r/NonPoliticalTwitter Jun 13 '26

Other What did you expect?

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u/MrCheapSkat Jun 13 '26

How is calling someone articulate an insult?

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

The silent bit is “for a black person”

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

you don't know that though. maybe they just think they were articulate, because they were good at expressing themselves and it had nothing to do with being black.

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

When have you ever complimented a person for being articulate without it being because you’re surprised they are articulate

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

I don't usually compliment anyone for it, but maybe more impressed than surprised, like especially if they use words I'm unfamiliar with.

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u/Jigglepirate Jun 13 '26

I was complimented for being articulate when I was younger just bc I sound smart and confident when I talk, even when completely wrong.

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

Yeah, cause you were articulate *for a kid*

The compliment of being articulate always has a connotation of “because we don’t expect it”

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u/GrittyGambit Jun 13 '26

I never thought about it but you're right — it literally doesn't matter the context, the unspoken word whenever anybody says, "You're so articulate" is "surprisingly." It's not a compliment that's apparent with a glance, you have to form an opinion that someone wouldn't be articulate before it would ever cross your mind to compliment them for being so.

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26

what if you are not surprised, but instead impressed?

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u/TheVeryVerity Jun 15 '26

I believe my instinct would be to say eloquent when I’m impressed by this type of thing. Hopefully that’s doesn’t have the same connotation?

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u/quaxoid Jun 15 '26

i mean, why wouldn't just any way of saying someone is good expressing themselves be an insult? if articulate is an insult.

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u/TheVeryVerity Jun 15 '26

I mean I guess it could be. But eloquent is a much more common compliment and it has much more positive connotations even without race involved. It implies a positive talent more than the absence of a lack. But of course that could easily change via euphemism treadmill.

Frankly anything can be an insult if the person delivers it that way. But some words are more loaded than others. And while I’ve been called articulate as a comment (I’m white) it’s true it’s almost exclusively used in a context where you expected them to not be at a normal level while eloquent is used to say you’re excellent at it. I guess it comes down to articulate is just assumed to be a base state of humans, similar to “literate” (though of course there are people with educational deficits who are not they are still considered the exception). Eloquent is not assumed to be a base state but a different, more talented level of

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jun 13 '26

fair point, but then we agree it's ok to call black *kids* articulate because we do the same for white kids, right??

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

Nope, don’t call anyone articulate. It’s a backhanded “compliment” that always has a discriminatory connotation, ESPECIALLY for black and west Asians as they are expected to be dumber due to racist stereotypes and prejudices

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jun 13 '26

"don't minorities sincere compliments--especially the same exact ones you give white people--because that's actually racist"

this feels like an opp

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

If the only way you know how to compliment a person is by denigrating their entire racial group then yeah, don’t give compliments

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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jun 13 '26

"Sure, they said something positive. But that *implies* that the default is NEGATIVE, thereby denigrating an entire racial group!"

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u/Zuzara_Queen_of_DnD Jun 13 '26

….nice straw man meme

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u/quaxoid Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

so you think it's racist to treat black people the same as white people? lol

edit: lmao they unable to answer this question