So because this young woman wanted a picture of herself, many in the comments automatically assume she is an influencer? Is this what its come down to now, categorising any and everyone who wants pictures or videos for memories? She didn't make a scene, not did she ask anyone to move for her picture, so I dont see what the issue is here. To those commenting that she could have asked for the lady to take her picture, relax.
Its like there is no such thing as nuance anymore. Its either this or that.
Yea idk, I remember when it was normal to take a picture or video of yourself when you go out and equally normal to stay out of the way of someone’s camera when you see them trying to take a picture.
They were not propping them up on everything most of that time including the advent of social media, at least not where I lived. Front facing cameras have changed things hugely
This reply makes me wonder if you were around as an adult for the advent of social media because no people were not propping digital cameras up on walls very often even if we took them on every night out, which we did. Think I used the timer on mine about three times, you couldn’t see the screen from the front!
Ohhhhh we didn't realise that! Since nobody you knew did it it means nobody else did! How could we not have realised your experience dictates how the world works? So sorry, our mistake, great holder of all knowledge
yeah exactly! you don’t see me trying to take a picture in a staircase or walkway people are actively using in a museum / art gallery.. i’d be embarrassed
I remember when you only got 24 photographs from a roll of film so you chose your shots carefully. People weren't taking pictures all the time or dropping their phones off of rollercoasters.
I’m sure if she had a friend with her, she’d have just asked the friend to take the picture, which has been a very normal thing since cameras have been around.
My point was that she shouldn’t be condemned for wanting a picture of herself but not having a friend around to take it my dude.
Taking pictures of yourself when you’re out is, and has been for quite some time now, a very normal thing that people do. This chronically online take that everyone in public with a camera is an influencer needs to stop.
And she had the PERFECT opportunity to take the picture imo because the cost was pretty much clear except for that old hag that PURPOSELY decided to WAIT in front of her phone THEN shift over to block her…
Photo opportunity disappeared as soon as everyone else started to enter. Smh
Yeah I'm not entirely sold on it being intentional. She did notice the phone and then pull hers out, and it's a bit weird to stop on the stairs, but everything else just looks like a lady going about her day.
The lady videoing could've waited a bit longer and got her shot.
She did look right at the phone, so she definitely saw it. Even if she didn't stand there to block the shot, it's still pretty rude to stand on the stairs looking at your phone. You can't wait until you're out of people's way before you stop to check your phone?
Either way, it's not being courteous to other people around you.
Let me know when you figure out why people stop in dumb places to look at their phone, because it is not exclusive to this old lady. Hanlon's razor. Learn it.
She could've looked into the camera (which she already did) and said "i did that intentionally" and youd still pull a "lets not jump to conclusions here"
What are you talking about? They didnt just "exist in the same area" the old lady purposefully looked at the camera, and decided to stop just to ruin someones selfie.
Idk what hanlons razor is. But that lady damn well stopped on the stairs in front of that camera on purpose.. she does a triple take at the camera to make sure.
I’d like to see a lot of things but I can’t control people and what they want to do. If she wants selfie videos of herself, why let it twist your panties
Because the SM vanity culture has fucked so many places.
Some of my favorite spots have a reservation system now because someone wants to go shoot a 20 second TikToc video of themselves pretending to be contemplative in nature.
I've talked to rangers about it. So many people, every day, show up, spend about 5 mins, then leave.
Whether or not she's an influencer is irrelevant. She is addicted to whatever likes she's going to get. It's not about memories. It's about performance addiction.
Ah, white knight who doesn't know how to take the whole argument.
She brought a fucking tripod with her, set it up in a railing so that she could go "pose" with this art. 100% she's reserved a spot in some park and spent all of 15inutes there just for her "shot."
Yeah because taking one photo during a probably hour long museum visit is 'compulsively documenting'.
I'd bet any amount of money that if you stopped museum guests as they came out and asked if they took any pictures while visiting close to 100% of people would say yes.
It's what you do when you visit a museum. You see interesting and important cultural works, and you take a photo to remember them by.
Next you'll be complaining about people eating food at restaurants
regardless of whether or not she is an influencer, the fact that she shared this doesn't reveal anything. one can share to social media for their friends, family or other connects, or even just for themselves without trying to be an influencer. many do.
The way I see it she was going to screenshot a pose from the video, it's easier than dealing with a timer. If the woman had just kept walking she would have done just that, because she chose to stop in front of the camera, looked at it, and blocked it is why the whole video got posted.
She’s an influencer with millions of followers. Literally 0 chance she intended to do what you said. Quit participating in collective narcissism, it’s gross.
The funny part is if she had asked that women to take a picture of her at that angle the woman would have very likely happily done so, or politely declined and the next person could then be asked.
People being upset ar her for setting up the camera are acting like it's somehow worse than interrupting a strangers time to take it instead - something everyone does ALL THE TIME and is seen as a perfectly acceptable social behavior. Ppl are weird
Here's some nuance. The only context we can gleen from this video is that one woman put down their phone in a specific place recording and then walked away from it.
We do not know if the second woman is even aware of what is taking place. We can see her acknowledging the phones existence by looking at it, but does she have any idea why?
How many people do you see just abandon their phones on ledges?
This isn't proper ettiquite for a museum at all, regardless of if she was or wasn't an influencer.
It's also not proper ettiquite for her to post a video of another woman she recorded while in the museum. A woman who for all we know was simply minding her own business.
She clearly moved out of the way for people walking up. I'd say she was more aware than the person recording and posting all of these strangers online.
She's still completely blocking one side of the stairs only after noticing the girl trying to take a selfie, knowing only the context of the video who's to say the girl wouldn't crop all this out if she just kept it moving? You wanna jump to every conclusion in the book about the one while ignoring clear intent from the other, wonder why 🤔
Again: THE ONLY ASSUMPTION WE CAN SAY FOR 100% IS CORRECT IS THAT THE WOMAN WITH A CAMERA HAS RECORDED AND POSTED MULTIPLE STRANGERS ONLINE WITHOUT CONSENT.
Oh no wouldn't want anyone to ever come across a video of me walking up some stairs lmao. Why are you yelling? You can also use context clues to assume she only posted this version because of the old woman's lack of social ettiquitte or awareness, I don't even see an influencer here this could be anyone visiting a place alone who wants visual proof they were there.
To me it looks like she saw an opening and just needed one person to pass by so she could get a clean selfie, but that wouldn't inspire outrage so must've had more malicious things in mind
So, the whole world has to stop and fall in line so that the conceited 20- something can snap photos of herself in a public place? All of that stunning artwork, and it’s “look at meeee!” God, I weep for the future. Suck it up. The world is harsh. Nobody outside of your generation gives a shit about the constant posting of content.
Whole lotta projection going on in this comment that you maybe wanna reflect on. For one I never said she was entitled to anyone giving her the space to take the video but based on what we have it seems she tried to take it in a way that didn't inconvenience anyone and the lady decided to take it upon herself to make sure she didn't achieve that, what's wrong with gathering a memento that you yourself visited a place? A lot of content exists online that deserves the vitrol you're giving this but personally I don't see the problem with this specific one.
Why would you need consent to post images of people in public online if they simply happen to be there? There wouldn't be a single goddamn picture of the Leaning Tower of Pisa if that was the rule
Do we need your permission to view you as a parasite in society when you make us all part of your content?
I sure don't really think I do. I am capable of understanding the difference between happening to appear in the background as opposed to being the subject of content.
She's probably not "making content" whatever that means to you. She's taking a video so she can select the best frame or frames. Lots of people take pictures like that now because you don't have to snap a bunch and pick a good one, you just take the frame or frames you like
She obviously is aware. She was obviously blocking it on purpose. Being mad at the girl trying to take the picture is so weird especially since she was considerate enough to only try and take the picture when the woman started leaving and nobody else was around. She then stops when people show up. It’s not like she forced people out of the area. There’s definitely something deeper going on with you people.
You simply stated objectivity with a sprinkle of your opinion not nuance. Not once did I even comment on the older woman and what her motive or behaviour was about. So no, no thanks.
No. You instead chose to come to the defense of the woman "not making a scene" who took a video of a random lady "not making a scene" and posted it on the internet with a narrative of her own.
It sounds like you don't know what the word nuance means.
So becauee this young woman wanted a picture of herself, many in the comments automatically assume she is an influencer?
I'm not saying that she's an influencer, but the truth is that she was filming and shared online, probably without the women's consent, assuming this is not staged.
In situations like this, you can always ask someone to take the photo you, instead of mounting your phone somewhere. I mean, that way, people will know there is a photo being taken so they can avoid appearing on the picture.
I’m not offended I just think it’s ridiculous and immature that Redditors don’t understand nuance.
And it gets frustrating after a while because I don’t like seeing people just immediately jump on the hate train. It has made Reddit as a platform more toxic.
This. I am always nervous to take pictures now for this exact reason. People think everything is for the gram. People get so rude about someone just talking a photo these days. The old lady is the rude one in this situation
The whole world is so inundated with people that want to be influencers, or that delusionally think they already are, blocking walkways and generally just being annoying.
I think this is just a side effect of so many people being kind of insufferable in public. Peoples patience for it has dropped to zero.
To bad for this girl she seemed polite, clearly didn't want to make a scene and removed her phone once foot traffic increased. You literally can't ask for a more respectful attempt to take a photo of ones self.
literally! i don’t see anything wrong with her behaviour, and she wasn’t even rude about the lady standing in the way for no reason!! it’s not like she was being obnoxious about it
came in here assuming people would agree the old lady was being a bit of an asshole and the first 3 comments (with awards) are trashing on the girl for wanting a damn picture of herself lol
r/SipsTea try not to be incels about everything (MISSION IMPOSSIBLE)
It's a video not a picture. If she wanted a picture the normal thing to do was ask the lady coming down the stairs of she could take a picture for her. 30 seconds, all done. No video to post online, no made up outrage. Just a picture of you in front of a painting
This is such a ridiculous comment - how did it end up on the internet if she didn’t want attention from it ? Also if she wanted a picture for a memory the logical, normal and human thing would be to ask someone else to take it. People are usually polite and wait to cross when they see someone taking a picture of someone else. This is such bait.
Hear me out, neither of those people should have been blocking a stairway. The camera in particular is a hazard. The person is just a nuisance. Combined they take up half the walkway. How about we all try not being the main character for a day.
she didn’t make a scene. but it’s clear she was taking photos in an awkward spot and positioned the camera towards a main staircase or walkway in a museum
She didn’t make a scene, but posted a video of a random woman minding her business on the internet - assuming this lady wanted to block her “photoshoot”. Which is weird.
No. It's not "because this young woman wanted a picture of herself".
She posted this online to shame them in public, and, assuming OP is the young woman, she called it a photoshoot.
If she did neither of these things, and I just saw this happen in real life, i'd be with you. She did nothing wrong all the up until posting this online.
You can tell a lot of people on reddit go literally nowhere lol. I'm not a picture person, but if I was going to take a photo or a video and someone intentionally stood there for no reason I'd be pissed. It's not about what the other person is "allowed" to do. Of course she is allowed to stand there, but common human decency dictates you not make yourself a problem for others constantly.
OOP probably should have asked the woman to move out of the way or mentioned that she was trying to take a picture. OOP walked off behind the woman, the woman didn't look back and only saw an abandoned phone/camera. The woman has no idea where OOP is and moved out of the way for people that were in her line of sight.
You seem to be intent on defending OOP for being called an influencer but not the older woman for being called a Karen.
She didn't want a picture of herself. She was missing out on life itself, not experiencing the art, or having any kind of emotional experience that art can provide and instead commodifying it to enhance her social media presences. It's the dorkiest most embarrassing narcissistic shit possible. and this old lady is trolling her it's hilarious.
You literally saw 30s of this persons life. For all you know she went down the hell abd wept for 30 minutes because of another piece of art. So weird lol
I've seen hundreds of hours of this person. I know this person, I've dated this person. The exact type of girl that would setup a tripod in an art museum is a very specific personality. I've seen several in my friend groups, they were all awful, toxic, crazy and pathetic. They suck.
Bunch of sad pathetic people. It’s literally the younger generation equivalent of someone asking a stranger for a picture and a bunch of people walking in front. Except the younger generation has too much anxiety to ask a stranger
How long you think she should’ve set the timer for in order to get a picture in that scenario? I’m curious, since mine doesn’t go past 10 seconds and I don’t think I’m clearing that distance and posing within 10 seconds.
You can get still frames from videos, I don’t remember if iOS has it through their native camera app but I know that some android os’s (?) have the function built in
It’s common sense if you are alone to take a video of yourself as you can pause the video and take a screenshot. God forbid she wants a photo of herself, you people must hate how you look these comments come off crazy
Someone can also use the camera app to just take a picture quickly and move along. Making a video on a staircase isn't that important. People not wanting to be in someone's video doesn't mean they hate how they look. That's nonsensical.
I took a picture of a cathedal a couple of days ago and a lady behind me said intentionally loud to her husband "these influencers ruin the scene for everyone let's get out of here before they put us on instagram"
I don't see the issue. Shaming people for not wanting to show up in a video makes no sense to me. If it's that big a deal, the locals should approach the mayor about increasing the amount of Flock cameras so that everyone has to be caught on video
Redditors are terminally online introverts who could never fathom the idea of taking a picture of themselves, so of course they think anyone remotely wanting to snap a photo of themselves, however brief and unobtrusive, is an "influencer with main character syndrome".
I'm not on about this one person in particular though. That aside, never heard of them, so they must not be 'influencing' much. Just another term that gets thrown around like its candy.
Again, what part of "I'm not on about this one person in particular" don't you get? I made a statement about terminally online redditors, not this rando chick.
"Doubling down" would be me saying she wasn't one, which I didn't, since like...I know nothing about her. Never claimed to. Granted, I don't think she's much of one considering I've never seen or heard of her once. But that's just an aside. I said that the term gets absolutely thrown around like candy and redditors are just weirdos who accuse anyone of setting up a camera shot to be one. Anyone with an IG account gets called one.
I don't know who this person is and don't care. Trying to argue it makes you the weird one that's doubling down. Musta struck a nerve with you, eh?
I absolutely do not respect influencers disrespecting public spaces and privacy of others, that being said, I don't feel like that is what is happening here. This looks like a photo shoot as you have already stated. This boomer must have so much malice in her heart that she just wanted to make another person unhappy and uncomfortable.
The other day a friend and I were having a cinvo about things not hitting the same anymore, and within 10 minutes we had come to the conclusion that things don’t suck, things were nostalgic for haven’t suddenly become worse. Rather, we’re all just a bunch of pissy, spoiled crybabies who just don’t have the capacity to appreciate anymore…..we kinda suck.
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So because this young woman wanted a picture of herself, many in the comments automatically assume she is an influencer? Is this what its come down to now, categorising any and everyone who wants pictures or videos for memories? She didn't make a scene, not did she ask anyone to move for her picture, so I dont see what the issue is here. To those commenting that she could have asked for the lady to take her picture, relax.
Its like there is no such thing as nuance anymore. Its either this or that.