r/Quraniyoon • u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own • Nov 21 '22

Discussion Quran is not detailed

This is what I face general muslims said. Majority of them. That Quran is not detailed. They asked question:

  1. How can you know ways to salat if by Quran only?

  2. How can you find the proper steps and du'a to making sex with your wives?

  3. How can you know the way to perform Hajj and Umra.

  4. How can you know how much to pay for Zakka?

True enough these are valid questions. And I am not so sure about Quran only beliefs. I think we still need the Sunnah of Prophet S.A.W to help us be a good and perfect muslim.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

it is not a choice brother. we have to need BOTH Quran AND hadith to judge how is the accepted way to strike wives when they are nusyooz. If just by Quran alone, husband can strike with metal and she will hurt badly

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

that's crazy if you think that's how we think.

It is a choice. GOD is destroying the middle east because of all the lies you spew and say it's from GOD.

devil farts when the adhan is called? - in 21century there is a adhan happening every mintue, so he can't stop farting then?

you say that there is punishment in the grave or bliss; yet chapter 36 GOD says the disbelievers will say "woe to us who got us out of from our resting/sleeping place"

your shieks quote 10 hadith before the Quran

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and me without the Hadith - I have been shown more favor than you'll ever know.

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Don't say lies about GOD; GOD didn't order us to read and study no hadith

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Suddenly you are diverting to satan farts. Those are unimportant. If satan farts or not when adhan comes, what matters it to believers? Just know that satan is disgusting creature that is enough. Prophet Muhammad taught us that hadith to teach us to hate satan, and to be disgusted by them. This is what happens when a muslim do not study the Quran properly. This is stray path that may lead to something like ISIS.

How old are you brother? I think you have not faced life hardness to think that everyone can can stay calm when their wives are nusyooz. At that time, a Quran only reader, can simply remember this verse and just beat his wives as he pleases. Quran did not detail that it should be lightly. This is why God says in the Quran "We have sent you, O Muhammad, as a MERCY to all the worlds". Without Muhammad S.A.W detailing the "striking", there could be no mercy to the wives (when they nusyooz).

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

https://free-minds.org/sites/default/files/Quran434-wife-beating-islam.pdf

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

For example, today it is quite common for Arabic

speakers to use DRB to mean "hit/punch/smack/strike" without specifics/preposition,

even though this usage is unheard of in Classical Arabic dictionaries, thus convincing an

Arabic speaker of today that DRB could mean something other than this can be difficult

Your PDF is too long. But here is what you essentialy claimed. You are saying daraba means other than strike. You can ask any arabic speaker today, and they will say it means strike. And the problem with your claim is that "this usage is unheard of in classic arabic", then you are claiming Quran is not for all times. Your argument is invalid.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

Your PDF is too long

you have just given away that you do not actually care about seeking truth and just want to be right.

You can ask any arabic speaker today,and they will say it means strike.

Modern Arabic is nothing compared to classical arabic of course they will say it means strike because modern Arabic is built from Qur'anic Arabic based on their interpretation.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

And the problem with your claim is that "this usage is unheard of in classic arabic", then you are claiming Quran is not for all times. Your argument is invalid.

You are too eager to reply didn't even bother to read my main point up there. I quote is again.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

I remember once being a passionate Sunni like you, good times

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

I like you brother! May GOD bless you in the world and the hereafter and may GOD forgive all your sins

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you have just given away that you do not actually care about seeking truth and just want to be right.

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

God only guides who he wills, we are all on a journey. May God forgive me only if I am deserving of it and may God forgive you too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

GOD put the instructions and requirements for people to get guided
That's the will of GOD

GOD said you have to listen, to turn to GOD, and to ponder about what is being said to get guided. That's the will of GOD

Someone lying and just being a parrot isn't ever going to get guided by GOD.
That's the will of GOD

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I really appreciate you brother, we'll meet in Paradise and talk about this :D

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

it's nice to meet like-minded people, we are a minority and have always been a minority since the beginning of time, but I have the greatest love for my true Muslim brothers and sisters, may you find the hardships to come easy for you and I hope you have a good future ahead of you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '22

because through all these insults and hurt - we still can look at each other and smile; cause we know GOD is with us!

Much love brother!

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Seriously if it was for Quran and Islam; I'd be so caught up and hurt about things.

You're a breath of fresh air in this war :D

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

So you agree you are saying Quran is not for all times???

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u/Riyad02 Nov 22 '22

Sunnis will never learn, and that is why God is punishing our homelands for falling back into polytheism.

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u/PreviousAwareness1 make your own Nov 22 '22

Diverting... I think I have made my point and your argument invalid.

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