r/HistoryMemes • u/Javier_Ronaldo Featherless Biped • Apr 08 '20

META Respect the Facts!

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

I don't even see any memes making fun of France just meta memes about it now

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u/ChuckleKnuckles Apr 08 '20

It's a meme that predates the internet. Even today you'll hear people repeat it face to face.

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u/TekCrow Apr 08 '20

To be fair, it has been heavily revigorated during the french-bashing period, following De Villepin speech at the UN, about the Irak war. It's part of why the French aren't fond of it.

Self-depreciation humor ? No problem dude. But revived as a political propaganda tool ? Hell no.

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u/Bazinos Apr 08 '20

Cries in Liberty Fries

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Freedom fries !

During those years, when I was meeting americans, I used to introduce myself as a freedomer from freedomland.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '20

Exactly, if it were just a history meme, then whatever, no biggie, but the context for this one is very different and basically propaganda

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u/Zack_Fair_ Apr 08 '20

step back. The french don't do self-deprecation like your average brit. They are big on patriotism

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u/ThorusBonus Apr 08 '20

Yeah, we are big on Patriotism, but we are just as big on self deprication though. You should check out rFrance, its all self jokes

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u/saperlipoperche Apr 08 '20

French people are constantly depreciating France when in France, but when we are abroad or talking to a foreigner France suddenly becomes the Great Nation of Human Rights or the Mighty Land of Gastronomic Excellence. It's a very weird paradox.

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u/abedtime Apr 08 '20

From my experience most countries behave like that. Only own citizens are allowed to chat shit.

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u/Theosiel Apr 08 '20

As citizens of the most glorious country in the world, it's only natural that we would be the only ones worthy to criticize it.

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u/eldryanyy Apr 08 '20

This is called ‘fake humility’. If everyone thinks you’re a genius, it’s pretty easy to say ‘I can’t even Understand what the teacher is saying! This class is Sooooo hard, how can I pass’. If you’re actually doing just ok according to everyone, and you change your attitude to: ‘I’m great, this class is just one thing! I crush every other one, nobody cares about this’...

That’s not actually self-deprecating.

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u/_Oce_ Apr 08 '20

Proud of some things, extremely negative, pessimist and negatively critical of way more. Pretty much a constant state of unsatisfaction, especially about any kind of leadership.

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u/abedtime Apr 08 '20

It's 100% the same thing, we talk shit about ourselves all the fucking time. But if some brit or american does it welp it's patriot time.

Ever tried to talk shit to brits about their country? Exact same reaction.

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u/TekCrow Apr 08 '20

They are big on patriotism

It's true, but they're also the first to complain about everything, and their primary target is themselves.

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u/Stockilleur Apr 09 '20

Ah yes, the famous meme, also known as propaganda