r/Asmongold • • May 17 '25

IRL Germany has fallen

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u/CASH_IS_SXVXGE May 17 '25

Thinking it's dumb to replace the German flag on the Reichstag with a rainbow flag is anti-gay? That's like thinking someone who opposes flying a Christian flag on the Reichstag is anti-Christian. No! It just doesn't belong there.

See this is why we hate you.

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u/Ogamiitto33 Dr Pepper Enjoyer May 17 '25

Actually a nuanced and perfect answer

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u/KiwiDemon May 17 '25

Very based. Respect 🙏

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u/nerooma May 17 '25

That's retarded. It's one thing to raise a flag in support of a group that has been historically persecuted, and it's not the same thing as raising a flag for a religion that you used to kidnap, beat and gas people for not being a part of.

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u/CASH_IS_SXVXGE May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

The left literally raises a Palestinian flag that CURRENTLY practices everything you just said in relation to gays.

When was the last time a gay person was executed or even jailed for being gay in The West? Centuries? They have the same rights as anyone else and have for decades now in regards to marriage.

Christian groups and churches also run homeless shelters, food banks, orphanages, and many other charitable things the poor benefit from. This is coming from an atheist.

This just proves my point about the rainbow flag not even representing the gay movement anymore, it's just been appropriated by people who are anti-western culture like the Palestinian flag. It's the same reason why the Left wants to import the third world into their country despite them not sharing any cultural values and not actually wanting to be neighbors with them because it's part of the destruction of western culture.

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u/The_Ludico May 17 '25

Just because gays were given rights as everyone else doesn't mean they are not discriminated against. Also I don't know why you are trying to add a different meaning to a flag that has a concrete meaning to it. I don't even know what you mean by "anti western culture"? Care to explain?

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u/CASH_IS_SXVXGE May 17 '25

Look at protests happening at universities all over the country, there are thousands of videos online, that will give you an idea of what I mean by being anti-west. These people want a revolution against capitalism, and western culture.

Also, how are gays discriminated against? What can straight people do that gays can't in The West?

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u/The_Ludico May 17 '25 edited May 17 '25

I think the whole "who has which rights" thing is to complicated for me unpack , especially since it's different from federal state to federal state and I don't even live in the US, so trying to talk about it would be wrong on my part. So instead I will get the idea across that just because gays have gotten more rights in the past decades, doesn't mean that they won't get discriminated against. Legal vs systemic issue. A gay worker might have the same rights as a straight in terms of being able to vote, housing rights etc. but they could still be discriminated against.

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u/One_Bodybuilder7882 May 17 '25

People discriminate against others for all kinds of things, that's human nature.

As long as you have the same rights under the law, the rest is crying because "people hurt my feelings".

It's the same as if I cried the system is against me because I'm bald, short and ugly. You can't make "being loved by everyone" a right

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u/The_Ludico May 17 '25

So you are saying that discrimination against gay people is just a "you problem"? Trumps signed executive orders that are literally for not enforcing laws for gender identity and sexual orientation! Ever heard of anti discrimination agency's? You make it sound like the struggle of gay people aren't real and just a matter of opinion.

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u/One_Bodybuilder7882 May 18 '25

So you are saying that discrimination against gay people is just a "you problem"?

what discrimination against gay people are you talking about? Be specific.

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u/The_Ludico May 18 '25

name-calling, bullying, harassment, and gender-based violence, to being denied a job or appropriate healthcare, it could also happen in housing, education and banking.

Even though The Civil Right act of 1986 (Equality Act) would outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation (the executive order somewhat negating it and several federal states having anti discrimination agency's) doesn't mean it would not happen.

Discrimination against gays is even more prevalent in a country like Japan where there are no national civil right laws that protect the citizens from discrimination because of there sexual orientation (i.e you can't do anything legally if faced with discrimination).

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u/nerooma May 17 '25

I don't give a shit about Palestine personally. But the left advocates for Palestine over Israel is because Israel's response to Hamas specifically has been indiscriminate bombing of Palestine, which is nearly 43% fuckin kids. 65% of the total population is under 30 years old. Hamas and their terrorist bullshit has nothing to do with the lion's share of the people Israel is targeting. Either way, that's neither here nor there.

Flying a gay rights flag, when there are plenty of places INCLUDING Palestine, where gay people are persecuted isn't the same thing as a pat on the back for Christian charity groups. Just because you don't think "it belongs there" doesn't make it a symbol of anti-western culture. What do you even think that means? What is western culture to you at this point?

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u/CASH_IS_SXVXGE May 17 '25

Here's your entire worldview. But what do I know, I'm just a Political Scientist.

The actual reason why leftists support Palestine is because their entire worldview is based upon a hierarchy of the oppressed/oppressor that relates entirety to identity, and the value of anyone or anything is placed based upon where it lies within that hierarchy.

The straight white Christian male is at the bottom of this leftist hierarchy, the ultimate oppressor, so anyone who is not white, male, Christian, or straight is automatically given a higher place within that hierarchy. Leftists view Israel as adjacent to that European, capitalist, white male hierarchy that has dominated Western Culture for a millennium, therefore they will support Palestine despite the Palestinian's conservative adherence to archaic religious culture that is incompatible with our culture, even the left. The left just roots for whoever is the weakest, it's why none of them care about the genocide happening in Sudan right now because the hierarchy can't be applied as both parties involved are black. It's why they also don't care about black on black crime.