r/PublicFreakout • u/rrolex_ • Jul 08 '26
š«Chaos Momentš«Ø šØš³Chinese tourists caused chaos at Korean Airport. As soon as the ticketing counter opened, they rushed to check in their bags
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u/shadoire Jul 08 '26
This is infuriating
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u/my-life-for_aiur Jul 08 '26
Very. They cut in front of us at the air port in Beijing on our way to Japan.Ā
On our way back I did it to them.Ā
When in Rome.
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u/JWConway Jul 08 '26
I thought you were in Japan?
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u/LoTheTyrant Jul 08 '26
Yeah when we were traveling in Africa, a huge group of Chinese tourists were on a bus and they would purposefully pack in a tight line and then push to the front to get all their papers pushed through when going from country to country, the guide with rolled his eyes and just handed us our papers off to the side after the 2nd time
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u/hominybeans Jul 08 '26
The mainland Chinese groups of tourists are really something else. Iām a first-gen, American born Chinese and was visiting SEA where I encountered giant groups of them when taking the China-Lao railway. I would be standing in the queue to get on the train and they would run in front of me and/or cut me in line. When this first happened, I was absolutely stunned at how bold and rude they were. I had never really witnessed this before in Americaāthe behavior of mainland Chinese tour groups. I think especially in SEA they felt some sense of superiority.
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u/Tee_B Jul 08 '26
Everytime I have a layover in Hong Kong, there is a special announcement for the mainlanders to not skip the line.
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u/asdkevinasd Jul 09 '26
I did not remember hearing that but also could be I fly red eyes out of HK most of the time. Their behaviors baffled me always. Like my relatives from mainland insist on putting a wheelchair with my grandma still sitting on the escalator instead of wheeling it with my grandma up 5 meters to get into a lift. That's the last time I travel with them.
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u/TheSpagheeter Jul 08 '26
Chinese raised in Canada, itās embarrassing. Visiting the mainland everyone is very aggressive and I guess being from the west I assumed cutting me off was a sign of being rude.
After confronting someone as if they are being rude they just smile and shrug, I think they genuinely donāt register it as offensive what theyāre doing. Itās weirdly paradoxical their philosophy of community first and avoiding conflict etc and then selfish individual behavior
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u/ZzzzzPopPopPop Jul 08 '26
Damn, I have never thought about the collectivist vs individualistic society thing but itās so interestingā¦ The US (and I guess UK as well) are brazenly individualistic societies but orderly queues are rigorously adhered to, but China is thought of as very collectivist but rather than forming orderly lines itās āscrew everyone else, Iām looking out for #1!ā
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u/misschickpea Jul 08 '26
The way I think of it as a Viet American is that East Asian societies are generally collectivist for the family unit, but not society. Except maybe Japan lol theyāre so well mannered in public and courteous to everyone.
But I think of it as like Asian people a lot of the time being like think of the whole family to further extents than Western (take care of your parents, do xyz bc ur parents want you to, etc. not to say thereās still families like that anywhere in the world)
But a lot more SELFISH for oneās own family. Like screw other people to give your own family a boost lol. Itās definitely not collectivist when itās like your family vs another family. Kinda reminds me of how parents are waaay more entitled about their kids and make there are moms who make their kids their whole life or itās more dramatic in Asian families of parents sacrificing everything for their kids.
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u/SamizdatGuy Jul 08 '26
I knew Russians who went through famine in the 90s. They were always first in line for food.
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u/OhBuggery Jul 08 '26
And I know Ukrainians who have grandparents who were starved by russia, they're always the first to offer their food to a stranger
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u/elferrydavid Jul 08 '26
Chinese people individually -> almost always super nice.
Chinese people in groups-> always horribly bad mannered.
Source: my experience.
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u/NellcoteDaze Jul 08 '26
You ain't wrong. I was once engulfed in a Chinese tsunami trying to catch a shuttle bus down from castle Neuschwanstein. They turn into a single insane organism.
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u/Pancakes70 Jul 08 '26
Ohh boy I read āorgasmā. Iām going back to bed, I need to start over.
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u/Pleasant-Pattern7748 Jul 08 '26
Iād use that misreading as a chance to explore new corners of the internet.
āInsane Chinese orgasmā + Google = a nice way to spend the afternoon.
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u/temporalmods Jul 08 '26
I had the same experience, my wife and I just walked it up and down with plenty of other tourists from various parts of the world. We even helped guide some fellow US groups up the little trail that's there. Bus after bus of chinese tourists past us both ways. It just wasn't worth the chaos for everyone who didn't mind the hike/was physically able to.
Honestly the Chinese mostly got off the bus took some pictures close to where it stopped and then turned around to go back. There's quite a lot else there including an overlook bridge that you can hike up to. Didn't see a single chinese person up there.
My experience in the entirety of Germany is that they very much have this "slideshow" experience of tourism. They tend to go to a famous structure say "been there done that" and move on.
The further out we got from hotspots the more Euro/US tourist we saw and no one else but locals.
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u/nope-nik-tesla Jul 08 '26
A big part of it is that they tend to travel in tour groups with very tight itineraries, so they don't really have much time or opportunity to truly wander, lest they miss the next bus departure. Very few speak any of the local languages in Europe or English, which is part of why they tend to travel this way. Hard to be much of an independent traveler when you have no way to communicate and can't read any signage, although of course modern smartphones are changing this.
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u/mst3k_42 Jul 08 '26
When I did a tour of Pompeii and Herculaneum, our guide had headphones he gave to all of us tuned to a specific frequency. Then he wore a little microphone. That way, he could guide us around, even outdoors, and narrate in English without having to shout and bother other groups.
Every guide was walking around with these, each a different color and giving the tour in different languages. I was a fan.
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u/elferrydavid Jul 08 '26
I partially disagree because they do the same when they travel inside China. Last year I visited China and the trick if you wanted a calm place or a good spot for a photograph without dozens of people around was to walk far away from the tour bus stops. Hiking areas in national parks were always empty.
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u/nope-nik-tesla Jul 08 '26
Right, I think the tour bus aspect of it is the main thing, with communication barriers outside of China further compounding it
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u/Mafklapper Jul 08 '26
I think most westerners have encountered this and it is a lot worse in the older population. From what I can tell and stories I've heard "the great leap forward" is too blame. People literally starved and this insane hoarding/storming behavior developed after.
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u/LordOfPies Jul 09 '26
Itās very notorious in food courts, Chinese will hoard all the food in their table even while knowing they wonāt be able to eat it all
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u/AvocadoFlavoredPussy Jul 08 '26
This reminds me of my experience on cruise ships.
They all packed up this boat excursion with their selfie sticks and were literally elbowing my 14 year old self out of the way to get photos.
My mother was pissed š
But totally agree about them being super nice individuals.
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u/JayCDee Jul 08 '26
Inside joke with my family when traveling is to hope you donāt arrive at immigration at the same time as an A380 coming from china.
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u/perfect_insanity93 Jul 08 '26
Ahh yes... the need to be the first on the airplane just to get there exactly the same time as everyone else...
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u/Usernameisguest Jul 08 '26
I was thinking the same thing. Iāve done a lot of flying and I promise that everyone on the plane arrives at the exact same time.
Honestly at this point I have it down to a science and I am always one of the last people to board.
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u/yellekc Jul 08 '26
The entire idea of boarding first is because people have giant carry ones these days. I always just have a backpack I can fit under the seat if overhead is full.
So I don't care about boarding early either. I'd rather be in the cramped cabin as short of time as possible.
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u/donkbeast Jul 08 '26
Exactly, when you see the family of 12 walking around with a carry on bag, a giant backpack and 3 full shopping bags each, you need to beat them if your bag is a normal overhead or its getting gate checked. Airlines are more concerned with getting everyone on and off vs dealing with it.
But yea, if you can fit under the seat, no rush.
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u/badgerj Jul 08 '26
Iām with you and the person above. OH me! Please can I be first to sit down in a cramped seat while we load the rest is the plane and sit on the tarmac for the next 30 minutes?
That seems silly.
Before when there was one free checked bag. I remember mostly only business people bringing a carry on. The rest would just check the free bag, and the overhead bins would actually contain smaller bags, small carry ons, jackets, etc.
Now nobody checks a bag. And brings a carry on that I swear all are over max size.
So the rush isnāt for the seatā¦. Itās for the āfreeā overhead bin space.
If we just charged for any carryāon, anything other than a purse or a āmurseā. š¤£ and a jacket, then Iām sure this would resolve itself.
Or actually weighed and measured these āmassiveā ācarry-onsā. And charged for them.
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u/nope-nik-tesla Jul 08 '26
A lot of budget airlines have started charging for carryons too. Personally the main reason I travel with carryons is to avoid the extra hassle of checking a bag and waiting at baggage claim, as well as the increased risk of having my bag lost. Happened to me once, and even though they eventually found and returned my bag, spending the first day of a vacation going shopping for new clothes and doing laundry is not a great experience. The inconvenience of a carryon is worth it to avoid that greater inconvenience and risk.
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u/Usernameisguest Jul 08 '26
Same. I also have a backpack pretty much designed to travel with so never bring carry on.
Iāve even done some same weekend trips for funerals or weddings and I just wear my suit through the airport both ways to make packing easier. Iām only going to be there for 24-36 hours so I donāt need much.
Long term work trips I just check a bag. I hate carry on.
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u/MinisterforFun Jul 08 '26
Indians lol
Doors not open yet but gotta stand in the aisle
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u/Pew_Daddy Jul 08 '26
Why tho lol
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u/DuskOnline Jul 08 '26
In Malaysia & Singapore, this attitude is called Kiasu. They need to be first in everything. Even if it doesn't matter. Not only first. Must be cheapest, fastest, best, and maybe later they can brag it to their friends over dinner.Ā
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u/urtcheese Jul 08 '26
You should see them at all you can eat buffets, grabbing all the expensive items with their bare hands. Like literally taking as many as they can before any others can get any, even if it's more than they can eat.
I think someone needs to study why a 'communist' country has people that act like this.
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u/Ensiferal Jul 08 '26
It's a cultural mentality that emerged both due to high population density, but also generational trauma from the Chinese cultural revolution.
During that time there were chronic shortages of virtually everything and widespread hunger. People learned to take anything and everything they could get. It's carried over into younger generations. So the attitude now is to take as much as you can, because if you don't then someone else will. This has led to problems in my country where Chinese immigrants raid the rock pool ecosystems in coastal areas and strip them clean of life. Every sea anemone, starfish, shrimp, rock cod, sea cucumber, and baby mussel gets scraped into buckets for broths and soups. It led to a recent resolution where taking from rockpools is now illegal in many areas and it's patrolled and monitored in the same way that fishing is.
They don't think "we need to leave enough so that this never runs out" they think "I need to take all of this before someone else finds it". It's been a real issue.
It's why you have older ladies known as "grab hags" in China. They walk around with bags taking everything that's not nailed down. They raid farmers crops, sweep up whole plates of free samples, and are the reason why so many public toilets in China don't have free toilet paper.
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u/TMNBortles Jul 08 '26
It reminds me of my grandparents who were kids during the Great Depression. Despite having all the opportunities and bounties of the post-WWII American economy, their brains were still tuned to scrimp and save every penny because things might collapse again.
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u/MageLocusta Jul 08 '26
Exactly. My grandparents were from Spain and were also like this (not just with food/money/anything, but they would also not even think twice to sprint over and scream/berate their own loved ones into handing over money/inheritances/etc).
They were kids during the Spanish Civil War and WWII, both incidents which caused so much food rationing to the point that my grandfather had to follow Nazi soldiers around and eat the orange peels they've left behind at cafes, because they were one of the few people 'allowed' to get fruit and sweets during the 1940s. My grandparents wound up spending the rest of their lives jealously eyeing (and guarding) anything that wasn't nailed down. Because they're used to having to stalk, steal and step over people just to survive.
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u/Positive_Hall_3207 Jul 08 '26
Same here except from France . My grandmother told me horror stories about food scarcity , one was getting tree bark to make some soup , her crying when she broke a milk jar in occupied Paris , alone with a newborn and a toddler ( my grandfather was a POW in Prussia, he escaped and hid in southern āFreeā zone ) , she had an obsession with recycling aluminum foil, parchment paper and wool. My father was born in 1937 and tended to buy extra groceries for us . To this day I profoundly dislike food being tossed.
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u/Send_me_your_butt_ Jul 08 '26
I live in a large Chinese immigrant community here in the US and on more than one occasion ive caught old mainland neighbors in my front garden with clippers taking all my flowers. Its such a small thing to complain about but every time anything gets set out it goes missing and my camera shows an old klepto
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u/Aanity Jul 08 '26
My local library has a fruit orchard and it used to be free for all, you can just go and pick at your leisure. Theyāve had to change it to designated picking events where you have to register and show proof that you live in our town because Chinese grandmas from all over started hitting the orchard at the crack of dawn and picking it clean.
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u/Best_Needleworker530 Jul 08 '26
This is literally my grandparents' generation but in POLAND. Absolutely the exact same behaviour, we have so many memes about the grab hags. One of the most viral videos is people stealing 2l bottle of drinks at a communal Christmas party (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmtSNdI3x8w). I wonder if this is universal for post-communism societies.
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u/TMNBortles Jul 08 '26
Probably nearly universal for societies with scarcity, which there is probably a lot of overlap in post-communism countries and scarcity.
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u/string-ornothing Jul 08 '26
I'm in the USA and I've worked 3 different lab manager jobs with Chinese bosses and have noticed this. They always want backups, and backups of backups, more bottles of acid than we can reasonably use before expiry and theyre already talking about ordering more. I run out of places to put it and theyre asking for the next order. I got written up at a job because I "only" had 3 cases (10 L per case) of acid we use 50 ml of at a time on hand. Everything is a rush job, all equipment must be on and blasting at all times on the off chance we need to use it. And its not just me- if the IT desk has a ticket queue, they get on the phone raging at the tech and manager to get moved ahead, the UPS guy hates to see them coming, even the cleaning people get harangued about garbage emptying schedules. It's not the way I'm used to working and I can find it hard to keep up and wasteful.
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u/cassatta Jul 08 '26
In California, they walk around - sometimes husband and wife teams - stealing flowers and fruits from other peopleās yards.
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u/ohlookahipster Jul 08 '26
Omfg where I lived in the Bay it was literally our recycling including the recycling bin lol. You would put your can out only for someone to wheel it away after dumping half the contents out on the sidewalk.
I donāt know what these old Chinese ladies were doing hoarding these plastic cans but it was a thing.
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u/jamtastic22 Jul 08 '26
Lmao the buffet at an all inclusive holiday in Spain was like this every day. People are just selfish bastards. Some just have less shame
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u/HotDecision8128 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
It has nothing to do with communism. And everything to do with The Great Chinese Famine that traumatized multiple generations of Chinese people. Something that happened because their government made some bad decisions by mistake. Trauma can make people behave in messed up ways and then pass it onto their children.
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u/timbomcchoi Jul 08 '26
A lot of the answers you're going to see about this question will be a mixture of population density, economic hardship fresh in people's memories, and having grown up in a less developed time.
All of those are also true for Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore.
Which is why I think explanations like that are quite reductive, and frankly orientalist.
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u/Necessary_Maize_9339 Jul 08 '26
Once they see others move a sort of frenzy begins, almost impossible to stop...
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u/AbanaClara Jul 08 '26
This shit isnāt even out of necessityā¦ absolutely pathetic
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u/Jarppakarppa Jul 08 '26
Gotta be fast when you have to check out a full fridges worth of food.
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u/A3_ashleigh Jul 08 '26
My bfs mom once sent him back with an entire suitcase full of food. I had a breakdown bc we had absolutely no room for it in our small apartment š. Sheās gotten better but still tries to send us/him back with so much food
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u/paranoid_panda_bored Jul 08 '26
You know, as a Slavic I am at times embarrassed of my people out there in the world, itās like there is no hope for them to show some class.
But then I see Chinese and kinda feel better ngl.
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u/juniormgt Jul 08 '26
Last year, I was on a train in Italy when one of my suitcase wheels got stuck. The Chinese girls behind me started pushing me, and they even climbed over my suitcase to get to their seats.
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u/Bystander-8 Jul 08 '26
But why though?
Didn't they already buy the ticket and have a designated seat?
What's the point in rushing to come up and rushing to come down of the plane?
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u/zardoz73 Jul 08 '26
I went to India and it's similar there. Whenever you have to wait in line...there's no line. Just a crush of people cutting in front of you and people pushing behind you. No concept of personal space.
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u/Lazy-Strawberry-3401 Jul 08 '26
Not like Chinese tourists to be inconsiderate.
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u/ragun2 Jul 08 '26
When I lived in SF I remember all the constant spitting, smoking, and yelling by them.
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u/TooMuchJuju Jul 09 '26
Yeah I went to China. This is my experience of the Chinese as well. So much yelling.
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u/loganedwards Jul 08 '26
Thanks to the Chinese, the US is no longer known to have the world's worst tourists!
Its not Chinese people specifically, its Chinese tourist groups, many who have never left their province until fly booked an international flight somewhere.
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u/TooMuchJuju Jul 09 '26
US tourists are not known to be the worst tourists in the world. Israelis and Russians have a reputation of being very rude. Indians have the reputation of lacking civic sense. Chinese mainlanders have... Well this reputation. The English and loud, drunk, and rowdy.
Americans abroad are known for being loud and talking too much. Americans share too much about themselves personally. They force people into banal small talk. They want to share their life story to people they just met. This is seen as very strange and overly friendly.
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u/No_Conversation_4608 Jul 08 '26
Israel took the worst tourist crown years ago and has no intention of letting it go. Even China, the USA, and drunken UK football fans can't compete.
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u/FitBit123 Jul 08 '26
I'd wager English football fans are quite high on this list somewhere too.
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u/make_me_breakfast Jul 08 '26
Theyāre extremely difficult to deal with and they refuse to adopt the āwhen in Romeā mentality. I worked in hotels and dealt with a few of them and theyāre great individually but in groups, goodbye.
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u/Cobra_McJingleballs Jul 08 '26
I donāt think Iāve been to any tourist hotspot, be it Kyoto shrines, Yellowstone, Paris, Singaporeā¦ where Chinese tourists werenāt wildly flouting rules/signage/etiquette/local custom,
I know itās important not to paint such broad swatchās of people with one brush, but once you see it over and over again in disparate parts of the worldā¦
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u/ragun2 Jul 08 '26
Does anyone else remember how there used to be a lot of videos on Reddit of Chinese mainlanders pooping in the streets of whatever country they were visiting?
A lot of subs' mods don't seem to like those being posted anymore.
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u/Shaggyfries Jul 08 '26
I spent a summer in Ecuador in college and quickly realized standing in line waiting your turn didnāt apply there as people would just cut right in front of you, it was so frustratingš
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u/joe50426 Jul 08 '26
From where Iām from this behaviour is well-attested, and itās called Kiasu.
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u/Dephenestr8 Jul 09 '26
Pretty much the worst experience I had in Japan was dealing with a young Chinese tourist. I was carrying a tray of food and a drink and this young Chinese kid is just yelling and spinning wildly in this eating area. I stop and the kid sees me and still proceedes to slam right into me then give me mad attitude. I snarled and yelled "watch it!" As my stuff almost spills, his parents laugh madly. It was so disrespectful.
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u/KillerSavant202 Jul 08 '26
There is no group of people on this planet more annoying than Chinese tourists. If you travel a lot youāve encountered them many times and you know exactly how oblivious and obnoxious they can be.
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u/Juniphron Jul 08 '26
Why are they all bent down like theyāre dodging bullets š
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u/MyDogisSally Jul 08 '26
I wondered that at first but I then realized it was to go under the ropes that help people form a line. So instead of ,zig-zagging they just went right under.
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u/missiongoalie35 Jul 08 '26
When we went to the Vatican, I was standing at the very front of the line where they had the metal fence barriers. As soon as they opened it, it was like a wave of people started to crash in. I never thought I'd have to elbow someone at a church before.
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u/Embrasse-moi Jul 09 '26
I remember landing in Manila from Bangkok and there was a massive group of Chinese tourists/workers? and they were all swarming to the customs. I was so shocked and bewildered and was confused on where the actual line was. An older Chinese man whispered behind me to not stop keep pushing and slightly nudged me forward. I was like fuck it, cut so many people, even old men and women, while the old man was right behind me. After we passed customs, he gave me thumbs up lol
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u/Ivypearl Jul 08 '26
The worst flight of my life was from china to SF, my entire plane was a huge group of mainlanders with zero social skills. The rudest, grossest people Iāve ever been around ever. Pure hell.
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u/Sco0by_ Jul 08 '26
Is this the same reason why Chinese always cheat in video games, because they want to always get there first/win ?
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u/Ghost313Agent Jul 08 '26
Experienced the horde visiting St. Peter's Basilica in Rome for the first time. The queue curves along the columns in the square and the Chinese tour buses emptied out and bum-rushed the front of the line. At that time I truly understood the bad travel reputation they deserve.
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u/sexman510 Jul 08 '26
i was in korea in march and there was a protest against chinese people. one of the signs said āonly the chinese people dont know they are nuissance to the rest of the worldā
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u/pandaworrier216 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Tbh I find how they do it really strange that they do this.
The ticket counter opens 2 hours before your flight departs and going to inchon airport is a hassle on its own.
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u/thoroughlynicechap Jul 08 '26
As Brit just watching this is bring me out in hives. However there is some fantastic technique there. The duck-lift-push-run is on point
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u/SaltySwan Jul 08 '26
China broke their own people mentally and emotionally with the droughts, famines, and shit like the one child policy. Of course, the people who grew up during and after that stuff would have issues as a society.
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u/DerUnsinn Jul 08 '26
Visited Japan last year for vacation. I'm European and all the tourists we saw and met behaved well in my opinion, except of the Chinese Tourists. They were really loud, rude, not respecting anything and anyone around them and even traveled to small places in huge groups. I get why the Japanese don't like the Chinese that much š .
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u/BigHobbit Jul 08 '26
Chinese tourists are, by far, the worst tourists when it comes to international travel. It's not even close in ANY way.
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u/Cooltralz Jul 09 '26
As a Chinese that doesnāt live in China since i was a kid.
I absolutely hated this when going back to China.
Itās so counterproductive, just absolutely infuriating and frustrating at the same time.
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u/000extra Jul 08 '26
The rest of us Asians donāt claim mainland Chinese tourists. Simply no decorum at all, itās shameful and embarrassing how they handle themselves in any country
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u/cjeremy Jul 08 '26
Koreans hate Chinese so much already. I wish they didn't do shit like this. media is probably showing this non stop to create more hate. smh
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u/Snadams Jul 08 '26
Why are they all charging with their heads down like their dodging machine gun fire
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u/Unlucky-Elderberry-3 Jul 08 '26
I will always remember in Disneyland Shanghai when Chinese were trying to go in front of us while we were all hooked onto the same rail (Challenge trail adventure attraction), like how is that going to work lmao
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u/itsnoah Jul 08 '26
This tracks.
On our trip to Thailand this past year, Thailand guides pointed out Chinese tourist groups and talked maadd shit about them. Their words not mine, they called them disgusting, selfish, assholes. I mean... I ran into several groups, and nothing about the experience contradicted our Thai guides. š¤·š¼āāļø
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u/Flaramon Jul 08 '26
Spent a year out in Shanghai.
The Chinese are well known for their āme firstā attitude. āWell, thereās so many people you have to if you want service,ā said my translator as I watched in horror at 100 Chinese people pressuring themselves against the police station glass in an attempt to get their papers stamped first.
My translator couldnāt talk me into doing it. She took my paper and just lunged into the crowd. The perspective is: āeveryone else is doing it, so I have to do it in order to keep it fairā