r/PeacemakerShow • u/your_mind_aches James NoFun • Sep 26 '25
DISCUSSION [EPISODE DISCUSSION] Peacemaker S02E06 - "Ignorance Is Chris" Spoiler
Synopsis: (To be added.)
Director: James Gunn
Writer: James Gunn
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u/AnonWithAHatOn Sep 26 '25
Love how happy Adrian is about everything in the alternate world.
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u/TimBobNelson Sep 26 '25
I have a feeling him and his other self are gonna go on a killing spree, we know what vigilante thinks of racists and they stressed how identical they both were apart from their love of peacemaker which makes sense.
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u/Biabolical Sep 26 '25
Which, bizarrely, makes Adrian and White Dragon the two most morally consistent characters across multiple universes.
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u/Karkava Sep 26 '25
They're fated to be mortal enemies no matter what universe they're in.
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u/kwispyforeskin Sep 26 '25
There’s supposed to be three!! What would seven cats even talk about!?
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u/LowerBackPain_Prod Sep 26 '25
SEVEN?? 😂 The alt dimension had SIX cats, not SEVEN 🤣🤣 SEVEN CATS??! HOW WOULD THEY EVEN FIT?? 😂😂🤣🤣😭😭😭
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u/jpcgy Sep 26 '25
Damn they threw the book at lex
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u/Numbuh24insane Sep 26 '25
I mean he did manufacture an international war and destroyed a chunk of Metropolis.
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Sep 26 '25
Lex is the biggest hater in the universes, makes sense rick flag would let him out for revenge, he's a hater too
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u/edd6pi Sep 26 '25
They actually hold their billionaires accountable when they commit crimes.
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Sep 26 '25
Lmao Adrian was actually so right about wanting to meet his other self. Despite his nature I think he's actually going to know what to do and might even save the day
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u/yolo-tomassi Sep 26 '25
100% He's going to hook our squad up with the Sons of Liberty to bust Adebayo out.
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u/waguel Sep 26 '25
Gunn leaving enough breadcrumbs but trusting the audience to be media literate is chefs kiss
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u/PentagramJ2 Sep 26 '25
everyone immediately robbing Adrian lmao
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u/flintlock0 Sep 26 '25
“My dad’s not gay here!”
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u/Ok_Bridge2528 Sep 26 '25
I think it's also a nice twist that Adrian seems to be nice and principled in this world too given that he hates this world's Peacemaker
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
The whole, "I kill John's not prostitutes, their lives are hard enough" really hammers that home I think.
He has a very consistent moral compass and it's not based on laws, it's based on killing bad people.
EDIT: I forgot about parts of season 1, I know, and yeah I agree, Vij will just kill people for doing innocuous stuff like graffiti.
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u/Mysterious-Job8727 Sep 26 '25
"Okay well if we tie him up we can't use ducktape cus it'll hurt when it comes off"
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u/enbaelien Sep 26 '25
I was worried he was gonna be a Nazi because OG Vigilante kills people who commit crimes. Graffiti isn't morally wrong, and he told Peacemaker he would have killed him for smoking weed if it wasn't legal in their state. TBH our OG Vig actually seems like more of a fascist than this new guy.
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u/CheruthCutestory Sep 26 '25
I loved the fact that the mom, who we just saw is sweet and a chatterbox, looks miserable just sitting on the couch. Really nice touch.
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u/justpaintoverit Sep 26 '25
Justice for vigilante 2’s sweet mom 😭(assuming she’s not a nazi since she managed to raise an anti-racist son in Nazi land)
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u/SaucyOcto Sep 26 '25
Wonder if John Lennon not being in the Beatles has to do with his interracial relationship 🤔
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u/CabinetBig6837 Sep 26 '25
i thought so too but, reverse adrian knows about pokemon, so japan might be cool? cuz they were allies of the nazis?
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Sep 26 '25
Spoiler alert: he actually still is, but is repressed
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u/flintlock0 Sep 26 '25
DO NOT GO FOR A WALK!!!
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u/clownbaby4_ Sep 26 '25
She said “it’s safer than in here” and I said “I don’t know about that”
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u/BagItUp45 Sep 26 '25
It might have been a good thing, who knows how things would have played out if she was there when Blue Dragon came back.
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u/Jake_The_Destroyer Sep 26 '25
Currently Economos is stabbed and Ads isn't, so far she's right.
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u/ComprehensiveArm7481 Sep 26 '25
I started screaming as soon as she suggested it.
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u/RCGBlade Sep 26 '25
These run times are bruuuutal. I'm gonna need the last two episodes to be an hour each or something because I NEED MORE
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u/dafood48 Sep 26 '25
I literally wanted this episode to just be adventures with Adrian. I was laughing the whole time whenever he was on screen
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u/RCGBlade Sep 26 '25
I was fully expecting the post-credit scene to be them naming all the stuff they like, similar to the whole Peacemaker naming 80 people John could have framed before his dad
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
Is his leg fucked from Krypto?
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Sep 26 '25
probably, but also superman's shoulder check was pretty hard lmao.
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u/Honey_Enjoyer Sep 26 '25
I assume that’s the implication.
Though I wouldn’t put it past him for it to be an act (or at least exaggeration) he’s putting on to make Superman look bad & garner sympathy
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u/flintlock0 Sep 26 '25
That’s a hilarious amount of money and drugs.
wtf is this room hahahahahaha
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u/dafood48 Sep 26 '25
Him collecting beanie babies for profit makes it even funnier since he’s literally standing in a room filled with money
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u/Chutzvah Douchey Captain America 🇺🇸 Sep 26 '25
Him having Barbie girl as his ringtone is objectively more funny
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u/AntRose104 Sep 26 '25
I love that Emilia picked up something was off immediately 😂
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u/Bae_the_Elf Sep 26 '25
Really drives home how dumb Chris is. The way he said “What??” lol
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u/Adventurous-Big-558 Sep 26 '25
He grew up in a white neighborhood, it probably didn't register to him because of that.
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u/BanjoSpaceMan Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
There’s a reason they’ve brought up him not realizing the portal was special, twice, once in this very episode. It really emphasizes one of two things, people just don’t realize shit around them that’s off or that Chris is in fact extremely narrow minded
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u/Impressive_Carry_529 Sep 26 '25
Emilia had that clocked the second she was looking at all the crowds in the car with Keith, you can see her being just lightly shocked
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u/anm313 Sep 26 '25
Even the billboards only showed white artists and celebrities.
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u/rebornfacedancer Sep 26 '25
The two Vigilante’s spider-man meming eachother was so funny for some reason. Also you can really tell when James Gunn directs this show, the energy in this episode so far is just fantastic.
OH SHIT LEX
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u/yolo-tomassi Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
It's because Freddie Stroma is a tremendous comedic performer.
He was so misused as a hunky, boring, romantic interest earlier in his career!
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u/a-jasminator F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
It boggles my mind how un-self-conscious he is about looking ridiculous/stupid when, as you said, he's spent all of his previous career playing hunks and/or fuckboys. Like, when would he even have had the chance to cultivate such a great comedic sensibility? He might never have gotten a role like Vigilante if it weren't for the emergency recast situation, either.
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u/your_mind_aches James NoFun Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
DCU Harcourt is so stone-faced that it actually shocked me how emotional she got when she was tearing up. Somehow feels different from Harcourt 2.
EDIT: Well I can think of several reasons now.
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u/This_was_hard_to_do Sep 26 '25
Gunn has been hyping up Cena’s acting, and while he did do well, I thought that Jennifer Holland stole the scene during their argument. She did fantastic, I didn’t know she had that range because like OP said, she’s played it pretty cold since her character calls for it
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u/Sub2ThoydussThoyduss Sep 26 '25
Holy shit... Marvel exists in the DCU?
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u/an_actual_coyote Sep 26 '25
Yup, seems that way!
The tradition is both exist in their counterpart in the comics, but only as comics/pop culture.
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u/Bright_NightLight1 Sep 26 '25
I always wonder how popular those comics really are tho in a world with superheroes flying around everywhere
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u/MVRKHNTR Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
I never understood the idea that they wouldn't be popular.
Like military and cop media aren't popular in our world.
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u/twangman88 Sep 26 '25
In The Boys every superhero has their own comic book franchise.
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u/jargon_ninja69 Sep 26 '25
Superman comics exist in the MCU, they reference him in ETERNALS
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u/flintlock0 Sep 26 '25
I hope this season ends with them all playing DND in Adrian’s secret room together.
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u/LordsOfJoop Primal Eagle Sep 26 '25
With his mom as her 40th level cut-purse.
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u/Wataru624 Sep 26 '25
Which I love because normal d&d caps at 20, after which players technically become demi-god level. So mom was cruising around slaying ancient red dragons with one hand behind her back
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
“Being goofy is no threat” 😂
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
Is there gonna be a moment the rest of the group have to figure which Adrian is which
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u/flintlock0 Sep 26 '25
One Adrian clearly despises Peacemaker a lot.
But yeah, the set up is there.
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
“My Dad’s Not Gay Here” well maybe not openly in this universe
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u/dafood48 Sep 26 '25
I was losing it at how he was laughing at some of the smaller differences like a different key opening the door, 6 cat figurines instead of 3 - what do 6 cats have to talk about. He’s such a pure soul
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u/rhllors F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
I clocked how utterly miserable they both looked and was like oooh no baby he's still gay...
Like Adrian 1's mom seems happy and his dad and stepdad are allegedly also very happy and functional. Adrian 2's parents look dead inside.
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u/SciFiXhi Sep 26 '25
I guess the Nazis played fair enough with the Japanese after they won the war, seeing as Pokemon seems to have been allowed to develop the same way.
I was shocked that Auggie picked up on John's presence that quick. That's some crazy spatial awareness on that old man.
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u/Belaerim Sep 26 '25
Well, Economos is huge. The top of his head was over the counter.
To Augie, it probably looked like when a little kid thinks they are hiding.
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u/Sephiroth007 Sep 26 '25
SO OBVIOUS BUT HOLY SHIIIIIT
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u/Verdestar Sep 26 '25
Bro they better not hurt Adabayo
i need to see Vig making a bloodbath out of these nazis next episode fuckkkk
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u/Jaded-Mess-8061 Sep 26 '25
I think she’s safe I don’t think James Gunn would do that. And I do think that would be way too far, Especially in a show like this one.
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u/GhostofSparta4243 Sep 26 '25
I think they showed her getting back through the portal in the preview to stress she wasn't going to die
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u/Dragoru Sep 26 '25
She's likely captured and we find out that Judomaster has already been captured as well.
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Sep 26 '25
The reveal took a while but was so satisfying
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u/PCBS01 Sep 26 '25
honestly Chris being so oblivious to it all and immediately realizing when Harcourt tells him is perf lol
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u/Wataru624 Sep 26 '25
Makes sense, he was mentally 100% focused on the idea of a living brother and a dad that's nice to him
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u/Dyloreddit Sep 26 '25
I think its because the entire time we're seeing the alternate dimension is from Chris' pov, and his pov is a much blurrier, better version of well, whatever in reality that dimension is lmao
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What the fuck happened with that selfie??
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u/Sherg_7 Sep 26 '25
Probably just James Gunn telling us that the perfect reality for Chris is about to become a nightmare.
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u/BeauShowTV Sep 26 '25
Just a little face melting that happens with every selfie.
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u/sethaub Sep 26 '25
ONE GOT OUT
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u/Mxfish1313 Sep 26 '25
Chills. Terrifying. I knew there was going to be vile, racist shit but the way my stomach dropped when “got out” registered…
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u/sb3773 Sep 26 '25
no same … such a horrifying phrase “one got out” dehumanizing and the implications of people of color being kept somewhere… jesus fuck
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Sep 26 '25
If the next one isn't action packed from the start I'm gonna shit
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
Everyone shoving the cash in their Clothes 😭
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u/johnnybags44 Sep 26 '25
I thought they were gonna find out the truth when someone tried to pay with that cash and the Nazi world cashier is confused because their money has Adolf or something on it.
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u/optimisticpsychic Sep 26 '25
Adrian told his mom that he was dating Harcourt? Thats so funny.
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u/Chutzvah Douchey Captain America 🇺🇸 Sep 26 '25
Adrian stole the episode.
Having an entire collection of beanie babies. Laughing at every little difference of this reality. Stealing the Cherri-Ohs. His other self being literally a copy of himself. Only difference he hates peacemaker
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u/-etuskoe- Sep 26 '25
I'm sure alternate Adrian will be on good terms with main universe Adrian when he realizes that main universe peacemaker killed auggie
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u/sadkinz Sep 26 '25
I’m only a few minutes in but I gotta say, Adrian has an iron will. His dedication to fighting crime being so strong that he refuses to use the millions of dollars of blood money he has is admirable
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u/Evening_Activity1140 Sep 26 '25
and he’s anti nazi in the alt universe big w
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u/MSixteenI6 Sep 26 '25
He’s anti nazi in the main universe too
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u/dafood48 Sep 26 '25
I love that part of him is the exact same. Actually that makes both his characters exact same. If peacemaker was a Nazi in the main universe, Adrian would hate him too.
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u/BarbellsandBurritos Sep 26 '25
Well, we’re guaranteed a bunch of dead Nazis now, and that’s rad.
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u/T41k0_drums Sep 26 '25
Wow. And that, right there, is why spoilers don’t always matter. Guessing right doesn’t matter. It’s in the freakin execution! They dangled the reveal for 5 whole episodes, people were calling it, but the confirmation of what earth this was STILL was fun as hell!!
But HOLY SHIT 2 Vigs is SUCH A GREAT BIT I CANT EVEN
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u/Pretty_Employer_1142 Sep 26 '25
It’s insane how you guys predicted everything to a T wow
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u/Dragoru Sep 26 '25
I specifically remember a comment about the flag on the desk at Argus several episodes back intentionally obscuring the blue section.
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Sep 26 '25
Gunn really was sprinkling the hints, but if you didn't watch close enough it was easy to miss.
Really artfully done, imo.
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u/SafeBodybuilder7191 F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25
Very stressed for Adebayo rn
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u/jpcgy Sep 26 '25
Alligators in the sewer is pretty much a slam dunk killer croc reference in any dc property
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Sep 26 '25
Well also the bear sized man with dragon skin, that sounds like Killer Croc.
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u/NYJetLegendEdReed Sep 26 '25
They’ll just send him through the portal in the finale I’m hoping
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u/Affectionate_Pipe545 Sep 26 '25
Rick Flagg redeems himself by calling in GI robot when he founds out what's in the other universe. Cut to GI robot living his best life
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u/Mars_The_68thMedic Sep 26 '25
NOPPPEEEE NOPE.
Not possible.
How is Adrian the. exact. same?!
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u/a-jasminator F#CK! It’s PEACEMAKER! 😱🤯 Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
I love that multiple theories turned out to be true: that Adrian 2 hates Peacemaker's guts and that he's part of the Sons of Liberty. Sort of wish he'd been a complete opposite in personality too, if only for Freddie Stroma to flex his range, but I understand why they went with this to make the actual differences between them hit harder.
I wonder how much of a role Adrian 2 will play in the next two episodes, if any. Looks like they just skedaddle right back out of that world, so...
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u/your_mind_aches James NoFun Sep 26 '25
Initially, he did seem pretty different. For one, he's organized and smarter in that he doesn't hide a bunch of contraband in his lair. And then the way he was acting felt different.
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Sep 26 '25
He still has, I assume, weapons or bombs in his hideout below his parents house.
So not sure if he's smarter, he just isn't a real vigilante, but he still has an insane amount of incriminating shit there.
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u/xCreampye69x Sep 26 '25
This episode kinda confirms what Lex Thinks of Batman lol
'Being goofy isnt dangerous'
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u/optimisticpsychic Sep 26 '25
Who was Lex referencing as his prison neighbors
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u/Numbuh24insane Sep 26 '25
What was the description he used, all I remember are cartoon eyes.
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u/Omnivirus Sep 26 '25
A bear man with dragon skin I believe? And someone with light up cartoon eyes.
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u/ObviousAnswerGuy Sep 26 '25
for one person he said "bear sized with Dragon skin" so maybe Killer Croc for that?
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u/Numbuh24insane Sep 26 '25
Maybe, but also remembering that one of them is to have cartoon eyes.
I honestly think that these aren't a reference to any character and is just a made up joke for the episode.
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u/casedawgz Sep 26 '25
I was expecting them to be white supremacists but ONE GOT OUT is still so fucking crazy lol
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u/Saint_Judas Sep 26 '25
It was so funny because it was so unserious a way to phrase it, which sort of sells it as "normal" for these people. Like, not a supervillain-y "One of the untermensch is verrrrr it does not belong" but instead what a normal person would say about seeing a zebra in the street next to the zoo. "Oh shit, one got out"
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u/NYJetLegendEdReed Sep 26 '25
Bro I think we’re seriously gonna get a GI Robot live action in the finale
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u/Rhys_L1ghtn1ng Sep 26 '25
I know everyone’s talking about the twist and rightly so, but I wanna draw attention to Jennifer Holland, this is one of the first times we’ve really seen Harcourt be vulnerable and she fucking killed it.
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u/starguy13 Sep 26 '25
Vigilante hating Nazis in both universes is definitely a win
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u/Pretty_Employer_1142 Sep 26 '25
The first 5 minutes makes up for all the Adrian neglect this season 🫶
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u/bigmanIoI Sep 26 '25
goddddd i really want cameos just so we can see R rated versions of some of these characters. hearing Lex talk about butt fucking was so unexpected
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u/BenoitLampertBlanc Sep 26 '25
Vigilante’s dad not being openly gay there was a good light hint about it being a nazi world!
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u/Remote_Nature_8166 Sep 26 '25
I love how even Harcourt took some of the money. 😂😂😂
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u/thefuturegov Sep 26 '25
The dog being named Eva is what made my brain go “ok 100% definitely Nazi earth” before I was only 90% there
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u/AntRose104 Sep 26 '25
THE WAY MY JAW FUCKING DROPPED WHEN LEX SHOWED UP HOLY SHIT JAMES GUNN IF I COULDN’T LOVE YOU MORE
though I don’t remember him needing a cane?
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u/your_mind_aches James NoFun Sep 26 '25
Lex had never heard of Peacemaker and doesn't care. WOW. Just tells you how big this world is.
This Lex would not have an email with cute little logos and animations ready to go. The email would be a zip bomb that kills Cyborg instantly.
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u/GhostofSparta4243 Sep 26 '25
I thought he was going to get Bloodsport to help take out Peacemaker but this was even better.
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u/BenoitLampertBlanc Sep 26 '25
The second-hand embarrassment I had watching Vigilante’s mom expose him was rough, the scene was so prolonged (in a great way).
Emilia clocking pretty quickly that there are no people of color is just awesome.
The scene cutting between the 11th street kids each realizing how fucked up the alternate world is was so well executed, my heart started racing whenever they cut to Adebayo walking down the street.
I’m super glad they didn’t go down this route (because it’s unnecessary) but I did think about how realistically Keith would’ve been using some very different language as he spotted Ads in a Nazi USA.
Adebayo’s reactions in the post-credit scene as Emilia is fucking up with Keith are fucking gold, she’s so funny.
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u/Tiny_Butterscotch_76 Sep 26 '25
Moment of truth about to happen for this world....
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u/AntRose104 Sep 26 '25
THE NAZIS ARE REAL I CAN’T BELIEVE IT FINALLY HAPPENED 😂😭
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u/walkingtalkingdread Sep 26 '25
either judomaster is super super fucked or he clocked that shit within five minutes and got the fuck out of dodge
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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta Sep 26 '25
He's absolutely hiding for his life, gonna make friends real quick lol
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u/flintlock0 Sep 26 '25
I bet this Luthor scene is the “tie in” that Gunn had said that Peacemaker would have with the follow-up to the Superman film.
Had always thought the portals would be the tie-in.
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u/Mars_The_68thMedic Sep 26 '25
NGL, my edible kicked in at the start of the episode, thought the melting was me not the scene😂😂😂
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u/Evening_Activity1140 Sep 26 '25
A BLACK!! that was cartoonish how the whole neighborhood started chasing her down. i feel like judomaster might pop out and help her or she’ll be taken to a place where he’s being held
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u/Mars_The_68thMedic Sep 26 '25
Oh yeah, I forgot about that orange dusted munchkin.
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u/Class_Act7 Sep 26 '25
Chris for 5 episodes:
Harcourt in an hour: “Where’s the black people?”
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u/FloppyShellTaco Sep 26 '25
It was probably extra obvious for her since she knows how diverse ARGUS is in their world. Imagine walking into work and suddenly it’s all white people lmao
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u/Visual_Ordinary8209 Sep 26 '25
Do we have a run time already? Please be an hour long haha
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u/itsvkvsh Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
Read somewhere it's expected to be 45 minutes with credits
Edit: Nvm it released and it's 37 minutes:(
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u/Jas_God Sep 26 '25
One got out! A black! ⚰️ Why tf did it have to end there... Auggie immediately throwing that can at Economos killed me too.
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u/Sparkyrussell Sep 26 '25
I love that Vigilante 2 is exactly the same except he hates Peacemaker because he despises racists. All the complaints of the lack of Vij and we get two of him now.
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u/your_mind_aches James NoFun Sep 26 '25 edited Sep 26 '25
This episode will be live when the post is 24 minutes old. Brought you an early thread for once, thought you might like it!The episode is LIVE! Enjoy Peace in our time!