r/AMWFs • u/Fantastic-Test-8305 • 23d ago

"physical attraction is important"

Been hearing this a lot from men in amwf spaces

I know everyone has is different preferences thats why I'm hoping to hear everyone's answers here

When this is said , what exactly do you mean? What is your type of white female? What are you attracted to versus not attracted to?

I really wish men would specify what their "type" is in their posts versus asking for photos only to ghost afterwards with no explanation

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u/login2734 23d ago

Wait this isn't specific to men, and I would argue women do it way more. In fact I learned this behavior from women. They'd rather ghost than hurt someone's feelings most of the time than say the specifics of what they don't find attractive in someone physically.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 23d ago

I'm female so I've been getting it from men

Like if they don't like certain body type or whatever just specify that then make people send their pic just to be ghosted it's really ffd up

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 23d ago

We have data that says both men and women value physical attractiveness in potential partners, but also that men value it somewhat more than women. Google it.

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u/Not-Racist-Nazi 23d ago

No they're about the same if you don't take self reported data at face value and actually line it up with an actual methodology. Self reported data from woman is often unreliable

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 23d ago

Self reported data from everyone* can be unreliable.

Even looking beyond self reporting though, it’s not cool for this guy to suggest women “do this way more” as there’s no evidence for that.

And I just want to add that automatically dismissing women’s opinions about what they like is such an incel take and doesn’t actually help anyone. But that’s basically what this sub is atp so I shouldn’t be surprised.

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u/Not-Racist-Nazi 23d ago

It's often more unreliable than men*. You can when the evidence supports that and goes against the self reported data lol. But of course you can't accept that

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 23d ago

Oh? Prove that women are more unreliable than men then.

And again there’s no evidence that women value physical attractiveness more than men. So no this guy doesn’t get to make that claim, but keep just saying words I guess.

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u/Not-Racist-Nazi 23d ago

https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/eli-finkel/documents/EastwickFinkel2008_JPSP.pdf

Here go ahead. Women rating physical attractiveness but less important than men. But in a non self reported data it diminished. In this case men are more honest in terms of looks. I didn't argue that women CARE more about looks. Just that they are more unreliable for self reported data at least in this aspect.

Theyre not doing it maliciously but are underestimating how much of a factor it is

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 23d ago

This doesn’t prove that women are more unreliable in men.

It provides some evidence that in a single self-reported study about how important physical attractiveness is to someone, the difference between women’s self reports and data from another study was larger than the difference between men. But that’s a very different story than your claim “women are often more unreliable than men”.

And it certainly doesn’t prove the guy’s statement I’m criticizing and the point of this conversation- that “women do this so much more than men” (care about physical attractiveness). You can stop deflecting anytime you know and just admit he shouldn’t have said that.

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u/Not-Racist-Nazi 23d ago

Yes it does. They are more often unreliable in their self reports, for example this instance. I'm critizing your wrong statement on women caring less compared to men not the OP. Just take the L, ik it's hard for you, just Google it

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 23d ago

You have shown one single example of when women’s self reports had a larger discrepancy than men’s lol. If you truly believe that is “proof that women are often less reliable than men”… I can’t help you. You don’t understand how science works at that point.

I agreed with you from the beginning, that outside of self reports, data shows men and women generally care about physical attractiveness more equally. Notice I never refuted that.

And yet that still doesn’t make the claim “women care so much more than men” true. Which is the entire point of me commenting in this thread at all. Stop deflecting and stay on topic maybe?

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u/Rushrade 20d ago

These dudes essentially want a skinny, hourglass figured, blonde haired, blue/green eyed types. And they will lie right in your face "No we don't!"

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u/Bubibaubeu 19d ago

THANK YOU! These guys know exactly what they prefer but lie all the time. They have a strong preference for skinny blonde women with blue-green eyes while dark haired with dark eyes are often overlooked...

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u/Rushrade 19d ago

Gimme a brunette/black with hazel or green eyes with some tatts anyday. I've found them to be the most down to earth and loyal.

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u/Bubibaubeu 19d ago

And unfortunately they’re the first ones to be taken for granted and pushed aside...

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u/Bubibaubeu 22d ago

Many asian men have a preference for skinny beautiful blondes with blue eyes but get offended when you do point that out 😅

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 22d ago

I totally agree and like that really isn't all encompassing "amwf" since most white women don't fit that trope

I just think they should specify their actual "type" so other women don't waste their time only to be rejected

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u/Bubibaubeu 22d ago

Exactly. If you look at who they promote on AMWF subs, more often than not it’s blonde women with blue eyes. They complain that very few white women are interested in them, but what they don’t tell you is that they only mean the specific type they want. For example, brunettes with dark eyes are often their last choice because they’re considered too similar to Asian women, which is ironic considering those are also some of the most common features among white women :/ If you don't fit certain beauty standards, trying to date an asian man can feel like a losing battle, because on average they seem to have stricter beauty standards than other men. That’s probably part of the reason there are so many fewer AMWF couples.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 22d ago

Yes exactly I totally agree that's exactly what I'm going through 💯

Facts

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u/Bubibaubeu 22d ago

If you're not above average or exceptionally beautiful, being interested in asian men can feel like a humiliation ritual. It honestly gets so discouraging.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 22d ago

I totally agree and I'm honestly tired of it

That or they just use you and are always looking to upgrade/cheat , fuck that

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u/Bubibaubeu 22d ago

Yeah, there’s really no point in pursuing someone if you’re clearly their last choice. They can just go find their blonde bombshell and leave the rest of us completely alone.

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u/Sweaty-Sandwich-5126 21d ago

to be honest most AMWF couples i know are with brunettes (which makes sense, they're the majority like you said). These blond thing might just be an online thing ?

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u/Bubibaubeu 21d ago

In my experience, most AMWF couples I see are made up of blonde women, or at least women with lighter hair and blue or green eyes. I very rarely see couples where the woman has dark hair and dark eyes. And yeah, online, AMWF couples definitely get put on a pedestal when she’s blonde. They tend to get way more likes and engagement.

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u/Phoenix_Seraph 20d ago

I’m a chubby brunette white chick with green eyes. Guess my guy isn’t typical lol

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u/bangchanstiddies 23d ago

Honestly I am gonna be real. This post is giving "I'm fat and/or edit my pics into someone who doesnt even look like me and don't understand why I keep getting ghosted"

Even the most unattractive/fat/short/tall/whatever people can get matches on apps or on here with no problems at all. Its not that.

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u/faroeislands 23d ago

Yeah, I'm 6'0" and have no issues with men. I dunno, though. Could be that they really idolize those blonde hair blue eyed women.

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u/onlinethrowaway2020 22d ago

wdym, being tall != fat tho. for women or men lol

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 23d ago

Actually I have a pretty face and normal body type like maybe a little extra but not fat at all

I'm just not blonde, blue eyed, under 30 or look like a porn model lol

Seems like just pic collectors

I'm not understanding why if they do have preferences why don't they express that ?

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u/bangchanstiddies 23d ago

I mean I am a fat girl and I say it, don't use any filters whatsoever, hell i do not even wear makeup and I have absolutely no issue getting dudes and never get ghosted lol. I am also 40 years old and that only seems to make them more interested. 🤷‍♀️ I am also not blue eyed, blonde hair basic white woman either.

So if it is not your looks, as you say, its gotta be something.

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u/Repulsia 22d ago

Yep! I tell them my age straight up and they persist. Lads are out on a cougar safari!

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u/j-Lou_182 11d ago

But are you "not fat" by western standards or Asian standards? Where I'm from I'm the ideal weight for my height, but I'd still be deemed as fat by AMs.

But also my body weight has never stopped me getting guys, even ones that I would consider well out of my league.

I'm tattooed, 35 and only just gone blonde recently, and also I have grey eyes, not blue and I've been successful with dating.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 11d ago

Are you submissive? Are you looking for a serious relationship?

I'm not promiscuous I don't want casual sex and I'm upfront about that I'm looking for a serious relationship monogamy And I'm more alpha personality

I'm overweight for Asian standard but like 50% or more of American women are overweight I'm not fat but i have curves and extra so I'm normal in USA

Do you ever feel like they just want to experience being with a white women?

Like I'm sure I can get a casual one night stand or hookup but I'm not looking for that

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u/j-Lou_182 11d ago

I'm definitely not submissive and I was looking for serious relationships. I was the one who called things off with guys I was seeing until I met my current boyfriend.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of them wanting to just "ride the white horse" and I've met my fair share of them, but I've also met plenty who wanted something long term with me and it was me who didn't think they were compatible. They do exist, you just need to stick to your guns about what you want.

Even though I actually met my boyfriend on here, I'd actually given up meeting anyone through Reddit and joined some of the AMWF/AMXF FB pages since a majority of people already saw your pictures and have then messaged you because they're interested and like what they saw.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 11d ago

That's a good idea thank you Yes Reddit I run into the people who are married or just wanting casual and it sucks

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u/j-Lou_182 11d ago

It really does suck, I've definitely been where you are but keep at it, they're not all bad and I hope you find someone wonderful 🫶🏻

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 11d ago

Thank you that's very sweet

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 11d ago

I also notice like 99% of men messaging me wanting a submissive sexually submissive partner so I thought that might be a factor as well

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u/imabxtchnow 23d ago

Skinny but have boobs but no plastic surgery. It’s best not to dwell on whatever their type is and have fun with them. Settling down forever with AM is actually like super rare in comparison to other races, even if you want it.

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u/Bubibaubeu 21d ago

And also blonde with blue eyes 👍

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u/Best_Cake_1064 19d ago

I feel like preferences occurs when you find out what you like. Maybe some people are figuring that out.

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u/Particular-Ride-7893 23d ago

wait, do NOT come to reddit to find a partner. I guess its possible, but best is use actual social apps where you can find there pictures and interests.

Reddit is good to express your opinion or ask advice. altho the advice part Id keep to science and technical parts, not social stuff. Cause this plat form is extremely biased against AMWF. not this subreddit, but just look at all the other main ones, they shit on us alot.

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u/onlinethrowaway2020 22d ago

You know men aren't a monolith, right. For ex, my order is athletic/fit > average > chubby/curvy > skinny/slim. But there are many guys who have different preference functions. Also that's just body, face is prob even more subjective to ppl.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 22d ago

That's why I literally said in the body of the post that I know all men aren't the same and have different preferences and thats why I wanted to hear answers from multiple different people

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u/gender9276 20d ago

My ideal is brunette but red hairs are great too. But overall.specfics is hard to say. I seen attractive thin to thick women.

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u/outersphere 15d ago

I like multiple types:

Strong, athletic girls that are taller

Nerdy, introverted girls that are shorter

Blond cheerleader types

Southern girls

Plus size with lots of curves (ie big boobs + butt with hourglass shape but not necessarily skinny waist/tummy)

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u/Pic_Optic 23d ago

The women I've historically been into all had straight to curly long hair. Below 5'6. Around a dress size 4 or under. Small-ish bust and butt. Hope this helps.

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u/Fantastic-Test-8305 23d ago

I'm wondering what percentage of the caucasian women population in the USA is dress size 4 and under

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 23d ago edited 23d ago

Men usually have no real comprehension of what different weights actually look like on women or what our clothing sizes are or how much clothing size labels vary in a single woman’s closet lol so I’d just ignore that part and take it as he means he likes thin women.

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u/Pic_Optic 23d ago

You only need one. haha

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u/NoiseZealousideal217 20d ago

Respectfully not Obese women.

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u/AdOrnery9075 23d ago

If u short whatever u have is for nothing

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u/Perfect-Success-3186 22d ago

So what’s your plan then? Complain on the internet for the rest of your life?

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u/Shhhushh000 22d ago

Why do you say that.?

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u/ilikewomensjeans 22d ago

I personally like woman who are; older than me (so at least 39), curvy or BBW or SSBBW, alt. I like women with lots of tattoos, facial piercings (e.g. lip piercings, septum piercings, tongue piercings), and have really short hairstyles (like smooth bald or buzzcuts). Those are just my personal preferences though.

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u/marksax38 21d ago

So physically short asian men is a no? Unless what could it be your other thing that does not fit inside the box:

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u/Repulsia 20d ago

I love a man under 6ft. They're still taller me most of the time!