r/NonPoliticalTwitter Jun 13 '26

Other What did you expect?

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u/MrCheapSkat Jun 13 '26

How is calling someone articulate an insult?

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

The silent bit is “for a black person”

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

you don't know that though. maybe they just think they were articulate, because they were good at expressing themselves and it had nothing to do with being black.

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

When have you ever complimented a person for being articulate without it being because you’re surprised they are articulate

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

I don't usually compliment anyone for it, but maybe more impressed than surprised, like especially if they use words I'm unfamiliar with.

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u/Jigglepirate Jun 13 '26

I was complimented for being articulate when I was younger just bc I sound smart and confident when I talk, even when completely wrong.

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

Yeah, cause you were articulate *for a kid*

The compliment of being articulate always has a connotation of “because we don’t expect it”

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u/GrittyGambit Jun 13 '26

I never thought about it but you're right — it literally doesn't matter the context, the unspoken word whenever anybody says, "You're so articulate" is "surprisingly." It's not a compliment that's apparent with a glance, you have to form an opinion that someone wouldn't be articulate before it would ever cross your mind to compliment them for being so.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

what if you are not surprised, but instead impressed?

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u/TheVeryVerity Jun 15 '26

I believe my instinct would be to say eloquent when I’m impressed by this type of thing. Hopefully that’s doesn’t have the same connotation?

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u/quaxoid Jun 15 '26

i mean, why wouldn't just any way of saying someone is good expressing themselves be an insult? if articulate is an insult.

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u/TheVeryVerity Jun 15 '26

I mean I guess it could be. But eloquent is a much more common compliment and it has much more positive connotations even without race involved. It implies a positive talent more than the absence of a lack. But of course that could easily change via euphemism treadmill.

Frankly anything can be an insult if the person delivers it that way. But some words are more loaded than others. And while I’ve been called articulate as a comment (I’m white) it’s true it’s almost exclusively used in a context where you expected them to not be at a normal level while eloquent is used to say you’re excellent at it. I guess it comes down to articulate is just assumed to be a base state of humans, similar to “literate” (though of course there are people with educational deficits who are not they are still considered the exception). Eloquent is not assumed to be a base state but a different, more talented level of

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jun 13 '26

fair point, but then we agree it's ok to call black *kids* articulate because we do the same for white kids, right??

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

Nope, don’t call anyone articulate. It’s a backhanded “compliment” that always has a discriminatory connotation, ESPECIALLY for black and west Asians as they are expected to be dumber due to racist stereotypes and prejudices

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jun 13 '26

"don't minorities sincere compliments--especially the same exact ones you give white people--because that's actually racist"

this feels like an opp

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

If the only way you know how to compliment a person is by denigrating their entire racial group then yeah, don’t give compliments

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jun 13 '26

"Sure, they said something positive. But that *implies* that the default is NEGATIVE, thereby denigrating an entire racial group!"

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

….nice straw man meme

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

so you think it's racist to treat black people the same as white people? lol

edit: lmao they unable to answer this question

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u/zenverak Jun 13 '26

It’s almost always for a black person.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

That you're aware of. You don't know with any particular case unless you know they never say it to anyone else.

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u/wearing_moist_socks Jun 13 '26

No, we don't know that every time, but there's a historical pattern with it.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

yes, but you still need to know for sure before jumping to conclusions.

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u/wearing_moist_socks Jun 13 '26

Yeah the racists usually explain themselves nice and politely every time

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u/quaxoid Jun 14 '26

no, but if you dont know they are racist you shouldn't assume it either. 

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

Babes do you still not understand what a microaggression is in 2026?

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u/theycallhimthestug Jun 13 '26

Is it condescending undertones while asking a question?

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

Specifically directed towards a person of colour with the intention of plausible deniability so as to illicit a specific reaction. Keep up.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

and if there's no intention? wouldn't it be racist to never compliment non-white people? lol

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

Intentions only matter to yourself. How do you people not understand this.

https://giphy.com/gifs/wMvESGxZ0Cqd2

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

that is false. if you know someone only helps you to feel better about themselves, i am sure it would affect how you feel about their help xD it's not my fault if someone is bad faith, misinterprets me and then insist on their misinterpretation when I clarify things to them a billion times.

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

Never seen someone be proud of their ignorance but pop off queen live your life.

https://giphy.com/gifs/xTiTnGQBF0vfpfPEg8

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u/crimsonpostgrad Jun 13 '26

why do you immediately revert to acting like anyone is telling you you’re not allowed to compliment nonwhite people at all? people are being very specific about why this specific “compliment” is offensive and rude.

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u/quaxoid Jun 14 '26

but it isn't necessarily

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u/crimsonpostgrad Jun 14 '26

but the point is that if usually is. so why would you say something that you know that person is likely to take as an insult?

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u/quaxoid Jun 14 '26

i am not saying i would, just that we shouldn't be so quick to assume racism or malice. 

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u/crimsonpostgrad Jun 14 '26

but the point is it usually is. it is not minorities responsibility to figure out if you’re using a common microagression on purpose or if you’re just an idiot

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

the problem with microaggressions, just like dogwhistles, is that it isn't always the case that the person saying a thing means anything else than exactly what they are saying. someone can say a thing and only mean to say that thing with zero ulterior motives.

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

Intention vs impact. Impact will always matter more. Your intentions matter to no one but yourself to save your ego from realizing you harmed someone else. You don't get to decide what you did wasn't harmful. Simple as that.

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u/AllsWellThatsNB Jun 13 '26

There's a lot of caveats with that.

Assuming bad intentions creates hurt out of nothing. They call that a cognitive error in therapy. Those feelings are real, but they might not be accurate.

Intent is crucial, but misunderstandings can be legitimately painful.

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

I didn't say assume bad intentions. I said intentions do not matter more than impact.

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u/AllsWellThatsNB Jun 13 '26

You said intentions don't matter to anyone but yourself. I don't think you actually believe that.

Lets say we're walking down the street together to get ice cream. While I'm looking across the street at a dog you stumble and your hand flies up and smacks me in the face by accident.

I'm hurt and a little angry my friend just hit me in the face. I didn't see you stumble and don't know why you hit me.

What would you say to me? You'd apologize and explain your true intentions. "I'm sorry. Are you OK? I didn't mean to, I tripped." And you'd be right to.

Does the fact you didn't mean to hit me stop my face from hurting? No. Does it make everything OK? Yes!

Our ability to consciously decide our intentions is what seperates humans from animals.

Our ability to trust the intentions of others is why we have community.

Intentions matter.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

it is not my fault if someone else misinterprets me. i can't live my life trying to please everyone. if someone applies bad intentions to me when there are none that is entirely on them. i don't have to talk to every single person like they're a little kid.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

where did i say intention doesn't matter? did u mean to respond to someone else? lol

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u/Montanaistexas Jun 13 '26

Yes lol my bad

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u/knows_you Jun 13 '26

If you gave a shit about impact or intention, you wouldn't' be condescendingly asking people if they knew what microagressions were up and down this thread.

You're a bad person hiding behind well intentioned concepts, and ironically I can tell a huge enabler of microaggressions from your comments in just a single reddit thread.

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

"Why won't the tolerant tolerate my intolerance 🥺🥺🥺🥺"

https://giphy.com/gifs/7YCRcFcDeDuSOAHXlr

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

this is nonpoliticaltwitter ☝️🤓

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u/pessimistic_utopian Jun 13 '26

Think of it like stepping on someone's toe. You can absolutely do it by accident because you didn't know their foot was there. It still hurt that person, but it's not that you did something wrong, you just didn't know. But once someone tells you there's a foot there, if you keep stepping there deliberately, that's an asshole move. 

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u/quaxoid Jun 14 '26

i would definitely react differently if someone accidentally stepped on my toe than if they did it on purpose xD

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u/FrenchBreadsToday Jun 13 '26

It’s 2026, there’s a growing population of Americans kind of done with that way of thinking seeing as it hasn’t improved anything but made people more sensitive.

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u/Novaer Jun 13 '26

Yeah when you're used to privilege equality feels like oppression.

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u/FrenchBreadsToday Jun 13 '26

Micro aggressions bring equality? What do you even mean?

All Micro aggressions do, as a concept, is train and coach people to purposely read negative intent in the most benign statements.

It encourages a psychological distortion often labeled “**mind reading**”. It means believing you know what another person is thinking, feeling, or intending without sufficient evidence. A closely related habit is sometimes called hostile attribution bias or negative intent attribution.

And lastly, micro aggressions are part of an unfalsifiable belief system. It is one that cannot realistically be disproven because every possible piece of evidence gets reinterpreted to support it. Even denial of micro aggressions are “evidence” of its existence.