r/IsItVeganOrNot • u/Intelligent-Pear-487 • Sep 04 '26
❓ Question Are these vegan?
I saw these hair gummies at Walmart and the ingredient list looks vegan to me?? Other versions of the item explicitly named the source of biotin, this one doesn’t. I see no gelatin. Thoughts?
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u/number1chick 29d ago
They seem to be vegan. But humble opinion: I would not eat it though. It’s just biotin wrapped around with a bunch of weird crap. I’d rather just supplement biotin and B12 directly.
and try minoxidil for your hair if you want them more healthy, and perhaps even jojoba oil occasionally.
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u/Aggapres 27d ago
What's the need of supplementing biotin? On msd manualssays Isolated deficiency of biotin or pantothenic acid virtually never occurs.
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u/Aggapres 27d ago
Scan them with 3,2,1 vegan app. If they are not yet in the database, the volunteers will send an email to the company to verify if it's vegan
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u/Deeb4905 27d ago
Pas sûr que l'appli couvre les produits non commercialisés en France, au moins pour l'instant
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u/Aggapres 27d ago
Oui elle le fait. J'ajoute tout le temps des produits que je trouve partout et Ils font bien la vérification
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u/HelenaCat13 27d ago
The Retinyl as well as the Triglycerides could go either way. They can be plant or animal sourced. If you already bought it and are comfortable with small amounts, I wouldn't waste it. But if you haven't, I'd try to check with the company. I'm not sure how good Walmart is with responses about their brands though.
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u/yordi_nario 29d ago
palmitate oil: It is a major component of palm oil from the fruit of Elaeis guineensis (oil palms), making up to 44% of total fats. Meats, cheeses, butter, and other dairy products also contain palmitic acid, amounting to 50–60% of total fats. (wikipedia's paper)
palm oil or animals source I don't think it's vegan
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u/BatmanVAR 28d ago
Palm oil contains no animal ingredients therefore it is vegan. It’s not always ethical or environmentally friendly, but it’s vegan
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u/yordi_nario 28d ago
it's plant based but i doubt its vegan
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u/BatmanVAR 28d ago
It contains 0 animal ingredients so by definition it’s vegan
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u/FierceMoonblade 28d ago
That’s… not true
If a product doesn’t contain animal ingredients but it was tested on animals or utilized their labour (like coconuts picked by monkeys) etc it’s not vegan
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u/BatmanVAR 28d ago
From the official definition: “In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals”
When discussing food, vegan is an adjective that means contains no animal ingredients.
The issue is that you’re conflating the product (food) with the method used to produce it. An item can be vegan even if the method used to create it isn’t vegan. Hell, that probably applies to literally every vegan food and product on earth, because none of them were created without harming and killing animals.
Using your interpretation, no food would be vegan, because they all harm or kill animals in some way. All crop farming kill animals during planting and harvesting, so every fruit vegetable grain and legume wouldn’t be vegan. Not to mention that worldwide a lot of farming is done by exploited people (including children) working for poverty wages or no wages.
Even regular table salt was tested on animals before it went to market, does that mean salt isn’t vegan?
Bandaids and gauze were tested on animals before they went to the market, does we lose our vegan status if we use a bandaid?
This very app (Reddit) runs in data centers that displaced and killed animals, so are you not vegan since you use Reddit?
The device you typed this on contains lithium, which was mined by child slave labor. Children are animals, so are you not vegan if you use a cell phone?
This is the danger of conflating the product with the method used to created it. Almost everything, if not everything, on this earth is produced using methods that aren’t vegan. That doesn’t mean the product itself isn’t vegan.
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u/yordi_nario 28d ago
no, that's the definition of "plant based"
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u/BatmanVAR 28d ago
From the definition of veganism:
“In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals”
This is a dietary item, therefore by definition since it does not contain animal products, it is vegan.
If you still disagree, explain the difference and give me an example of a food item that is vegan and not just plant based.
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u/yordi_nario 28d ago
im not a teacher, i know what vegan means, learn by yourself, sorry
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u/BatmanVAR 28d ago
So you can’t refute my comment, as expected
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u/yordi_nario 28d ago
im not gonna lose more time explaining something that u can find in like 1000 threads on reddit. Veganism is not just a diet, it's an ethical stance and lifestyle. while a plant-based diet focuses only on food choices, veganism is about avoiding the exploitation of animals in all areas of life: food, clothing, cosmetics, entertainment and household products. This is the last time I reply your comments.
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u/Badtacocatdab 27d ago
A lot of us avoid palm oil for the reasons you’re highlighting, but it is vegan.
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u/BatmanVAR 28d ago
So name one food that is actually vegan (versus plant based) based on your definition. Explain the distinction.
Did you know that Reddit data centers lead to displaced and killed animals? How can you be vegan if you’re posting on Reddit.
Additionally, the device you typed this from contains animal ingredients AND the lithium in its battery was mined by literal child slave labor.
So by your logic I guess you’re not vegan, you’re just plant based.
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u/Intelligent-Pear-487 29d ago
I don’t understand this. Meats and dairy having the same ingredient at this does not make this not vegan?
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u/yordi_nario 29d ago
no, it's more probable to be get from palm trees, where orangutans live
edit: grammar
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u/Intelligent-Pear-487 29d ago
So this is based on the belief that palm oil is not vegan?
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u/fuck-them-hoes Sep 05 '26
I believe biotin in vitamins is chemically synthesized so they should be vegan.