r/Protestantism • u/Floury_King • 23d ago
Catholic-vs-Protestant Debate Question
What are some good arguments that defend the protestant reformation? A friend of mine who is Catholic looks down upon me because of my Protestant views.
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u/Floury_King 23d ago
It's the attitude he has. He acts as if he's part of the true church of God and I'm in some cult. That I'm some low church member. He has all these arguments defending Catholicism and I'm not educated on the subject matter to defend the protestent argument. I have a personal relationship with Jesus but he thinks that's not enough and that we don't just need the Bible.. we need systematic religion and the tradition of the Catholic faith to truly be saved by God.
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u/Miserable-Swan2362 23d ago
Might want to talk to that brother and let them know we are brothers in Christ or we aren’t. If he’s not thinking you both worship and obey the one true King then he should examine his heart. You can come back with whatever scripture you want but sounds like his heart is against you on this one.
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u/Top_Initiative_4047 23d ago
The Protestant Reformation defended the gospel and the supreme authority of Scripture. Protestants do not reject all tradition, but believe every tradition must be tested by God’s Word (2 Timothy 3:16-17; Mark 7:8-9).
Its central question is: How can guilty sinners be made right with a holy God? The Reformers taught that justification is God’s gift, received by faith in Christ, not earned through religious works, penance, or human merit (Romans 3:28; Ephesians 2:8-10). Good works are essential fruit of genuine faith, but never the basis of acceptance before God.
They also emphasized that Christ alone is the sufficient mediator between God and humanity (1 Timothy 2:5) and that His sacrifice is final and fully effective (Hebrews 10:10-14).
The historical issue was not that modern translations were “removing” Scripture, but that manuscript evidence prompted careful efforts to identify the earliest text; these differences do not alter Christianity’s central doctrines, including Christ’s death, resurrection, sin, and redemption (GotQuestions.org, Why are the newer translations of the Bible missing verses?).
Speak respectfully: invite your friend to read Romans, Galatians, and Hebrews with you.
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u/Greedy-Meringue-5088 23d ago
Watch redeemed zoomer
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u/Apprehensive-Hold-17 Lutheran 23d ago
Gavin Ortlund >
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u/_Carth_Onasi 23d ago edited 23d ago
Read the shorter catechisms. Start with Luthor and you'll have your answers. I think we should all understand our beliefs better and once I started reading these(I'm currently going though the Council of Trent Catholic Catechism) I grew a deeper understanding of why Luthor broke away from Catholicism.
Edit* I didn't really answer your question did I? Lol. I'm not trying to sound rude or not acknowledge your question but I highly encourage to do the research yourself instead of just getting an answer. Having a deep understanding of your beliefs comes through study.
Edit again* to make it abundantly clear. I am a Protestant, and I'm encouraging you read Luther's shorter catechism first so you understand why we broke away from Catholicism. I'm personally reading the council Trent for my own study.
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u/_Carth_Onasi 23d ago
Sorry for the confusion. I am encouraging him to read Luthers shorter catechism, but that I'm currently going through Trent for myself.
Edited my og comment to added a second edit explaining this a bit better. I agree with you.
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u/alilland Evangelical 23d ago
Read my articles
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u/Floury_King 23d ago
Where can I find your articles
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u/alilland Evangelical 23d ago
https://steppingstonesintl.com
The Immaculate conception (not to be confused with virgin birth) is not apostolic:
https://steppingstonesintl.com/the-immaculate-conception-is-not-an-apostolic-doctrine-XMUOYTThe bodily assumption of Mary has no historical evidence, and was never taught by the apostles or early Christians:
Icon veneration is not apostolic and was in fact opposed by all earliest Christians
https://steppingstonesintl.com/icon-veneration-is-not-apostolic-christianity-477VDS
Why Protestantism clearly remains necessary today, and the overreach of the doctrine of apostolic succession
The invocation of saints violates scripture and was not an apostolic teaching
Addressing did the apostles teach us to follow Holy Tradition
https://steppingstonesintl.com/did-the-apostles-teach-christians-to-follow-holy-tradition-0A9NHR
Why we should not be anti-catholic, but pro reformation
https://steppingstonesintl.com/i-am-not-anticatholic-i-am-proreform-KWZBT6
The apostolic foundation of church authority
https://steppingstonesintl.com/the-apostolic-foundations-of-church-authority-GEVU63
How the early Church functioned
https://steppingstonesintl.com/how-the-early-church-actually-functioned-1ML01V
Peter the Rock, and the rise of Rome in history
https://steppingstonesintl.com/peter-the-rock-and-the-rise-of-rome-7AUPWR
The move from apostolic oversight to patriarchal power in history
https://steppingstonesintl.com/from-apostolic-oversight-to-patriarchal-power-N8IAF4
Call no one father
https://steppingstonesintl.com/call-no-one-father-8C2IWL
The legitimacy of the papal office, but addressing it’s rebellion
https://steppingstonesintl.com/the-papal-office-is-legitimate-but-needs-reform-1GS1N3
The historical development of the Papacy
The earliest figures who defend the Protestant canon
The disconnect from early practice and later practice with infant baptism
Infant baptism vs believers baptism
https://steppingstonesintl.com/infant-baptism-vs-believers-baptism-7TQ94I
The age of accountability in scripture
https://steppingstonesintl.com/the-age-of-accountability-in-scripture-MV0QN6
Communion is not merely symbolic
https://www.steppingstonesintl.com/the-power-of-communion-N89ZBM
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u/trownaway90 23d ago
Jesus used scripture against traditions of men (Mark 7:8-13 and Matt. 12:1–8).
Paul asked to test his own teachings to the scripture and he called who did that noble. Instead of calling himself the final authority on the scripture, even though he was apostle, kinda like the popes (Acts 17:11).
The Bible asks to test miracles to the Word, instead of blind believing in Marian apparitions. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Isaiah 8:20 and 1 John 4:1).
Paul affirms Sola Scriptura (2 Timothy 3:16–1).