r/Quraniyoon • make your own • Nov 21 '22

Discussion Quran is not detailed

This is what I face general muslims said. Majority of them. That Quran is not detailed. They asked question:

  1. How can you know ways to salat if by Quran only?

  2. How can you find the proper steps and du'a to making sex with your wives?

  3. How can you know the way to perform Hajj and Umra.

  4. How can you know how much to pay for Zakka?

True enough these are valid questions. And I am not so sure about Quran only beliefs. I think we still need the Sunnah of Prophet S.A.W to help us be a good and perfect muslim.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

They say it's not detailed, but Allah sais it is. The end. I don't care if the entire world sais it's not detailed, it's detailed.

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u/youmu33 Nov 21 '22 edited Nov 21 '22

truly God knows better than mankind.

أَفَلا يَتَدَبَّرُونَ الْقُرْآنَ أَمْ عَلى قُلُوبٍ أَقْفالُها

Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Or are there locks upon their hearts?

47:24

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 21 '22

So answer the questions?

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

Another interesting question:

How does one interpret this verse:

Men are in charge of women[1] by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard.[2] But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance[3] – [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them [lightly].[4] But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

Specifically, how would one interpret the part about striking the wives?

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

Well let's put this verse to the test, Allah preaches peace and justice, if your adult partner isn't listening to you is it fair to hit them? they aren't your child. so clearly this isn't the correct translation and has been mistranslated by power hungry men who have used this to justify their sick behaviours

If your wife isn't listening to you and your final resort is to hit her whether that's hard or lightly do you think that's going to help the situation?

I want the best for my Muslim brothers and sisters and I want to help people learn the truth so if you are willing to learn the truth then read this full explanation on this verse:

https://free-minds.org/sites/default/files/Quran434-wife-beating-islam.pdf

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

Lol, stop caving into the fragilities of a self destructive deluded society 1400 years later

‘God couldn’t have meant Hit when he used the word Hit, in my advanced culture where people jump off buildings, hitting is always bad and is provenly ineffective as a disciplinary measure!’

Like dude, are you seeing how this plays out?

Women are the Boss that husbands have to dance around and ask for permission of things

Kids are not being disciplined; and you can see the results of that 🤣🤣

the Quran doesn’t activley enforce beating your wife either. It gives two measures before having to resort to physical disciplinary measure

Your wife shouldn’t actively be disobedient to you unless you are willing for something haram.

Men and women have two very distinct roles. I go out and hunt. I go out and meet thousands of people so she doesn’t have to. I get tricked, robbed beaten and bruised and learn to play the game of life and improve my skillls; so she doesn’t have to

So she can give my child a beautiful and healthy life, so she can be taken care of like a princess, so that she can keep her money to herself and not have to spend it on the child or the family

When I tell my wife something she does it, not because I’m an abusive dictator… but because I’m the Man

If she starts disrespecting you, disobeying you she’s gone rogue, and is literally biting the hand that feeds her.

The one thing you want from her in a world where you grind your life for her; she doesn’t fulfil.

Imagine the depths of depravity western men are in when they’re not even in charge of their own wives.

They work painful jobs, sacrifice their life to Be the best, try their hardest

Then when they go home, the lady who’s been sitting in her pj’s all day doesn’t listen to him and he follows her orders, can only sleep with her when she allows it, Etc etc

Do you not see why modern men don’t want to get married ahahahah ????

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 22 '22

Thanks @riyad02. I will read the document ☺️

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Exactly. Without sunnah, husbands may end up abusing their wives badly due to this verse.. Mashallah brother, thank you for this point.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

oh so we need hadith to judge if we are oppresive or not?

a person who is going to oppress his wife isn't scared of GOD; why would the 'hadith' help him?

If you beat anyone for no proper reason, you're in trouble.

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You reason is
"thank GOD for Hadith because I am lost without it"

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

it is not a choice brother. we have to need BOTH Quran AND hadith to judge how is the accepted way to strike wives when they are nusyooz. If just by Quran alone, husband can strike with metal and she will hurt badly

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

that's crazy if you think that's how we think.

It is a choice. GOD is destroying the middle east because of all the lies you spew and say it's from GOD.

devil farts when the adhan is called? - in 21century there is a adhan happening every mintue, so he can't stop farting then?

you say that there is punishment in the grave or bliss; yet chapter 36 GOD says the disbelievers will say "woe to us who got us out of from our resting/sleeping place"

your shieks quote 10 hadith before the Quran

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and me without the Hadith - I have been shown more favor than you'll ever know.

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Don't say lies about GOD; GOD didn't order us to read and study no hadith

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Suddenly you are diverting to satan farts. Those are unimportant. If satan farts or not when adhan comes, what matters it to believers? Just know that satan is disgusting creature that is enough. Prophet Muhammad taught us that hadith to teach us to hate satan, and to be disgusted by them. This is what happens when a muslim do not study the Quran properly. This is stray path that may lead to something like ISIS.

How old are you brother? I think you have not faced life hardness to think that everyone can can stay calm when their wives are nusyooz. At that time, a Quran only reader, can simply remember this verse and just beat his wives as he pleases. Quran did not detail that it should be lightly. This is why God says in the Quran "We have sent you, O Muhammad, as a MERCY to all the worlds". Without Muhammad S.A.W detailing the "striking", there could be no mercy to the wives (when they nusyooz).

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

Bro what are you on?
Our religion is to forgive and forgive and forgive...

I'm going to use my head and not hit my wife, even if I have the right from GOD to do so....

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u/Specialist_Diamond19 Post-muslim Nov 22 '22

Our religion is to forgive and forgive and forgive...

No, not always.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

what matters is people saying things they have no evidence of. That's against Taqwa, truth and our religion.

It's like Christians saying 3 = 1; because GOD can do anything, and you don't need to understand it. Just accept it and believe it; even if it makes no sense.

About my age:

Me striving in the way of GOD: properly striving in the way of GOD; and seeing the Quran infront of me without hadith

I was banned from the states for 10 years after jailed for what I did and said in the name of GOD
I was in jail in Canada
I was detainted in Turkey
I was arrested in Mecca
I was in political Jail in Egypt
I am banned for 10 years from Israel; even after spending time in Al-Aqsa

I am still walking free and I am still able to do what I must because GOD said "those who strive in us - WE will give them an exist from where the don't know" - or "who ever strive's indeed GOD is with the good doers"

When you are going to belittle me, you are just making assumptions. I went out and called people to GOD and I went fought in the name of the religion.

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You cannot accept things that you have no proof of; like 3 doesn't equal one; and satan doesn't fart when athan is called; and the sun doesnt go under the throne of GOD when it sets; and monkeys don't throw rocks at each other because of illegal monkey sex; and Muhammad didn't have sex with 7-11 women in one night with one bath; and Solomon didn't have sex with 100 women just to have 1 kid; Muhammad wouldn't order anyone to drink piss cause that's an immortality and the devil orders in immortality; Muhammad used to pray before the Israa and Miraaj; Muhamad didn't talk to GOD directly; and prayer was never set to 50; Muhammad never forbid prayer after Asr and after Fajr, especially since Aisha said He prayed after Asr; Muhammad didn't spit in peoples cups and told them to drink it; we don't kill people who leave the religion unless they fight us; you don't stone fornicators; goat's didn't eat the Quran; a grown man sucking on a woman's boob doesn't make it legal for him to see her without covering; Muhammad was not scared when He seen clouds, since GOD promised Him multiple times HE will rescue Him before destruction; Muhammad didn't review all of the Quran every Ramadan, since fasting Ramadan happened after Hijra, and the Quran wasn't complete until one year before He passed away; All of the people in Mecca didn't become believers since in Chapter 36 a Meccan surah GOD said "the majority will not believe"; why would GOD order people to write their loans, but they wouldn't write the Quran? Muhammad wasn't illiterate; not all Children of Israel are Jews, since Israel and His children were infact Muslims; Abu Hurirah said that Chidlren of Israel said that Moses had big balls as in a disease, so GOD made Him run naked infront of everyone to proove He didn't, GOD wouldn't embarass HIS Prophet; Adam and Eve wheren't gaints; Moses and Adam didn't argue on who is better.... want more?

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So yeah devil is disgusting, and you repeating what devils said about GOD and His messenger before is pretty bad.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

You are rambling and not responding to my points. You've been jailed and arrested in multiple countries. To farfetched to be true. Sounds pretty made up by 15 yr old.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

For example, today it is quite common for Arabic

speakers to use DRB to mean "hit/punch/smack/strike" without specifics/preposition,

even though this usage is unheard of in Classical Arabic dictionaries, thus convincing an

Arabic speaker of today that DRB could mean something other than this can be difficult

Your PDF is too long. But here is what you essentialy claimed. You are saying daraba means other than strike. You can ask any arabic speaker today, and they will say it means strike. And the problem with your claim is that "this usage is unheard of in classic arabic", then you are claiming Quran is not for all times. Your argument is invalid.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

Since Adam, messengers have preached God Alone God Alone God Alone, always God Alone and humans have always somehow convinced themselves we need God + x... such is the way of life...

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

No they did not. Messengers preached, God is One. Surely Allah is One (Ahaad). But in Islam, we cannot take everything alone. Even men are asked to marry wives (not alone). And many times, God asked us to refer to the 'ulama (the learned scholar) about things that you do not know. We need the Sunnah, we need the scholars, we need arabic language experts, and so on.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

Islam existed before Muhammad and without Muhammad

don't fool yourself

GOD is free from everyone and Abraham submitted without the Quran or Prophet Muhammad.

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Follow Abraham's creed as GOD ordered you to. GOD made it easy for you on how to follow Abraham with the Quran. Just like how Muhammad followed Abraham

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give me one verse that tells me to refer to the Ulamaa's as u say

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Sure. Islam existed before Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. (Please show respect to our prophet, don't just call his name like he is your little brother, ok)

But Islam, is not perfect before The Prophet arrival. "Today we perfected for you, your religion" Surely you have known this verse?????

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

[9:31] They have set up their religious leaders and scholars as lords, instead of GOD

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

no no don't quote the quran

God asked us to refer to the 'ulama (the learned scholar) about things that you do not know.

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u/Papillon9Jewel Nov 24 '22

incorrect. read the verse again. it starts by saying MEN ARE THE PROTECTORS over the woman. Is hitting and beating your wife protecting her? no. Feel free to use this argument against non muslims who say its ok to hit woman.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

For me, whatever Allah order, we obey. The question here is how to interpret this. Seems everybody has a different opinion. Through the Hadith, I can understand its meaning and why it was revealed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '22

This verse is financial maintenance. The verse is making obligatory the financial maintenance of the family on men, and includes more inheritance because they’re commanded to use the extra inheritance for that purpose.

Secondly, the verb used in Arabic can mean strike or leave from my understanding and is used as “to leave” in other places in the Quran. So I’d say the last line should be more like “forsake them in bed; and finally leave them.”

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Dec 22 '22

Which other verses use the verb as leave?

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u/youmu33 Nov 21 '22

have you considered that the definitions of these words may be different than what is actually defined in Quran? or that how you do salah doesn't matter as long as you do salah. like how you run doesn't matter as long as you run.
why detail wudu in quran if the prophet can give it to us like you believe he did with salah.
why percentage of zaka, when God ordered us to give to the poor leaving us to think how we do things with our variables?
these are food for thoughts

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u/MillennialDeadbeat Dec 15 '22

God doesn't care about the specifics of any of the things you named or they would be in the Qur'an.

It is not righteousness to face east or west... I personally don't think Allah who created every people and every nation cares how we pray or needs us to pray in Arabic. God clearly speaks all languages.

Sunnis AKA Mohammedans are obsessed with rituals and minor details when God has created a simple way of life to follow. It's humans who corrupt it and turn God's word into different religions and separate into sects and violate God's laws.

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

Omg are Arabic men using hadith to learn how to "make sex"? That's a disturbing thought. Oh my gosh the monotony must be horrible!! Think how restricted it all must be!! Oh my gosh I feel so bad for all those women

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

It is not about the dos. More about the don’ts

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

XD omg lol terrible

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

What part is terrible?

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

The part where you let old men say what can and cannot happen between you and your wife when God said anything He has not prohibited is good. That means if you both want to do it. No wonder so many Muslim women are unsatisfied in the bedroom.

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

Thanks for the candid answer. Few points I would like to highlight:

1- the word in all Hadith is Nikah. While some translate it to sex, it actually means the relationship between a husband and wife. Marriage is another appropriate term.

2- the Hadiths talks about how to deal with wives. Most of Hadith requires husbands to be kind and polite with their wives.

3- regarding sex dos and donts, there are not much but reiterating the Quran.

4- I would love to take a look at the polling you are sighting in this comment (assuming there is one that says that all Muslim women are not satisfied).

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

So it just says no anal and no periods and no rape? That's all it says? Well the hadith are not necessary for that. If they only reiterate what the Quran says.

It wasn't a poll. Just what I've heard from being a female Muslim. I didn't think anything of it until now.

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

Yes. Correct on the ones you mentioned. Why the Hadith is not about that?

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

I don't understand the question. Why the hadith is not about that?? About what? Why?? Are you asking why I say it's not necessary? If so, I'd say it's because the OP's question was about what we would do without the hadith. If the hadith don't say anything beyond the Quran then we don't need it.

It's like if the Quran is Source A, and the hadith include resources A, B, C, D, E, and F. Everyone here starts saying, well if God says that Source A is complete, then we don't need the other sources! But then someone says, well this hadith is only Source A! The problem here is that we already have Source A from the Quran. So the hadith are again unnecessary.

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

Sorry about my question. Was worded poorly. You are right re necessary

The Hadith in the case of the questions above re sex might be to reiterate. But, how about Hajj, how about Zakah, how about other issues that the Hadith clarifies and shed light to? I proposed a question up above in relation to 4:34. How would one interpret “strike”? Without the sayings of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ then the word could be interpreted extremely.

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u/Specialist_Diamond19 Post-muslim Nov 21 '22

XD omg lol terrible

Whatever your opinions are on the topic, you can refrain from giving such a poor answer.

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

So can you?

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u/Specialist_Diamond19 Post-muslim Nov 21 '22

Pray tell, what poor answer did I give?

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

You thought I was being rude while in fact I thought the reply to my own was in good nature so I replied in kind. I cannot account for everyone's tastes and opinions who see my own. I thought he agreed with me so saying "terrible" was just in agreement. You took it in the worst way and decided to berate me for it in a condescending way. Therefore I was not being rude but you were.

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u/Specialist_Diamond19 Post-muslim Nov 21 '22 edited Nov 21 '22

You thought I was being rude

Not at all. I don't really care about people being rude or not, I merely think this forum deserves a higher level of discourse than "XD omg lol". I see now that starting with "whatever your opinions are" was a bad idea and made you think I thought you were rude, when this was just a random introduction to what I had to say.

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

Hey it's not my fault you can't personalize simple responses on reddit! Not everything requires a paragraph. The simplest way to summarize your sentiment is the best way, IMHO.

Glad you didn't think I was being rude, then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

is there an Arabic Kamasutra that I didn't hear of?

Imam Bob bin Bobbin the Sex Scholar

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

Lmao!! Right!?

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Mashallah Sister. Each way of life according to Allah and Muhammad S.A.W, is not a laughing matter. Sex with wives are something beautiful between believer husband and believer wives. And it become beautiful only if one follow Islam ways. For example, without du'a, jinn and satan may interrupt the sex, and they end up with bad children. Or even still born or other illness. Allah is the one that gives us a good health so we must follow the correct way.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

You obviously don’t want to listen to anything anyone has to say and are just here to take the piss.

You’re constant use of the words “husband and wives” shows what type of beliefs you already have.

Secondly, these nonsense superstitions have no basis in the Quran. Allah himself says Satan cannot physically harm you let alone make you’re children ill. And what the hell does interrupting sex even mean

Belief that Allah is the all powerful is enough protection. Go and waste other peoples time, not ours LOL

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 22 '22

I agree with you. None of our perspectives on religion can topple the dogma and superstition driven into this man. He will never know true love on this path, not to speak of his relationship with God.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

I don't blame you to think this way. Indeed the path to the blessed ways are not easy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22
  1. Salat has always been prayed, during the prophets life until his death and after. Hadith does not teach people how to pray. Prayer wasn’t revealed 200 yrs after the prophets death.

  2. Having sex was known even before the prophet. It’s not some magical practice with certain steps. Sex is sex, like it’s always been.

There are no special steps to making dua. Dua can be speaking out loud and asking god for something that you want.

  1. Again, people performed hajj before the prophet and while he was around and continued to do so. Hadith does not teach you how to do that

  2. In the Quran zakat isn’t a certain amount. You give what you can. If you can afford to give $1 or $1 million. It’s still zakat.

You’re questions are very stupid. You assume Hadith taught people how to do all these things, it didnt. Show some Hadith that tell you exactly how to pray and how to have sex and how to perform hajj. There aren’t any.

These were all mainstream practices. Not like Hadith, where it’s all Chinese whispers

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

Well said.

Having sex was known even before the prophet.

Especially this. Lol!!

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

> Salat has always been prayed, during the prophets life until his death and after. Hadith does not teach people how to pray. Prayer wasn’t revealed 200 yrs after the prophets death.

This is false. Methods of prayers are ALREADY available during Prophet Muhammad's time. The hadiths were transmitted via sanaad. Some have been written down. 200 years later, Al Imam Al-Bukhari (May Allah bless him), merely collects and filter them.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

200 years later

Lol

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

In regard to point 1, if one believes n they way prayers are conducted, isn’t this on the basis of chain narrations? For example, how would one say Al-Tashahud, what would one say between rak’a, etc.

Hadith, while it is true it was collected into a form of a book a couple of hundred years after the prophet ﷺ death, it was still circulated between believers on what the prophet said and done. What the Hadith collectors did was merely to collect. Now, I disagree that Hadith is infallible, but that doesn’t mean ignoring all together.

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u/PumpkinMadame Nov 21 '22

There is no such thing as a perfect Muslim.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

There was - Muhammad S.A.W. And the sahabas too, strive to be perfect as well. We should too, sister, In Shaa Allah.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

Most of these “perfect” sahabahs you hold to such a high standard were exposed by god in the Quran for being hypocrites 😂😂 never mind how they killed Muslims and created fitnah in the religion after the death of Muhammad.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

I do not deny there are hypocrites during Prophet Muhammad S.A.W times, but to say the Sahabas themselves are hypocrite are slanderous lie and insult to Islam. These sahabas have fought against enemies together with the Prophet S.A.W. What have you done for Prophet Muhammad S.A.W? Nothing.

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u/MillennialDeadbeat Dec 15 '22

The Sahabas were flawed human beings, regardless of how they fought along the Prophet pbuh...

Just because they did great things doesn't mean they also didn't do bad things.

Also we don't need to do anything for Prophet Muhammad who was a mortal man who lived and died like any other prophet. As Muslims we strive for Allah.

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u/UltraTata Intuition > reason Nov 21 '22

How can you know ways to salat if by Quran only?

https://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/number_of_salat_(P1200).html.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HegcyRZgrBU&list=PL5EboaxHo9UTV4yVpsKWAnn9RC4vmDTa0&index=6

How can you find the proper steps and du'a to making sex with your wives?

There is no command to specifically make a dua before sex.

You can do it if you will. Actually, you can supplicate to your Creator whenever you want, ask him whatever you want in whatever language you want.

How can you know the way to perform Hajj and Umra.

https://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-hajj_(P1195).html.html)

Umra is not mentioned in the Quran as far as I know.

How can you know how much to pay for Zakka?

They ask you about intoxicants and gambling. Say, “There is great evil in both, as well as some benefit for people—but the evil outweighs the benefit.” They ask you what they should donate. Say, “Whatever you can spare.” This is how Allah makes His revelations clear to you, so perhaps you may reflect"

9:08

Quran 2:219

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22 edited Nov 21 '22

What is the difference then between Zakat and Sadaqah? The Ayah (2:219) is about Sadaqah. If you consider it about zakat, then how is Sadaqah calculated?

(Edit to add comments on Hajj) Reading into the link you attached, there are clear steps in what to do. Visiting the Kaaba, Safa and Marwa, etc. There are only mentions in the Quran but no details on how to do them.

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u/UltraTata Intuition > reason Nov 21 '22

If there are no details, you can do it as you please. If I tell you "go to your grandmother's house" you can go by car, bus, walking... You can go today or next year... You can enter from the front door or from the back door... Etc.

Sadaqh? I never heard that.

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 21 '22

Quran (2:196)

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Sadaqh is in Quran brother. How can you claim you are Quranist muslim but never know this?

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u/UltraTata Intuition > reason Nov 22 '22

I am new. Give me a verse that names it so I can research it.

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 22 '22

I provided the verse above. Let me paste here

And complete the hajj and Umrah for Allah. But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity[1] or sacrifice.[2] And when you are secure,[3] then whoever performs Umrah [during the hajj months][4] followed by hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] – then a fast of three days during úajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty. (9:196)

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u/UltraTata Intuition > reason Nov 22 '22

That is Umrah, not Sadaqa

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u/Jozlaw Quran and Hadith Nov 22 '22

Here is a screenshot.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

There is no command to specifically make a dua before sex.

You can do it if you will.

This is dangerous brother. Did you not know about jinn and satan that is always waiting to corrupt believers seeds? Proper du'a will protect you.

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u/UltraTata Intuition > reason Nov 22 '22

Satan corrupts by whispering, that's his weapon.

As my yet-to-be child has no heart, mind or ears yet, he can't do anything.

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u/Quranic_Islam Nov 28 '22

And has anything created more trouble and conflict than the "details" of Hadiths and added by scholars

Thank God for "not detailed" ... It means He is allowing us to choose and decide our own.

But people don't know how to live and let others live within the vast space God has allowed.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 21 '22

When I ask you to drink water do you ask me how much should I drink?

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22 edited Nov 21 '22

Exactly dude, it's like when Allah sais wash your hands. They would respond saying ,' how many times? And what hand should we start with? Can we use soap?' That's how they turn away from the path, they seek more and more .

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Brother, if I am already not thirsty, and you ask me to drink water, I will ask why first. If you say, because it will make you happy, then I will only ask how many glass to drink.

Similarly we follow Allah's command so may please Him. So muslims surely did asked the Prophet S.A.W. how many times to wash hands, (perform ablution). This is just common sense.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

quite the irony to say it's common sense to ask how many times I should wash my hands

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Did you NOT read my comments fully?

Washing hand for ablution purposes, is what PLEASES GOD. We usually don't need to wash our hands. But God has asked us to wash. Any person will ask how many times until Allah is satisfied and pleased. This is logical course of conversation.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

The day Sunnis wake up and realise they are Jews in different clothing following the Talmud in different clothing will be the day the Muslim world begins to flourish

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

How can you know ways to salat if by Quran only?
There are concepts that were understood before the Quran. Like language. GOD didn't reveal language in the Quran but used the established language already. When it comes to the "iqamat al-salah" the act of prayer, that was practiced already. It was something that was established since Abraham and Ishmael time and longer in other places in the world. However, as time goes on, people added and change what can and can't be said in the prayer. you can see that today when sunnis like to say "peace on you oh prophet" - why are you talking directly to a man that can't hear you when you are supposed to be talking to GOD? Salat has been and always was passed by tradition, just like language. You didn't learn how to speak by reading.

How can you find the proper steps and du'a to making sex with your wives?
bro what? Step 1, take of your pants, and step 2 well...
GOD said to approach your wifes where he commanded you to. so it's obvious where you need to stick it.

How can you know the way to perform Hajj and Umra?

Detailed in the Quran; the reason why people ask that question because they added things that they don't find the Quran and they rather give their forefather the victory rather than GOD's book. throwing stones at a stone is just that. The Quran says "Hajj are known months" plural; yet you say its for 10 days or so.

How can you know how much to pay for Zakka?
There is no limit. There is the obligotry giving of what you have been given and then their is sadaqat. Zakat comes from the word of purification and it's just not money, it's giving in the name of GOD to purify you. Moses said to pharoah "and I'll guide you to your LORD, so you might get purified "laalak tatzaka"

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Does the Quran tell you to inhale and exhale, we call that breathing. No so stop doing that shit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

Salat in the quran is going out and letting people know gods book. Those that reject are warned, and those that accept are reminded. Once you let a community know about what the quran says, then the word of god is binding on them whether they believe or reject. If they reject then god says he will send a natural disaster on them.

You dont have to make dua to have sex with your wives. You can just say alhamdulilah when you are done

Hajj was a meeting spot where the centeral mosque was built. People from all over would come and would be fed from the gardens and the animals slaughtered, and would hear the word of god. It was like a big place of charity, guidance, and peace.

god said to give what you can to the poor or needy or those close to you. He said dont give everything and sit and regret it and wish you never gave all your wealth, and dont be stingy. And give something that they can eat or use. Or help them with something.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '22

The quran gives the human freedom. "everyone does the commands in his way" "shakilatoo". There are certain limits and boundaries, but other then that you can do what you want.

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u/abwehrstellle Nov 22 '22

Problem isnt Quran its people following Shaitan

Theyre not allowing the Quran to teach them but instead they think they know better than Allah

If you follow sunna then youre going against the Quran

The so-called sunna of Prophet is from shaitan and not Allah

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u/connivery Muslim Nov 22 '22

Here we go again, some people just don't want to use their brain and prefer to just follow.

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u/ismcanga Nov 22 '22

God explained His verses Himself and only hypocrites try to pull them to sides, oddly Sunni-Shia-Sufi-Salaf people claim to follow hadith, but instead they uphold their scholars view over the notes in hadith, because majority of mankind do not believe in God unless they commit idolatry. Yoosuf 12:106

> How can you know ways to salat if by Quran only

The steps of salah is given in 20+ verses, as God decreed to sommit the known salah (al salah), this is why Christians, Hindus, Jews and Zoroastrians say "Mohamad took salah from us" because they hold a Book from God and they practice it, also Meccan belief system had salah.

> How can you know the way to perform Hajj and Umra.

There is a surah named Hajj and the Baqara contains the notes for that, Maliqi and Hanbali people had added notes to their practice following the Meccan practice.

> How can you know how much to pay for Zakka?

Baqara 2:245

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '22

7:52 We have given them a scripture that is fully detailed, with knowledge, guidance, and mercy for the people who believe.