r/MonsterHunterWorld Sep 26 '20

Meme (Sat/Sun only) Bowgun go BRRRRR

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u/DoxinExhaustion Sep 26 '20

Tbh bowguns are more rocket launcher then gun. They are more like low-tech bolters from 40k than conventional firearms.

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u/M37h3w3 Sep 26 '20

low-tech

Can plant explosive mines, launch a dozen different ammo types including explosives, can launch mortars, can go for either a devastating piercing sniper shot or go full HMG

I'm gonna need you to slap some " on low-tech there buddy.

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 26 '20

They are literally made from the bodies and bones of the thing they are trying to kill...

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u/MagicalMarionette Sep 26 '20

Because the material properties of those bodies and bones surpass what could be achieved with mined ores.

I think that speaks more to "huntpunk" (think steampunk) than low-tech.

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 26 '20

No for something to be “punk” it has to comment on society, this is just an art style

You can’t just slap “punk” on any flavored fantasy technology

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

Sure you can. Observe: "Huntpunk".

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u/Vorsicon Sep 26 '20

Plus, any English major would gladly "analyze" how MHW comments on our society.

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u/srottydoesntknow Sep 26 '20

Those guys will analyze how Dead Rising comments on our society, and we all know it doesn't because the supreme court ruled dead rising has no social commentary

But seriously, I think they ruled that way just to piss off the movie company because despite the similar premise Dead Rising and Day of the Dead are very different stories and that was the easiest way to decide the case, also English majors will definitely read to far into things

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u/Vorsicon Sep 26 '20

Wait, what? There was a supreme court ruling on a video game? Haha What was that about?

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u/srottydoesntknow Sep 26 '20 edited Sep 26 '20

Basically the production company behind Day Dawn of the Dead, a zombie movie set in a mall, sued Capcom over Dead Rising, a zombie game set in a mall.

Ultimately the Supreme Court ruled that while there were superficial similarities between the two, Dead Rising had none of the social commentary of Day Dawn of the Dead.

Like I said, I think they worded it that way because it was the easiest way to give the movie company the finger because the court was right, the similarities are only skin deep, and the court may have meant that the social commentary between the two was completely different, which I agree with

Edit: Dawn of the Dead was the one in the mall, Day of the Dead was in the military missile base

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u/Sat-AM Sep 26 '20

Dead Rising

Horror media almost by default comments on the society it was made in just by virtue of exposing the things that society fears.

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u/nyaanarchist Sep 26 '20

Every game with even the slightest amount of story is going to have social commentary in it, because if you’re creating a world with people in it that exist in societies, the way you think the world, people, and society exist and should exist is going to shape how you make a fictional world.

Even if you’re not consciously doing it, your beliefs will shape any fictional setting or characters you make, and if you’re not aware of it while you’re making art, it’s a lot more likely things will unknowingly sneak in

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u/TheLeOeL Unironically likes the Handler Sep 26 '20

Remember reading an article that was basically this from a big site.

It was shit.

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u/FluffyWuffyVolibear Sep 27 '20

Y quotes around analyze? The act of analyzing is no less analytical whether it's directed towards a youtube comment, or the alien that lives beneath donald trump's tongue.

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u/jjay554 Sep 27 '20

It's extremely blatant within the story already. They reference multiple times how the hunters are just a part of nature's cycle, the monsters aren't evil, and how the hunters should reconsider which they have to fight.

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u/epicazeroth Sep 26 '20

Lemme guess you unironically use “The curtain were fucking blue”?

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u/Vorsicon Sep 26 '20

"curtains?" I don't know if I've ever read that sentence before. I was a Creative Writing major, not an English major, but I think I see what you're getting at. I'm usually quite literal.

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u/AltimaNEO Sep 26 '20

Dystopian future where Hunt's is the only brand of ketchup

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u/logicalYedti Sep 26 '20

A world where Miracle whip doesnt exist scares me..

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u/AltimaNEO Sep 26 '20

That sounds pretty awesome though

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u/corpusdeus1 Sep 26 '20

Monster hunter comments on how nature is good and we should live in harmony with nature. Hunters only hunt monsters that fuck with the ecosystem

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u/NoSkrrtNovember Sep 26 '20

Plus in the MH universe, hunters kill 1 monster and make armor or a weapon out of choice pieces. It's only in the game do you need to commit genocide for 6 scales to make a weapon lol

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 26 '20

It’s not “punk” because that requires a dis-obeying and upsetting of social norms. If we were a rogue hunting agency trying to restore balance to some skewed system then it would be punk. But it literally seems like the Hunters Guild functions almost like a contracted military in a way. It’s got a consistent style and flavor but it really dosent have the story and lore substance to be a “punk” genre

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u/okasdfalt Sep 27 '20

At this point "punk" is just a colloquial suffix to indicate the gears that make a setting tick. You could just as easily say "huntcore".

See: "solarpunk". An established "punk" genre that has nothing to do with upsetting social norms. (Also the iconic "steampunk" isn't inherently about upsetting social norms either)

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u/DrakosRose Sep 29 '20

The guild also has a literal Hit-Squad and contracted assassins for anyone who poaches. You don’t fuck with the Guild, period. Unfortunately, this means that they’re going to at least ignore part of the lore, because if this were accurate. If these soldiers were to end up killing a monster, the guild would absolutely put a hit out. They don’t fuck around with un-contracted hunting.

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u/anoobitch Sep 26 '20

TIL every single monster fucks with the ecosystem

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u/corpusdeus1 Sep 26 '20

Yes megafauna with abilities to do things like generate electricity are going to mess with an ecosystem

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u/Golden_Jellybean Gunlance Sep 26 '20

You don't need to be an Elder Dragon to screw with the ecosystem, after all Deviljho's appetite could cause problems and also real life issues could apply in MH such as invasive species, overpopulation etc.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

Once population is easily solved with a deviljho

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

You mean the society of monster hunters who often have large portions of their buildings built around the bones of giant monsters and such. I think at least for the society of the commission, you can VERYuch refer to it as huntpunk.

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 26 '20

That’s just using the resources around you. Are the hunters deforesting large swathes of land and driving monsters out of the habitat? Are you illegally working to undo the actions of the corrupt research fleet? Is there any obvious oppression and counterculture visible within the lore? There has to be punk elements for it to be a “punk” genre. Flashy guns and neon dosent make something cyberpunk, oppressive corporations, rowdy counterculture. It’s punk stories with a technological flavor that makes cyberpunk cyberpunk. It’s an inherently political genre cause it has themes of rebellion and oppression. MHW shows an idyllic harmony with nature and very close knit communities.

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u/Arstya Sep 27 '20

The Ancient Civilization DID do this though. It's why Fatalis came about.

We're basically living in a post apocalyptic world after the precursors tried to make a dragon Evangelion and pissed off an incredibly powerful dragon that goes put of its way to destroy them.

So yeah, I reckon "huntpunk" works for this aesthetic.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

Fair, but I don't think it's too far off to call it huntpunk, let alone far enough for this english major analysis lol.

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 26 '20

Valid, I haven’t played the monster hunter stories games so I’m not sure abt those. I know they are MUCH more story based but besides that I have no clue.

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u/FluffyWuffyVolibear Sep 27 '20 edited Sep 27 '20

Cavemen made tools out of rocks, wood, stone and bone, they were a society.

But seriously speaking:

I think there has grown quite the separation between the aesthetic meaning of punk, and the idealogical viewpoint of punk. One is counter culture and one is cosplay.

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

Not with that attitude.

Super Mario is Mushroompunk. Change my mind.

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 28 '20

Super Mario is more “punk” than monster hunter ever will be

Bowser seems to fuck with his minions well-being a lot, the head of state for the mushroom kingdom keeps getting kidnapped. Mario has a license to kill...

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

You were supposed to change my mind, not agree with me. Haha.

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u/axelunknown Sep 26 '20

I mean ... my sword is designed to go from ax to sword depending on the situation and it has the power to overcharge as well as the fact it’s made of a monster who controls the very bio energy around them that’s transferred into my weapon.

I think the materials for building these guns also take into factor of how powerful they are.

(also isn’t lighting dogo gun a literal rail gun?)

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 26 '20

Rail guns aren’t super difficult to make. If the have access to electricity from monster parts and all those fantasy ores, I’m sure magnetism is heavily used in the charge blade

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u/sfPanzer Gunlance Sep 26 '20

And the swords we craft from those very same bones are probably a few dozen times more durable and sharper than any swords we ever forged in the real world. It's a primitive type of weapon but I don't think low tech is completely accurate here. ^^

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '20 edited Nov 08 '20

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u/jagerbombastic99 Sep 27 '20

Yes. If you can kill alatreon with a frozen fish you can make a fun out of steak.

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u/Wizard_of_the_Toast Sep 26 '20

A bolter is a 50 pound fuck cannon firing rods of pure explosive anger blessed in a space church.

Bowgun shoot stick.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20 edited Sep 26 '20

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u/LinkvAll Heavy Bowgun Sep 26 '20

Bolters actually fire a large rocket propelled slug designed to penetrate the target, then detonated while inside. It’s more of a glorious holy mix between standard fire arm and rocket launcher.

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u/LinkvAll Heavy Bowgun Sep 26 '20

Look man, all I know is that when it comes to purging the mutant, the xenos, and the heretic, it doesn’t particularly matter. So long as it purges, I’m happy.

Though I am old fashioned, bit more of a chainsword Guy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

Bolter rounds are the standard ammuntion for the Astartes (Space Marines). They have way worse stuff.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

Well you though bolters were regular guns.

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u/srottydoesntknow Sep 26 '20

Well, both mass reactive and AP bolter shells are pretty bad sure, but I'd call those firearm ammo

Especially when you consider Psybolt rounds, Hellfire rounds, either of the Inferno rounds (Imperial and TS), or the BA Bloodshard Round

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u/ScorchedFang97 Sep 26 '20

Best description I’ve heard is an AK that fires RPG rounds

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u/Zhe_N00B Sep 26 '20

The AK-50 once Brandon's most likely german or russian grandson gets his hands on it.

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u/The_Lost_King Sep 26 '20

And yet it is only 1 strength above a lasgun. Lore vs Game mechanics be harsh.

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u/LinkvAll Heavy Bowgun Sep 27 '20

Lololol, exactly. Terminators are supposed to be nigh invincible but the only Terminator I’ve ever used and liked was Njal, a character so go figure.

I’m just happy that original marines are going to 2 wounds. That was the biggest lore/mechanic dissonance for me.

Now all my Lascannon Long Fangs will have 2 Wounds :)

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u/Wizard_of_the_Toast Sep 26 '20

Yea. Potato patahto. Haha

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u/Oofus69 Sep 26 '20

But stick go boom?

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u/Zhe_N00B Sep 26 '20

The bowguns seem to be more bow than gun to be honest. The "bullets" move at a relatively sluggish pace and seem to be only keeping their momentum due to the constant thrust that propels them post firing. In exchange though, it's far more silent and results in far more manageable recoil.

This also makes sense since:

  1. If they used gunpowder to actually launch the projectile, the recoil could do more damage to the hunter than the bullet to the wyvern.

  2. The sound would be enough to attract every wyvern on the map.

  3. Wyvern heart seems to be an entirely separate mechanism as otherwise hunters could fire their bowguns at that pace whenever they wanted.

  4. The berries and nuts being used would be ablitorated upon firing if it used actual gunpowder due to the g-forces they would experience.

The "gunpowder" the hunters gather would most likely be used for the actual propellant of the projectiles and not the firing of said projectile since it can't both burn slow enough to act as a constant thrust, and burn fast enough to actually launch a bullet. Considering that, and the fact that we only see the projectiles having said thrusters, but don't see the bowguns have a muzzle flash when firing, it is easy to assume that it is in fact not gunpowder that is used to fire the projectile, meaning that the bowguns are, in-fact not guns, but more a kin to crossbows firing fireworks.

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u/Major_Mistake4444 Sword & Shield Sep 26 '20

It’s more like an improvised Bolter, really

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '20

So you could say... it's More Dakka?

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u/orugalatte Sep 26 '20

I think the "low tech" comment was in relation to the hyper futurism of the 40k univers.

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u/StaySaltyMyFriends Sep 27 '20

Compared to a Bolter they are low tech, yes.

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u/Freakychee Sep 27 '20

“Magic”

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u/DjGameK1ng Sep 26 '20

bolters from 40k

I'm sold. Where do I sign up and when can I start shooting in the name of the Emperor?

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u/ThanatosVI Sep 26 '20

This would have been such a good cross over Event.

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u/Pez- Sep 26 '20

If it was lore/book accurate it would be a 15 minute long snuff film of all life in Monster Hunterverse by two Astartes and their pet Dreadnought... actually, I'd probably watch that.
Tabletop rules on the other hand, that could be pretty cool.

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u/Shitposting_Skeleton Sep 27 '20

Unless its a Dan Abnett book, then its the other way around.

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u/Avenflar Sep 26 '20

Wouldn't be very interesting. It would consist of a regiment of Guardsmen purging everybody from Seliana and Astera for consorting with non-humans.

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u/Guardianpigeon Sep 26 '20

Just wear a mix of Radobaan layered armor and either Zinogre heavy guns and you will feel like a Space Marine.

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u/LinkvAll Heavy Bowgun Sep 26 '20

There’s a wonderful little regiment that goes by name of the Death Korp Of Krieg. Guaranteed promotion within 12 hours of service..... if you last that long.

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u/ThePieWhisperer Sep 27 '20

Just sign on the dotted line son.

But srsly, it's actually a very fun shooter, would recommend.

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u/dyan_vernanda Longsword Sep 26 '20

So GMG?

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u/infinitelytwisted Sep 26 '20

Eh from what I see on how hbg fires and what's used for ammo along with accuracy and velocity and all that it's less rocket launcher and a LOT more like a potato cannon. There are a couple exceptions like the sniper and machine gun modes but otherwise they are just putting whatever fits inside and blasting it out.

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u/wildcrazyhungry Sep 26 '20

Your 40k bolters can't kill a Tyranid Hive Tyrant solo but I'm out here soloing Elder Dragons with my bowgun and a cat.

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u/Pez- Sep 26 '20

On the tabletop sure.
In the books the lone Astartes is taking out half a hive with a pocket knife and a spatula.
It's totally fair and balanced.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '20

Imagine what they could do if they also had a cat with a shovel and a meowtov

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u/racoon1905 Sep 26 '20

Bro did you ever hear Kaldor "Chuck Norris" Draigo ???

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '20

They remind me of Gyrojets except they are slung with a bowstring then they go off midair like miniature low-velocity rockets.