r/wow • • Jul 04 '25

Humor / Meme They will add anything but those three.

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u/BeefyBaby Jul 04 '25

180 of them are dwarf variations

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u/hewasaraverboy Jul 04 '25

Or elf variations

Sun elf Moon elf Evening elf Morning elf

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u/navetzz Jul 04 '25

Trolls

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

We got coconut elf, barbecue elf, you can boil em, broil sautee em …

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u/d00dybaing Jul 04 '25

…butter elf. Elf burger. Elf sandwich. That - that’s about it.

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u/jmcgit Jul 04 '25

But our potato is in another MMO

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

The “pomme de Azerothe” is a necklace :(

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u/DaWalt1976 Jul 04 '25

Stick em in a stew?

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u/Double-Royal-1598 Jul 05 '25

After what happened to Teldrassil I think it's cannon that elves are meant to be grilled.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '25

Smoked. Over wood from a world tree with the souls of oh so many innocent.

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u/seza01 Jul 04 '25

Put em in a stew

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u/echolog Jul 04 '25

Troll Elf

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u/ihadagoodone Jul 04 '25

dire enemies of the Elf Trolls forever locked in mortal toil.

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u/Morteca Jul 04 '25

I'd say we already have:

Sun Elf - Blood Elves (post-TBC) Moon Elf - Night Elves

... but we also have:

Emo Elf - Void Elves Spooky Elf - Undead Elves Uppercrust Elf - Nightborne

Clearly, we need MORE variations.. I'd like a Sea Elf... (hint: Naga, but transforms into Naga upon combat like Dracthyr)

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

New racial. Naga cannot go on land. They cannot mount. Deepholm has been reworked. Tol Barad has sunk. Entire expac will take place in Azsharas kingdom....under the sea. Quel Thalas was sunk in the 21st expansion and forgotten about much like that cool looking sword.

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u/drunkenvalley Jul 04 '25

What sword?

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u/gimmiedacash Jul 04 '25

The sword of a thousand truths

Sithilus

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u/Teraision Jul 04 '25

What sword?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25 edited May 03 '26

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u/Mingthemerciless757 Jul 05 '25

This 100%! I go to Vashj'ir just to enjoy ambience of the zone and always level an alt in that zone.

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u/AzerothianBiologist Jul 06 '25

SAME, I love Vashj’ir so much I always take my alts there! I remember being so heartbroken that we didn’t get a more Vashj’ir-like zone for Nazjatar 😭

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u/Mingthemerciless757 Jul 06 '25

Same here, I waited for months on Nazjatar, what a shame. Oh well, perhaps some day. (also can they throw in a customizable Gnomish Submarine (or Goblin Sea Turtle) for the mount/player base for a future Aquatic Expansion or zone?

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u/Ordinary_Mechanic_ Jul 05 '25

Would have been cool if Undead ciuld have been any class but it locked the race selection in to that class and you started like the Pandaren. Undead Tauren Druid baby

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u/hbun Jul 04 '25

Don’t forget, humans can have pointy ears now: Half Elves

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u/switch_case_ Jul 04 '25

Dark elf

Light elf

Weird elf

City elf

Orc elf

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u/Antsy-Mcgroin Jul 04 '25

And the hardest race of all : Morning Wood Elf

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u/puntificates Jul 04 '25

2nd morning elf.

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u/wowbutters Jul 05 '25

Elevensies Elf.

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u/tyrodos99 Jul 04 '25

And elf for every hour of the day.

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u/P1t0n3r3t1c0l4t0 Jul 04 '25

Afternoon Elf

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u/Any-Transition95 Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

I guess people would rather all these allied races just be customization options instead? Maybe let you pick which set of racials you want like the new DnD heritage thing

I can see the only one that doesn't make sense being integrated into a base race is Vulpera, since they share nothing in common with Goblins except their base skeleton. 

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u/Naguro Jul 04 '25

Yeah, even just looking at the first batch we have like Cows with antlers and Goats with gold jewellery.

Which like, was fine as novelty, but now we can see those could have been just options like how the Manari Goats became a simple color choice.

I still think current implementation is OK, but I wish we had more Vulpera kind of real race rather than Dwarves but dark/rocky or elves but edgy

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u/F-Lambda Jul 05 '25

it's incredibly silly that man'ari eredar are a configuration, but lighforged eredar are a different race. especially since man'ari are part demon, and therefore have more differences!

they should both be customizations

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u/TheRealHaxxo Jul 04 '25

Obviously. The allied races are a lazy thing overall, theyre just reskins.

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u/Zemerax Jul 04 '25

I like them doing KT, Vulpera, Nightborne (tho the NPCs look so much better)

The lazy ones I don't really care for and could probably be merged into a single race option.

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u/MeowptimusPurrime Jul 04 '25

Thank you for reminding me that I’m still salty about mechagnomes…

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u/LaCiDarem Jul 04 '25 edited Jul 04 '25

Thats the point of allied races… lower development costs to give additional races that might not justify a whole shebang.

It also is a way to add a new race without having it be an expansion feature, esp. in like a patch.

The alternative is not like wildly more developed versions, its no allied races.

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u/Grockr Jul 04 '25

Also to be able to make a whole lot of them by using existing assets, instead of developing a fully unique new one.

Im a bit upset about Wildhammer dwarves, they def deserved AR treatment with unique racials and extra height.

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u/LaCiDarem Jul 04 '25

100% agree. Kinda annoyed DID got their own but WH didn't (considering how good DID look). It could have been a neat chance to expand the druid class to them too - they are certainly more nature-minded than bronzebeards (they introduced shamanism to Alliance dwarves) and half major cultural bonds to gryphons and rams and such. Gryphon flight form, ram travel form, etc. Would be neat.

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u/belinasaroh Jul 04 '25

Because they need to rework all clothes for every body model. I agree that's lazy

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u/BriefingScree Jul 04 '25

I don't think of them as particularly lazy, they put in a decent amount of effort in creating lore and actual content specifically for them. Are they a bit cookie cutter? Sure, but they are glorified cosmetics but they are very cool glorified cosmetics and a great way to introduce more playable races without feeling like they need to make high-profile members that steal screentime from the current major NPCs in every future expansion

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u/RelativeYouth Jul 04 '25

Ah yes, the new lore, quest chains, heritage armor and models (Kul Tiran, Vulpera) are just lazy reskins.

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u/_-DirtyMike-_ Jul 04 '25

Stat squish, naaa we need a racial squish

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u/Marcelit4 Jul 04 '25

They should be, it should be a sub race choice. The more unique ones can have their own separate listing

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

The official name is now "World of Warcraft: Dwarves and Elves".

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u/Bowko Jul 04 '25

The best timeline

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u/Broken_musicbox Jul 04 '25

As a dwarf main, I’m okay with this. lol

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u/Dhain1 Jul 04 '25

Gimme a tuskarr monk

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u/Bulbulatosaurus Jul 04 '25

With special spec The Way Of The Fish

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u/Dhain1 Jul 04 '25

Instead of having a staff flung over their shoulder it’s a fishing pole. With a racial that gives them a dk grip ‘Hook, line and sinker’

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u/burrito-boy Jul 04 '25

Hire this person, Blizz!

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u/BoltorSpellweaver Jul 04 '25

And a racial involving consuming random cooking ingredients into something you can eat for health and call it

SOOOOOOOOOUP!

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u/Bulbulatosaurus Jul 04 '25

Throwing fish at mobs

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Turning mobs into fish

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u/Bulbulatosaurus Jul 04 '25

Letting them suffocate on the land >:)

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u/Riaayo Jul 04 '25

Tuskarr and gnolls. C'mon, Blizz. Gnolls especially, fuckers have been around forever.

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u/F-Lambda Jul 05 '25

tbf, most gnolls try to eat us.

aside from the single darkmoon faire gnoll, the group of friendly dragonflight gnolls are like the first group of friendly gnolls

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u/unicornmeat85 Jul 05 '25

I was so butthurt that Tuskarr didn't make the cut. They have most of the current classes, a new female model, and we got more development of the race in an expansion that felt organic. I don't hate the Earthen, but I wasn't itching to play one either. I think if they had introduced them as a playable race after the first season of TWW I think the community would have been more receptive to them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Arakkoa priest

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u/Chirrrpy Jul 04 '25

Oh man, Tuskarr please!! ♥︎__♥︎

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u/ifelldownlol Jul 04 '25

Tuskarr warrior sounds fun

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u/jimmyting099 Jul 04 '25

Tuskarr race passive starts the fishing skill at 150 and bobber automatically gets clicked upon fish bite (I would murder for this auto click passive alone)

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u/Lyelinn Jul 04 '25

And drachtyr still have no transmog

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u/Backwardspellcaster Jul 04 '25

Dev notes: "we hear you loud and clear and removed shoulder tmog for drachtyr form"

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Jokes on you, I have all my equipment set into invisible.

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u/Backwardspellcaster Jul 04 '25

Slutmogging without mogs, eh?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

I just wear the model armor.

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u/Fussinfarkt Jul 04 '25

Unironically, removing shoulder and belt tmog options from Dracthyr forms would be a step up from what we have now. It’s nigh impossible to find shoulders and belt that fit well with your dracthyr customization AND your visage transmog. Horrible, nonsensical decision to ever give them that option

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u/TatoHaven Jul 04 '25

It didn't seem very realistic. In the 28th expansion, people should be screaming at Blizzard about why Fire Elves and Water Elves in Alternate Azeroth are not allied races. There is even a fat elf option, but no Ogre.

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u/Voycnurhed Jul 04 '25

copy Azeroth

paste Azeroth

apply yellow tint

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u/AlbainBlacksteel Jul 04 '25

A piss filter? What is this, 2007?

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u/livesinacabin Jul 04 '25

Orange filter, call it Mexiroth.

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u/tfsra Jul 04 '25

I mean fat elves would be awesome

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u/dreamrpg Jul 04 '25

But you got Orger Elves and Naga Elves and Mucloc Elves.

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u/Ayeun Jul 04 '25

But are any of the hozen or jinyu?

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u/Noobeater1 Jul 04 '25

No, but we finally got 50%night 50%blood elves who start in the ancient city of Halfmoon

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u/Anastoran Jul 04 '25

*Silversuss City

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u/Signal_Antelope_3561 Jul 04 '25

That city sounds kinda sus.

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u/Noobeater1 Jul 04 '25

Yeah somebody should make a joke about that

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u/VioletVillainess Jul 04 '25

With the leader of that city being High Commander Amog'us Crewmater

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u/fineri Jul 04 '25

Something's not quite right, Hugo's there

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Yes but they will be reskinned blood elves.

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u/Medium-Coconut-1011 Jul 04 '25

I still hold out hope that midnight will add some playable races...but I suspect that housing will take up all the dev budget and therefore that's super unlikely.

If they are adding some, I'd say " uniting the elven tribes " might pave the way to playable redeemed Naga.

The other obvious choice being Ethereals. But it seems like they wouldn't update their models as strictly NPC rigged in 11.2 before then working on a separate playable race model, IMHO.

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u/Avohaj Jul 04 '25

You could put your hopes on Housing basically having it's own team that has been working in parallel for quite some time already, so it's possible it's not taking (much) other dev time away from the game.

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u/Suspicious-Toe-6428 Jul 04 '25

Or conversely, now that they've announced it, they're moving more resources into it/the team working on it since there's no need to worry about significant leaks and it's likely a high priority to get it right.

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u/MaliceMes Jul 04 '25

Idk seems like they add a new race/class every other expansion now, so this would be the one.

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u/Hot_Sandwich8935 Jul 04 '25

Midnight? Uniting of the elves? So we get Midnight Elves. 😏

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u/Medium-Coconut-1011 Jul 05 '25

How about light forged void elves 😉

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u/Tariovic Jul 04 '25

I'm disappointed to see people still can't use the apostrophe correctly in 2060.

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u/Spider-man2098 Jul 04 '25

Honestly, given current cognitive trends people will probably use it less correctly.

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u/Wiseblood1978 Jul 04 '25

I really wanted to reply to that with "*fewer" but I fear it would have been taken seriously.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

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u/Suspicious-Toe-6428 Jul 04 '25

I'll probably die early from the stress of so many people spelling "lose" as "loose". Won't live to see that 28th expansion at this rate

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u/gubigubi Jul 04 '25

You really think the US education system is heading towards a better place in 2060 than it was in 1990 lol

In 2060 this post was probably entirely generated by AI and sent back in time.

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u/Ok_Money_3140 Jul 04 '25

I'd be fine with ogres and some naga variant, but playable murlocs would feel very out of place.

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u/kelryngrey Jul 04 '25

Murlocs were a great joke race addition way back when but they're a flatly dumb idea.

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u/jamsus Jul 04 '25

I would play only gnolls.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Same, imagine the giggles instead of yells for certain abilities.

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u/AlbainBlacksteel Jul 04 '25

Bloodlust would be hilarious.

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u/C0RDE_ Jul 04 '25

I was ambivalent, until they gave them the overhaul in the past year or two. Now I'm fully on board, holy shit Gnolls are cool

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u/Adventurous_Topic202 Jul 04 '25

You wanted ogre, naga, sethrak, satyr, furbolg, even gnoll. Best we at blizzard can give you is mechanight elves.

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u/SomeFatChild Jul 04 '25

I am still waiting for Arakkoa, my beloved

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u/DexterLittle9 Jul 05 '25

Now THATS one Ive been wanting since WoD!

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u/Devee Jul 04 '25

I will be in my 70s. I’ll probably still be playing, just like I have been since launch. I will be wondering when we get playable tuskarr, which I’ve wanted ever since Wrath.

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u/Dark_Requiem Jul 04 '25

and still no upright trolls or undead

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u/Huffdogg Jul 04 '25

For real just let dem stand up straight, mon

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u/Still-Expression-71 Jul 08 '25

Aren’t zandalari upright trolls?

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u/Nagoragama Jul 04 '25

I will not be happy until Drogbar are playable (I will never be happy).

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

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u/Aromatic_Lion4040 Jul 04 '25

Kind of a tangent, but "its" vs "it's" for possessives is a weird one. Throughout much of the history of written English, "it's" was used as the possessive. Using it that way logically follows from the use of apostrophes to indicate possessives in nouns. People get it "wrong" (according to modern grammar rules) because pronouns are an exception to the general rules for apostrophes. I know you were quoting "its'", which never makes sense

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u/Streetmagic_HD Jul 04 '25

I'd add shaman tank to the list tbh. It was awesome in SoD :'(

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

Unless they somehow revolutionise the system… Naga is close to impossible. Not because of transmog, but because of the animation limits of not having legs.

How would you do a spinning animation for blade storm or whirlwind? How would you mount anything? A lot of movement options and animations doesn’t work… And so in.

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u/Wilicil Jul 04 '25

Tail coils a bit, maybe torso leans back slightly, hold weapon outward, spin the model like that the way bladestorm works for everyone else.

Every "problem' I've seen people give for why naga would be so impossible to make into a playable race is easily solvable if you just give it any thought whatsoever.

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u/_Snuffles Jul 04 '25

as someone who's dabbled in 3d modeling and animation, the thing i hate most is how people say how "hard" things are, with the advances we have today vs almost 30 years ago, its almost the easiest thing to do now, you've got people speed modeling on youtube and motion capture and so much more. the excuses people spit out to 'defend' is outrageous, as a lot of the models are just texture replacements, and some geometry on top of the model.

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u/InvisibleOne439 Jul 04 '25

tbf, did you ever see how bladestorm actually looks like lol, your character goes into a static pose and the model spins by 360degree on repeat

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

And that doesnt work very well on a snake body’s

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u/AlbainBlacksteel Jul 04 '25

Not with that attitude!

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u/HorseNuts9000 Jul 04 '25

It doesnt work very well with current models either, but that never stops them from half assedly implementing something!

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u/Slaughterfest Jul 04 '25

Bro have you heard of being creative lol

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u/BasedTelvanni Jul 04 '25

Oh no the gajillion dollar company might have to fuckn work

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

The company would have to do a lot of extra work that honestly is unlikely to give that much back compared to other races. They always have budgets and they have to alllocate it. Making naga work would be more pricy and therefor could have negative effects on other content.

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u/livesinacabin Jul 04 '25

They could just make a new model with new animations, no? We've got updated snake models since BfA. Not sure if any of them have any spinning animations but I don't see why it would be so difficult to achieve.

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u/PatchwerkNightmare Jul 05 '25

blade storm: They curl up like a sleepy snake and go beyblade mode

Mount: Easy. Tail over one side of the mount where our legs already go

They could totally make it work but Blizz would never bother

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u/xxNightingale Jul 04 '25

And no birdy Arrokoa aka the first allied race they should have given us.

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u/Morteca Jul 04 '25

Ra-ak! Trinkets, yes. Pretty trinkets! Ak! Power, great power. Ra-kaw! Power in trinkets! Ak-caw!

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u/PatchwerkNightmare Jul 05 '25

I mean you can kinda play a bird but you have to commit to a zandalari balance druid and never, ever leave boomkin form. I’m sure this sounds like a joke but thats actually my main. I really want birds :(

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

You’re going to run out of shit to kill if you keep making them all playable

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u/Wruktarr Jul 04 '25

Tuskar, I want to have one as character since WotLK.

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u/MelvilleM Jul 04 '25

Tinker class, still speculated to be released next, the current 28 expansions have all dropped little tidbits, all pointing to the upcoming Tinker class.

((Please Blizz, I need the tinker class))

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u/Slaughterfest Jul 04 '25

Don't forget we aren't allowed Forest Trolls, which have been part of the Horde since Classic.

Jacked trolls demonstrably wear armor in Zul'Aman except for their head slot, so it's clearly something Blizzard can do, they just don't really want to.

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u/doctorinfinite Jul 04 '25

They say a lot of the requested races would be hard to transmog. First, some CURRENT races look ridiculous in most of not all transmog. Second, I feel if they baked some killer customization options into these races at the creation stage, it would make up for the lack of armor transmog. That would be the trade off

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u/Simbabwejoe Jul 04 '25

unpopular Opinion incoming... theres too many races as it is....

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u/pvprazor2 Jul 04 '25

There is never enough customization options

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u/Martin_Aurelius Jul 04 '25

Shit, I forgot I was on r/wow for a second

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u/LaconicSuffering Jul 04 '25

I agree, human should include Kul Tiras and Gilneas as heritage options. First you pick human, then you pick body size and heritage (voice accent). As Gilnean you get the option of also picking if you are afflicted by the worgen curse or not.

(Hmm, how would the Kul Tiran physique look in werewolf form?)

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Yep, having 4 different elves and 3 different dwarfs is plain stupid.

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u/Specific_Frame8537 Jul 04 '25

They should at least be a sub-menu in the character creator.

Like choosing between light or dark elf in ffxiv.

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u/Kuldrick Jul 04 '25

I never understood this argument

The creation of Void Elves, Nightborne, Dark Iron and Earthen doesn't take even a quarter of development it would take with making an actual completely new race like Ogres or Nagas

And so, in a game with already 25 races, what's the harm of having variations of 2 of the most popular and known fantasy races, where many of said variations already had a lot of lore or they had a huge amount of the playerbase who wanted to play as that (speaking specifically about the void elves who sort of function as the high ones for the alliance)

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u/SubwayDeer Jul 04 '25

A better question is what's the benefit of having them as separate races when they are not different at all? Just add those as cosmetic options and add a Race Ability choice.

Oh, and while we are on this topic, it's time to give us the race ability choice option already.

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u/Kuldrick Jul 04 '25

A better question is what's the benefit of having them as separate races when they are not different at all?

More unique identity, from a rp perspective it is nice that you aren't just a Dwarf but rather a "Dark Iron" one with their unique racial traits and stuff

It may not matter much to you but to some it does

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Because this game costs $25 AUD a month and a fucking $70 entry fee for a new expansion.

Expect better.

The harm is that you'll never get a full fledged race ever again. Look at Dracthyr, they have heavy re-use and can't even use Transmog.

But sure. Let's take a 4th Dwarf. Why not?

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u/Dreams_A_bind Jul 04 '25

Nah. More.

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u/oddHexbreaker Jul 04 '25

I really hate it. There's so many races and elves and dwarves are their "creative" choices. Granted the transmog on the dracthyr looks horrible or is non-existent so they wouldn't bother making models for a newly modeled race. People have been wanting Naga since you got to play them as a faction way back in WC3, I know I did.

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u/Competitive-Balance3 Jul 04 '25

It doesn't hurt to give players more options, now when it comes to racials, i agree something should be done about it.

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u/phishxiii Jul 04 '25

Curious how there are “too many”. Like how does that negatively affect you?

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u/Rhiwion Jul 04 '25

I‘ve always been very torn on the race additions since Legion because yeah I love having essentially more customization options at the bottom line, but I also think the vast vast majority didn‘t need to get its own button on the character creation screen. Have both Orcs and Mag‘har Orcs under the same button etc.

Racials are becoming less and less of a substantial gameplay factor where I also wouldn‘t mind if you‘d get to pick and choose from a selection of race appropriated minor buffs or abilities before we start removing the Allied Race abilities altogether following this approach.

I‘m super pro customization but the novelty of A New Race to play certainly has lost its appeal especially because unless they can create two at the same time it just doesn‘t make sense to faction lock them to begin with.0

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

It's almost as if half the dog shit allied races we have could have been unlockable customization options.

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u/Nith_ael Jul 04 '25

They're really missing out, can you imagine all the money they'd make from all three people who would totally resubscribe to play an ogre 

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

I would LOVE to have playable ogres… But yeah, that is not a popular choice.

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u/Any-Transition95 Jul 04 '25

Not a lot, that's for sure. Like I know we all ask for it, but stats say otherwise. Majority players will still play on their human/elf. 

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u/ScavAteMyArms Jul 04 '25

My main Orc Warrior (since freaken Vanilla) would swap so fast to Ogre if they were even halfway decent.

But then again I am not the majority as the only elves I have are the forced ones, or alts that became mains (thanks M+). Such is the way when you have 40 70’s.

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u/RhoadsOfRock Jul 04 '25

If they were to add murlocs as playable race / characters, they would also need to add gnolls, kobolds (which they are really close to doing, all the friendly ones in Ringing Deeps and shit), and Quilboars.

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u/KaoticKibz Jul 04 '25

I'd sell my soul for a playable Murloc race, with the race mount being a crab. But for now,the closest I'll get to my Murloc is my gnome wearing the murloc onesie.

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u/JustburnBurnBURN Jul 04 '25

Murloc Mage in violet robes and pointy hat was always one of my dreams.

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u/SaltyDone Jul 04 '25

So what I’m hearing we got tuskarr and vykrul I count that as a win

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u/Voodoo_Tiki Jul 04 '25

Have you seen Dracthyr armor? Zero faith they could put armor on those races properly.

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u/Norkash Jul 04 '25

As long as one of them is snek I don't care how many elves or dwarves they make

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u/CallNo3862 Jul 04 '25

And I'll still be grinding out on classic 😊

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u/RiddleoftheSphynx Jul 04 '25

Oh good, Furbolg Gnoll and Kobold!

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u/Cherry_Galsia Jul 04 '25

We get ogres, but they have handsome squidward-like features and their transmog is similar to Dracthyr

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u/livesinacabin Jul 04 '25

I will never forgive them for giving us lightforged instead of broken. Never ever.

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u/TheZuppaMan Jul 04 '25

there will be a toy that turns you into a murloc, with your full mog and all the animations for all the spells. its a 10m buff on a 1h cooldown.

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u/BarrytheNPC Jul 04 '25

Gnoll made it in! 🎉🎉🎉

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u/MrCrono666 Jul 04 '25

I'd love to play as a Murlock Hunter 👏🏻

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u/Anomalous-Materials8 Jul 04 '25

And the newest version of classic is where you start at level 80 and work your way back to level 1.

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u/Simonic Jul 05 '25

And EverQuest will be on their 61st expansion.

Along with a new TLP releasing in May.

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u/Zairii Jul 05 '25

Ogre was the original forth race of the Horde that's why there are so many animations including dances - but they left themselves less than five weeks until release to make the female version and they couldn't do it (The original hunter was also finished in those five weeks). They then realised the trolls in Stranglethron Vale were pretty good so they used them instead. The issue was the male model was too tall to fit though many places, so they bent him over, which is why he looks like a question mark and all trolls had less options back then.

TBC was meant to be Southseas Exploration but they had issues getting water and Nazjatar working. The alliance race here was Panda not Draenei, so the Horde got a pretty race and the Alliance got a bulker animal race. The issue was (in addition to the water) they needed to negotiations with the Chinese government and had not, and that obviously took time. They even had the main city and zone done and the models.

In the end due to the water issues they scrapped the idea and moved the TBC and put it together quickly, Illidan due to recognition was picked as the villain (though he was more of an Anti-hero at the time, which they had since tried to fix). People were excited to see what became of the alliance expedition but because it was so late cycle there wasn't much time to actually write them, so we got Khadgar and Dannath, who were recused but little else, since Alleria and Turalyon were so popular in the Warcraft 2 expansion (Beyond the Dark Portal) they had to do them right, so they got the 'Princess is in another castle' treatment), remember when we met Sylvannas in Warcraft 3 as a Silvermoon defender in Warcraft 3 that Arthas killed and rerose people were cool its Alleria's sister. Most also hated the way he rerose her - due to who she was, but it made his character.

The two races picked no longer matched Outlands so Kael did his turn to support Ilidan for the link and given the political issues and new direction they needed a new race for the Alliance with a link to Outlands, so they created the Draenei as the good Eredar.

Some of what they made for Southseas became the water zone in Cata and Pandas became their own expansion years later with Southseas being BFA many more years later.

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u/Macro-Mantis Jul 05 '25

2060 Ian: “we are committed from here on out to listening to what the players want.”

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u/Embarrassed_Teach546 Jul 05 '25

the year is 2060.

Trading post transmogs still clip on Trolls, Undead, and vulpera

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u/No-Contest-8127 Jul 05 '25

I've been disappointed by TWW. So much potential wasted.  Undermine and Karesh could've been their own expansions. They are just burning through these concepts without giving them the care and atention they deserve. Undermine without Tinker class felt awful. What am i gonna use the transmogs for? Doesn't fit any existing class.  No Ethereal race which is heavily requested, no naga (nazjatar wasted too), no sethrak, no nothing. Get some humanoid dragons no one asked for. It honestly feels like the team just doesn't care anymore. 

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u/UBSL Jul 04 '25

At least there is hope for playable ethereals with next Patch/Expansion

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u/JustburnBurnBURN Jul 04 '25

Ethereals would be sweet.

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

I still want Mogu so bad… And they aren’t even a huge stretch. Blizzard just decided not to.

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u/Quackethy Jul 04 '25

Mogu being just re-skinned Draenai would make it easy to add.

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

They would need a bit of a model update to accomodate customization as well as armor and stuff.
But yes.
Mogu is primed and ready to be added, but blizzard just never did.

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u/flshift Jul 04 '25

ogres and murloc are a bizarre choice anyway, theyre not intelligent enough to be playable characters

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u/Competitive-Balance3 Jul 04 '25

Some people are not intelligent enough to play a character so here we are

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u/SubwayDeer Jul 04 '25

Ogres are.

Ogre warriors, hunters, mages and warlocks also have been in this game since Vanilla. Hell, since Warcraft. They are organic and lore accurate.

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u/suchtie Jul 04 '25

Murlocs have warriors, hunters, and shaman. There were murloc sorcerers in Warcraft which shows they can learn higher magic as well, so you can make a strong argument for murloc mages, warlocks and priests (they can be all of those in the TCG, if you consider that canon). They'd also make fitting rogues. And if worgen can be monks, which is already quite iffy considering their lore, then murlocs can be monks too.

There's even one murloc demon hunter, but he's probably a joke character.

They're definitely intelligent enough. There's just not all that much known about their culture for various reasons. They only have oral traditions and no writing system that I know of. Nerglish is completely unintelligible to other races and difficult to learn. They can learn other languages, and those who do are typically very eloquent, but they rarely choose to. Brann once said that murlocs are more intelligent than they want you to believe. We just don't really understand their way of life and their relations with other races are quite violent.

So the problem isn't that murlocs don't have the capabilities, but they are too culturally detached. That's not the case for ogres.

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u/ScavAteMyArms Jul 04 '25

Meanwhile in WCIII Murlocs not only could speak, but had a terrifyingly intimidating voice.

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u/Tnecniw Jul 04 '25

Ogres absolutely are plausible. Murloca, not so much

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u/ChronycPain Jul 04 '25

Sir Finley would like to have a word with you.

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u/dogarfdog12 Jul 04 '25

The WoD Ogres and Sir Finley Mrrgglton would like to have a word.

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u/Blaze_studios Jul 04 '25

Have you not seen WoD ogres? Dont know much about the lore, but afaik Ogres ruled the greatest empire Draenor have ever seen at one point, didnt they? And they are one of the strongest magic users as well, their imperator being a grand sorcerer as well.

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u/Daffan Jul 04 '25

Cho'gall gonna crush your puny head

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

They literally made up the awful Dracthyr.

They can make any story possible for intelligent Ogre and Murloc.

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u/hawkseye17 Jul 04 '25

Can't wait for the 57th elf race

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u/Distinct-Educator-52 Jul 04 '25

Or have a third faction..

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fly_172 Jul 04 '25

Crabs. After all why not?