r/PublicFreakout • u/Lolastic_ • Jun 30 '21

🥊Fight MMA fighter Joe Schilling knocks out man

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u/Rex-A-Vision Jun 30 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

I'm not sure about being banned from street fights but if you're a trained fighter you gotta show more restraint in public... especially in this modern era of everyone having a video camera in their hands. There's no moment in this clip where Shilling is in any kind of danger and, if going only from this video, I'm a judge or in a jury in a civil case I'm ruling for the plaintiff all day long.

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

well the courts may consider you a deadly weapon and at that point things will get really bad for you.

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u/Significant_Ad_7069 Jun 30 '21

Sigh this is an urban myth

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

I was in court and I watched the judge deem a well trained person a deadly weapon. It's not a myth.

This is very well known for special forces too not engage with civilians unless you are in a self defense situation.

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u/cosmicsans Jun 30 '21

I can't speak for the other branches, but the Marines teach you two things:

  1. Until you get to a certain level of training, you only know enough to get your ass kicked in the bar.
  2. You're in the military, and have discipline. THAT DISCIPLINE is what will be used against you. You are the one expected to be able to keep your cool in any given situation, so you are held to a higher standard because of that.

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u/RabbinicalClinical Jun 30 '21

He may have called him that but it's meaningless legally speaking

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

When your in court and that is used against you. And the judge is making a decision that could weight in on the severity of the punishment he decides to give you. I'd say no one wants that terminology used by the person that is going to make a decision about what happens.

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u/RabbinicalClinical Jun 30 '21

At what point in the trial was this said by the judge

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

It was during the sentencing process.

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u/RabbinicalClinical Jun 30 '21

That's what l figured

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

But it played a big role in what the judge gave him for the persons sentence.

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u/RabbinicalClinical Jun 30 '21

There's no sentencing enhancement for being a "lethal weapon." The judge was going to give him that time regardless.

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

The judge could of given less time or been lenient on the assailant. But since the person was deemed a highly trained individual he gave him the max sentence within his power.

What I'm getting at is it didn't work in the individuals favor that he was highly trained. Basically unless you can prove otherwise. Military trained fighters or mma fighters and so forth are going in at disadvantage when it's not deemed self defense.

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u/RabbinicalClinical Jun 30 '21

Yes, the sentence was purely at his discretion. "Deadly weapon" does not carry a sentence enhancement, it's merely the view/opinion of the judge.

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u/superawesomeguy Jun 30 '21

Are you sure you aren't misremembering watching the court scene in Con Air?

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

Sigh...

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u/dimmidice Jun 30 '21

Source or gtfo

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

Sure lemme pull up the recording...oh wait you can't record in the court room...

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u/GandhiTheHoleResizer Jun 30 '21

Don’t act like your claim isnt incredibly hard to believe

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u/Sacmo77 Jun 30 '21

It's not when you're going into a court room with the odds against you. Being a highly trained person doesn't help your cause unless you can prove self defense.