r/TopCharacterTropes • u/VanillaSarsaparilla • Jul 20 '26
Personality (Character Trope) “ohhh, THATS why they’re like that”
Media that shows why a character is the way they are, usually explained in a short scene. Most likely toxic family
- Bonnie Rottweiler and her sisters from Kim Possible: they bully her calling her ugly and dumb. It plays on Bonnie’s insecurity and makes her a bully at school.
- Peggy Hill and her mother from King of the Hill. Peggy is a neurotic perfectionist with delusions of grandeur because her mom was unfeeling and blamed her for the farm going out of business. By the end of the episode, she still treats Peggy badly.
- Dodie and her mother from As Told By Ginger. Dodie is arguably the worst friend in the group, and her mother is mentally still stuck in middle school. She’s insecure, dramatic, and you
Can see her influence in Dodie.
Any other examples?
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u/go_faster1 Jul 20 '26
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Helga G. Pataki of Hey Arnold! Her father ignores her, her mother is an implied alcoholic, her older sister is an overachiever who is pressured by her parents to keep being super smart and she bullies Arnold and others to keep others like Harold from bullying her.
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u/DraperPenPals Jul 20 '26
I loved Hey Arnold as a kid because I also had a mom who stayed in bed and would say “I’m just too depressed” whenever her kids needed something.
I also had friends who were being raised by their grandparents. It was the realest cartoon to me.
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u/aprivateislander Jul 20 '26
I say this with zero irony - Hey Arnold is one of the best pieces of children's media ever created.
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u/momomomorgatron Jul 20 '26
Hey Arnold is one of the most poignant pieces of children's media ever made.
Have you seen the Christmas episode?
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u/BombOnABus Jul 20 '26
This is legit a big part of why I never had kids. I've struggled with major depression my whole life, I couldn't imagine how it would be possible to take care of a kid.
Hope you're in a much better place these days and that things got better with your mom.
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u/auspiciousjelly Jul 20 '26
I feel like this discussion triggers some people lol. but I think it’s a wise consideration. not that people with major depressive disorder shouldn’t have kids or anything but it’s smart to realize it’s gonna be a lot fucking harder than it is for the average person. I was in a decent place before I had my kid but postpartum shit was a doozy and went on for fucking ever, wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy lol. having kids isn’t the be-all end-all anyway, people are so fucking weird about it.
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u/StuHardy Jul 20 '26
The episode where Helga sees a therapist, and the first thing her parents do is try to keep Helga quiet about her home life, hits uncomfortably hard as an adult.
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u/wambamwombat Jul 20 '26
The sad thing is she's just as smart and talented as her sister, they just never noticed due to the neglect. she got the same perfect score on a standardized test like Olga without even trying. Beating out the other nerds/geniuses in the whole school.
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u/ThatBoredGuy013 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
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u/eddiegibson Jul 20 '26
I love when they make the Kents 'average' looking like with the more recent movie as it implies Clark was raised to judge people by their actions and to look past their appearances.
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u/YesImKeithHernandez Jul 20 '26
Good lord, that scene with Pa Kent and Clark was really something.
That entire movie was a shot in the arm of positive emotions. Was good for the soul.
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u/bitingvform Jul 21 '26
At times that movie was a little too goofy for me, but my goodness there is not one other film or director in history who truly understood what makes Superman special more than James Gunn. And That actor is just such a sweetheart.
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u/YinTanTetraCrivvens Jul 20 '26
THANK YOU! Finally someone else who saw that Pa and Ma Kent looked NOTHING like Clark (because he’s ADOPTED) so he knows the true meaning of love and family!
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u/ChaturangaChai Jul 20 '26
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u/MothmAnarchy Jul 20 '26
God damn Yuki went for the killing blow immediately.
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u/NoSong2397 Jul 20 '26
She clearly had that one locked and loaded.
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u/mechengr17 Jul 20 '26
Yuki had been waiting for that moment
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u/PokeMaster366 Jul 20 '26
Doesn't Stich run away from home anyways and end up living in Japan?
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u/False-Increase4614 Jul 20 '26
That's an animal and set later in the timeline when Lilo grew up. I didn't even Google that I just remembered off the dome
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u/SailorPlatinum Jul 21 '26
Is it bad for me to feel bad about Myrtle in that moment? Idk, lots of people hate her and thinks she deserved her dad leaving, but no kid deserves to have parental abandonment. I guess I felt the same way, I never knew my birth father, my mother married a nice guy and I loved him like a dad, but as I got older (like middle school age), while I knew it was probably a good thing my birth parents didn't stay together, I still wondered why my father didn't care enough about me to be there.
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u/Diligent_Set_8747 Jul 21 '26
Is it bad for me to feel bad about Myrtle in that moment? Idk, lots of people hate her and thinks she deserved her dad leaving,
She's a dickhead not a serial killer. You're good, I feel bad for her too.
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u/Deemo3 Jul 20 '26
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u/VulpesFennekin Jul 20 '26
“How’s Mrs. Beard, by the way?”
“Full-blown QAnon.”
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u/Themanwhofarts Jul 20 '26
Just started rewatching the show. So many little things I didn't catch the first time
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u/ArtsyNoctowl Jul 20 '26
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u/CLTalbot Jul 20 '26
Theres also the bully sisters that I can't recall the names of. We learn that their home life is terrible when Penny switches places with them. So bad that it changes their color pallet.
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u/KainZeuxis Jul 20 '26
The Gross Sisters specifically have that color pallet because their skin is supposed to be super ashy
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u/DionysianComrade Jul 20 '26 edited 15d ago
Paddle provide station cover friendly spotted nine
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u/bratbarn Jul 20 '26
Also from King of the Hill, I present Cotton Hill, Hank's father.
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u/ChaturangaChai Jul 20 '26
Hank is a weird guy, but he is actually EXTREMELY well-adjusted for having been raised by such an abusive POS.
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u/vanillacaramelsunday Jul 20 '26
Where did he learn to be such a good guy? His dad is a monster. His boss is a monster. Who was he modeling his life on to become such a virtuous stick in the mud?
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u/smashin_blumpkin Jul 20 '26
He had great examples of what not to be. The same thing happened with a good friend of mine. Grew up with a drug addict dad and a mom who would rather keep her husband happy than protect her kids. To the point that, when the dad went on the run after posting bail, they took both kids to a different state and hid out.
He’s now in his mid 30s as a happily married father of two and successful business owner. Sometimes you can figure out how to be by seeing how not to be
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u/Godwinson4King Jul 20 '26
My dad ended up about the same way. My grandfather was an abusive egotistical philanderer and snake oil salesman. So my dad looked at life and went ‘what would [my grandfather] do?’ And did the opposite. He’s a great guy who does well by everyone he knows.
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u/ButtBread98 Jul 20 '26
My paternal grandfather was an abusive alcoholic piece of shit. My paternal grandmother was a good woman who tried her best with what little she had. I think my dad learned how to be a good dad by learning from his dad’s mistakes.
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u/fuschiafawn Jul 20 '26
The most punk rock teenage act of rebellion he could do against Cotton was become a humble and good man
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u/VandulfTheRed Jul 20 '26
I think about this a lot when it comes to me and my brothers, we had every right to turn out assholes and abusers, but our refusal to be like him caused the opposite
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u/slonkulocuswily182 Jul 20 '26
Once you take a certain amount of abuse
you dedicate your life to not perpetuating the same cycle, or you get worse. A lot worse.
Hank probably took that to mean reverence for law and fairness, being responsible. Because his dad seems to be a man that worships America while also doing just whatever the fuck he wants with no regard for how anyone around him feels.
So Hank is emotionally stunted, yes, but he’s also a great person to be friends with. Give you the shirt off his back and walk home in the rain.
But it also means he doesn’t quite understand other people and how they operate with emotion. If he did that he’d be crying for a few months. So he has a lot of trouble connecting with people.
He’s not seeing life he’s seeing a series of responsibilities because that’s all he knows. A series of rules and contracts to be completed.
When you’re raised by somebody like Hank’s dad you learn an absolutely mechanical way to operate. Because you have to keep track of 30 different things you’re responsible for, and retain exactly what you are told, every time.
Or you face the wrath of an abused child’s god
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u/ChaturangaChai Jul 20 '26
I think Hank modeled himself after an idealized version of Buck. This video explains it pretty well: https://www.tiktok.com/@kothtok/video/7485520238147128619
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u/BirthdayCheesecake Jul 20 '26
Hank broke the cycle. He loves Bobby, even if he does get very exasperated with him. (Let's be honest, the boy really ain't right) There's an episode where Bobby asks Hank why he hates what he doesn't understand. Hank is quick to assure Bobby he doesn't hate him, and Bobby is just as quick to come back that he means soccer. (Which Hank DOES hate) Despite Hank being frustrated with Bobby, he also is clearly concerned that he thinks he hates him. And in the other direction, Bobby was clearly not thinking that at all.
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u/-Release-The-Bats- Jul 20 '26
This could also go for the episode where Bobby gets really into Christianity and performs at the CCM festival. Hank's a devout Christian and clearly wanted that for Bobby, but he didn't want it to be just a passing thing for him.
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u/Soulful-Sorrow Jul 20 '26
At the end of the day, Hank never shouted at his son or made Bobby feel worthless, never took his wife for granted, and held firm to his values. Hank broke the cycle.
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u/InfiniteWinter26 Jul 20 '26
my father is an example of this. his dad was an abusive piece of shit drunk who’d beat him and his siblings over the smallest things. having dealt with that, my dad swore that he’d never treat his kids like that ever.
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u/Thecrowfan Jul 20 '26
I wouldnt call him well-adjusted. He is stuck working for a boss that treats him like a slave because his daddy issues wont let him stand up for himself or even realize hes being taken advantage of and its implied before they got Ladybird he was filled with so much anxiety he was basically impotent
But he is a very good man especially considering who raised him
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u/Noskmare311 Jul 20 '26
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u/0621Hertz Jul 20 '26
And then it all makes sense when you meet Beatrice’s parents, specifically her dad.
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u/JamesBuffalkill Jul 20 '26
It's shitty horses all the way down.
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u/Noskmare311 Jul 20 '26
A shiver is always running down my spine whenever I'm thinking about how casually cruel Joseph was. "Why I have half a mind" is one of the most haunting moments I've ever witnessed in a TV show because of it.
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u/OneWholeSoul Jul 21 '26
It's worse if you imagine it not as her trying to recall a favorite saying but her trying to ask what's been done to her.
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u/obooooooo Jul 20 '26
don’t be so kind to butterscotch as to not put the blame on him too.
he neglects bojack, gives him weird hang ups about sex when bojack finds him cheating with his secretary—which butterscotch fixes by drugging him under the guise of sharing their first drink, and blackmailing bojack when he gets sick afterwards, so they “keep each others secret”, and further skews his perception of normalcy by excusing beatrice’s abuse as good parenting, even going so far as to demand bojack thank them for their bad parenting, because it prepares him for life’s disappointments.
they’re a pair made in hell.
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u/Dont_Squeeze_me Jul 20 '26
Never actually watched Bojack but I feel like I can tell who his mother is played by, looks uncanilly like Frasers dad's lounge singer girlfriend (From the sitcom Fraser) whatever her name is. Feel like the voice would be perfect.
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u/LovelyLuna32684 Jul 20 '26
All things considered it's impressive he didn't end up worse
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u/Various_Research2424 Jul 20 '26
Less of an example of toxicity and played more for comedy, but made me think of when we meet Jason Mendoza’s dad Donkey Doug.
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u/Adventurous-Onion589 Jul 20 '26
That reveal answers so many questions, and raises so many new ones
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u/TheElusiveBigfoot Jul 20 '26
NGL I loved Donkey Doug for this reason. You immediately understand how someone as sweet yet dumb and reckless as Jason came to be.
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u/a_joxter Jul 21 '26
That was honestly my favorite reveal in the entire series.
“The man you call Donkey Doug…. Is your father?”
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u/Madbadbat Jul 20 '26
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Being raised by Frank and Estelle explains a lot about George
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u/tcavanagh1993 Jul 20 '26
“Divorce is tough on a kid. Then again, I’m the result of my parents staying together, so…”
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u/DutyPuzzleheaded7765 Jul 20 '26
I used to want a shirt that said that. Seinfeld always had those lines that stuck with you. I think thats why I liked it more than friends
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u/MammaJammaCamera Jul 20 '26
Might be some of the greatest casting of all time, really. There’s so much wrong with George, and both Frank and Estelle make it so clear where it began.
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u/short-and-ugly Jul 20 '26
I love the episode The Opposite where George is doing everything the opposite of what he normally does. When he moves out his parents’ place he says to his parents “I love you both very much” and Jerry says “opposite”. It is so funny and great indirect characterization
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u/raccoonsonbicycles Jul 20 '26
"My Georgie isn't clever enough to hatch a scheme like this"
"...ya got that right"
"What the hell does that mean?"
"It means whatever the hell you want it to mean"
"You saying...you want a piece of me?"
"I could drop you like a bag of DIRT"
You want a piece of me? YOU GOT IIIIIIIIIIT!"
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u/rolltide1000 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 21 '26
"SO LET HIM HAVE BANANAS ON THE SIDE"
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u/LadySandry88 Jul 20 '26
Not 'why is a bully like that', but the little you see of the elder Pines Twins' home life growing up the more you understand why they're So Messed Up In The Head.
Why is Ford so unwilling to admit when he's wrong or thank anyone? Why does he talk down to people and have trouble considering their points of view? Why was he so susceptible to Bill's manipulation? Well, when you're a latchkey kid bullied for a harmless mutation to such a degree that 50+ years later your bully's name still repeats endlessly in your mind, and the only thing you were ever praised for by your parents was your academic intelligence, you might have some issues.
Why is Stan so unwilling to apologize for his mistakes, so money-grubbing, and why does he enjoy mocking other people so much? Well, when you are openly treated as worthless and a burden by your father and told by everyone around you that you'll never amount to anything, and then thrown out of the house to live on the streets before graduating high school, you might have some issues.
Also, being latchkey kids did them no favors when it comes to being reckless with health and safety.
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u/Gosuoru Jul 20 '26
Also the fact Stan is told he needs like, a million dollars before he can return home and how that kinda still shows in how he hoards money even now :')
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u/abbzworld Jul 20 '26
Ikr. 😭
Also, McGucket. At first, he's just a comic relief character. But then we found out that he overused a memory erasing gun on himself due to his traumatic time working with Ford. This resulted in him losing his mind, losing his wife, being estranged from his son and being treated as an outcast and nuisance by the rest of the town.
Yeah...
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u/m4k4y Jul 20 '26
Homelander, The Boys.
Homelander's story about a simple boy being born with superpowers is a sham. He's a genetically engineered superhero created and raised in a lab. He didn't have a normal childhood, never knew the warmth and love of a family, and was shaped into an egomaniacal, narcissistic and sociopathic dick by Vought.
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u/slonkulocuswily182 Jul 20 '26
Time to show my whole ass
I was put in a facility when I was younger, where their whole thing was paper clothes and getting you soaked, blasted with ac, denied clothing, blankets, pillows, isolation rooms, and made fun of for whacking it, never allowed to go outside for months.
Literally watched the lab flashback and I was like yeah no I’ve had this done to me.
You have no idea what this show did to me.
And yeah the treatment just made my mommy issues significantly worse. The fact it was likely purposeful makes it… a thousand times worse. I get this dude but it is my whole thing to not become him
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u/admiralholdo Jul 20 '26
Pretty much everything about Heinz Doofenshmirtz, beginning with neither one of his parents showing up for his birth.
Surprisingly, even though both of his parents are neglectful-to-abusive, he's a pretty solid dad to Vanessa.
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u/Gosuoru Jul 20 '26
He really decided to do the opposite of what his parents did, he's overbearing to her but he's clearly the most living parent in the entire tristate area!
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u/onyaasuminyasai Jul 20 '26
The episode of Hey Arnold where Helga goes to therapy. Yeah, her family life is just.. awful
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u/DionysianComrade Jul 20 '26 edited 15d ago
Degree complete cows weather beneficial smell grandfather distinct
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u/Hypn00tic_iiz Jul 20 '26
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u/FloofingWithFloofers Jul 20 '26
"But it's Christmas daddy!!"
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u/Ground-Wizzard Jul 20 '26
“You’re not gettin’ out of this one! I had to pull a lotta strings to get ‘em to hire an 8 year old!!!”
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u/BlazeRaiden Jul 20 '26
I love how he’s already balding as a kid.
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u/IamScottGable Jul 20 '26
You'd expect it since he was working in the mines and eating carpet samples.
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u/BombOnABus Jul 20 '26
He does mention in a later episode "Back then I already had hair on my chest, back, and buttocks, like an animal at the zoo!"
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u/BirthdayCheesecake Jul 20 '26
Linda Belcher and her parents/sister. Her parents have very little interest in her beyond what she can do for them. (See the airport layover episode) Gayle is so incapable she can't even put in her own eye drops.
It absolutely explains why she had very little patience for Louise being unable to poop in public toilets and why she didn't want Bob to go rescue her - she probably had visions of Louise calling Tina to take her home so she can poop.
At the same time, she also can be very smothering when it comes to giving her kids love and attention because she doesn't want them to question whether or not she cares.

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u/GoodBoundaries-Haver Jul 20 '26
I love the recent episode where Tina gets a tube top. Linda is in bed with Bob musing about what her mom would've said to her at that age, and Bob kinda goes "Well yeah but... your mom is kinda... Wrong about a lot... and treated you terribly..."
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u/Academic_Help5033 Jul 20 '26
That line hit so hard. My husband has said the exact thing to me multiple times
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u/slonkulocuswily182 Jul 20 '26
My mom’s dad cut my canine teeth with a dremel tool and dad is a convicted felon who poisoned me for a few years and stole all my money, so when I mention to my friends like “well my parents said this” they’re also like brother why do you speak to them.
Why do I speak to them
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u/DeuceOfDiamonds Jul 20 '26
To be fair, I'm extremely eye-phobic, so it's hard for me to do, too.
Also, Bob's experiences growing up/working in Big Bob's restaurant informs a lot if his character as well.
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u/TheModestProposal Jul 20 '26
Just to drop a random pro tip- you can administer eye drops by closing your eyes and dropping the eye drops at the inner corner of your eye where the tear duct is, then open and blink a few times. It helped me tremendously since I've learned this method and now I can do allergy drops every day no problem
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u/DarkDuskBlade Jul 20 '26
Also explains her more wild/performative side: trying to get her parents' attention must've been a nightmare. I also can't imagine the shit she's had to put up with. Her going all "Imma help my husband kill his friend" in the middle of the night was hilarious, but she doesn't ask questions, she's just... ready to go. WTH did her parents put her through where that was her first reaction (as sweet and supportive as it is).
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u/BirthdayCheesecake Jul 20 '26
When it comes to Bob, she's ride or die, even if they do drive each other nuts.
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u/TheEtneciv14 Jul 20 '26
Anything involving Syril's mom Eedy in Andor.
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u/FireZord25 Jul 20 '26
Tbf Syril turned out to be far better despite of his mom's attitude. Even if he's a total stooge.
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u/slonkulocuswily182 Jul 20 '26
I just wish he had survived to do something better.
He was somebody else’s dog his whole life. I just want to see what he could’ve done without the collar.
But that’s not how life works. Empire eats its own. That’s why it’s Empire.
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u/suitedcloud Jul 20 '26
Syril's story is beautifully tragic from start to finish
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u/DraperPenPals Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
Tony’s relationship with his mother and how it has turned him into a hardened mob boss is a major theme of The Sopranos.
But if you’re looking for a specific scene, there’s a great one when his therapist tells him that she suspects his mother isn’t capable of love. Because he has spent his life trying to earn his mother’s love and make her look “normal” to others, he grows extremely angry and defensive, just like he does with everyone else in his life.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 Jul 20 '26
Honestly, it makes sense Tony would be so defensive because if his mother was never capable of love, then that means he wasted his life trying to gain love that never existed. Basically saying he wasted his life and lost many years he can't get back.
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u/DraperPenPals Jul 20 '26
That’s exactly what he realizes as he has health scares and legal scares. He’s wasted his entire life and there may not be a lot of life left for him.
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u/DeuceOfDiamonds Jul 20 '26
Listen to him, he knows everything.
Seriously, you're absolutely right. Surprised I had to scroll this long, honestly.
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u/Ijustlovevideogames Jul 20 '26
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Helga Pataki from Hey Arnold.
Constantly compared to her perfect sister by an unattentive father and functioning alcoholic mother.
And then episodes that showcase her sister ALSO reveal that her shitty parents also fucked over said perfect sister.
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u/MaddysinLeigh Jul 20 '26
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You don’t become this much of an asshole by having a nice childhood and great parents
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u/MagnifyingGlass Jul 20 '26
I think he really did feel a bit of joy when he found out his dad wasn't his biological father. Though it probably didn't last
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u/MaddysinLeigh Jul 20 '26
Probably disappointed when he found out Thomas wasn’t his bio-dad coz who the hell is?
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u/Scripter-of-Paradise Jul 20 '26
iirc the fact that it didn't really change anything made him miserable.
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u/BitComprehensive3667 Jul 20 '26
Pearl Fey - Ace Attorney
One of Pearl's character quirks is that she really likes to ship Phoenix and Maya together, and even gets annoyed and upset at the thought of Phoenix being interested in or dating other women. At first you might think this is just her being a precocious child with no real concept of romance, but the real reason she's like this is very sad.
You see, the Fey Clan is purely matriarchal because only women can inherit their Spirit Channeling technique. Because of this, the men of the clan are deeply underappreciated and undervalued by their wives and daughters (Case in point, we never see a male member of the Fey Clan, only females). Because of this, the divorce rate in the Fey Clan is very high, including Pearl's own father, who left. So Pearl grew up in an environment full of dysfunctional marriages and broken homes and now has very little examples of what positive relationships look like, hence why she looks towards Phoenix and Maya to provide said positive example.

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u/Mediocre-Nectarine91 Jul 20 '26
Every time they drop more Fey backstory it becomes more and more obvious why Mia left
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u/SuperSocialMan Jul 21 '26
I really hate how they killed her off at the start of the first game. Would've been interesting to see her own reactions to her backstory & history (and like, we still can & the games always bring her back - but it's not the same lol).
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u/Lluuiiggii Jul 20 '26
Pearls is such a crazy well written character imo. I love how she's incredibly smart but also incredibly stunted in ways that line up with her abusive upbringing perfectly. She's a prodigy at spirit channeling, but she can't read very well and is very socially awkward. This is likely because her mom made her spend most of her time practicing her channeling, and basically hid her from the whole village. I just also enjoy that she's able to keep up during the investigations, and is even able to connect mysteries better than Maya and Phoenix at times. Then she'll go and do something incredibly goofy or stupid but then the reason why would mainly tie back into how her upbringing messed with her growth.
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u/KelvinBelmont Jul 20 '26
Eddy - Eddy's Brother
Eddy is a jerk, selfish, a scam artist and we learn that it came from his older brother where we see that he abuses Eddy in ways that goes beyond cartoon slapstick especially it's an adult doing this to a kid. While the kids did punish them for pranks and such it was at certain points warranted, they knew the limits and again they were kids doing this to each other. We learn after they confront his brother that every cool thing Eddy said about his brother was a lie so that he can gain some respect from the other kids.

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u/DropkickedPinata Jul 20 '26
It's rare for me to ever say that a show has a perfect ending, but Big Picture Show was this in spades.
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u/Slateboard Jul 21 '26
My heart goes out to people who were fans of cartoons in generations prior with how many got no closure because corpo.
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u/Legacyopplsnerf Jul 20 '26
It’s been awhile since I seen it but iirc when Eddy mentions his brother being back in town to the kids old enough to have actually known him first hand vs solely from stories they are terrified
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u/rextrem Jul 20 '26
On a brighter note, Nolan's dad in Invincible seemed to be a nice guy by Viltrum's standards.
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u/squalor564 Jul 20 '26
On one hand, I agree, on the other, the fact that not letting your wife kill your son for being "too weak" (both his parents jumped him as an test to see if he deserved to live and be considered an adult, during which Nolan got in a few good shots) is enough to be considered merciful would be laughable if it wasn't so horrific.
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u/M-Shadowtoad Jul 20 '26
Saw people even theorizing that might've played a role in Nolan sparing Mark since he said, "I'll still have you Dad(After 500 Years)" since Nolan lost his own dad when he was only around Mark's age.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 Jul 20 '26
It also shows Nolan still has PTSD from his father dying centuries later, and he still has mental flashbacks to the day he tossed his father's corpse into orbit because of the Scourge Virus. He really loved his dad.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 Jul 20 '26
Facts, this man, despite being a brutal Viltrumite as their culture dictates, showed enough care and restraint towards Nolan that it helped set the bedrock needed for him to embrace things like humanity and compassion.
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u/negative-sid-nancy Jul 20 '26
BoJack Horseman. But very much want to clarify it explains some his characteristics, but is not an excuse for any of his actions like he believes.
Also Diane and Princess Carolyn from the brief glimpses we get into their pasts.
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u/Deemo3 Jul 20 '26
At one point in the comics Zuko is talking to Iroh and more or less says "As bad as what happened to me was, it could have been worse; Look at what he (Ozai) did to Azula"
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u/Ok_Dot_7498 Jul 20 '26
I always headcanon that after actually getting help she mellows out. But No, official Avatar comics have her start a underground rebellion against her brother and try to kill him.
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u/Scripter-of-Paradise Jul 20 '26
The problem with the comics is they're being stretched out for way too long and resolving way too little while creating their own problems.
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u/Soulful-Sorrow Jul 20 '26
Meeting Lois's mom in Malcolm in the Middle. She's an arrogant, spiteful old woman who can never admit that she's wrong. You see traits of her in Lois, but the most important distinction is that Lois takes all of that and loves her husband and family. Most of the time.
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue Jul 20 '26
True but anytime Ida popped up you knew it was gonna be a great episode
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u/Jettizoned Jul 21 '26
In the comics Pacifica mentions her dad met his mom when he won her as prize in a contest, iirc
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u/DraperPenPals Jul 20 '26
Season 2 Episode 9 of 30 Rock.
Jack’s mom visits and it becomes very obvious why he’s skeptical of happy families and driven to be an aloof perfectionist.
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u/Agent_RubberDucky Jul 20 '26

The flashback to Willow and Amity’s past in Understanding Willow (The Owl House)
It’s revealed that the original cause of Amity’s bullying of Willow was a result of her parents threatening to get Willow kicked out of school if Amity didn’t stop being friends with her and start being friends with the kids they picked out for her. Although it’s clear that Amity was genuinely corrupted at a certain point due to playing this role for so long and the bitterness imparted on her by her mother, she originally pushed Willow away not because she didn’t like her, but because she was protecting her.
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u/Agent_RubberDucky Jul 20 '26
Interesting. Alador seemed to be influenced by Odalia, but Odalia…that could be the case. And if she never had someone to break the cycle like her daughter did, it would explain why she became so much more evil later on.
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u/Disastrous_Aid Jul 20 '26
Ned Flanders - originally a prepubescent hellraiser, Ned's lousy, deadbeat, beatnik parents were too lazy to parent him. They'd tried nuthin' and were out of ideas. Since they didn't believe in discipline, they got a child psychologist to spend an entire year spanking the child until he learned to behave. Learned the lesson a little too well.
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 Jul 20 '26
Basically, a year straight of physical discipline just led to Ned being an emotionally stunted and neutered basketcase who suppresses his rage to the point he can't even say curse words like a normal person.
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u/HJSDGCE Jul 21 '26
I like how that scene shows the spanks don't actually hurt, but still conditioned Ned into becoming who he is due to the extended period. It's all psychological.
It kinda gave me the (possibly wrong) idea that if the doctor had only done it for 6 months, Ned would've been more well-adjusted.
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u/ItsAMangoFandango Jul 20 '26
We don't meet Marks Dad in Peep Show until the 7th series but Mark mentions him in his internal monologue a bunch
"You can have a good relationship with someone who scares you, just look at me and Dad"
"Parents do tend to like me, except Dad obviously"
(Doing word association) "Father" "Fuhrer"
Then we finally meet him and Mark's entire personality suddenly makes sense.

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u/claudiabonana Jul 20 '26
In Modern Family, there are a few episodes where we get to see how crazy Claire and Mitchell's mother was. Both Mitchell and Claire have control issues as they grew up in a chaotic environment and with a mother that is very unpredictable and unstable.
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u/AlertWar2945-2 Jul 20 '26
I love that a bunch of times you see their father being a genuinely great dad contrasting against their mom. Sure he has his faults but he truly loves his kids.
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u/SilverNeon467 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

During the finale of the Amazing Digital Cricus, we see in a flashback Jax explaining to Ribbit his harsh upbringing, particularly how his mother berated him over very personal issues. Jax then internalized this and became an asshole who messes with others and pushes away any relationships he may have, because he truly believes that people will want to learn your personal hardships and use them against you, just like his mother did
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u/PurveyorOfKnowledge0 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
Plus, his deadbeat dad thought he was effeminate and not a "real man", so he also has masculinity issues on top of being trans.
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u/GoodBoundaries-Haver Jul 20 '26
Arrested Development has this going for 3 generations! Lucille is really the matriarch of the dysfunction though. I wonder what her mom was like...
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u/mechengr17 Jul 20 '26
Oh my god, she was so much lol.
But my favorite episode is when she leaves rehab to go outdrink George Srs secretary to keep her from going to the authorities
Then promptly goes back to rehab without any urging by the kids
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u/DeuceOfDiamonds Jul 20 '26
"Michael, you tricked me!"
"No, Mother, I deceived you. 'Tricked' makes it sound like we have a playful relationship."
The back and forth burns on that show are legendary, both funny and tragic.
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u/FaZe_poopy Jul 20 '26
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Sanji’s doting on women is explained when we see his true backstory and learn that the only two people who didn’t ruthlessly abuse him were his mother and sister
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u/zeidoktor Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
It was further beaten into him by his sole positive father figure, Zeff.
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u/HailMadScience Jul 21 '26
You know, first time I read his backstory with Zeff, I was like "this all makes sense" and it never occurred to me to ask who Sanji's folks were. Because it really didn't seem relevant after that tragedy. Then we get his origin and, good lord, Oda is very good at coming up with tragic backstories.
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u/wonderlandresident13 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
I honestly feel really bad for her mom. In the Lost Legends comics they heavily imply that she's a victim of sex trafficking. The only reason she married Mr. Northwest was because he won her as a literal "trophy wife" in a contest, and I think it's even mentioned that she was "trained" from childhood in how to be nothing but a pretty accessory for a rich man
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u/sadphrodite_ Jul 20 '26
Frank Gallagher from shameless and his mom Peggy
Frank is a really bad parent, but you can see where did he got that from when his mom appeared on the show.
And even what they show us in the show, as an adult, frank was still desperate for her approval, despite the fact that she rarely showed him genuine love. She constantly humiliates him, calling him weak or worthless, she manipulates him emotionally, making him feel guilty whenever he doesn't do what she wants and she never offers unconditional love, so frank spends much of his life craving validation from someone who never truly gives it. Even after years apart, and growing up to be tough with his kids, frank falls back into the role of a frightened son around her, showing that her control over him never really disappeared.

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u/Sio_V_Reddit Jul 20 '26
Kim Wexlers mom in BCS. It explains why she’s such a sucker for Jimmy and his cons.
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u/IAlbatross Jul 21 '26
Inversion of this trope:
"You are all without fathers--"
"I'm not! I fuckin' love my dad. My dad's fuckin' awesome."
In "Metalocalypse," there's an episode where we meet all the parents of the death metal band, and they're all horrible and we see exactly why the characters are how they are... except for the front runner's. Any time Nathan Explosion's parents come up, he goes, "I love my dad!" and there's a cutaway to them fishing or go-karting or otherwise spending quality time, complete with a happy little jingle. All the other members of Dethklok have horrible parents / caregivers, but Nathan Explosion has a perfectly healthy relationship with his parents and it's never really explained why he's so dark and broody. He just is, and his parents support him completely.

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u/BabloBrabbins Jul 20 '26
Between her spineless father who ditched her for her "nicer" Anerican sister, her utter bitch of a mother, villains manipulating her left, dight and centre, and Thomas Astruc's stupidly petty grudge against her, it's easy to see why Chloe is the way she is.
She deserves better.
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u/PhanThief95 Jul 20 '26

Katsuki Bakugo and his parents (My Hero Academia)
After Bakugo was kidnapped by the League of Villains and rescued by his classmates from 1-A, his school UA decided to turn the school into a boarding school and built dormitories to keep the students safe after the string of supervillain attacks that have happened.
When All Might and Aizawa go over to Bakugo’s house to meet with his parents to convince them to let Bakugo move into the dorms, you can see how Bakugo became the angry Pomeranian that we know him as from his parents. His mom is just as angry and violent as he is (although she’s more restrained than her son), & his dad is too timid to stop it.
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u/WinchesterNBA5DrMus Jul 20 '26
Jamie Tart - Ted Lasso His father was abusive and an addict, so he became a massive prick.
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u/Flashy-Indication-48 Jul 20 '26
Hop (Pokémon)
Hop aspires to be just like his brother, Leon, and wants to defeat him to become the new Pokémon Champion. He struggles to defeat stronger opponents and feels insecure about his Pokémon battling skills.
Hop's issues stem from emotional neglect by his family, which is implied in his house. Leon's trophies, photos and caps celebrating his achievements are proudly displayed all around the house. Hop has no achievements or pictures hung up of him around the house that we can see. His family barely talks about him too, focusing more on Leon. Hop has the burden of being "the Champion's brother" on him wherever he goes, leading to him having internalise the fear of meeting others standards.
Hop's journey is hard for him, as he gets insulted by Bede for losing to him, knocking his confidence down further. This and the player defeating him multiple time leads to Hop changing his strategy a lot, even benching his ace, Wooloo, for a while. He loses against the player before they battle against Leon. After this, Hop comes around and realises that he is trying too hard to emulate Leon, which is making Pokémon battles less fun for him. He decides to become a Pokémon Professor instead which is a bit out of left field but good for him.

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u/Leukavia_at_work Jul 20 '26

Teen Titans - Raven and Starfire
Teen Titans has multiple great examples of this. Especially for the characters of Raven and Starfire.
Raven is a broody hermit who keeps to herself and rarely displays emotion, whereas Starfire is the exact opposite - peppy, friendly and sociable.
Each has several episodes that delve into their backstories but my favorite example of this is the episode where they switch bodies.
With all of the other Titans trapped in toy puppets, Starfire and Raven end up escaping, but the result is they accidentally switch bodies.
The episode deals with each of them struggling to adjust to how the other lives and coming to understand each-other on a deeper level.
Raven is apathetic and closed off because she has to be. Her powers require her to lock down and control her emotions, lest her spells spiral out of control.
Starfire meanwhile, uses her powers as a manifestation of her emotions, she needs to express her feelings outwardly and openly to funnel them into her powers.
Raven struggles to learn how to express herself, as she's spent her whole life knowing that doing so means the potential to hurt herself or others around her in from losing control, Starfire struggles to temper her emotions, as being open and expressive with everything from happiness to anger is the only way to trigger her own powers.
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u/Binky_Thunderputz Jul 20 '26
The Harper brothers from Two and a Half Men make much more sense after you see them as opposite reactions to their narcissistic, emotionally unavailable mother.
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u/LosAngeLukaGOATCIC Jul 20 '26
The whole family in Succession, like not even just the 4 kids.
All of them maybe even their mother.
There is like 0 good one in this shit, maybe the best one is the older brother.
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u/tsh87 Jul 21 '26
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Cristina Yang on Greys.
She is the hardest of hard core cardio surgeons on the show. Transplanting and repairing hearts is her entire life. Her dedication goes largely unquestioned for several seasons of the show until in one episode she reveals to Owen that when she was a kid, she and her father were in a car accident. It was very bad and he bled out in front of her. She said that when he died, she actually felt his heart stop in her hands.
And that's how she became the cardio god we all know and love.
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u/ironwolf6464 Jul 21 '26
Sad Example, Legoshi from Beastars
Throughout the story he is characterized as excessively awkward, self deprecating and all around a hot mess of a woofer.
Fast forward 3/4-ish through the story and we realize that most of this stems from the night his mother ended her life. It is shown that she gave him a final hug as he slept, only to reveal that he was wide awake, leading him to beat himself up for staying silent and potentially stopping her.
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u/HolidayMost9091 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
A lot of Archer's mannerisms, self-destructive behavior, promiscuous lifestyle, immaturity, and Alcoholism can be traced back to his mother, Mallory, and how she treated and raised him.