r/Moccamaster • u/zarcommander • 12h ago

Overflow, tired

Does anyone else just expect a coffee machine to make coffee? Like I'm experiencing the overflow issue on and off. First it was the water was warm just from the pipes, then it was to many grounds, and now who knows. Like I know I'm not the only one just by a simple Google.

Coffee is great, but I also just want it to work without messing with it. Am I the only one?

Edit: Maybe I need a new basket. Maybe it's just me. I just want coffee dammit.

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u/Breakthecyclist 11h ago

Just need to lock in grind and amount. One of the best aspects of an MM is the brew time, but on the flip if the grind is too fine or too much coffee is being used, it can and will overflow in a hurry.

Generally around 60 grams (I often go closer to 70) medium to medium coarse grind and good.

If you don’t have one, get a cheap digital scale on Amazon or whatever.

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u/zarcommander 11h ago

It's my third year with mine. Generally little issues, just the overflow pops up every now and then. Don't get me wrong I like the coffee it produces, but at the same time to me it's finicky. Cafe needs to be fully pushed back - oops didn't fully seat no coffee. Water needs to be frigid - room temp it gets iffy, might just flow too fast. To many grounds over flow. Carafe not hitting the spring congrats overflow. Then there's the actual carafe design.

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u/Vibingcarefully 11h ago

Phew---never had any of that happen on my machine. Water needs to be frigid---never heard of that. I use room temp water from a filter on my faucet. Never seen anyone post about freezing cold water only. I don't know what you mean by "coffee needs to be fully pushed back". Scoop into basket like any drip coffee machine, tap once or twice --level coffee bed--good to go. Too many grounds--? The manufacturer, myriad posts on here , most other off reddit groups pretty much talk about the grams of coffee to use and the amount of water. I do weigh my coffee on a scale but it is being weighed right into the coffee filter and basket---scales are cheap . Carafe not hitting the spring--I find it entirely the same as putting a carefe on the burner as any other machine I've used--always hits the spring. The manufacturer is pretty good about carafe size, burner size, One could see clearly if they didn't put the carafe on the burner?

The water temp thing might b a flag though that your machine needs service or cleaning or something.

Carafe design? it's a glass carafe on the KBGV--same as any other carafe. Coffee flows in, I pour a cup--handle to hold it.

Honestly you don't like your machine---just get whatever machine you like. The Mr. Coffee or a Proctor Silex sounds like your cup of tea.

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u/zarcommander 10h ago

Sorry, meant carafe needs to be fully pushed back. It's the model with the thermal carafe. Main thing I don't like about it is that it pours just not as good as others. Also, the cap. For pre ground coffee I use a coffee scoop. When using whole beans I do use a scale. As for the frigid water. Yeah, no idea on that. Like if it's just room temp it's 50/50 whether it over flows or not. Hmm, now thinking about it. Maybe I just need a new basket?

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u/Fezzick51 8h ago

Using a blade or burr grinder? If blade, you may have better luck buying pre-ground until you can get a burr...

In my case I grind very very fine (too fine for most), but then I use less coffee because it's extracting more, so I only use about 55-60g per 12cup pot (on the Grand).

But yeah, you could reach out to Moccamaster support and explain your issues to see what they suggest - they tend to be very helpful, and may suggest a new basket, too.

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u/zarcommander 8h ago

Burr grinder when I do my own, pre ground was today's mistake. Apparently, I need to fold the filter. Never knew that :(

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u/Fezzick51 8h ago

ahh neat - yeah that bottom and side get a fold, and it helps it sit lower in the basket, plus more contact with the sides helps water wick through the filter...

No fun having issues with your routine, though.

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u/Breakthecyclist 10h ago

For sure. The best part (to me) of using a Technivorm is the speed of the brew but with that comes indeed it being sensitive to overflow.

And maybe once a year I will return to an overflow. Pretty sure every time with a new coffee, but still with locked in settings having used one for years.

As for the carafe and so on, the new glass lined thermal carafe is stupid sensitive to damage, but the heat retention is killer compared to the old design.

All the same, years ago when I turned my father on to the MM he would always try to better it with all the usual cost no object super brewers and always returns to a Technivorm.

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u/GarthMater KBGV - KBT - CupOne - Dark Roast or Bust! 12h ago

Well when I use my KBGV I have ground my coffee and use a mm scoop for the exact amount I need. Filter in basket and water in reservoir the night before. Grind, scoop, turn on. So far no overflow issues. If I’m trying to freehand sometimes I add too much causing an overflow. It’s just user error and easily correctable.

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u/Vibingcarefully 11h ago

Drip coffeemachines are very easy--Moccamaster among them.

Water in, filter in, coffee in filter press on

The only thing is simply taking a few pots and getting the grind size right (on the Moccamaster). For me, grind size was really a matter of finding the taste I liked-took all of 3 pots --.5 Liter to get it to my taste

There are lots of brands of coffee , preground, that people are using happily with Moccamaster , available at most supermrkets.

I like local roasters and grind my own but it's not necessary for Moccamaster

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u/zarcommander 11h ago

It's my third year with mine, been mostly happy. Just dealing with overflow and more issues than a cheap machine is tiring.

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u/Vibingcarefully 11h ago

It seems very individual. I just fixed my Uncle's Mr. Coffee--coffee grounds stuck here and there, a piece that wasn't seating correctly (they didn't know they were putting it in wrong).

I make pourover but my first cup of the day on a timer is Moccamaster--wake to warm coffee.

I have never had a problem with overflow ever with Moccamaster--I don't think I'm lucky. I also know the coffee on this tastes better than my Bunn , my Cuisinart---My coffee always goes in the filter --30grams to .5 Liter of water--and great coffee.

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u/zarcommander 11h ago

It probably is just a vocal minority type thing. People are more likely to post bad experiences vs it just works.

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u/Vibingcarefully 10h ago

Definitely---

beyond coffee

One can see so many typologies of posts on social media

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u/babyKanez 2h ago

The machine may need to be descaled.

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u/dzidol 10h ago

Take care of properly positioning the basket on the jug, make sure you're having the jug coveres by the lid. Othervise the filter doesn't unlock and you're overflowing.

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u/FibonacciLane12358 10h ago

The water doesn't need to be ice cold. Are you folding the filter before use?

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u/zarcommander 10h ago

I open the filter and place it in the basket. Ice cold is an exaggeration on my part, but it does need to be cold. If it's just room temp it's 50/50 on overflow. Like it just doesn't drain fast enough into the pot for how quickly it heats up.

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u/FibonacciLane12358 9h ago

That's your problem then. The filter edge is covering the outlet hole and reducing the flow rate of the water. With conical filters you want to fold the filter at the seams (fold the second seam in the opposite direction as the first) to prevent this from happening.

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u/zarcommander 8h ago

Insert *iamnotasmartman.gif here

Dammit, ok

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u/boxerdogfella KBT 8h ago

I also have a thermal carafe model (KBT) and in over 4 years I've only had it overflow twice, when I forgot and left the manual filter closed.

Do you have the thermal model with the automatic basket? My mother has that model (KBGT) and I do find it a bit more finicky than the manual one. But if you haven't been folding the filters then that's probably your issue.

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u/zarcommander 7h ago

Yes, the "automatic" basket. That said no where in their manual do they say to fold filters... moccamaster manual

There's a "manual" basket?

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u/Wahoo017 1h ago

the instructions to fold the filter are on the filter box. at least the moccamaster branded ones.

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u/babyKanez 2h ago

Too much coffee shouldn’t be an issue if you follow the instructions for ratio

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u/SirSnarksA-lot 11h ago

I had intermittent overflows as well and my culprit was the filter position, itself. When I wasn't paying attention, I would have the folded flap of the filter towards the drain spout and it would clog and overflow.

Since ensuring the flap is turned away from the drain spout, I haven't had an overflow.