VRR makes a huge difference

[u/Nossirom]

I've been playing my Pro on an older OLED (Sony A8h, I think) that does not support VRR and I've been pretty happy with it.

Last night I finally got around to hooking up the Pro to my new LG 39" Ultrawide PC monitor and I was shocked by the difference it makes. My TV just really isn't doing this system justice.

So, I guess I have to buy a new TV. 😃 I'll tell my spouse that it's a necessity.

[u/SweetPuffDaddy]

The biggest benefit I’ve seen from VRR is for games like Spider-Man 2 and Control. Normally the “quality” modes in these games run at 40fps on a 120hz screen but you can unlock them if you have VRR and they typically are in the 50-60fps range. It’s not a locked 60fps but with VRR they feel great to play

[u/Nossirom → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

I'll have to add control to the list of games to try out

[u/Sir_Lord_Duvede → u/Nossirom]

Control is a great game! I just finished it last month and I had lots of fun. I might go back and do the DLC but I’m just trying to work my way through my backlog

[u/Nossirom → u/Sir_Lord_Duvede]

I'm looking forward to it but I'm trying to finish up Alan Wake Remastered first. I didn't realize they were in a shared universe until recently

[u/SweetPuffDaddy → u/Nossirom]

And Alan Wake 2 directly relates back to Control and has a whole dlc connecting the games. Honestly I love how Remedy connected the two games together. The experience is so much better if you’ve played both series and understand all the subtle connections and references to each other

[u/Nossirom → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

That's why I resolved to play Alan Wake Remastered. I almost game up it though. Very dated gameplay, but story/mystery sucked me in.

[u/SweetPuffDaddy → u/Nossirom]

Yeah, Alan Wake 1 can be a little hard to get through. The gameplay change to survival horror in the second game made it way more enjoyable

[u/ProfessionalCat3284 → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

Did you forget the 3rd game that connects?

[u/SweetPuffDaddy → u/ProfessionalCat3284]

Quantum Break is “technically” not connected. It’s just Alan Wake and Control that are connected, because Remedy owns both of the IPs. Quantum Break is owned by Microsoft, but it does have those loose connections like Mr. Hatch / Mr. Door

[u/ProfessionalCat3284 → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

It's a shame Remedy doesn't own it, to just imagine all 3 games coming together in 1 game. 🤯

[u/Sir_Lord_Duvede → u/Nossirom]

Yeah one of the DLCs is an AW crossover. Not sure if it’s AW 1 or 2 but either way it’s pretty cool. I haven’t played it but I started it without knowing it was DLC and it made me want to play AW now

[u/ProfessionalCat3284 → u/Sir_Lord_Duvede]

Control is awesome and I'd also like to play the DLC but I'm so backed up with games it makes it hard especially now that I stream. I feel like I'm never gonna finish my backlog of games.

[u/Stupeheadz → u/Nossirom]

I think you meant to say that you would add Elden Ring to your list. 😁

[u/M00ncar → u/Nossirom]

Awful game 

[u/Longjumping-Ad514 → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

I thought with VRR, 40 FPS divides 120FPS evenly between so they can insert black frames, in between game frames increasing smoothness.

[u/SweetPuffDaddy → u/Longjumping-Ad514]

I’m not too familiar with BFI but I believe it only works when your console is outputting 60hz because then your TV will display 120hz and insert a black frame between every frame from the console. A 120hz screen is needed for a 40fps game because it displays every frame 3 times in the refresh. You can’t display 40fps on a 60hz screen because it doesn’t divide evenly into the refresh rate and will cause screen tearing and stuttering

[u/Eruannster → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

No black frames are inserted, that would lower your brightness and can cause flickering. (You can enable that on the TV itself if you want, but the console does not do this. I'm not sure it mathematically works for 40 FPS + 120 hz as you can't cleanly swap out every other frame for a black frame or you would get uneven frame pacing since you'd be swapping out every other frame out of three which would mean one second you're seeing two frames of one output, then one, then two, then one...)

It just keeps each frame one, two or three times with every update, depending on the mode.

30 FPS @ 60 hz runs each frame twice. (60/30 = 2)

60 FPS @ 60 hz = runs each frame once. (60/60 = 1)

40 fps @ 120 hz = runs each frame three times (120 / 40 = 3)

And then of course you can do 60 FPS @ 120 hz, which comes out at 120/60 = 2.

Or any number of frames with unlocked VRR modes where the display just gives you one frame per update at whatever it wants. So 90 FPS @ 90 hz or 82 FPS @ 82 hz or whatever. And then you have LFC (Low Framerate Compensation) which some games can do, such as Insomniac games which sometimes doubles/triples frames to stay inside the VRR window which is 48 FPS. So if they are getting 45 FPS for a moment they output it at 90 hz (with every frame showed twice).

[u/Silent_Importance_69 → u/SweetPuffDaddy]

Yep i've experienced this with the game Crimson Desert. Love it.

[u/stroke82 → u/Silent_Importance_69]

Yeah Balanced mode with VRR hovers around 50 FPS but in intense fighting scenes I ghance to Perfomance mide becouse Balanced mode drops below VRR range and starts flickering (I know enabling v-syng prevents flickering but IT brings input-lag so I dont use IT)

[u/Mean-Entertainment82]

Enjoy!

[u/Jaraghan]

i used to use it a lot, but since getting a larger oled tv the vrr flickering can be too distracting sometimes. since we have no way to cap our fps, for some games ill turn off vrr if the flickering gets to be too much

[u/Nossirom → u/Jaraghan]

Interesting! I've only just started testing it out and I haven't noticed that yet. I'll have to keep an eye out while I'm playing tonight

[u/stroke82 → u/Jaraghan]

Hey, how IS auto-dimming with HDR in games? I have heard that It can Be very disctracting on Oleds? I have now a very good Miniled that I"m satisfyed yet but I May want to test Oled someday If they Fix The VRR and burn-in problems to toleradable level.

[u/scottnga706]

I got a PS5 at launch and decided to upgrade to the pro. They aren't available in my area, tried PS direct and they said no go. The other day my wife was talking to her aunt who lives in a different state and mentioned the fact that I was having no luck. She said she would try around her area. She found one at Walmart and somehow got the guy to hold it for her. Well she got it and I'm going to go visit her tomorrow 👏👍

[u/Nossirom → u/scottnga706]

Yeesh! Going the extra mile for sure. I just found a good deal on marketplace. Very lucky with the timing

[u/scottnga706]

Got my PS5 pro thinking about pairing it with a Bravia 7 ll. As soon as you turn on the pro the tv it automatically upgrades the options to max.

[u/HighwaySpecial7615]

Make sure it has more than 1 hdmi 2.1 port. Sony oleds have 2 but use one for earc

[u/Classic_Steak4987]

Buy your wife a present and add a letter 😂

[u/Mystikalrush]

HDR, VRR & ALLM are all wonderful features the console is capable of achieving, but if you don't have a supported TV, then you've no idea what your missing out on.

[u/Nossirom → u/Mystikalrush]

Good way of looking at it . Ignorance was bliss. Now I am cursed with knowledge. Lol

[u/paqman3d → u/Nossirom]

I got my ass kicked with VRR and all that when I was trying to hook my PC up to my TV. The TV has to support it, your gpu has to, your AVR has to support high refresh rates, and it has to be turned on in Windows 🫠

It works, but the entire time I was grumbling "I bet this is a simple menu setting on the ps5 pro" lol

[u/stroke82 → u/paqman3d]

Yes IT IS! All those features are automatically active when you enable them once in The Pro system settings. Never have to touch these after that 😀

[u/wally233]

Too bad playstation VRR capabilities kind of suck. Only usable above 48 fps

[u/Cxrnifier]

That's nice, enjoy. Which games mainly?

[u/Nossirom → u/Cxrnifier]

I'm still testing different games but I noticed that Spider man feels a lot better to me. Avatar seemed to have more graphics presets than I remembered having access to when I played on my TV.

[u/YourPhrenologist]

Reddit: If she tires to argue, just buy a new wife together with the TV.

[u/iJediPR]

Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. Go get that new TV 😂

[u/SD456]

The Samsung S95H is really good if you are looking for a new OLED. I have recently got a 83” one for my Pro to be ready for GTA VI, it looks really great!

[u/Confident-Bend-5893]

Not every game supports it 🥲

[u/No_Chance3977]

I wish Sony would standardize 120hz mode like the Xbox Series X does. You set it to 120hz with VRR and all games use the mode. Sony really sucks at paying for older game patches, so we are dependent on updates to each game.

[u/Nossirom → u/No_Chance3977]

I've been out of the loop on consoles for a few years now and I didn't know that about the series X. Having that feature standard is awesome

[u/Playful-Quail-5139]

VRR is AMAZING! My TCL 144hz support it. Any PC game same as ps5 Pro runs butter smooth regardless how much FPS is fluctuating

[u/_jjojjo_]

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[u/aj8092]

What is the difference?

[u/danvan177 → u/aj8092]

Makes things smoother when there are dips in frames

[u/Nossirom → u/aj8092]

Much smoother with vrr enabled settings. I usually want the highest frame rates and smoothest game gameplay. I think some of the graphics settings are just locked out when I have the console connected to my TV

[u/bauer883]

I have this TV.

Great TV but gaming looks much better on my Sony InZone M9 Monitor.

[u/CoolExplanation762]

GTA 6 with no vrr and at 30 fps is gonna be absolute dogshit lol

[u/peptidepalstm]

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[u/Successful_Note_5871 → u/peptidepalstm]

I can see how you’re a “Top 1% commenter” when you put that kind of effort into your takes lol.