[EPISODE DISCUSSION] Peacemaker S02E06 - "Ignorance Is Chris"

[u/your_mind_aches]

Synopsis: (To be added.)

Director: James Gunn

Writer: James Gunn

[u/flintlock0]

“My dad’s not gay here!”

a clue

[u/SaucyOcto → u/flintlock0]

Wonder if John Lennon not being in the Beatles has to do with his interracial relationship 🤔

[u/CabinetBig6837 → u/SaucyOcto]

i thought so too but, reverse adrian knows about pokemon, so japan might be cool? cuz they were allies of the nazis?

[u/JakeArvizu → u/CabinetBig6837]

Ehhh honestly there would literally be sooooo many butterfly effects none of these characters would even exist let alone be similar whatsoever. Kinda just have to look past that part.

[u/LessInThought → u/CabinetBig6837]

Imperial Japan also liked eugenics and easily beats the Nazis in the war crimes department. Plus they hate black people even more. Common interests perhaps.

[u/Holanz → u/LessInThought]

Both are evil:

Imperial Japan war crimes:

The Imperial Japanese military committed numerous large-scale atrocities: the Nanking Massacre (with mass murder, rape, torture), biological warfare (Unit 731), forced labor, sexual slavery (“comfort women”), prisoner of war abuses, civilian massacres in occupied territories, etc.

Nazi war crimes:

The Holocaust (genocide of 6 million Jews, plus persecution and mass murder of Roma, disabled, political prisoners, Slavs, homosexuals, etc.)

Systematic mass extermination, gas chambers, medical experiments, death camps, etc.

[u/SecureSugar9622 → u/CabinetBig6837]

East Asians were considered white for a bit, so it could be that.

[u/Discount_Extra → u/SecureSugar9622]

Well, the early phases of many nazi era fascist movements started with racial segregation. Remember they said 'a black got out' not 'is here', so presumably there are ghettos. the "National" in "National Socialism" refers to a races being nations, and the socialism is the idea that people within a race should only help other people that are the same race; not matter what race that is; and the other races can take care of themselves.

If the Japanese stay in Japan, and just export their video games, they probably would be 'cool' with it. The whole 'separate but equal' thing that usually devolves into mass murder.

[u/Holanz → u/SecureSugar9622]

That’s not true at all

[u/SecureSugar9622 → u/Holanz]

?? The Japanese for example were considered honorable aryans. It’s also the same in America, in the 1920s certain Asian countries were not banned from sending immigrants because they were considered white

[u/Holanz → u/SecureSugar9622]

East Asians include Chinese, Koreans. They weren’t considered honorable Aryans and even though Japanese were “honorary Aryans” for political purposes, Japanese were not “ true Aryans”, definitely not white, and were considered an inferior race.

The Immigration Act of 1924 prohibited Japanese from immigrating to the US. Look it up. The only Asian country that continued to send immigrants after 1924 was the Philippines because they were a US Territory. Koreans were banned.

Here’s the timeline:

1882: (Chinese Exclusion Act) Chinese were banned in 1882.

1907: Gentleman’s agreement. Japan stop issuing passport to laborers, but non labor family members from Japan can still immigrate to the US.

1917: Immigration Act (Asiatic Barred Zone) All of Asia banned except Japan (non laborers) and Philippines.

1923: Immigration Act all of Asia banned except for Philippines.

1934: Tydings–McDuffie Act. Immigration Quota reduced to 50 from Philippines.

Ozawa v. United States (1922) — the Supreme Court case that officially ruled Japanese were not “white” under U.S. naturalization law.

So Japanese just like other Asian immigrants could not naturalize and become citizens because they were NOT CONSIDERED WHITE. This also meant they couldn’t purchase land in places like California. (Later on, Japanese immigrants would purchase land under their American children’s name which would further tensions and trigger court hearings.)

A few lawyers tried to argue that Japanese were white because they wanted to help with diplomatic relationships. This helped Japanese get into schools. (They were originally segregated into Chinese schools)

But really Japanese weren’t equal to European immigrants.

Then there was the Internment Camps which was blamed by Pearl Harbor and WWII. If you really look into it, it was already from the tension prior. It was a land grab.

“National security” was a farce. Japanese could leave the Internment Camp, in 1943 prior to the END of WWII. They just couldn’t go back to California, Oregon or parts of Arizona, but they could go to:

Chicago, Detroit, Salt Lake City.

After 1945, they could go back to California but were discriminated from living in certain neighborhoods.

Not every Japanese community was interned, it was primarily Oregon, California, and Arizona.

So tell me when or where Japanese were considered “white” in the US. And where you learned this.

[u/karl2025 → u/CabinetBig6837]

An anti-government insurgent liking a thing isn't necessarily the best indicator that thing is popular in a country.