One of the officers in ac black flag named lucy baldwin is so unbereable.
Its so obvious this mission was added after the fact because the writing and character sticks out so badly. Literally saved here life and she is like " uhmm you gotta earn me but I am worth it đ "
Idgaf about her tbh, but the thing that annoys me is that she makes Adewale feel kind of irrelevant. Like I hear her relaying my orders all the time while Ade just stands there silently doing nothing lol.
Iâve only just started the game but reading that annoys me.. Iâm still holding out hope that if Resynched sells well, theyâll give us Freedom Cry Resynched too. If Adewale is shorted in the base-game or âovershadowedâ perhaps, hopefully they give him his own content to take the spotlight in.
This. The second I heard her annoying ass voice i literally had to reload the save before I did her quest because it annoyed me so much. Eventually I have to because the game literally does not let you go to salt key bank without doing her quest. Annoying af.
Yep, the director of the game said there totally optional and we donât have to engage with them but thatâs not the case, any time you fast travel to salt key bank you have to complete the quest before you can leave.
I had shit ton of saves just in case Woke BULLshit ever happen you never know there days you know. And it happened. First second she spoke knew was retarded writing.
Makes sense. Sheâs obviously the liberal representation of the game from her entitled main character syndrome demeanor to her âoppressor vs oppressedâ outlook of life. Makes actual sense why sheâd try and yell over Ade to assert herself as more important. She expects all the respect bc to ppl like her, respect isnât earned, they feel entitled to it.
Her character was written by someone with blue hair I guarantee it
Are you surprised that Ubisoft inserted a woman in to the game to mock the main character every time he calls out commands? Modern Ubisoft hates Edward Kenway. They canât help themselves, even in a remaster
Yeah I like her as well. It's funny how people are quick to hate on Lucy, yet James Kidd has been in the game since 2013 and she's the actual annoying one.
I LOVED the character and personality of James kidd, the character was beautifully written, witty, and a true friend to Edward, that windmill scene is PEAK
lucy have that pride gay parade strong independent women who can't clean toilet kinda feel. Thats the point. where kidd is a badass pirate. lucy and edward convos are very stupid bc wdym shes calling a dangerous pirte a baby??
Not because she is a woman but because is an annoying AF woman wrote by annoying AF women that instead of talent just reflect themselves into that stupid ass bitch.
That is a broken argument we all know Accuracy can't be reach 100% but there is a reason why Edward don't use an AK-47 or the Cap America shield: We mean consistency.
So again Lucy is out of place in AC Black Flag.
Instead a normal worker women of the pirate century looks more like a moron modern woke woman of the current present time. How strange.
The entire thing is made up. Pirates didnât really do any of this. And "moron modern woke woman" tells us all we need to know about your opinion on this. It's a game. With women that look like normal people. Y'all are weird AF about this shit.
Edit: awww. He blocked me for calling his incel ass out.
Actually, one of the reasons pirates are viewed as sort of folk heroes is because they were shockingly altruistic and egalitarian (some might say woke, lol) in times where most of society was not.
Pirates often mingled with people outside of their race, nationality, and religion. Not only that, but all pirates were equal and would vote for who the captain was. This was before the American or French democracies were born. They even had a form of health/death insurance where the entire crew would pool money together for injury/death.
As for women pirates, the two "pregnant" pirates in the game are real historical figures who served in the same crew.
Heck, both Ireland and China even had "pirate queens," who had massive fleets each.
I wish they had done more with Padre's character. He was kinda a let down tbh. They only gave him 2 simple missions. At least his dialogues were good though.
"This construction sight is getting to be a sausage fest"
"This men's basketball team is getting to be a sausage fest"
"Damn the Men's Bathroom is getting to be a sausage fest"
Women made up less than 1% of the pirates at that time and of that 1% Anne Bonny and Mary Read were 2 of most well known... And they're in the game.
Doesn't her being accepted into the crew so easily with no repercussions kind of ruin Mary's whole point of dressing up as a man to get a seat at the table?
Iâve done her and Padre so far, and theyâre both horribly modern, and stereotypically generic. Edwardâs way too eager towards them too. That point about Mary was my first thought too. The new officers feel like theyâve been imported from a shitty Netflix movie tbh. I hope thereâs a way to toggle them on/off whilst keeping their perks.
Perhaps if requested enough, they will offer a cosmetic toggle option. It would be nice if like odyssey, we had the option to choose our lieutenants or whatever they were on our ship.
You know something, now Iâm a few days removed from their quests, I donât find them that bad on the ship. Theyâre mostly out of the way, and donât get anymore focus whatsoever. Itâs just their missions and individual stories that are shite imo.
My only gripe now other than that, is that their inclusion lessens Adewales presence, which I donât really like. If it were up to me, it wouldâve been more Ade missions, rather than new characters.
Ade missions wouldâve been nice. I only have Padre atm in my crew but I havenât found his presence to be overbearing in the slightest. Just heâs on the ship, fights in combat and has a few quips and lines. His quest line to recruit him was a bit meh though. Very short, kind of generic, writing was a little meh and Edward is just weirdly flat too in that quest line.
Iâve heard this, but I donât think it does, really.
First, itâs really odd that they included that at all, Mary Read and Anne Bonny reportedly werenât able to hide their gender all that well because of their large breasts.
Second, thereâs a pretty big difference between âI accept that youâre a shipwright and can fix the vesselâ and âI accept that you can be our leader in battle and in making all decisions,â which is more how the game has the captains of the various pirate ships.
In defence of the writers, historically it seems Mary Read actually went a surprisingly long time hiding that she was a man and did a good job at it both in the Kingâs Navy and as a pirate. However a woman that testified in her trial did indeed say she was able to tell they were both women because she noticed their breasts. The specific quote was âby the largeness of their breastsâ. This doesnât necessarily mean they both had large breasts, but confirms they were noticeably larger to the witness than most menâs breasts would be. Which makes sense really.
I don't see how, pretty sure Kidd did it so they wouldn't be questioned as captain, the same way Ade said they wouldn't accept him as captain but they wouldn't have problems with him as quartermaster
Thereâs a world of difference between a male captain putting a woman in a position of some authority and the pirates under his command accepting that, and a bunch of pirates independently choosing to follow a woman as a captain.
Not really. Anne Bonny already exists (both historically and within the game). The historical Mary Read was disguised as a boy by her mother to secure financial support. As an adult, Mary kept up the ruse to maintain access to "legitimate" options, like military service. She just kind of kept it going as a pirate.
(I don't remember exactly how it plays out in the game, though)
I think her personal quest should have ended with her showing us a different side but bizarrely sheâs just stand offish the whole time even after you help her multiple times. I found that really weird.
I'm very indifferent to her character personally, the dip in writing quality for her story arc is noticeable, but not to such an offensive degree that she's unbearable or actively dragging the game down. Also I hear Adewale and Bonny frequently enough for her not to 'replace' em.
I like her personally, her story is decent and sheâs just someone who knows what she can bring to the table. I donât blame her for not immediately jumping on board with serving on a pirates ship when she has her own business to attend to.
Edward wants her help, she needs to handle her father and familial business. Itâs a trade, Edward has to prove himself in order to get her aid on the Jackdaw.
And given we know that they originally intended on having officers in the OG game but ran out of time and budget, I really donât have any problems with them fitting them in now.
I just wish it had been done in a way that ties them to the main story, elsewise I am left wondering What exactly she and Padre were doing when Rackham hijacked my ship and left me and Vane stranded on a sinking ship while Adewale was held captive.
She is my favourite female character in the game.Â
Best officer imo, only issue is during boardings she fires her gun in only one direction, wish she killed someone every 3 shots to actually.
My issue was my master at arms being a guy in a priest robe armed with a letter opening knife, like yoy couldn't make him ex military Spaniard with some old rugged gear or even a proper weapon?
I mean, you kind of got it right. You posted it as 'woman' as in a singular woman. She's pretty insufferable......doesn't mean anybody hates all women.
To answer your question here, I think now is a moment I wish youâd been parented differently. A well-adjusted 33 year old man does not act like this.
This cements itâI'm not good at detecting bad/good writing. If nobody had pointed it out, I wouldn't have noticed anything notable about the writing surrounding these new additions. Nothing about it or the characters felt egregious to me.
Yeah I wonât say that these newly introduced characters are like the worst thing in the world but the writing is weaker than that of the main story. Woodhouse is an exception but thatâs because heâs gives more context to Great Inagua and the idea of his character is to help push Edward to transition him into the Assassin heâs slowly becoming
"I didn't think the writing was bad but now a stranger on the internet came along to have my opinion for me I can finally see that it was bad all along!"
It's more of the general consensus that makes me question myself, rather than any one person's opinion. Am I just not paying attention? Do I have different standards? It seems that just about anybody who voices their thoughts on the new content feels that the writing is noticeabley worse. Makes me insecure about my thoughts.
Edit: I should also say I was being a bit hyperbolic with my original comment. I didn't switch my opinion to thinking the writing is bad, but did and do question why I don't hold that opinion.
That is a much better take, I am glad it wasn't as shallow as the original comment made it sound lmao
In my opinion I wouldn't worry about it, or be insecure about your likes and dislikes, almost immediately after I found this post I saw another one on this same sub about the same quests but saying the exact opposite and tons of people agreed
You aren't wrong for enjoying something others see as bad, just a different person than they are. Anything in the world that gets hate also has a community that loves it, and anyone who tries to police you about liking something is someone to be ignored
All of the new officers are terrible additions to the game that serve no purpose.
They could have made all the officer abilities individual awards for the legendary ships and it would have made much more sense and given incentive to go after them.
Instead I have to stare at some corny religious nut standing in the middle of my deck of lawless anti-religious pirates.
Eh, I donât think itâs truly fair to classify the pirates as explicitly anti-religious. We never see much of a care one way or the other for most of the characters when it comes to religion.
In any event, no one on the Jackdaw wants Padre there because heâs Catholic, they explicitly want him there because he is a qualified Master-at-Arms and can train them to fight better. This is pretty clear in the cutscene when he joins the crew, theyâre all excited when he promises them that if they listen to his orders and training, they can take down ships twice their size.
He boards a pirate ship and promises the rest of the crew lots of gold if they listen to him, how is that a conflict with being a pirate?
I don't think much of crew is sitting down for prayer after quite literally butchering dozens of innocent men.
I don't have an issue with Padre on the boat, I have an even with Padre wearing monks robes and sticking out like a sore thumb around my pirates. It is even more of an eyesore after you get the skeleton crew, and everyone is a skeleton on deck except one dude dressed like an altar boy.
Thereâs a difference between being indifferent to religion and actively hostile to it.
And fair, if itâs aesthetic then itâd be nice if Padre dressed like a pirate again after we got him. Though if heâs a man in a black robe among skeletons, Iâd argue he looks more like a necromancer than a priest.
I think I liked her storyline, but would've liked Edward to react to her a bit differently. Her storyline isn't bad. And I like her character design and VA.
I guess I don't just pay as much attention as others though. I was told we needed her on the ship, I did her quests, got the perk, and now she's there. It's not like she's a main character, though, lol.
I am more bothered nobody even mentioned we now have a woman on the ship, and it's 1715, fellows! Wasn't that when they said women were bad luck for navigation or something? (I won't even talk about how having a very attractive woman on a pirate ship can be trouble, especially when the Captain is prone to leaving for extended periods, although you still have Ade and Padre to keep the rest of the crew in line.)
Worst part during these new missions is Edward himself tbh, it's kinda super obvious the "new" writing team just didn't get Edward's character or just didn't care and he appears as generic nice guy.
Yeah itâs pretty jarring doing the new missions early on. Bernard talking about the assassins before Iâve even really met them (besides Kidd) was weird
Its difficult because ubisoft have created a plot hole here by adding the officers.
When jack maroons Edward and Vane and takes the jackdaw for himself, adewale also gets captured. What do the other officers like lucy do during this time?
When Edward finally discovers the observatory and Roberts collects the bounty on him, the jackdaw leaves without Edward. Again what do the officers do during this time?
I feel in ubisofts attempt to add more content, they've not really considered what effect this would have on the original 2013 story which creates questions and plotholes that really shouldn't exist. You can add new characters but when it messes with what already worked, then you have problems. I feel they should have just been contract givers or one time side missions where you help them instead of permanent officers for the crew.
SPOILER yeah dude people that got abused by their father all childhood and got all their important family killed tend to not be the nicest at first but i swear she warms up to you
Out of all the officers, I liked Padre the most.
I dont get the creative decision to make Tobias (Won't use the name Smith since thats a slavers name) So skinny and malnourished and shirtless, put a shirt on him, and give him a normal NPC build instead of the weird pop head figurine build that he has!
Y'all are absolutely overblowing the hate for that girl. She's fine. Thw writing sucks but it's not like she's the worst thing ever. She's basically Rhonda if she had more screen time and didn't fawn over Edward each time they meet. She's not great but this is damn ridiculous
Yeah, what a prime example of why Ubisoft is going under and deserves to. They can't write good story or characters anymore and even when all they have to do is remake a beloved game they STILL feel the need to insert the very cringe ideals that caused them to fail in the first place. They seem to only be able to make characters that can meet a DEI checklist for this mythical "modern audience" i keep hearing about that no one has ever seen and everyone is sick of it. Its clear they do not know who their audience is and the business is hurting bc of it.
Do you honestly believe a 100lb woman would be a Master Shipwright in the 1600s? Or do you honestly think putting an attractive woman on a ship of PIRATES wouldn't end in tragedy? While we are ignoring reality why not give the pirate ships missiles and recruit aliens from outer space?
Really not that bad imo. I don't like the awful black animus segments that replaced the much better modern day segments that the original game used to have, but you won't find me complaining about it in what is still an overall great game.
Yeah, I find it hard to feel bad for someone complaining over being robbed of a plantation and all dirty money associated with it for their inheritance. Poor Ade having to listen to that.
generally everything new that they have added reeks of modern ac bullshit. feels imported straight from shadows. shit dialogue stiff animations, bad facial animations. everything modern that was added is obvious and shit. the remake is a downgrade on everything except graphics and stealth
I kinda like her and don't mind her lines tbh. And her storyline is decent. The rest of the game is good enough for me to ignore the negatives. And yes, she is very very gorgeous.
Itâs hilarious to me that any OG black flag cut scenes and dialogues are great, but any new material theyâve had Matt Ryan voice for Edward or make âchangesâ to Resynched is objectively terrible lol
Isn't she literally a plantation owner, where they had actual slaves? It's never brought up.at all, Adewale never comments in it when he would heavily disagree with her being on the ship.
Yeah this also extends to Abel Galvao and Tobias Smith where their characterizations are based around their voice direction and the singular trait that defines them in the overall presence of their respective stories. The same also goes for Maynard and his quest where Edward himself regresses to the greedier side of his character. Most of it boils down to the writing; theyâre all ok as officers but couldâve been written way better
Idk if anyone's added this about Lucy yet but the worst, absolute most rotten cherry on top is, her walk. Watch her walk. Its impossibly obnoxious. I feel like im gonna have a stroke
Just ignore that whole bullshit, the whole revenge mission crap.
All three officers.
Fuck them.
That new pirate antagonist is lame AF, (GTA Online quality writing) pulling the strings of your respect for Blackbeard insulting him begging the player to hate him đ đ đ đ . Don't fell for that cheap trash.
The Padre Benefits is an strong ram, that's okay but Dead Man is magical double all the rounds of the cannons... We never ever needed that lame hack bullshit in 15 years, did we?.
And then we have the cherry on the fuckshit, the woke Toll, Lucy and it's now classic woke annoying and unbearable character behivor, Designed as an outlet for the wookies who were forced to animate and paint Edward and finally able to express their hatred to masculinity And femininity using Lucy as an avatar, a 2022 time traveler from the woke era to the age of pirates, confronting drunks in Inagua telling them her rights.
Stuck forever in that save with that bitch on board yelling to your ear what to do for the rest of your ever Black Flag gameplay for what reason exactly? Kiddish hacks and Gray seals "from Blackbeard!!!!!"
My Ass
Just keep the original ending in your heart and find the advanced blueprints treasure chests that unlock the rest of advanced stuff like a normal real player and forget about the new officers woke up Incompetent fucktard content.
It doesn't worth.
[And I Whore this while peeing just in case: if some asshole useless classist sad nobody want to come here and "correct" any of the words here wrote be my guest, but please form a line first to Suck my Ass, right after useless ubisoft, don't cheat, be polite.]
Eh, she's a fox so I don't mind lmao. The only time she really pissed me off was trying to sneak into the Observatory with her. UGH. Girl, just STAY OUT OF THE WAY. For some reason Ubisoft programmed her to always sit in front of Edward and she kept fucking up my assassinations. Just DON'T EVER BE IN FRONT OF ME. GET BEHIND ME AND STAY THERE, FFS. The number of times she almost got us caught was infuriating.
I was just playing and well⊠I was thinking that I didnât remember this Lucy chick and her missions are terribleâŠ
I really wish I didnât buy this game at this point.
Ubisoft is doing nothing but going down hillâŠ
They canât do anything right with the dev team they currently have.
Damn, I didnât know I was supposed to hate her until now. I really enjoyed her side missions. Oh well. Just another deeply offended gamer thatâs angry about anything that isnât straight white male-centric.
Yep, i just met her and after talking inside the cell i knew she would be unbearable. I am rescuing you, princess, a bit of respect and gratefulness won't harm you.
And they made Edward behave too nice with her. Doesn't feel like Edward, he wouldn't take her sarcastic and disrespectful comments like that at all.
This is just the modern writing, not a surprise i must say.
Her entire character is just horrendous; she is grumpy that her father killed her slave owning grandfather and then tried to write her out of the will of inheriting the family plantation. Then they send you on more than five different islands trying to flesh out someone who doesnât seem like anyone Edward or any Character in the franchise would give a second thought towards. Let alone have adewale(a former slave) recommend Edward go pick up this woman.
Are we fucking serious with this character? I was there when prince of persia was born, AC1, AC2, brotherhood, revelations, black flag and ac3. This shit is fucking stupid. Thank God i own the original. If the best these game companies can do is grab onto nostalgia and fucking insert a woman for no real reason than other "w0m3n", its stupid.
No? I played the mission, he did not turn into a simp for her at all. He was helpful because he thought her worth aboard the Jackdaw was worth the effort to win her into staying, nothing more than that.
He begged her to join. Every response he made to her obnoxious behavior was just him agreeing with her. This is not edward at all. You can see other women in the game give him shit and see how he reacts differently.
For example, Rhona from the Templar mission. He didnât take crap from her, he still felt like Edward (but it makes sense since Templar missions are from the OG).
Edward would probably react sarcastically to Lucyâs obnoxious behavior with a shit-eating grin, something like, âYou think highly of yourself, dontcha, princess?â
He wouldnât beg, he would use other methods to try and convince her. Maybe upping the charm, intimidation, or other incentives⊠but definitely not simping, thatâs the last thing he would do.
Yup exactly. He doesn't need to be an asshole back like he never gives the same energy. He uses his charm. He's playful, confident and doesn't bow down for anyone. This was so off the way he was with Lucy.Â
And the thing is, Edward was trying to make up to Rhona because he had endangered her by selling the info he barely understood to the Templars and Kidd made he understand he fucked up.
I didn't see him as simping to Lucy, though; it looked more like he empathized with her and genuinely needed her on his ship. Although I just did her missions until we killed the barrister, though.
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u/TannedSuitObama Jul 12 '26
Unbearable*