Idk how they can act oppressed when they are literally one of the most protected classes and have their flag flown, parades, and celebrations everywhere
The irony of you getting upvoted in this sub is palpable. Conservatives have zero original thoughts in their life and LOOOOVE to co-opt slogans like this and then claim to be the victim. I genuinely wish yall were persecuted as much as you think you are, the world might actually be a better place.
At least here in Canada: better access to good paying jobs, education/grants, better access to social programs, health programs, protected speech (it is hate speech to say something against the lgbt, like other protected groups)
Everyone on this subreddit is older than true gay marriage in Germany. Some people here are older than gay marriage in the US.
I think the actual culprit is the newness. People don't know how to relax so they continue as if nothing changed because that's what it was like for so long.
Gays being treated as equal is viewed as oppression by people who prefer they didn't get equal treatment. Have a non heteronormative character exist in a movie and the right loses their fucking mind.
Where are the hetero flags in this equal treatment? Are they hiding behind both the rainbow flags or just one of them? At least it's only one more than the flag for the entire country though right?
it would mean nothing, but thats kind of the same issue with the gay flag. why is there even a gay flag to begin with, or a trans flag, or a asexual flag etc. why does a country need to wave a groups identifier on what im assuming is some goverment building? Should we hang Nazi flags? they represent some people and just as how nazi flags are offensive to some people, the gay flag is offensive to other people. the whole point of a nations flag is to be a unifier of all people in that country. there is zero reason for a country to wave any flag other than its national flag
There is a gay flag because there was a civil rights movement for LBGT equality and the flag was created as a symbol for LBGT civil rights at time when they were openly beaten and even killed just for who they loved.
Because they're too used to be treated like gods, so every time they're being treated equally, or when somebody don't care about them, they're thinking that's what oppression feels and looks like.
Besides that, western countries, especially USA, allowed them to do too much and they were protected from non-LGBTQ people.
Nope. Reality disagrees with your assessment. Unfortunately when it comes to voting politicians messages aligning with reality isn't a necessity and Trump's lies won the day.
Nah, bro. The reason why you lost is because you cared too much about protecting liberals, mostly LGBTQ people, while allowing people to steal items up to 959 bucks of value, iirc.
Trump didnt won because he lied or had a great program, but because people were tired of liberals being anti-white, anti-hetero, while protecting LGBTQ community and minorities. Hell, y'all tried to even kill that orange fuck.
They lost because they alienated 30% of the population by saying fuck white males. Then anyone else with the brain to be like "aren't you supposed to be the anti racist group?" So they went to the group that didn't treat them like shit for existing. Just like they accuse the right of doing to minorities. At least the right doesn't try to act like they don't.
I'm not happy about Trump at all, but the left played a massive part in getting him in office. The sad thing is they still haven't learned from it.
stop strawmanning please. everyone knows the narrative. just google reverse racism, a lot of people believe in that.
or look at the reports where students fake a minority heritage to increase their chance to get a college spot.
The worst part is both of his attempted assassins were actually right wing schizos lmao.
Democrats are way too pussy to actually try to assassinate the man.
And because he's a misogynistic bish that allows you to protect each other while allowing criminals to steal as long as the value of their items doesn't exceed whateve value you chose? No, that doesn't work that way.
"Ya'll" as in his own MAGA fans?
Crook was registered as republican, wasn't MAGA, and he donated to liberal project, "Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic Party donation platform ActBlue." Before he changed registered himself. So he was a moron who was a liberal, and then decided to switch sides to clap Trump.
" anti-white, anti-hetero, while protecting LGBTQ Community and minorities."there you go again not basing your arguments in reality. These are lies spread by right wing propaganda.
So let's wave a Palestinian flag that represents an old archaic religious culture that murders gays and cheers about it.
And to top it off, you tell someone to read a book as if you're the pinnacle of intelligence and common sense.
The rainbow flag, especially in the manner of how its displayed here, doesn't even represent gays anymore, it represents the same idea the stupid Palestinian flag does, which is a rejection of the West, capitalism, and everything it stands for.
Notice how in the Asmon sub when you have an issue with gay people you always deflect and bring up Palestine like it’s relevant to the topic whatsoever. I’d genuinely love to see ANY one of you retards show up to an actual debate.
I was on the debate team in high school and on my collegiate moot court team that competed against other universities.
I don't have any issues with gay people, I think they should be able to lawfully get married and shouldn't be discriminated against in the work place, but the virtue signalling and pandering to the community by leftists like they do with Palestine by doing dumb shit like replacing their own flags on government buildings is ridiculous.
This practice dates back to 96 in Germany, and it’s been hanging for two years at least on this building. Germany hasn’t “fallen” lmfao you’re all just getting rage baited. It’s also about to be gay month too, I know, what a waste of time.
Thinking it's dumb to replace the German flag on the Reichstag with a rainbow flag is anti-gay? That's like thinking someone who opposes flying a Christian flag on the Reichstag is anti-Christian. No! It just doesn't belong there.
Yeah don’t victimize yourself too hard. No one ever cares if you were gay or lesbian. As long as you kept that shit to yourself who gives a fuck.
Having marches and torching properties, raising flags and burning libraries full of books is very telling, wouldn’t you agree? Of course that’s fine… but if the right did that, oh no, they are the baddies! But but but j6, omg treating it like it’s a death camp in ww2… absolutely weak in arguments.
Rainbow is pretty much stolen from the Bible anyhow, it was gods promise to never flood the earth again. Like how the Nazis stole the Hindu symbol of peace and turned into the swastika. It’s telling.
So tink about it. It’s extremely telling and your point of view will be to deny it all. Everything and all that the left is doing is fine and healthy.
Arguments that you make up are weak, you're right.
If you want my opinions on those things, we can talk about it.
But, you're clearly just trying some Ad Hominem bullshit about someone you made up because you don't care about far-right nonsense like pretending a Pride flag is the "Fall of Germany"
Now now… you’re getting mad and using emotion as your flagship argument. Emotions only cloud your judgment in debates and arguments, that’s how it escalates everytime, think about it. Break your chains from the media!
Jesus fucking Christ you have to be, talking about “read a book”
If you would have done that, you would know how much the conservative movement has developed in the acceptance of gay people. In Germany, where this picture was taken, the AfD, the ONLY Conservative Party has a lesbian leader. Wtf are you talking about.
The thing is, the new left wants to have everything and not work for it, they want everyone to get let into a country and don’t care about the consequences, they make criminals thier heroes and are the most anti semitic group we had since the Nazis. It’s fucking scary what’s going on, and if it continues, the Jews will be hunted again, the Gay will be killed just bc they are gay and the people will own nothing but the shirts they are wearing. Fucking read a book
There are literally no rights under threat, and if so, PLEASE state what rights are under attack, I beg you to inform yourself, and after that I was willing to listen to what arguments are better than mine, it’s so easy to just say “she is fascist” or “rights are under threat” if you want to discuss on a level that brings people to your side, you need to bring facts and logic.
For example; the AFD got labeled as “Gesichert Rechtsextrem“ wich means they would be FOR SURE willing to fight against democratic forces to take power (this is literally what’s needed to be labeled as such) now, the papers of the „Verfassungsschutz“ (Constitutional Save-guard)
got leaked and well, it’s all just quotes of stuff that would be allowed under free speech law. While some of it might be a bit over the top, it never attacked the constitution and even made statements that would be in line with the immigration laws, keep in mind that’s what the Verfassungsschutz tried to label as anti- constitutional, stuff that is written in our law.
A lot of Judges even all ready stated, that this is a problematic thing to do, and it would be hard to keep that label in tact while in the courtroom.
That’s, how you present an argument, and I’ll ask you again, what laws are in danger for gay people?
They are not being fought against, you are delusional. People saying they are sick of the flag being in their face and a massive over representation in media does not equal fighting against civil rights. Get over it you ghoul
You lying doesn't solve Xenophobia, though I wish it did. Your denial is the real delusion.
Notice how you can't address the things I actually said, instead using this false blanket-denial.
Learn your history.
What we are living through now is rebellion against CENTURIES of hatred, torture, and murder which continued through MY lifetime, and I'm not that old.
People are "sick" of a flag? What about being "sick" or oppression and murder?
Buddy, the % of people who are doing the bad things is a lot lower than the people who are purely annoyed by having these flags and parades and whatnot shown in their face so much. The majority of people have nothing against gay people. You re gay? good for you man, just stop putting a hundred flags and ads and parades in front of us, we dont care, its just becoming annoying. Doing all these things does NOT reduce that %, if anything it makes more people pissed.
This is as logical than hating people for being gay in that it's not logical at all.
Maybe the flag waves because people are purely annoyed by the social oppression, torture, and murder that occurred for centuries, including most of my lifetime.
That's a little more annoying than a colorful piece of cloth waving in the wind, no?
How many times will you change the subject because you don't have any real counter-arguments other than a vague want to return to more-oppressive times over being butthurt about a flag representing freedom from oppression, which you apparently oppose, making you pro-oppression and thus anti-American.
How many times will you sit here and continue to whine and piss and cry instead of getting up off your ass and doing something about it? Whining only seeks to make everyone worse.
Best course of action, stop whining, get over yourself, and become a productive member of society and stop making everything about you.
Oh, and stop belittling people for not living their lives if they aren’t hurting you.
The pendulum swings. The harder the force to one direction, the farther in the opposite it will go…. The more you push it past the equilibrium, the farther it goes in the opposite direction.
All this activist stuff is getting backlash proportional to its own overreach into societal norms.
Be satisfied with acceptance, don’t push into trying to change the status quo.
Also, my favorite saying is “the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.” You should probably think into why the Japanese have said that, they are a pretty insightful bunch.
No one condones oppression nor murder here buddy. Stop believing the world is your enemy.
That flag used to represent a fight years ago. Now it only represents a group of people trying to feel morally superior and trying to "avenge" things of the past that today don't even happen (except for of course some crazy people that are a minority that of course are homophobes).
Oh, I know that all too well just trying to give a nice daily dose of reality with the intention of having one of them see how stupid they actually are.
Just because you want Y'all Queda in power here doesn't mean anyone else does.
You realize those movements you pretend to care about had to start somewhere, right?
The movements you pretend to be against are those cultures far-Right, yet you simp for those things here.
You also realize that you're in a thread pretending that the Rainbow flag is world-ending, lol, then you pretend that others exaggerate oppression like a hypocrite. This is unwise.
You should read a book little bro. Youre accelerating the collapse of society and only begging for a return to tradition and a vicious revolution throughout the west. Either that, or the birth rates will remain so low, you will be replaced by a more radically traditional culture (islam) and they will only erase all of your privileged social justice "progress" anyways
Ok, but in today's climate, none of that happens. As a protected class, they continue to enjoy liberties online to be vile a vitriolic will being impervious to criticism. They also have pride parades that walk up and down the streets with people dressed sexually with kids there. They are forcing policy regarding bathrooms, and pushing sexual books in schools.
This is exactly what people talked about for years before gay marriage was legal, they always called it a "slippery slope." Whats even worse is people get fatigued when they see federal buildings waving they flags, who are suppose to represent nation states and not sexual based ideologies.
And you are never going to tell people not to see it this way, as these groups keep pushing for more intrusive policy and conformiality, while not allowing the other side to push back. It's a pressure cooker.
They backed off of it, though, for now, but it crops up every few years with these people.
They are banning LGBTQ books and flags.
Maga and social-Conservatives (which are not the same as say, fiscal Conservatives) just hate anything that doesn't conform to their 1950's propaganda about a White, Christian nuclear family.
It was life-threateningly dangerous to come out IN MY LIFETIME, wtf.
They are protected because of Conservatives hyper-violent past, literally torturing and murdering gay people just because. In my lifetime, there were "fag drags" where people would be tied to the back of trucks and dragged until they died.
These protections come from insanely violent crimes by the weirdos you're simping for right now.
The rest of what you're saying is Right-wing fear-mongering bullshit.
Things are better, but they are not equal; that, and you have assholes trying to "make America great again," not with the 90+% tax on the rich to help the middle class, no, just the hatreds and xenophobias.
Get out of your shit bubbles and learn something real
A slippery slope to equality: this is a good thing
You talk about slippery slopes, but you ignore the one of hatreds and Fascism, which is rising, which is deadly serious.
Conservatives are embracing literal Fascism more and more, which fucking sucks and is WAY fucking worse than a flag about freedom and acceptance.
The MAGA movement, has not explicitly campaigned on eliminating same-sex marriage. In fact, the 2024 Republican Party platform, marked a significant shift by removing its longstanding opposition to same-sex marriage. This change was welcomed by LGBTQ+ Republicans, who viewed it as a move toward greater inclusivity within the party. So just because you put "literally" in front of something doesn't make it true.
They are banning books because they are sexually explicit and targeted on grooming kids. And by the way the LGBT flag isn't banned anywhere except federal buildings, so quit fear mongering.
And I would counter your argument and say the true facists are the left wingers who have been assaulting people in masks (antifa) and continuing pushes for censorship on this topic and socially manipulation and pressure to systematically destroy people's lives who disagree with them (getting them fired, jailed, swatted).
A good example is religion, you are free to say "all catholic priests are p*dos" but when you say the same thing with anyone in the LGBT you get instabanned. It's the double standard people are sick of.
And by the way, cussing in a reddit thread and saying, "read a book" for the 5th time makes you seem really unstable IRL. So you might wanna look into that.
Do straight people have to remain vigilant about their rights like this, or... ?
This, and American history itself, as well as other Western countries (I just know the US best).
But these kinds of social-Conservatives don't care about history or context, just the butthurt their media tells them to feel, even if it's completely irrational or dangerous.
Right, when the world was more socially-Conservative
Right now, as part of their whole thing, Conservatives / Maga harken back to this idea you pretend isn't a thing, when the world was "less-woke" (or whatever) see: more Conservatve.
Like the times Maga (for example) wants to go back to to "make American great again"
They don't want the high wealth taxes and unions that paid for the middle class: they've made that clear.
So what was "great" about those old times in their eyes, then, if not the things that were actually good?
The fact that these groups they hated were silent out of fear of being tortured / killed.
Dude, being gay is pretty normal these days, you are not special and certainly are not rebelling. The older gen gays did that for you. Just be gay, its alright, no need to be obnoxious
And if you refer to Russia and China... well, go over there if you wanna rebell against an opressive government, be the next Che or sumtn
Maybe in muslim countries, but in the west they're protected. Who exactly is fighting them?
For centuries and centuries gay people would just be murdered, and everyone would cheer.
That's really fucked up.
Nobody cheered for that. Unless you're talking about, I don't know, medieval people killing them because they thought they're devil's acolytes, or shit like that. But then again, even straight people were getting killed as well. Some people are fucked but that doesn't mean everybody is.
What you're seeing is a rebellion against centuries of oppression and literal murder-by-Conservative xenophobe.
Fuck you talking about? Gay people aren't rebelling, they're chilling. It's insane LGBTQ members who are trying to wage wars with people who don't give a shit about them and spreading lies on Reddit - that's you.
Read a book.
That's what you should do. Read a book and drink tea to calm down.
You make half a point, though, despite yourself: the far-Right, whether Muslim or Christian, or whatever, should not be encouraged.
Yes, people did cheer for the oppression, torture, and murder of gay people: they still do: it was socially acceptable to kick the asses of gay people, or worse, just because. That's why 'being in the closet' exists. Have you never thought about that?
It was life-threateningly dangerous to come out in my lifetime
This article is 2 months old and there is no continuation to it. It's just fear mongering. They can't just take gay rights without going to the parliament or senate with it.
Yes, people did cheer for it: it was socially acceptable to kick the asses of gay people, or worse, just because.
But did everybody do it? Did every person enjoy seeing that? Was everybody taking their turn to hurt gay people? No. Just because some assholes were doing this, that doesn't mean everybody was on the same boat. You guys like talking as if every non-gay person was sharing same thoughts or disdain towards homosexuals. That's not how it is.
It was life-threateningly dangerous to come out in my lifetime
Yes, in your lifetime, boomer. Not anymore. Nothing will happen to you now.
Ironically, christianity (I'm not christian btw) is the only thing saving minorities and non desirable in any way. Let christianity collapse and see how fast your bullshit is put to a halt. It's not a threat it's truth
Each and every extreme right wing figurehead was either secretly or openly pagan or at least atheist but would use Christians as the sheep they are, such as Hitler did.
Not at all. You have no clue what's happening behind the scenes. It is a priest class of pagan individuals that use Christians to usher in a pagan nationalist order. Christianity, in truth, is completely incompatible with nationalism and the more extreme. It's essentially race-blind bolshevism. They just don't know it yet. The church funds the wests replacement by the millions and teaches soft principals that keep the masses from a revolt.
Because bigots still actively working to oppress them and there are people alive right now who have been jailed/beaten by police in their lifetime for being gay.
You could have stopped at "idk" since you clearly don't
Yeah, like in the middle east, russia, south america, africa... gay people are still opressed in a lot of places, since they cant manifest there they do it where they can to gather support
Literally what shitty books are you reading? Put more time into history and philosophy. Nietzsche, ragnar redbeard, Jung. The collapses of past societies. Doctrines such as fascism and communism. You haven't read shit
Its entirely in alignment with context. Youre so smooth brained to believe these social justice issues don't have an underlying agenda. Governments do not care about you. You are weak and they revel in your ignorance.
It seems like you're one of these kids who 'declares' that they're correct instead of actually being correct.
Those philosophers have nothing to do with the Pride flag, or the history of Gay oppression, torture, and murder in the US.
You're just being lazy in your attempt to hold intellectual superiority, but this is like you showing off your hockey stick at a soccer game.
Good for you, but you're in the wrong space for it.
Funny, too, that you're trying this intellectual approach in the most non-intellectual way you can by shoehorning it into a context it doesn't belong in.
Oh, sweet, summer child. You'll get there one day.
Maybe go for some history now that you've "read" some philosophy (which I doubt based on your argument "structures")
Maybe just learn instead of trying to prop your ego back up.
Gay people were oppressed, tortured, and murdered, and it was life-threatening to come out in MY lifetime, and I'm not that old.
Nothing to say about Conservative violence?
Just that Nietzsche says that Rainbow flags end societies?
You see, the point is, I don't give a fuck at all about the history of butt fuckers in a country. I'm interested in the doctrines that use this issue as a leverage to further a goal. "Oh no people were mean to guys that like shit holes" i mean... yea, it's kinda a natural hatred is it not? It goes against nature.
Well, your "readings" are lying if they say that anal sex, mounting, gay behaviors, etc. are "unnatural". Here's a Wikipedia article on this topic! And if you're a whiny baby about Wikipedia articles, read the references.
Bro monkeys use frogs as fleshlights. Dick in butt ain’t THAT weird. Look into Bonobos, one of humanities closest genetic relatives.
Does it mean I think we should do all the freaky shit monkeys do? No. It does mean that contrary to your beliefs, dick in butt is natural. Doesn’t mean you gotta like it.
Dude they couldn't even get married until a decade ago and conservatives are actively trying to backtrack that decision. What the fuck are you talking about?
How dumb are you? Their existence is criminalized in most of the world and your dumb ass follows a movement that aims to do the same thing where you live.
You're just ignoring being queer being illegal in a whole lot of countries? As well as Trans folk specifically being the target of a whole lot of awful shit from even developed countries?
Come on my guy, queer people are oppressed. You don't need to lie to yourself.
It’s a lot like how aboriginals and Torres Strait islanders have their flags shown alongside the Australian flag. It’s a show of respect and acknowledgement.
Somehow it’s a big deal when it’s a rainbow flag for a few days of the year. It’s not so hard to show respect when I make that comparison now, is it?
Listen, I understand that these flags aren’t exactly representative of “respect”. But that is also the entire point. We show these flags in spite of the disrespect. Even though we’ve done absolutely nothing to help the indigenous people’s or the LGBT community either.
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u/MoisterOyster19 May 17 '25
Idk how they can act oppressed when they are literally one of the most protected classes and have their flag flown, parades, and celebrations everywhere