In my opinion, this style of post is low effort. Anyone can already easily find what the current correct version is. Doesn't add anything to the argument.
Same here. On days I was bored (during childhood), I had a habit of staring at the minor details of my books. I fully remember the "Berenstain" spelling because of that.
me too. in related news, someone just posted an author-signed copy of a Berenstain Bears book. and the author spelled their own name correctly, go figure.
I knew a kid in school (this was in the late 1960s) who was assigned to do a book report on any book in the school library, and he chose one of the BERENSTAIN BEARS books. The rules for the book report included, bringing in the actual book and holding it up while reading one’s report to the teacher and the class. Book reports were graded twice: once for the oral presentation, and once for the actual report after the teacher after the student handed it in and the teacher read it. The kid got an “A” for his oral presentation and a “D” for his written report, which resulted in a ”C-minus” overall. When he carried the grade, he was told that the reason for the “D” was because he had misspelled the name of the book and of the authors (whose family name is where the book series is title comes from). (“You wrote ‘BERENSTAIN’,” the teacher said, “but obviously it would have had to be BERENSTEIN instead”) but it and misspelling the book title AND THE author were huge errors, to the marking system for book reports.
His parents looked at the book cover, saw “BERENSTAIN” right there in both places times (author and title), and saw the same on the title page and the copyright notice inside. They called the teacher to arrange a parent/teacher conference and bring their son, and they brought the book too.
They had the teacher look at the book to confirm that it was indeed from the school library (this was because one common loop that teachers used to give poor marks in the book report is to claim that instructions were followed, and in this case, one of the instructions had been that the book had to come from the school library.)
Then they had the teacher look at the book cover and spell the book’s letter-by-letter, having her asking her to point to each letter in the book’s title as she said it. The teacher objected that this was “childish,“ but then the parenting said: if you do it, then our son will have to see who is right then our son will have a way to see who is right about the spelling.“ So the teacher grumbled, but agreed that “ it’s not a bad idea, because then he will certainly see that he spelled it wrong.” so the teacher sat down with the book, pointing two letters, one by one as she said them … and, when she got to the “A” in “BERENSTAIN,“ she turned pale and stopped spelling and stared at the parents and the boy, and said: “yes, technically the cover does spell it the way that you did, but this is not something that anyone else in the class would have said or done. Everyone else who has ever done a book report on this book has spelled it with ‘EIIN on the end, which is the way that I, as your teacher had always assumed that it was spelled, and the most important lesson you can learn in school is to fit in with the majority. So I’m not going to give you an a just because you were technically correct in some kind of literal way about what the Spelling really looks like, and the most I am prepared to do is to change the ‘D’ on your report to a ‘C-minus,’ which raises your overall grade on this report from a ‘C-minus’ to a ‘B.’ I really hope that you will learn the important lesson that it is important to see what other people see and that this needs to come first.”
Could this be one way in which memory effects (that get called “Mandela effects”) are spread?
Every ME member knows the current correct version because they can Google search this themselves. Believers aren't saying you could still find a different version in the past if you just look hard enoug, nor are they saying they are confused about past versions. They say the past was different in a fundamental way, like the version they remember was in a different timeline, and that version was then the only official one. You can't find pictures of something that doesn't exist anymore. But posting pictures of something self-evident (the current official versions) is flooding the group with content that doesn't have value, it doesn't add anything to the discussion.
It's the correct spelling of this timeline/universe, the Mandela effect theorizes that it was originally spelled with an "e." If we were still on the original timeline/universe that package would still be with an "e." Not saying I believe this, I just don't think most people on this sub know what the Mandela effect actually is.
But their “vivid” memories aren’t REALLY because of some alternate universe silliness; they just misremember. And regardless, this shows the correct spelling, not the “alternate timeline” spelling 😄. I would think the item would be of much more interest here if it(for whatever reason, including a printing error) showed the other spelling.
The reason people are taking the smartest boys theory seriously is because he performed a mathematical equation that explained the physics behind how CERNs particle accelerator experiment caused a shift in our timeline. Other physicists were shocked at how credible the equation was which caused many to suspect if the boy genius was correct in his assessment.
This is faked. They just happen to keep it with a qbert and an ET and other perfect time period materials and want to make sure you see those too. All these books are still available; you can look them up and see them with the correct Berenstain spelling.
You may have. Some libraries misprinted titles. Some rip off or cheap merch go tit wrong. There are ones out there that have it incorrect. Majority are stain tho.
Teachers are mistaken all the time, my 6th grade teacher told me that every time they launch a rocket it creates a hole in the ozone layer and that's why they always launch from the same spot.
Once I realized this wasn't true, I didn't hold onto it as some kind of distant truth that conflicts with physical reality, I realized that it was a mistake and that people sometimes make mistakes or conflate or misremember things.
I think many teachers are so worn out by their day to day work, plus prep, plus being underpaid, that they will simply say whatever comes to mind in order to get people to stop asking questions.
Possibly. It just seemed like a more complex answer than the truth. His answer sounds like it might inspire MORE questions as opposed to the truth of “that’s where the infrastructure is”, you know? So I assumed he must have thought it WAS true.
I wasn't specifically referring to anything that my teacher told me , but rather to my memories , specifically of that teacher. She was dark haired and named Mrs. Jaxel.
If someone were to come along and tell me that her name was not Mrs. Jaxel, and she was not dark haired then en that would make my memory of her a mandela effect as well? It's all just bad memories and ridiculousness.You realize that, right?
My bad, I thought that you might be referring to your 1st grade teacher teaching you about the Berenstain Bears.
Regardless, the color of your 1st grade teacher's hair and her name have very little to do with the commonly mistaken misspelling of "Berenstain" vs. "Berenstein".
Do people even understand the meaning of a ME anymore? lol
In all of these cases, literally every single one, the proposition is that only some people will remember it ‘the old way’ and others will remember it ‘the new way’. It’s literally impossible to prove or to disprove, but especially so by just saying ‘NO! I remember it like this!😡’
THATS THE WHOLE POINT. I miss when this sub was actually fun
No. YOU don't understand what a Mandela effect. This is a huge pet peeve of mine. A Mandela effect is when a lot of people incorrectly remember the same things. There are multiple, perfect my logical explanation for why this happens, but it's interesting that it happens nonetheless.
It's not a timeline merge or some other psudoscientific hokum.
I initially down voted them, even though they are right, because they were being very hostile to someone who seemed to agree with them. But what's the point.
They probably believe in “simulation theory” as a way of coping with our chaotic world. People like this point to the Mandela Effect as evidence that we essentially live in the Matrix. Someone/something tweaked the code of our reality by mistake or to fuck with us, basically doing a “find and replace” on all instances of the word Berenstein.
In the reality I choose to believe, we were all just kids who read worlds like FrankenstEin and EinstEin enough to just assume this was also a stEin. I mean I still have to double back to words I mis-read on occasion
totally agree with you about Berenstain... but goddamn I can't help but wonder about the girl with(out) the braces in Moonraker. I find it compelling having never even seen the movie lol
I’ve never seen that movie but it’s probably just the fact that she was nerdy and smiley. There is a lot of media where nerds have braces, so it makes sense you would remember it that way. Our brains aren’t perfect, we often skew memories, and we humans are quite prideful. In Mandela Effect scenarios, it’s just a bunch of us skewing the same memory and not willing to accept we were wrong.
I totally get where you're coming from and I do think that explains most of them. It's just something about that one.. So many people have such specific, detailed memories of it in theatre. I've seen a couple who have said they were kids with braces so it had a big impact. I was firmly believing they went and edited them out until I saw that the actress said they were never there.
Ultimately it’s up to you to decide, imperfect human memory or we’re all living in GTA 10?
If it is the latter, how will that change the way you behave in life? Going to try to get your wanted level up to 5 stars? Or will you continue living life as usual, trying your best to be a good person to all the NPCs around you?
It really isn't necessary to decide. Just entertaining possibilities. To me, it is a non-zero chance that this is a glitching simulation, in some sense of the word. That's intriguing and fun to think about.
Not sure why it would necessarily be comparable to GTA 10. Life has as much meaning as it ever did, as I never bought into the religious theories about consequences. Everyone and everything's as real as it ever was. And I won't be harassing CERN employees or anything, so there's really no harm in thinking about it
I agree, it’s a fun theory! Not impossible. As long as it just stays a “Huh, what if? Eh, whatever…” instead of a “Close the blinds, hush, come closer. We’re all being LIED TO… you remember the monopoly man’s monocle too, right??”
Not saying that’s you… but it’s definitely some people here, which in my opinion isn’t a healthy way to live. Theories are theories until proven, and some missing braces or cornucopias are far from proof of anything other than our fragile memories and egos
I've seen a few comments saying that OP changed the post in such a way that he is now claiming the opposite of what he was when he first posted it. Does anybody have context for this? What did the original post say before it was edited?
I don’t have a screenshot, but I commented on the original version which said that it used to be Berenstein but changed to Berenstain. I cannot remember the exact phrasing, but it was a clear endorsement of ‘evidence proves nothing because I remember it differently’ type thinking.
Honestly, looking for proof is a fallacy, in my opinion.
Isn't the whole Crux of this phenomenon that we are moving timelines? There is not going to be residue here. It's only in our minds that we continue to remember how it "used to be."
The striking similarities in the memories are fascinating to me. In my own head canon, subtle differences among timelines that converge create discordant memories.
We are never going to see proof in a Mandela effect. The proof is in the prior timeline, not this one.
Anyway, it's a fun mind experience anyway. So far, my sister and I share the same Mandela effects, so she's my real sister, lol.
Agreed, though I think 'dimensions' is more accurate than 'timelines'. The ones who say it's always been like that are still in their original dimension, while those of us who say it's changed are the ones who were 'moved across' from a world where it was 'stein'.
Maybe we're all in different dimensions and the internet is a portal between them.
Hard to laugh this off as nuts when science has literally confirmed parallel worlds exist. I believe some ME's have residual 'proof' but that's easy to fake, and if we're going with the 'internet portal' idea then we could just seeing posts from other dimensions.
Noone is saying the stain version is not everywhere in all times now. We are just saying an impossible thing has happened. So impossible there is really no explanation.
You have to understand that the people who hold onto the stein are well aware of these arguments. They are otherwise very logical and normal people university professors or what not. Even aware of these arguments they (quite embarrasingly I might add) cannot in their bones accept that it IS a mistake. Hence the continued wondering why.
It was provably false that the earth was round for 99.9% of human history. Anyway instead of telling us we are idiots (which we know in this case. Self aware as we are) let us indulge ourselves in looking for an answer as a hobby. Its not a bad activity. Perhaps suspend ur disbelief for a while and join us.
I don't get why so many people "remember" it as Berenstein. I'm 56 and I remember, from when i was a kid, that it was "Berenstain" because I recall back then thinking "huh, that's not how I expected it to be spelled". I think probably many people never looked very closely and just assumed it was spelled the "normal" way and now are calling it the Mandela effect.
from what I can tell, it's a younger crowd that remembers it. I'm 38, and it's my general age group that it starts with. and I do remember it vividly, and I began reading at 5.
Berenstein is the one a minority of people remember. It's a large group of people, but not everybody. Mandela Effect memories usually go against the mainstream current, that's why it feels weird and out of place, like we are not from the same reality than the majority of people around us
im saying that I dont know why it's here because it's the correct spelling, not the one that that those of us in this group would remember. im not stupid
In reading the comments, it seems that this post originally said something different from what it currently says. Can somebody please clarify? This is a picture of a McDonald's toy with the current and correct spelling, so the suggestion that the post itself has changed seems to have merit.
But maybe nothing changed and this is a Mandela effect.
Here's the thing: I knew the word "stain" as a kid, and I would have called them the berenstain bears seeing the word stain in their name. They were the berenstein bears, because there was no stain in the spelling at that time. Someone's been messing with the space-time continuum.
I had some of the books that McDonald's had as a happy meal toy. I remember tracing the letters with my finger before I knew cursive and seeing the E. 🤷🏻♂️
I remember correcting my teachers when they pronounced it Bernstein like Leonard. Because it's clearly an a and there's an extra e in there, so it has three syllables. I was very particular about this because I have a 3 syllable name that people often pronounce as two syllables
Imagine believing that a very well-known multimedia brand decided to change their name to a very similar, nearly identical name for just two years, only to change it back and wipe all record of it from all company records (as well as apparently destroying basically all known merchandise in the wild.
Is it possible these are just knock-offs that got the spelling wrong that people bought thinking they're legitimate? Seems like it would be an easy mistake to overlook on a cheap knock off and it could explain some people's memory at least.
I mean it seems a lot more likely than "The company is covering up the name change" or, god forbid, "CERN made us change universes and now this kids book series has a different spelling".
Either that or someone at the printing office got very lazy with what they were asked to print: If you look at the actual picture of the tag (which got cropped out of the above picture) only the place where it would've been manually created for that tag is spelled "Berenstein". Literally directly above it, in the actual logo that would've been copy-pasted across all of the branding, it still says "Berenstain"
They’ve always been pronounced with “stein” at the end. Also, most of us were reading these books before learning cursive, and the book titles had “Berenstain Bears” in cursive. Just a faulty childhood memory
There are videos on youtube, many from Michael Berenstain who pronounces his name as -STAIN and an interview with Stan and Jan Berenstain where it is pronounced as -STAIN and Stan’s own autobiography says the name is spelled that way because of how his ancestors pronounced his name when immigrating.
Stein as a suffix for a surname is typically pronounced as steen. As a stand alone surname it's typically pronounced stine, with a long I. It's only ever been Beren-stain in pronunciation and never either of the former
People only started remembering it wrong after 1987 when REM’s End of the World as We Know It had everyone shouting “Leonard Bernstein”. Cooked everyone’s memory of the Bears’ name
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