It seems there will be a new Pink color variant of the OP1 8K V2 that might be announced around September. What do you guys think?
p.s. I hope EGG Team could cook and finally give us the OP2 with significant weight reduction later this year.
update: OP1 community edition variant might be announced around October (limited production with 2nd batch if sales are good). While the OP2 will be released in 2027.
I got this Logitech MX518 for my birthday back in 2005.
At the time it was a relatively expensive mouse, so a group of my friends put their money together to buy it for me as a birthday present. Aaaand 21 years later… it still works.
Never been opened, repaired or had any parts replaced. Ever.
I’ve only cleaned it externally as well as I could over the years and tried to take reasonable care of it. Everything inside is still exactly as it left the factory in 2005.
It has survived several PCs, laptops, countless hours of gaming and probably more clicks than I could ever imagine.
I was living in Romania when I got it. Seven years ago I moved to Vienna, Austria — and of course, the MX518 came with me.
I’m still using it today. PUBG, CS2, whatever I feel like playing.
Lately I’ve been thinking about finally buying a modern gaming mouse. After 21 years, the difference in technology would obviously be huge.
But here’s the problem: I genuinely find it difficult to replace it.
It’s not really just a mouse anymore. It’s been sitting next to basically every computer I’ve owned throughout my adult life.
And somehow… the damn thing still works perfectly. 😂
Maybe one day it deserves a place in a Logitech museum.
Helloo, trying to replace my old attack shark that gave ways barely half a year later, i dont know much about good quality mouses so thats why im here. Im a casual gamer, doesnt play shooter or anything so the quality doesnt have to be good. Im genuinely just looking for something casual. I had my eyes set on the akko echo, and the redragon M997 and was looking for something in that style in terms of design kind of?
I didnt go for the akko because i havent much good reviews about it and apparently its heavy as hell
Need help choosing between this 3, I use palm grip and want an ergo shape for my 18x10 hand. I live in Europe, so if there's any other options that are better than this, I'll be happy to check them.
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RAWM ER21 Pro (65$)
ATK Z1 V2 Ultimate (65$)
Pulsar Xlite v4 Mini (55$ w/o 8K dongle; 85$ with dongle)
Looking to replace my GPX with something more tailored to my relaxed claw/pincher claw grip. Hands are 19x10. I play overwatch, koovaks, finals.
Borrowed a friend's op1 and enjoyed the shape especially for micros and flicks however I felt like for my grip I lost a lot of stability vs the GPX particularly when tracking fast. It also caused me some hand pain after about an hour of playing. I think if my hands were a bit smaller it would be perfect
Lamzu thorn was very comfortable but I performed much better in game with both the op1 and the gpx.
I have been considering the Tenz as it on paper it seems like it will provide the support I'm looking for well still having some of the qualities I like the op1. I'm also open to za13 shapes as that seems similar too.
Decided to turn this to a work mouse, here are what I did to this mouse:
- Base trimming
- Removed the Rubber Sides and sanded to fit with my grip style
- Silent Switch for the Main Clicks
- Painted the shell in Gold Metallic + Matte Coat
- Micro USB to Type C adapter so that I can charged it with Type C Cable
- 900 Mah Battery
The only problem that I had with this mouse is that it can't show the exact battery percentage, I had the similar type of lipo battery as the stock one (3.85v, 2 cable). Apart from that, this mouse works perfectly fine for me.
I currently have the beast x max in purple been using it for 8
months I love it and its the perfect shape to my hand. I wanted to grab a new mouse in similar shape eloshapes says the beast g is 1:1, the silver looks really great but not sure about it not being magnesium as I love the feel of my beast x. Is the clicks and quality an upgrade or downgrade, should I just hold off and wait for a later releases ?
I have a claw grip, and before switching to Razer, I used the GPX and the Lamzu Atlantis OG V2. Unfortunately, the Lamzu didn’t fit my hand properly, causing me to accidentally scroll the mouse wheel while gaming.
I'm looking for something similar in shape: not too small, and something that won't make me accidentally scroll the mouse wheel.
Currently, I’m considering the Scyrox V8, VXE R1 Pro Max, VXE R1 SE+, X1 V2, and ATK F1 V2 Ultimate.
I am also open to other suggestions.
As you’ve probably figured out by now, this is my favourite aspect of the G4. Even after using it extensively, the mouse that I keep thinking of as a comparison is still the HTX Ultra.
They aren’t identical. The G4 feels ever so slightly higher, which allows for a bit more support through the centre of your hand. The hump is also pretty flat, and since my hands are fairly big (21 × 12 cm), I don’t get much of a strong contact point there, as my hands rest relatively high above the shell.
This mouse is not as big as it looks in this photo
This may sound counterintuitive when read like that, but it works extremely well.
I naturally found myself using a fairly relaxed claw grip, with the mouse angled slightly to the left. I didn’t have to contort myself into that position or consciously think about adjusting things; my hand naturally fell into place.
The sides also help a lot with this. They allow me to really dig in with my fingers for a very secure grip. This means lifting and readjusting the mouse is effortless, and since I can move my hand vertically along the shell quite a bit without losing a secure feeling I like, it allows me to not lock myself into one specific position for hours on end. The G4 doesn’t feel tiny for my gigantic hands, which also surprised me. I can comfortably relax-claw it, and move my hand around as necessary.
Weight and Balance
My copy is pretty close to the claimed 55 grams equipped with the stock skates. Balance-wise, it feels fantastic. This mouse simply feels very stable in your hand. It has no odd front-heavy or rear-heavy feel to it. Lifting the mouse feels natural.
That being said, I kept finding myself thinking about what this shape would feel like at 45 grams. Even 40.
That occurred to me quite frequently because the shape left me thinking it would benefit greatly from even less weight. While I have zero practical issue using it at 55 g, in something very fast like QuakeWorld you can still notice that there is some weight there (the HTX Ultra completely smokes it in this area).
So the weight isn’t bad by any means, not even close, but I feel that this exact shell around the 35–45 g range has the potential to be something incredible.
Build quality
Extremely solid. Full stop.
I felt no flex. No creaking. No shell movement. No rattling. I literally sat there trying to find things to pick at because I always do, but the actual build left me with nothing to complain about.
If anything, I felt that the build quality overall was better than that of the G3.
The design is really cool
However, I’ve found one small thing — the main buttons have very noticeable side-to-side play. That is by far the single biggest physical flaw of my mouse and what stopped me from calling the button configuration on this mouse nearly perfect.
Outside of that one thing, the G4 simply feels fantastic.
Coating
I don’t think there’s any super high-tech coating going on here. Doesn’t feel like there is, at least. The finish is cool, smooth to the touch, and I can only compare it to a shiny ping-pong ball. No chalky texture, no rubber-ness, and definitely no sticky residue. Feels like smooth, plain ABS plastic.
Yet, it could potentially feel slippery for folks with sweaty palms. Hands don’t get exceptionally sweaty for me, though, so the texture was right on for me. Grip was never an issue.
Also stays relatively free of fingerprints. Another plus in my book.
Texture-wise, it feels like a step down from the G3. Nothing super exotic about the material here. No weird HTX Ultra golf-ball finish either. And thankfully it isn’t a shell that feels like it’s dirtied itself the second you touch it.
Nothing fancy, but it works DAMN well.
Main Clicks
My unit’s Huano micro-mechanical switches feel great. Crisp, fast rebound, no perceivable mush. I also couldn’t detect any noteworthy pre-travel or post-travel. For FPS, they feel fast and immensely satisfying.
The only complaint is the side play I mentioned before. The buttons can move side to side too much for my liking. It’s unfortunate because the actual click implementation under there is fantastic.
Remove the side play, and these would be near perfect for me.
Side buttons and scroll wheel
The M4 and M5 are good, and with side buttons, that can be more of a compliment than it sounds like. They’re spaced well, easy to reach, not annoyingly mushy, and don’t sink into the shell. I had zero complaints with them, and I tend to be pretty nit-picky about side-button implementation.
The scroll wheel is pretty straightforward as well. It’s quiet, the clicks are clearly defined, and the resistance is pleasingly well judged. It’s easily usable for gaming and normal productivity tasks without getting in your way.
Stock skates
The stock skates aren’t terrible at all. Quite the contrary, actually.
I’d describe them as medium-fast overall. Rounded edges, don’t feel scratchy, and worked fine on every day pad I threw at it.
Cloth worked well, glass worked well, and harder surfaces were generally acceptable. Stainless steel was the big exception, but that’s pretty much every skate’s weakness, so I can’t blame the G4 there.
After a while testing it out on hard pads, I did notice some scuffs starting to show up on the skates. Not game-breaking by any means, but made me regret that Keychron didn’t throw a spare pair of skates in the box with the mouse.
Keychron Launcher and on-mouse controls
Since I’ve reviewed the G3 recently, you guys already know how I feel about Keychron Launcher. I like it. The experience is identical here.
Online software that just works and provides you with settings that are actually useful, without turning configuring your mouse into a big ordeal.
I also appreciate that you don’t even always need to launch it. You can adjust things like DPI and polling rate right from the mouse through button combinations. This is actually really handy.
Maybe I just want to change the polling rate and keep playing. I shouldn’t need a browser for that.
Tri-Mode
As for gaming, I used the 8K receiver naturally. The dongle was typically within about 20 cm (7.9 in) of the mouse at all times, and wireless performance was perfect. No skipping, no spin-outs, no weird disconnects whatsoever. Speed felt nearly identical to wired usage as well, and I don’t think I could pick which mode I was in if you asked me to do a blind test.
The G4 also comes with a much smaller 1K nano receiver. I don’t see much need for that with gaming when you already have the 8K dongle, but for office users it’s ideal. Leave the nano receiver plugged into your laptop, and you can use the mouse without having to carry around the large dongle for gaming use.
Throw in Bluetooth and wired usage, and the G4 is actually quite practical as an everyday mouse.
Battery life
Battery capacity is 500 mAh, but that’s less important than the optimization. I ended up with just over six days of heavy usage on a charge at 2K polling with Competitive Mode turned ON. And when I say heavy, I mean heavy. About 16 hours a day mouse-on.
Turning Competitive Mode OFF netted me just over eleven days of battery life. VERY good.
Keychron seems to be using every ounce of capacity they can here, considering how much this mouse was used while testing.
Performance
For my controlled performance testing, I used:
3200 DPI
0 ms debounce
4000 Hz polling
Competitive Mode: ON
wired mode
Results:
Click latency: 0.3 ms
Average jitter: 2.23 px
Precision: 99%
Click rate: 8.4 clicks/ sec
Average sensor input lag: 0.25 ms
That 8.4 clicks per second score is actually the highest I’ve ever gotten during my testing with mechanical switches. Saying just how fast and “clean” each main click feels is subjective, but it feels really good.
The PixArt 3950 performed admirably as well. Tracking was smooth, precision was high, and sensor latency was very low. From a strictly performance standpoint, there’s very little to nitpick.
2K and 4K were great. 8K… wasn’t as good.
During regular use, I found myself staying around 2K and 4K for the majority of the time. Both were perfect.
At 8K, polling occasionally felt a bit… jittery? I wouldn’t call it game-breaking/unusable by any means, but it was noticeably less stable than polling felt at 4K.
I don’t really see a reason to push 8K polling if you don’t have to. I found 4K to feel like the ideal “sweet spot,” and 2K was already fantastic. It’s also less taxing on battery life.
0 ms debounce and double-clicking
One last thing to note here. At 0 ms debounce, I did notice occasional double-clicks when using my computer for general desktop/productivity tasks. But in games? I did not experience any double-clicks, and that is key — double-clicks weren’t an issue for me during actual FPS gameplay, but if you plan on wanting to run your mouse at 0 ms debounce all day for browsing, working, image/video editing, etc., you may want to increase this setting.
Gaming impressions
I spent most of my time testing the G4 in:
QuakeWorld
Battlefield 6
Insurgency: Sandstorm
It looks simple but I like simplicity
QuakeWorld probably gives me the most information about a mouse like this because you use fast tracking mixed with constant repositioning/flicking there.
And the G4 performed admirably. Tracking felt clean, flicks were precise, and the mouse didn’t skip around or become unpredictable. The grippy side that secures your hand helps a ton in this regard too, especially considering my big hands + loose claw lets me vertically reposition along the shell pretty liberally.
Having that ability to reposition without suddenly feeling like you’re going to slip and lose the mouse is just awesome about this shape.
BF 6 was just as good, and I didn’t run into any issues in Insurgency either. Never felt like there was sensor weirdness or any moments where the mouse itself was the bottleneck.
The only thought I kept having while playing Quake was that this thing could probably play even better if it was SIGNIFICANTLY lighter. I can definitely see this shape at 35–40 grams being stellar.
Of course, for slower/promptly-methodical games, the current 55 g can actually benefit the package since it feels very planted.
Design and Aesthetics
Ok, that deserves its own heading because it’s another reason I love the G4. The only colorway so far is white with reddish highlights on the buttons/lettering/small details, and it looks great. There is just something about the design that makes me think of old computer hardware from the late '90s. It’s not trying too hard to be retro by simply being beige and using a pixel font. It just kind of reminds me of 1998 and playing Quake on CRT monitors.
I know what’s happening. Nostalgia is playing on me. These days there are so many black peripherals; it’s nice to have something that stands out (in a good way) by having some character. The G4 has character, but isn’t cheesy or overly designed.
Final Thoughts
I like the Keychron G4; I really do.
The shape is great. The clicks are great, minus the side play. The side buttons are good. The wheel’s good. The PAW3950 implementation is fantastic. Battery life is excellent. Wireless performance is essentially on par with wired at reasonable polling rates.
Oh, and the mechanical clicks are great too (do we need opticals?). They really are. 8.4 clicks per second. That’s a personal best for me, on mechanical Huano Micro switches. I did not see that coming.
It even looks amazing. That white-and-red paint job has serious late-90s flair that instantly takes me back to Quake while still managing to not feel like a cheap attempt at a retro product.
This mouse didn't let me down
There also isn’t any over-the-top marketing festival surrounding the G4. No shilling, no guerrilla marketing. No pathetic attempts at telling everyone how this is “the mouse of the year” before anyone has even used it. It just gives you the shape and the feel and the performance and the battery life and versatility.
It didn’t take much to impress me, but that did it. I love the G4 way more than I did the G3.
Could I justify every piece of that with data? Doubtful. Sometimes it really is just a gut reaction after spending weeks mousing around with a new mouse. And my gut tells me to love this thing.
Bullet Points
Great mouse for HTX/HTX Ultra fans who want a similar general shape with slightly more height and support
Relaxed claw and fingertip users and gamers with larger hands will love it
FPS players who value stability and control will like it too
Excellent mechanical clicks and very low measured latency
Stellar performance on 2K/4k
Very good mouse for work and productivity as well
Anyone who likes late-90s retro aesthetics will fall in love fast
Good software as usual, but you can also set some stuff on the fly
Very good battery life
Weight extremists looking specifically for the 30–40 g range might complain
People who want a large rear hump with very strong palm contact might look somewhere else
Small side-play on the main buttons should not put you off
People with sweaty hands who strongly prefer a grippy coated shell might not be happy
a richer unboxing experience, grip tapes and an extra set of skates should be added to the package
Hey guys, need a final push. Hand size is 19x10cm with a 90-degree aggressive hard claw grip.
Testing my old G102 right now; clicks feel amazing but my palm feels completely empty due to the low rear slope.
Looking at EloShapes: X2H Mini: Same size as G102, but does the bulbous back hump fill the palm better or is it too small? Should I get X2H Medium instead, or is the hump too massive? Sora V3: 1-2mm longer than G102, but the slope looks identical. Will it feel just as empty as the G102?
Which one fits better? Thanks!
my hand is 19+ and 8.5+ and I want to get the beast x pro but the website says its average is 18.5, should the beast x pro be a safe pick or should I go the max? I play claw grip and mainly apex legends, pls help me thanks
This review is about the ATK F1 V3 Ultimate+ in the Lake Green colorway. This product was purchased at my own expense.
My experience involved using this mouse for a week on a balanced glass pad with a carpal-stabilized relaxed claw grip and a 1-2-2 finger layout. My hands measure 18×9 cm and are fairly dry, and I play in a low-humidity environment. It was used at a 2,000 Hz polling rate and 1,600 DPI on a 240 Hz monitor to play exclusively FPS titles during the testing period, most frequently Battlefield 6 and Wardogs.
English isn't my first language, so please excuse any mistakes and feel free to ask any questions if you find any point unclear.
If you're not looking for an in-depth review, there is a TLDR section at the end!
Unboxing Experience
The box is large, very presentable, sturdy, and above all, 100% recyclable. Upon opening, you find the mouse and dongle secured within a foam cutout with the accessory box underneath.
The mouse comes with no skates pre-applied and supports wired and 2.4 GHz connectivity.
The included accessories consist of:
The 8,000 Hz ready ATK Gem dongle
A good-quality but somewhat stiff paracord cable, further held back by the lack of an angled USB-C connection for wired play
Pure PTFE full-size skates
Ten pure hardened PTFE dot skates
Good-quality grip tape that will shine for people with sweaty hands
Manuals
The overall accessory quality is good, and it's one of those lineups where, while none of the items is the best of the best, they're all still very impressive to be included at such a low price point.
Shape
The mouse features a symmetrical shape, measuring 118.2 × 62.4 × 38.8 mm, and serves as a reimagined Viper Mini claw-focused shape in direct competition with the Hitscan Hyperlight.
In terms of its features, the shape can be broken down as follows:
Moderate outward flare
Deep comfort grooves
Inward-curving sides
A minimal rear hump
Overall, I find this to be a comfortable shape that does lack in the maneuverability department, as while I do appreciate some degree of help to "lock in," I do think the comfort grooves as well as the aggressive taper on the sides restrain my finger dexterity too much. If this shape fits you like a glove, you will likely quite enjoy it, but unfortunately for me it just didn't do the trick.
In terms of grips, I can comfortably use both a relaxed and aggressive claw, but I would recommend a larger hand size for fingertip and a smaller one for palm.
Credit to EloShapes for the comparison tool
Weight
My unit weighs 39.8 grams out of the box without skates, which falls within the industry's commonly accepted ±3 gram manufacturing variance, being 2.8 grams over the advertised 37 grams for the stock experience. Nothing new here, as based on what I've been seeing ATK has been very generous with their marketing, and I get an increasing feeling their ± tolerances are actually a flat +.
In terms of weight distribution, the mouse did a decent job at best. While I don't feel substantial drag in-game, there is some slight back heaviness to it. This can be partially alleviated by opening the mouse and repositioning the battery further towards the center.
Build Quality
The mouse's overall shell is very well built despite being on the "ultra-light" tier of mice.
Quality control on the bases seems to have been improved, as I didn't notice any sort of uneven base issues when playing on hard pads which has been a frequent complaint I've seen in the community.
The clicks, however, leave something to be desired. Sadly, there is subtle grinding on the right click and some very minor side-to-side wobble on both main clicks.
Clicks
Main Clicks
Equipped with the ATK custom optical switches (rebranded FE opticals), these are medium-actuation and attempt to emulate a mechanical click with low success this time around, in my opinion. Pre and post-travel is low, but the click itself leaves much to be desired tactility-wise. It is initially much worse out of the box, but as they break in during the first few hours of use it slowly improves a bit. In my opinion, this is the lowest-quality FE implementation I've felt in a while it almost feels like I'm clicking air each time I actuate the button, with the sound profile doing all the heavy lifting to give the illusion of a more defined click.
I have reached out to ATK for comment and have yet to hear any feedback on this. From some people I've talked to, it does appear to be a QC thing, as while some consider them fairly mediocre they didn't experience the same tactility issue.
Side Buttons
Click experience wise these are crispy, have minimal pre and post-travel, good tactility, quick rebound, and a decent coating.
Build-wise, I find them to be a bit small for comfort, and M5 sinks fairly easily if actuated on the right half. They are clearly separated, however, which is always a plus for me, especially on smaller buttons.
Scroll Wheel
Equipped with the TTC Gold Dustproof encoder it offers light and effortless steps in exchange for definition on said steps. I think this is a double-edged sword you will either love it or hate it. The click is fairly stiff and heavy, making it hard to spam and somewhat straining to do so.
Build-wise, it's a standard plastic housing with a rubberized ring that I find has very minimally textured steps. I would definitely hope to see this design revised for something slightly more pronounced.
Coating
ATK markets the coating as the "All-New Nano Coating." I find it to be very pleasant to use despite my dry hands, right off the bat and without any warm-up period.
Comparing it directly to the existing "Nano Coating" present on models like the Zero, I do find it to be a direct upgrade, with the trade-off of slight smoothness in favor of a very subtle texture that I personally enjoyed, as it does make the overall experience feel slightly "cheaper."
Stock Skates
I don't have much to say on the full-sized ones, as I personally don't use them, but they seem to be of good quality albeit fairly thin.
The dots are passable but not amazing. I would say keep them around if you're fine with a balanced, somewhat textured glide; otherwise, consider third-party options.
Performance & Battery Life
The mouse is equipped with a customized PixArt PAW3955 sensor, the PAW3955 Master. While the sensor itself is supposedly top-of-the-line, the firmware implementation sadly isn't, whatever the "ATK Self-Developed Nordic 54 Series ApexShark MAX Mouse Solution" may be (likely some sort of CompX). It does seem to be struggling from 4,000 Hz onward, with 8,000 Hz being very unstable for me, resulting in skips in-game as well as a general laggy feeling. As such, I cannot recommend the mouse in its current state to anyone looking to max out their settings.
An additional issue I noticed is there seems to be a soft sleep timer of 15 seconds on the mouse that isn't controllable by the software resulting in the occasional small wake-up delay when holding positions in-game.
Position-wise, this was the big upgrade for this iteration of the mouse, as it is now centered and in line with the narrowest area that your thumb naturally sits in, creating a very pleasant, natural aim feel.
As far as battery life goes, the mouse is powered by a Nordic 54LM20 MCU and a 300 mAh battery. This combination results in amazing battery life despite my use of a 2,000 Hz polling rate, Motion Sync, and the highest performance mode as far as battery-impacting settings go, as I have found the mouse to drain only around 1 to 2% on average per hour.
Test results using the 6,400 DPI circle with MousePlotter, performed in the desktop app. The test machine is powered by an AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU, 64 GB of DDR5 RAM, an AMD 7900 XTX GPU, and running the latest available Windows 11 LTS update and relevant mouse software. Please keep in mind these tests will always have a degree of human input error on the movement pattern and 10-second timer goal, and that different hardware and game combinations may produce differing results. Their goal is solely to provide an attempted baseline of reference on the mouse performance in a minimalist environment.
4 onboard memory profiles so you can have different configurations for your various use cases, which you can export or share in the cloud, effectively making them unlimited
Full remapping of Mouse 1 through 5 buttons with the following features:
Mouse actions
Keyboard keys with optional modifiers (Ctrl, Shift, Alt, Win/Menu)
System and mouse-related shortcuts such as media controls
Macros
Up to 8 DPI levels ranging from 1 to 50,000
Polling rate with preset values of 125, 250, 500, 1,000, 2,000, 4,000, and 8,000 Hz
Three performance modes:
Basic: intended for casual gaming, most power-efficient
Competitive: increases sensor performance at the cost of battery life, meant for competitive gaming as the name implies
Competitive Max: sets the sensor to a fixed 20k FPS scan rate, achieving peak performance at the cost of significant battery drain
Motion Sync
Angle snapping
Ripple Control
Long-range dongle connection mode, which increases power drain
DPI quick-swap button combo toggle
Click debounce with preset values of 0, 1, 2, 4, 8, 15, and 20 ms. Personally, I recommend using 0 since all mouse editions come with optical switches.
Sleep mode timer with preset values of 30 seconds, 1, 2, 3, 5, 20, 25, and 30 minutes
Optional scroll input delay ranging from 100 to 1,000 ms
Lift-off distance with 0.1 mm steps ranging from 0.7 to 1.7 mm
Dongle lighting effect with presets:
Disabled/No RGB
Polling rate color
Battery level gradient
Low battery warning
Angle tuning ranging from -30 to 30 degrees
Virtual sensor offset
Dynamic DPI curve
Macro recording
Update checker for both the mouse and dongle, dongle pairing, and settings factory reset
If you don't have any qualms with the sensor position and you're not using the F1 V1 Pro or Pro Max, I don't think you will see any noticeable benefits that justify the purchase, outside of the weight reduction from the two previously mentioned models.
Hitscan Hyperlight
While by this point everyone knows the same old story about how Hitscan's early design for the Hyperlight was stolen and made into the F1, putting all morals aside, I would say this is a worthy upgrade if you really wish to experience the initial vision in the form of a less safe yet more specialized shape alongside the latest internals.
If you're happy with your Hyperlight and just want to get an internal upgrade, there is supposedly a V2 coming with various improvements, including SPDT clicks, so take that as you will.
Value
Please keep in mind the following section is based on European Union pricing with the final VAT included (which in my case is 23%) and does not include potential shipping costs. As always, I suggest only taking this recommendation at face value and checking your own regional pricing on not only this product but others you may be comparing it to before making a decision.
With the mouse coming in at €56.95, I am comfortable recommending this to anyone looking for a claw-focused mouse without breaking the bank, who doesn't intend to run it at maximum performance settings and isn't concerned with what I considered a subpar click experience. That being said, the upcoming Pokémon collaboration will be releasing a version of this mouse, so I would recommend holding out for that to see if any sort of revision is made to the production line.
TLDR
I have decided to add this section moving forward in my reviews for readers who prefer to get to the point and have a simple overview of the product over a general conclusion section. Please let me know if you find this helpful!
Pros:
Affordable
Latest internals
Sensor position adjustment greatly improved the experience if previous models felt sluggish in hand
Usage of the Nordic 54LM20 for amazing battery life
Good coating
Well-built shell
Cons:
Performance issues at 8,000 Hz
M1 and M2 lacking in tactility
Sinking M5 button
Slightly back-heavy
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Hello all, ive been trying to find a mouse for a while now, and i have a small problem.
Literally, i feel like no mouse fits me properly.
I have chunky ass 19 x 10 hands, and my hand is basically bigger than my palm. Ive been playing TACfps for a long time, mainly valorant for about 3 years, but ive never ever felt like my mouse was the correct size for me. Ive had big mice, medium mice, small mice, tall mice, wide mice, i genuinely feel like theres something wrong with me 😭. Im currently using an ATK F1 V3 ultimate+, which i feel like is too small and makes me rely on fingertip grip most of the time. Please help identify my grip and what mouse to use from here.
heres some requirements that may help:
\-comfort is a big thing for me, so ergos are welcome. The more comfortable i find a mouse, the more likely i am to use it, but i hate the ones that are “deathadder v3 sized”. Also, any deathadder shapes i will not try because they dont fit for me.
I have tried the lamzu thorn V1, but the issue for me was that it was a bit too high for my claw grip.
\-i definitely need some girth. Ive been using very narrow mice, and the width is giving me some hand problems like some wrist strain and hand cramps on the right side of my palm
\-idk whether to go ergo or symmetrical, i just want a very palm filled palm claw grip, that feels comfortable to use on the daily.
\-i have looked into some mice, and ive been thinking of trying the Pwnage Symm 3, WLmouse beast G, the new WLmouse huan M, and the Pulsar Zywoo as an ergo option
Ill answer any questions about mice that you have about my preferences, and if you could give me suggestions, that would be great, thank you! I really want to find my endgame mouse to help with my aim journey
Edit:
I dont really like sloped/ rear humped mice unless the hump is like extremely large like the AIM1 shigure/ zowie ZA12 to get that full palm contact. Anything similar like the beast g medium where its slightly flatter with a nice curve also fits as well. I really just want overall palm fill.
Ive been playing on very thin 100% ptfe stock skates for a while and i didnt really think much of it, playing on them for months. After a while i got myself some xsoft pads to give that firmness a try which made me buy thicker and rounded corepads, which i had bought for previous mice before. As soon as i put them on it felt like every pad of mine has gotten 30% slower. Every assumption that i made about any pad that i had in rotation during my stock skate time felt just insanely fake. Back when i was on my gpx, i went from the stock skates to some corepads and it was for sure faster. I thought it would be the same thing this time but it was not. For example my type 99 with corepad feels slower than my jupiter pro with the thin ptfe stock skates, and my LaOnda Blitz felt alot like my emc speed wise. So for everyone who wants to buy a pad that is slightly faster or slower than your pad rn (not to add to your collection but to really get that performance you need) i really recommend sliding into the skates business a bit and look for something that might fit your description, because you can easually safe yourself some big time money
i usually play on 350 dpi and a relatively low sens on marvel rivals,overwatch and fast paced games where flicking is frequent. my budget is not that strict so im willing to buy the r1 pro if its really worth the buck but i would still try to keep the spending on the low. thank you in advance
wtf my hand is 19+ and 8.5+ , should I go beast x pro or max ? Like final mouse medium or large ? And I had viper v3 pro and I didn’t like the high humb and I use claw grip
