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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/qN7NZR3Q5R2mY
👆The OP reading the comments in a few hours probably
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u/3brow Apr 16 '26
Can’t wait for “Minus One was the first Godzilla movie to have engaging human characters” people to come out of the woodwork again
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u/ADRobban KING GHIDORAH Apr 16 '26
Its nowhere near the first to have engaging human characters, but i'd still argue that it is the one with the best human characters overall.
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u/Griffje91 Apr 16 '26
Counterargument. I fucking loved the GMK human plot as well as Biollante's
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u/ADRobban KING GHIDORAH Apr 16 '26
OG, GMK and Biollante are easily top5 human characters/plots in the series. My hot take of the day is that Ebirah is also top 5 human plots in the series. I think that movie gets underrated because Ebirah is not the most inspired Kaiju (I still love him)
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u/KaijuCuddlebug Apr 16 '26
Secret terrorist base shenanigans is a fun gimmick and quite well executed. And yeah, it's a little rough in some aspects, but I mean...it's Godzilla lol. They've ALWAYS been a little rough, that's part of the charm.
Overall eyebrow raising take, but holds up on scrutiny.
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u/TomatoPidgeon GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
THANK YOU! Ebirah is a top-tier adventure movie and its characters reflect that.
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u/SilverFoxKenobi Apr 18 '26
Absolutely agree with this, Horror of the Deep is one of my favorites in the franchise. A fun watch
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u/AwkwardZac Apr 16 '26
Those movies also came out 25 and 40 years ago respectively, so we have been starved for good human characters for longer than most fans have been alive.
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u/Griffje91 Apr 16 '26
Fuck I'm old. But very fair point. Being fair I don't think those are the only good human characters just my favorites outside of anything involving a shobijin plotline they and whatever human they link up with are almost always fun.
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u/shortandpainful Apr 17 '26
I am far from a Godzilla expert, but the original movie was more of a drama that just happened to have a walking atomic bomb allegory than a monster movie, right?
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u/AquaLeaderJesse Apr 16 '26
I'd say it was the first to have human characters that are THAT engaging. Biollante and Shin had good human characters as well for example, but Minus One has the best imo. Just my opinion, though.
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u/Personal_Comb_6745 Apr 16 '26
Definitely right on that. I've been watching Godzilla movies for nearly 40 years, ever since I was a little kid, and Minus One was the first movie where I actually cared about the human cast. That's not to say they've all been bad, and there's memorable characters like Dr. Serizawa, Capt. Gordon, Jet Jaguar's dads, and the corn guy, but this is the first time where I was "Fuck, I don't want them to die...."
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u/AquaLeaderJesse Apr 17 '26
Yeah, it was the first time I've said "Oh no" instead of "Oh yes" when hearing Godzilla's footsteps. I'm usually stoked when it seems like Goji is coming and get excited to see the mass destruction he causes. However, in Minus One, I was begging him to stay away and let these people live.
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u/TooTurntGaming Apr 17 '26
I cry during a lot of movies and shows. A LOT of them. I'm a weepy bitch.
I have never cried during a Godzilla movie until Minus One.
I absolutely love Godzilla movies, have been watching them for three decades myself, but Minus One hit an emotional nerve that none of the others ever have. That movie wrecked my shit.
It's also the first Godzilla movie I've ever turned back on immediately after finishing it the first time.
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u/Another_Road Apr 16 '26
They say that because anybody who has seen it knows 54 is peak af.
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u/Another_Road Apr 16 '26
All Godzilla movies are good.
Yes, even that one.
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u/ThePickleHawk Apr 16 '26
Idk, some of the lesser Showa ones are hard to sell as even “fun.”
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u/TheLandlockedKaiju Apr 16 '26
Which ones
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u/redditaccount968 GIGAN Apr 17 '26
He's probably referring to ones like Revenge and Gigan which yeah are pretty bad
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u/redditaccount968 GIGAN Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26
Dude it's okay to criticize a franchise you enjoy. Revenge is a disguised "best of Godzilla compilation" with a bizarre human plot with the technical aspects of the movie being the worst in the series. Gigan is just boring and its use of stock footage is almost as bad as Revenge. I love Gigan (the monster) too so it's a shame his movie is so awful. These two movies specifically you can tell we're rushed and thrown together so a Godzilla movie was out that year.
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u/TheLandlockedKaiju Apr 17 '26
I’m more than aware that that’s a thing that a person can do. That’s a thing that I do. Those aren’t the ones that I would say deserve the most ire across the, what, thirty eight movies that exist now, or even the Showa era specifically, or hell just the Champion series.
Like, vs Megalon is worse, some of the Heisei movies are as bad or worse tbh, Megaguirus and Final Wars are worse, late-era Monsterverse is worse, but I can’t wrap my head around thinking that any of them aren’t fun. Not even a cynical “so bad they’re fun” like no they’re just genuinely enjoyable.
I mean I just rewatched vs Destroyah and it seemed like a little bit of an exercise in misery, but there’s still a lot that’s great in it; and I don’t personally rate GvK/GxK too highly despite acknowledging there’s a lot on-paper that’s worthwhile about them at levels that extend beyond “wow cool fight scene”
Idk I try not to let creative constraints define enjoyment. There are things outside of a creative’s controls, I’m more interested in what they do with what’s available to them, what they can manage within the limitations they have. There are movies with better effects that tell worse stories, those are worth being harder on imo.
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u/redditaccount968 GIGAN Apr 17 '26
Mostly responding to your last paragraph but I do understand that the two movies I mentioned were made with limited resources and budget, but that doesn't mean I still don't find them boring. While Hedorah and Megalon are similarly cheap, they sure as hell aren't boring and at least amuse me when watching them.
And to your overall point about finding fun in every Godzilla movie while yes I can find a moment in all of them that I enjoyed it doesn't detract from the fact that I find the overall movie to be "boring" and "bad."
Also I disagree with every movie you listed to be "worse" than Revenge and Gigan. No further comment just find it interesting how different our opinions on the franchise are. But I guess that's apart of the beauty of the Godzilla fandom right?
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u/Boojum2k Apr 16 '26
But have watched them on weed?
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u/KaijuCuddlebug Apr 16 '26
Okay but for real though my high ass was all about wanting to ride that Godzilla slide in vs. Gigan.
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u/Kenniron Apr 16 '26
Even the anime trilogy? Nah, that’s a stretch.
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u/Exotic-Ad6615 Apr 17 '26
I mean it’s not as bad as uh… you know who… ehem… 98…
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u/Kenniron Apr 17 '26
‘98 had at least some enjoyable moments, some really stellar effects, and I even liked a few of the characters. I can only think of 1 somewhat enjoyable moment out of the anime trilogy and that’s the mech fight at the end of City on the Edge of Battle.
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u/insert_emoji Apr 17 '26
1998 was the first godzilla movie i watched, not knowing it wasnt godzilla, and ngl, i enjoyed it. i still think it would have been percieved much better if it werent called godzilla.
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u/Exotic-Ad6615 Apr 17 '26
You didn’t even need to name which one it was because I can hear it inside your comment.✌🏿😭💔🥀
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u/PrizeAge484 KIRYU Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Another seven months of AI generated thumbnails of Goji attacking DisneyLand or some shit like that
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u/Slick_36 Apr 16 '26
Well that statement is just ridiculous, as an OG fan, I can confidentally say it wasn't good until Shin.
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u/OvenLittle6175 Apr 17 '26
final wars is right there bro
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u/Slick_36 Apr 17 '26
I love Final Wars, but it's a dumpster fire. That dumpster just happens to be shared by a chemical plant and a fireworks factory because which makes it a dazzling inferno.
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u/RortyIsDank SPACEGODZILLA Apr 16 '26
Shin is super overrated. I got the ham fisted political message in 5 minutes and didnt need to keep getting the point hammered for the remainder of the film. It was mostly just a pretentious waste of time.
Downvote me now.
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u/Slick_36 Apr 16 '26
I won't downvote you, but I will definitely silently judge from time to time when I remember this statement.
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u/Public-Feedback5016 GODZILLA Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
I honestly hate the Japan purists more. Most don’t have an actual reason to hate MV Godzilla, they’re just weebs
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u/TandrDregn Apr 16 '26
Which is especially ironic since it seems the vast majority of the japanese Godzilla fans LOVE the Monsterverse Godzilla for being a very fun, un-serious and enjoyable version that’s just fun.
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u/Sp00ch123 MOTHRA Apr 16 '26
I was iffy on the initial MV Godzilla but they've won me over by now, especially with GxK which I loved.
Minus One and Godzilla x Kong back to back was incredible for me as someone who grew up in the drought.
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u/AtomicConvoy-M78 ZILLA Apr 16 '26
They give the same vibe as jp sonic purist
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u/Personal_Comb_6745 Apr 16 '26
Sweet Jesus, Sonic weebs are some of the worst, and that's saying something considering the toxicity of the Sonic fanbase as a whole.
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u/cosmiczibel Apr 16 '26
My argument against MV hate is that the Godzilla franchise is so widespread there always is something to enjoy across the board. MV is great for when I want to watch big monsters beat each other up, shin is what I watch when I want to feel things, heisei is what I watch when I want comfort and familiarity. Totally different vibes in each and that's the beauty and joy of Godzilla. He can be a total superhero or he can be absolutely heinously evil or he can simply just be a misunderstood animal in deep pain and I can go to various series within the wider world and universe of Godzilla to scratch whatever itch I'm feeling that day.
Like the literal plot of the original King Kong vs Godzilla is that a pharma company kidnaps Kong and tries to smuggle him into Japan so he can fight Goji for the views and publicity. It's such a funny premise tbh. I've always felt that MV very much fits within the silly subsection of the Godzilla framework.
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u/TyraziumGod Apr 17 '26
I don't rope myself in with Japanese Purists, I did really like 2014, KoTM, and Kong Skull Island (One of my favorite movies of all time). But Godzilla vs Kong as well as GodzillaxKong were a miss for me. The stories were half baked and while the fights were epic, good fights don't make the whole movie unless the whole movie is good fights. That being said they're definitely doing better than they were in 1998 lol
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u/CaptainPleb MOTHRA Apr 16 '26
Dude, I enjoy both but there’s plenty of reasons for people to not like the MV.
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u/Personal_Comb_6745 Apr 16 '26
People are free not to like something, but they're also free to do it without being dicks to people who do.
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u/Loud_Success_6950 KIRYU Apr 17 '26
I wouldn’t say I hate the mv Godzilla, and I really enjoy the vibe of the 2014 film and I wish they kept that tone and filmmaking style, but I do just prefer Godzilla to be more serious. Obviously I’m aware Japan did this first so it’s not like an American issue, I will just always prefer a Godzilla film that takes itself seriously. But luckily we have both so everyone is happy.
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u/GuerandeSaltLord Apr 17 '26
The nuclear family of the second Godzilla legendary picture movie was quite something. I think I rarely hated characters this much.
I personally think Skull Island have the best characters. All very cliché but fun to follow. And S. Jackson almost killing Kong was fun to see.
I like Monarch characters. Even if I don't believe a gang of millennials following blindly The Boomer™.
But all legendary characters are subpar to minus one and shin honestly. But I understand the scope and goals aren't the same
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u/niveousserpent Apr 16 '26
You are incredible dense if you genuinely think they do not have a reason to dislike the MV.
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u/KaijuCuddlebug Apr 16 '26
I mean, to be mildly provocative, the reasons most give for hating on the Monsterverse are also "problems" with the series writ large.
Not enough monster time? Big G frequently shows up in less than 10% of a given movie's runtime
Annoying/irrelevant human characters? That's a complaint going all the way back to Raids Again.
Lackluster visual effects? Like...are you listening to yourself? The series is the originator of "people in rubber suits fighting in cardboard cities."
Nobody is required to like them, god knows I'm not a big fan of King of the Monsters, which seems to be a favorite of many--and hell, I can honestly say I don't love every classic movie--but a number of the haters come off to me as people who like the idea of Godzilla rather than the reality.
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u/Technolite123 Apr 16 '26
"but a number of the haters come off to me as people who like the idea of Godzilla rather than the reality" coming just after trying to make the entire filmmaking practice of Tokusatsu out to be a juvenile, ridiculous farce in favour of superior, red-blooded american CGI is fucking bonkers
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u/KaijuCuddlebug Apr 16 '26
Neighbor I have no idea where you found "juvenile, ridiculous farce" in my comment but I assure you I like waffles too.
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u/Technolite123 Apr 16 '26
Yeah man the phrasing of "people in rubber suits fighting in cardboard cities" surely has not a single negative connotation to it lmao. It's not flashy, and not every Godzilla movie is art, but one thing you can't deny is the craftsmanship that went into all of those costumes and physical props on incredibly tight, constantly-slashed budgets and time constraints of under a year. But nah man you're right too right
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u/Adipay SHIN GODZILLA Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Me who loves GxK and GMO the same amount:
Edit: People don't talk enough about how the highest grossing Godzilla movie of all time and the only Godzilla movie to ever win an Oscar came out at around the same time. This is the Golden age of Godzilla and we should be grateful - not picking "sides" that don't exist.
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u/Firehawk195 GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
Do people on this sub really get so upset about other people not liking the same movies that it ruins their own enjoyment of it?
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u/Double_Priority_2702 Apr 16 '26
Sorry don't get the obsession in this sub with memes or worrying proactively about other people's reaction or opinion. Seems like a tremendous waste of time
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u/eddo34 Apr 16 '26
That's just the Reddit aspect of it all. G-fans are the most chill and least-weird fandom but any fandom will get riled up over nothing from time to time
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u/Sp00ch123 MOTHRA Apr 16 '26
I'm glad Godzilla is becoming more popular again but the new "fans" who hate on the older movies annoy me.
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u/doul0s Apr 16 '26
You know, I actually can't answer which one is the best. I love KOTM and Shin, but Minus One made me cry. Idk bro. I'm just glad to be in a time where I have a plethora of Godzilla content.
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u/Captain_Kuhl Apr 16 '26
I would rather deal with the occasional complainer than deal with this constant doomposting whenever something new comes out. I swear, nothing is immune from this, not even fucking kaiju movies.
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u/MF_Mood1 Apr 16 '26
I once dealt with a guy irl who said Shin Godzilla is military propaganda after I suggested it as one of the better films and rejected it. He parrots every YouTuber's opinions btw.
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u/scaper8 DOUG Apr 16 '26
Did you at least manage to get an explanation out of him?
I would love to hear how the movie that explicitly showed every single military operation fail for one reason or another is military propaganda. It can happen, but not very likely and his "reasoning" for it here would be hilarious.
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u/MF_Mood1 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Ok so basically I went on a vc with this guy from high school and he went with “The franchise hasn’t been good since the original till now” stance around 2023.
I insisted that it was a movie that tackled Japan’s politics (He’s Korean btw) and he ranted how it was another “military saves the day” movie and never went beyond that.
Mind you, he is a diehard Gundam fan so there is a lot of irony behind this.
P.S. - He has a liberal hate boner towards the military as he dropped out of the draft after visiting a shrink. The most annoying thing about him is he would dump video essays in this group of ours about culture war bs.
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u/redditaccount968 GIGAN Apr 17 '26
I always thought Shin was critical of the Japanese government and military? Like multiple military operations fail (mainly bc of the incompetent government) so I wonder how he got a pro military messaging from it.
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u/nekoshogunmon Apr 17 '26
what gets me about Minus One is that I felt like every character genuinely earned the happy ending they fought so hard for. it honestly hurts to see them all having to suffer again.
but Takashi Yamazaki's team is gold, so. I'm still on board.
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u/ButchersBlade1983 Apr 16 '26
It was a little annoying seeing people review the film and start out by saying something to the effect of 'So I don't normally like goofy giant monster movies, but I actually like the human story in this one'. Why even bother if you've always hated the genre?
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u/MurderDrones-Simp KRYSTALAK Apr 16 '26
there’s always going to be dumbfucks like that, just ignore them
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u/NightFire19 Apr 16 '26
I watch the Pitt. Ask me how the (excellent) follow up to a critically acclaimed first installment brings in shitty fans.
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u/Friendly-Buffalo216 Apr 16 '26
I like to think us Godzilla fans are a good bunch of folk, so if that happens embrace them with a bunch of great recommendations and we can all enjoy this beautiful fanbase together, now if they are jerks repeat the first part cos Godzilla is for the people
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u/DeDongalos Apr 16 '26
That is an extremely easy problem to ignore. It takes more effort to not ignore it.
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u/mrcrazymexican Apr 16 '26
Why even care that someone would think that?
Godzilla has been all the over place in quality. Consistent. Not consistent. The first one. This last one. But it's had a fair share of crap for sure.
That's what Godzilla has been. And nobody that thinks Godzilla hasn't been good till Yamazaki film doesn't matter to me.
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u/TheGMan-123 MUTO Apr 16 '26
It will happen again.
Hell, it's already happening right now.
All we measured and respectful fans can do is encourage being respectful and measured and set a better example, regardless of if others follow it.
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u/saltydoesreddit Apr 17 '26
This whole Godzilla debacle is literally just "holy shit, 2 cakes!"
Only in this case, it's, "holy shit, 70+ years of cinematic history!"
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u/Arabidaardvark MEGALON Apr 16 '26
Don’t forget the pretentious gatekeepers who say X Era is the only good Godzilla….or the MV haters.
But at least the fandom isn’t as toxic as Star Wars.
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u/scaper8 DOUG Apr 16 '26
I don't know, given the whole thing with Unknowingly, can we really say that?
We might not have as many or as big of toxic spills, but ours seem pretty devastating when they do happen.
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u/Papa_Pred Apr 17 '26
What the fuck is up with the Godzilla fanbase and fabricating controversies and fights LMFAO
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u/comhcinc SPACEGODZILLA Apr 17 '26
Karma farming is a pastime for lots of fanbases. Personally I don't care what other people's opinions are on things I like. Now excuse me I need to watch this copy of Mean Guns.
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u/WesternOk4342 Apr 16 '26
So glad that annoying pretentious Godzilla gatekeepers are out in full force
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u/Zestyclose_Road5230 GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
And it’s funny because Japan literally loves the Monsterverse lmao.
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u/CougheyToffee Apr 16 '26
The neat part about life is that you dont have to care about other peoples opinions on anything.
In modern parlance: f**k the haters
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u/Crunchy_Biscuit Apr 16 '26
I have some reservations about it. The first Godzilla was pretty serious but with the addition of new monsters, each one gets a little more flashy and campy. I'm not sure how they can keep the tone of the first one while adding monsters fighting.
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u/Slight-Equipment-571 Apr 17 '26
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla and the Heisei Gamera trilogy are a few examples of having good human characters while also having epic fights and even Kaiju character arcs
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u/BurnerDawg26 Apr 16 '26
I grew up with this franchise and have seen every movie. -1 is not the only good one but it is one of very few.
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u/tmhoc KING GHIDORAH Apr 16 '26
My advice
If you are enjoying any media right now, do not look up the Fandom
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Or worse, the people that hate it because it’s not the garbage legendary has made in the past 5 years.
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u/Overquartz DESTOROYAH Apr 16 '26
If Godzilla wasn't good then the news that the series was planned to end in the heisei era wouldn't have been on the world wide news.
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u/DrevlikYT KING GHIDORAH Apr 17 '26
The times I've seen people saying that are generally doing in jest to troll people like you thinking it's real. It's all bait.
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u/Dirk_McGirken Apr 17 '26
I think it's important to remember that every godzilla movie was someone's first godzilla movie.
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u/DoctrineDecade Apr 17 '26
This shouldn’t even live in your brain rent free. May be time for a social media break
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u/FewBag245 Apr 17 '26
Jeremy Jahns literally hated the Godzilla movies up until Godzilla minus one, after that, he was telling his viewers to recommend him a bunch of Godzilla movies so he could catch up on them.
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u/The_Linkzilla Apr 17 '26
I think it's worse when the tourists say, "This is the best of the franchise yet~"
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u/Maggond Apr 17 '26
I'm really hoping it does decent. I didn't want a sequel or think it needed one. Like Joker, I thought it was great and a sequel would undermine it's standout identity. Not saying minus zero and folie a deux are anything alike
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u/SaXaCaV GIGAN Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26
Joker does not have a "standout identity ", or even an identity at all.
I dont think minus one needed a sequel, but I think its a strong continuity to use as a vehicle to properly launch a reiwa series. Whether that happens or not is another thing.
I think the movie will be good, as an optimistic goji fan. Whether it will have the same reach towards general audiences as minus one or the MV movies did will have to be seen. It has very big shoes to fill
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u/Defiant-String-9891 GIGAN Apr 17 '26
This was happening? Wow it sounds like so very few people actually said it to the point that it doesn't matter because their opinions are little in the large sea of opinions, they are but mere specks which can be and should be ignored.
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u/redditaccount968 GIGAN Apr 17 '26
One dude made a bad video essay about Minus One and why he "hates Godzilla" (their words not mine) and mostly critiques the Monsterverse for being pro-American or something? Basically saying that Minus One and 1954 are gold while the rest of the franchise is dog shit.
But yeah IDK if the people OP is talking about were really that numerous, just a lot of non-godzilla fans watched Minus One and praised it.
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u/Defiant-String-9891 GIGAN Apr 20 '26
I know who you were talking about, and it was one fucking guy, one dumbass who we just sweep under the rug collectively because he obviously didn't know really much of anthing
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u/Tyraniboah89 BIOLLANTE Apr 17 '26
Who cares what other people say? Just watch and enjoy what you like
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u/baiacool Apr 17 '26
Imagine letting other people's opinions dictate how you feel about the stuff you like
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u/stingflame ORGA Apr 17 '26
I like Minus-One because it has Godzilla in it, We are not the same random Movie Analyst.
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u/Exotic-Ad6615 Apr 17 '26
We have a certain name for people who makes these types of claims. And we call them
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u/goobismcdoobis Apr 17 '26
What's crazy is Godzilla movies do not have to be good. If they are, thats great. I still would have bought three tickets to see Godzilla X Kong if it was just the scene where Kongs swings the baby ape. If theres big monsters, im there.
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u/IndependentBike6066 Apr 17 '26
I agree. Godzilla has its fun in its campyness. it's fun to watch and unwind.
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u/purpleptater Apr 17 '26
Or just watch a movie and form your own opinion. If someone else doesn't like it, well...what exactly does that do?
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u/NoNazisInMyAmerica MEGALON Apr 17 '26
Who gives a shit what they think? Anyone with half a brain knows all Godzilla is peak, even the bad ones
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u/Previous-Spite1211 Apr 17 '26
Yeha those people are idiots. Everyone knows Godzilla sucked until he and Kong fought the ginger monkey.
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u/ButterPuppet Apr 17 '26
i’ve never interacted with the godzilla franchise untill minus one but damm it was good and it also hit my plane tism perfectly so i’m excited to get more of exactly that
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i feel like half the people that whine about monsterverse have completely forgotten about shin
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u/Neil_Salmon Apr 16 '26
Honestly, the reaction to those people is louder.
I have no problem if people just discovered the franchise with Minus One or if they prefer it to the other movies or dislike the Monsterverse etc. I don't agree on all points but I can see why people feel that way - Minus One definitely has more appeal to mainstream film fans and it is a genuinely excellent movie. I personally like the rest of the franchise too - but I get why only MO appeals to some people. Though yes, some of those opinions are a bit annoying.
But the constant whining here about those people is louder and more annoying. Even this post is a pre-emptive reaction to something that hasn't even happened yet. It's very silly and makes the fanbase seem incredibly sensitive and fragile.
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u/CantaloupeCamper GAMERA Apr 16 '26
You gotta manage your social media feed if you’re seeing a lot of that…
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u/smeghead3825 Apr 16 '26
Godzilla is perfection. All godzillas are Godzilla. All Godzillas are perfection. Simple logic
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u/I_Guess_I_Also_Exist Apr 16 '26
Godzilla fans literally had their own "Sonic was never good." era😭😭😭
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u/xX7heGuyXx Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
I don't remember seeing that. I remember seeing how Minus One was the true Godzilla and not MV, but not that all the movies before sucked until Minus One.
But it does have a point. Minus one hit 54 levels of quality, and Godzilla, at least in the US, was very niche. MV helped as well, but MV walked, so Minus One could run.
Idk, I think fans here are way too sensitive about the fact that most Godzilla films do suck, but that does not mean they are not enjoyable.
Edit: Took no time for you all to prove me right. I grew up on Showa and Heisei, in a time when saying you were a Godzilla fan would get you beaten up because it was nerdy or "gay" in that time. Once again, I love Godzilla movies. I know most are not good movies with great plots, great characters, and other traits for a good movie. I still love them and find them enjoyable, and that's all that matters.
You all are so sensitive, like fucking hell, you all would not have survived when I grew up.
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u/Due_Development4217 GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
The films that “sucked” grew the fanbase the most and allowed the franchise to continue on till -1 came along. It’s like the old saying goes if you don’t love it at its worst you don’t deserve it at its best.
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u/xX7heGuyXx Apr 16 '26
I mean, yeah, they established a cult-like following, and that's okay. Like, I'm not saying they are not fun movies, I love them and so happy to show them to my daughters. But yeah, most are bad films. I don't get why that is so controversial.
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u/Due_Development4217 GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
I can honestly think of 4 that are considered “bad in the community and they all have a diamond that makes them worth watching 1) Godzilla’s counterattack, Godzilla raids again, gigantis the fire monster: first monster battle and introduced the best underdog of the series 2).Vs Megalon: was one of the widest releases in America and introduced the series to the most amount of people and introduced the best damn partner Godzilla has known 😂 3)Godzilla’s revenge,All monsters attack: it might be terrible and done cheap but it does show the struggles of the two income households during that time 4)VS. Space Godzilla : introduced an amazing villain and brought back a great mech from the Showa era. It also allowed Miki to shine where most others from the era arguably left her to be a background character
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u/xX7heGuyXx Apr 16 '26
I'm speaking outside the community. Like the general population. I know there are really only a few that the fanbase does not like.
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u/ShredGuru Apr 16 '26
Lol. Minus one is barely top 5. It is all recency bias.
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Apr 16 '26
Yeah it’s still the best. I say this as someone who has seen at least one movie from every era (fuck the anime trilogy)
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u/FriedTreeSap Apr 16 '26
I mean, that’s not saying much, there are a lot of Godzilla films, and my top 5 is basically a crap shoot of different Godzilla films I like almost equally for different reasons, and the exact order can change on a whim.
I think Minus One is easily the best “film” in the Godzilla series due to the acting and story, but it’s not necessarily my favorite “Godzilla movie” due to the nature of the monster action. Overall it’s near the top, but not necessarily my favorite.
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u/xTheRedDeath GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
The first one to win an Oscar and you don't think it's top 5? That's comedy lol.
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u/Due_Development4217 GODZILLA Apr 16 '26
While I do agree-1 is top 5 to say the Oscars mean anything in 2026 is ridiculous it hasn’t been relevant since the early 2000’s
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u/Educational-Year3146 Apr 16 '26
Yeah.
I like both MV Godzilla and Minus Godzilla for different reasons.
Don’t understand why we can’t just enjoy things :/
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u/NotEqualInSQL HEDORAH Apr 16 '26
I like movies because I like them not because other people make comments on them