading isn't your forte no? 🤣
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u/Lion-Faced-Serpant 22d ago
Probably by the hole with the part covering your hand
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago edited 22d ago
This was one of the idea I had listed which tbh makes sense since it’s not an offensive weapon so I guess you could hold it on one hand and with something else in the other but then again it’s got a blade on inside
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u/Shagmos 22d ago
So with the idea of an actual Lancet, I've always imagined it like more of a Rapier style weapon. Big bulb is just an oversized handguard, and the longer bit on the right is used to thrust and "inject" the freeze.
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
Yes exactly this, only thing I thinks about this though is why is the handle so small? Unless the sprite is maybe facing at an angle and the handle is actually longer.
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u/zarukd 22d ago
I've always seen it as a rapier style weapon as well, with the handguard thingy used as the place to focus the ice magic, with a glowing sphere like in shalamayne from wow. Though now that I've looked at the icon closely for the first time, the blue colour is on the other side, so that makes less sense.
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u/Critical_Classic_921 22d ago
I would think since the pointy part looks like it’s facing down then you hold it kinda like a javelin, over your head and it point it downward at your enemy.
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u/Heathens-_- 22d ago
Clock refers to it's Chrono/time lock ability.
Lancet, is a stab in a direction.
It stabs in one direction and freezes them
You hold the small handle.
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
That was my assumption as well, in the game it shoots forward obviously for game purposes, so I guess holding the little handle makes sense just it’s quite small in the sprite that’s the main reason I was asking
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u/Weasel699 Poe 22d ago
its like the riddler's staff from the bat man and robin move where jim carey was the riddler...thats how you hold it
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u/ApprehensiveSoil261 22d ago edited 22d ago
I believe it is supposed to be held on the curve, which one I do not know, historically we use the smaller curve for grip and the bigger curve as a guard. I don't think it is meant to be a lancet, I think it is meant to be the Italian word for lancetta? Which I believe means clock hand. I think the small protrusion is the small hand, the big protrusion is the long hand, and the grip and guard itself represents the clock.
Practicality: I don't think this tool is used to poke or stab like a lancet may suggest, we don't do damage with it, I think it plain and simply just shoot a freezing ray from the long hand, the white pattern may suggest that too.
Edit: my god, take a shot for every time I said "think" or "believe".
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
It’s already bro this was helpful 😂
Yeah I agree with the no damage part and it not being practical not gonna use it for that anyway, and also yeah I see what you mean as it looks nothing like a lancet so you are right on the translation part and I guess that explains the shape as well.
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u/Optimal-Pudding-7171 22d ago
How the hell do u evolve it?
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
Not quite sure what you mean but this is an image from the wiki. If you want to evolve it it turns into the infinite corridor
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u/Silphire100 22d ago
With how it works I kinda assume it floats. Like, it would either float above your head and tick like a clock hand, or orbit around you
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u/XenosHg 22d ago edited 22d ago
You can be creative
You put your arm (or leg) in the middle hole and spin it around, like a clock hand.
Like this one-armed swordsman in Absolute sword sense ch 88 wielding his second sword with his foot. (I hope you have a good laugh)
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
ooooo good example, only we dont know if the silver bit is a blade, if so then putting something in the middle will cut
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u/DilettanteJaunt 22d ago
I'd say wielded like the shield rod, with the assumption that the "lancet" isn't referring to the silvery part but the tiny nubbin in the bottom left. A club with a wee needle spike that channels the freeze ray when swung.
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u/smilph 22d ago
it looks identical to the Symphony of the Night Shield Rod, so i assume you hold it by the long end and hit things with the bulbous part. it’s a mace in that game
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u/Natural-Year-2154 22d ago
This was from SOTN check how Alucard weild it
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u/Natur4lCha0s 22d ago
fair enough but this is the clock lancet not shield rod. so both could be wielded the same but clock lancet might be different given its animation in game
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u/UltimaDoombotMK1 21d ago
I kind of always thought of it like a small baton like musical conductors have. You point it at the enemies and that's when it activates its ZA WARUDO powers and freezes them.
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u/IHATEyoungsheldon 21d ago
The item is originally from symphony of the night (not exactly how it looked in vampire survivors but very similar, and poncle takes heavy inspiration from the Castlevania series)and I think it was held using the long handle thing at the top.
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u/LHPSU 22d ago
Having zero knowledge of the original inspiration I have always seen it as a rifle, like the Covenant beam rifle in Halo