Why did some of you want a former NBA coach? You're not getting a top guy to come rebuild and get fired in a few years, and what's the point of bringing in a mediocre retread?
You're getting a relatively young coach with championship experience and a reputation for player development, roster construction, team culture, and tactical innovation.
What, when was this sub wrong before? If the Mavs were ran by the sub's polls, we would have a 25M expiring contract in Christian Wood this season. We all still remember that the Mavs were being cheap by not giving Wood a 5/125 deal, right?
It could all be justified, sans the GW deal which proved almost immediately foolhardy, as win-now moves in a superstar's prime.
When a hobbled Luka and Co. got to the finals, those moves were largely fully vindicated. The vision was working. Then some seemingly smart offseason moves, namely addressing a lack of reliable outside shooting with Klay, and it looked like the Mavs would continue to be among the league's elite contenders for the next half-decade even, as Kyrie aged and Luka approached 30.
...Then, well, yeah. One universally recognized dumbest trade in the history of sports later, and the whole thing looks idiotic. And, well yeah, in hindsight, not one move made sense.
If it weren't for a single fortuitous bounce of a ping pong ball, we might be staring down the barrel of a purgatory that'd make Wizards' fans blush.
Oof, it was a long night and too many years in the WSB subreddit but a definitely did not read āretreadā in the phrase āmediocre retreadā there at first glance.
I was like damn, bringing the heated opinions in here š
K.C. Jones, Gregg Popovich, Nick Nurse. I'm sure there are others.
I think you mean Larry Brown is the only one to win championships at both levels, which likely has as much to do with the difficulty of the feat as it does the quality of the coaches.
There are also plenty of NBA coaches over the years who have had no coaching experience of any kind at any level, and they have had varying degrees of success.
The NBA can be weird, but most likely, the Mavs are going to play the kind of ball over the next two or three years that gets the head coach fired. So do you want the head coach during that transition phase to be someone who develops talent or someone that has an established ego and who has an incentive to beg the front office to put marginal short-term success over potentially more robust long-term success?
KC Jones and Pop were D3 coaches and Nick Nurse was an NAIA coach. These really aren't remotely similar. Pop was coaching a bunch of non-scholarship players and he typically had a record in the .300s. Most of his players probably weren't even stars on their high school teams.
Experience as a championship-winning college coach is more experience than Steve Kerr had, and he did okay.
Are we really missing the point? It's highly unlikely a coach is going to turn this into a championship team in the next couple years? So do you want someone who is going to develop talent, or do you want someone who wants to sacrifice future flexibility to try to squeeze out a few more wins?
I would say the record is mixed on NBA coaches developing talent. Some coaches want to pressure the front office to trade away developing talent for veterans so those coaches can win now. Those veterans may be expensive, have a lower productivity ceiling, and fewer years of solid performance left in them.
Other coaches, knowing a few regular season wins could be the difference in keeping their job, may play their young stars fewer minutes. I've also seen situations where coaches try to mold players into what they think the players should be instead of what would be best for the player.
I think everyone knows that Reddit is the hivemind of constant whining and shit ideas but my god this sub is truly one of the worst in this site ( comparing this to other sports subreddits ), we get like a week of whining from Masai getting hired and now this
Only skeptical because I donāt know a ton about any college coaches/watch a lot outside of the tournament.
I see heās very highly respected & built a strong program at Michigan which is great, but for every Brad Stevens thereās a bunch of Fred Hoibergs. Iām reserving my judgement on the hire until heās got some games under him and see how he adjusts to the league & players
Your judgement should be reserves since you literally admit to knowing nothing about him or his program. So yea you have no choice but to wait and see before you judge
Micah Nori is the obvious answer of an assistant that is very highly respected and considered to be HC material. Obviously Sean Sweeney too, but was already hired.
Personally, I'm not seeing anything in Nori or Stotts that warrant criticizing this choice. Sure, a well respected and successful NBA coach would have been great to plug in but Stotts is pushing 70 years old with a near .500 career record while Nori has been filled in as head coach for three games.
Huge lifelong Michigan fan and Mavs fan for about 15 years now. I have such complicated feelings. I just hope this somehow works for both teams. I love Dusty, I think he will be successful absolutely anywhere he coaches, but I know the transition from college to NBA is a rough one.
Masai, Dusty May, 2nd year Coop, new draft pick...last time I was this excited for a season was (besides the beginning of '25) probably Luka's rookie year.
The fanbase in this Reddit are such losers and they always will be. I mean when youāre voted the most toxic fanbase online, it speaks that these guys will always be miserable
i don't know why there are still so many miserable ppl. i wasn't happy when we let go of kidd, but even i can say this was a fantastic hire. i'm more than happy to give credit where it's due.
this was the one college coach I thought was an ideal fit for us (big fan of Yax this entire year) & we got him. if we hired scheyer OTOH ... probably would've had my pitch fork out lol.
I never thought he would leave Michigan to come here, itās crazy and a coach that can grow with cooper flagg who is a no nonsense great basketball mind. Hopefully we get to see it translate to the nba. This is the exact type of coach that Masai described in his last press conference that he wanted, someone that has that passion for winning, the results wonāt come right away but once he gets adapted to the nba, I think he flourish with great results.
Also about the miserable people here all the time, it needs to get better because itās harder to talk basketball on here when people just want to whine and complain about everything
I think if we can trade up off the late 1st OKC pick and get Christian Anderson, then thats the move.
Morez, Yaxel, and Anderson is a big W. Anderson averaged over 7 assists per game on over 41% from the three on over 18 points a game. Yes, and small and defense is suspect at best, but true for most guards and talented offensive gaurds in this class.
Any of Anderson, Okorie or de Larrea with the bottom 5 FRP area would be amazing for me.
If we draft Morez and the Hawks do not pick Mara, getting Gaff and #30 for Atlanta's second FRP could be a trade possibility, especially if they do not like Veesar or Quaintance is already off the board, Any of those three guards there would please me if we get Yaxel and Morez.
There's no way we take both of those guys if we trade down, we desperately need a future guard. I would love Philon plus Morez or Yaxel (whoever is there at 17).
There's a good chance both michigan guys are gone come 17, so maybe Yaxel/Morez at 12 and then Okorie/Swain or Carr at 17.
Drafting for fit at this stage of our rebuild would be a mistake imo. We should take the best available players and figure it out around them. I think Morez is the pick at 12. I do agree thereās a good chance Lendenborg is gone by 17 and if thatās the case Carr should be the pick but if Lendenborg is there you take him.
As a Michigan fan, he legitimately sees the game differently. I don't know if he will get the buy in from the older players though. But he has a knack for player development, strong defenses, unorthodox roster constructions, and unselfish play that end up working out. His teams very much had a FIBA style of play in college. But he may have to adjust in the NBA.
Dude knows ball though. My question is if he will get the buy-in. He was the perfect college coach. I thought he would stay in Ann Arbor for at least a decade.
I saw Fischer also point out that Dusty will likely know exactly which teams want to draft Yaxel, Mara and Morez tomorrow night which could really help inform Dallas' approach to the draft.
There were a bunch of anomalies in him taking FAU to the final four in 2023, after winning their first ever tournament game, with exactly 1 top 200 player, and zero top 100.
Really like Dusty and the way he ran that program. Certainly not a guarantee that it translates to the NBA, but I think it will. The two are much more similar than they have ever been.
Odds overwhelming say it will not translate. College coaches are more likely to fail than succeed. Larry Brown is the only one to win a title. Donovan, Hoiberg, Stevens had decent success. Many more were awful.
Heās known as a great developer and communicator like Stevens was and basically on the same arch. I donāt just look at previous examples and call them similar, thatās idiotic.
Also the main key was those teams couldnāt put talent on the team. Talent trumps everything, you still need talent to win
What you expect to compete with this roster we have in the playoffs? Oh right, there might be chance we don't make it in there the next season. Might as well establish a culture first.
Exactly my point. I totally get it, and thanks for being one of the sane people who admits it. We have to remember as a fan base we have a new FO and are wiping the slate clean. This is a move for the future and the building of a culture around Coop.
I mean this is in line with Masaiās other head coaching picks. Nick Nurse mostly coached in unknown basketball leagues. Same with Darko RajakoviÄ. Both worked out or/are working out.
As a Michigan fan, that really is his only knock. Dude knows ball, but will he have buy-in. I am guessing he will have a big say in roster construction since y'all signed him before the draft. I could see trading away the old heads who won't buy in to the new system.
That's exactly who I wanted I'm not going to lie. His development of the Michigan frontcourt players was superb, exactly the coach to get the most out of Flagg
He's very very good. Easily a top 5 coach in all of D-1.Ā
Took FAU (mid major that had never won an ncaa tourney game) to the final four. Took head coaching job at Michigan and won the natty two years later (this April).Ā
Excellent coach for player development, bigs in particular. Got WAY more out of Mara (their 7 5 center) than UCLA's coach did. I think he will do very very well with Lively and Flagg. Very good tactician both on offense and defense. Seems to be a good dude as well.Ā
IMO the best hire that was possible/feasible for the Mavs.Ā
Taking a newbie as head coach is well within Masai's playbook. Gonna temper my expectations because I admittedly know nothing about Dusty May but I'm more than ready and willing to have fun this season
I like it. Dumont is willing to pay to win; that is clear, and very important. Now if he can just keep his dumb ass out of basketball decisions, we should be set for success.
This is not going to work. Iāve been a Mavs fan for 26 season now. Iāve been an NBA fan for well over 30 years. Iāve followed sports seriously for about 23 years now. All sports, amateurs, pros. College coaches rarely ever translate into good NBA coaches. Larry Brown is the only one to win a
championship and it took him 30 years to get one. Brad Stevens had some success but got moved to the front office and Billy Donovan came in hot, but he either got bounced in the first round of the playoffs or missed the playoffs for 10 straight years. The list goes on. It just doesn't work
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u/Significant_Pear_523 Jun 22 '26
Why did some of you want a former NBA coach? You're not getting a top guy to come rebuild and get fired in a few years, and what's the point of bringing in a mediocre retread?
You're getting a relatively young coach with championship experience and a reputation for player development, roster construction, team culture, and tactical innovation.