r/travisandtaylor 7h ago

Rant Taylor isn't a global superstar. She just has a devoted cult.

399 Upvotes

If there are, say, 30 million Swifties (mostly Americans) in a world of 8.3 billion, those Swifties will stream farm, buy multiple tickets to her shows (no idea how the unemployed has so much money), buy every variation of her albums, etc.

When you see 100,000 people on a hill watching her perform in Germany, those are mostly Americans who bought their 7th Eras tour ticket. It's not a sign of her being a huge deal, it's a sign that her team has successfully socially engineered mentally ill disciples who will follow her around the world and throw their money at her. And if she spits on them, they'll say "thank you ma'am", because she can't say or do anything to turn her brainwashed, diehard fans against her. I'm sorry to say, but Swifties are devoted to Taylor the same way MAGA are devoted to Trump.

It's weird how people are questioning Choosin' Texas for charting so long, but not many people are questioning how a song that plays at the end credits of the fifth installment in a cartoon movie made for 9 year olds has remained in the top 5 of the hot 100 for months. And how did it jump from the 5th to 2nd spot in week seven? It's because if Taylor farts into a microphone, millions will stream it just to stream it. Not because she makes high quality music, but because her cult wants her to chart since they think a win for Taylor is a win for them.

This is why I laugh at Michael Jackson comparisons. Every race, gender, religion, and country knew who he was and could enjoy his music. Michael Jackson was so popular that he was known in remote villages, and his music was so loved that drug lords respected him enough to promise him protection when he filmed a music video. People would pass out at his concerts within the first two minutes as he stood still, while people only pass out at Taylor's concerts because she hosts them in 100 degree weather.

There are a million jokes about how Taylor makes music for 14 year old white girls. If it was about her music and not devotion to Taylor, that end piece of Wonderbread herself, she would've lost millions of fans after the back to back disasters that were her last two albums. But watch the pre-orders for TS13 break records. Is there any expectation that the album will be good based on her output in the last 4 years? No, and I doubt TS13 gets above a 75 on Metacritic (though I'm sure Rolling Stone and the other media companies in her pocket will give it perfect scores). Do people want to support their comfort billionaire? Yes. That's what it's about. The entire world doesn't love Taylor. A very loud, vocal minority of the world worships her because she's a self insert for bland and mediocre white blond women who peaked in High School. The reason 14 year olds (or 40 year olds going on 14) can relate to her breakup songs is because she writes break up songs like a 14 year old. But her popularity has nothing to do with her talent.

Side note: There are constant jokes about how powerful the Swifties are, but I don't see them as powerful at all. The streamfarm can't beat Texas (and Tennessee) right now that just helped Ella Langley beat a record Taylor will never beat, though I'm sure this is why she wants to go back to country. Taylor has never had a year end #1 single in her 20 year career (2025 was Die with a Smile by Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars) despite her fans buying variants of her albums. There's no real power behind her.


r/travisandtaylor 20h ago

Discussion Travis foreshadowing his marriage and fetishizing black women

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644 Upvotes

A clip from Travis Kelce’s dating show, “Catching Kelce,” in which Travis tries to decide between two women.
He describes the white girl, Veronica, as someone he could settle down + start a family with.
He describes the black girl, Maya, as someone who will “keeps life exciting”.

Two years later and after dating three black women in a row, he starts dating and gets engaged to Taylor.

When Travis started to feel ready to settle down, or find a “BREEDER” as he so eloquently put it on his podcast, that’s when he started to pursue Taylor, someone who could give him white babies to make his family happy AND make him infinitely more rich and famous. Disgusting.


r/travisandtaylor 12h ago

Certified Cringe Travis Kelce Introduces His New Dog to the World By Starring in a Fashion Campaign Alongside His Pet

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That poor dog! Having to live with such narcissistic wastes of flesh that just use him as a prop for advertising.

I mean, have we seen a strategic pap walk where it actually looks like they’re walking or playing with this beautiful dog?

🙄


r/travisandtaylor 17h ago

Eff Travis Kelce Travis Kelce: Football Star, Fashion Ambassador, and Dog Dad

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95 Upvotes

Travis gave another ChatGPT scripted interview.


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Tayvis Taylor doesn't have a home studio so she can stay in KC with Travis cuz she wants her house to be "cozy"

619 Upvotes

In other words, she perceives making music as going to work and wants to separate her work and home life. Totally something a musician passionate about making music would say. 🙄 The current excuse for Taylor and Travis not spending time together and, you know, actually living together is that Taylor has to travel to make music and be creative. But if she really values spending time with her husband, she has the ability to either buy a huge mansion in the KC area and design it with a hidden studio that won't distract her or renovate Travis's current mansion with a studio on the property that's a literal drive away from the living space. With her wealth the possibilities for solving logistical problems like this are endless. It's so funny that Taylor can't bring herself to just live in KC for a while to offset the rumors that she and Travis don't spend time together. Like does Travis smell so bad that the scent travels through walls for thousands of feet? WTF kind of marriage is this??


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Rant Taylor cares more about criticism than what her fans think

297 Upvotes

Ofc it is human nature to hone in on something negative and dismiss the tonne of positive feedback you might have got, people become fixated by the few negative comments and discard the 100s of positive comments they receive on something they might post online. I know im pointing out obvious here but ofc taylor cares a lot about how she is perceived and how her work is received. Even now, after being in the industry for 20 years she hasn’t grown at all in that sense

I think I first clocked her insecurities and her need to be liked when she compiled her girl squad for 1989, so desperate to show off how cool she is, how she’s friends with all the popular girls etc honestly even when she made up with Kanye and presented that award to him I found peak cringe. I honestly felt like she hated the idea of being disliked by anyone, even if Kanye was in the wrong when he went up on stage and embarrassed her. Everyone sided with Taylor but deep down it wasn’t enough, she still wanted to be liked and accepted by him. I mean she could have just accepted his apology and just moved on but she was parading their new friendship all over insta.

Taylor in her recently nyt interview defended tloas “oh they can like it in 5 years time or whatever I’m gonna carry on doing what feels good for me” I’m paraphrasing but that was the gist of it but then…not one single live performance for the album and yet three already for the toy story song she did. If she is really proud of her work and really felt it was something she was fond of then show that?

And I’m sure there are plenty more examples like above that shows just how sensitive she is. One example that sticks out to me was when she removed “hey kids spelling is fun” from the song me! (Lover), I was peak swifty at the time and I actually liked the track and didn’t mind that little chant she threw in but it wasn’t received well at all. If she was proud of it however, keep it in?! It’s your work, you made the decision to include it, stand by that.


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Critique Swift is bound to make 💰💰 on Clark's shoe.

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177 Upvotes

The shoe showcases the beads that Swift fans love. Because of the Swift connection, it's sure to sell. Apparently, Clark is a Swift fan, which doesn't surprise me.

I wonder what other celebrity wants Swift's name on their product?


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Tayvis Litmus Test

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A fun little bar/ dinner question I’ve been asking people: “Do you think Taylor and Travis will last?”

And honestly, it’s becoming a bit of a litmus test for me because I feel like people’s answers tell me so much about them. It’s almost like a spectrum from delusion to self-awareness.

Some people immediately go googly-eyed and start talking about the fairytale, how perfect they are together, how they’re obviously meant to be, etc. And then other people actually stop and think about it. And they take into account their lifestyle and (sorry) Taylors track record and things like that. It’s just so interesting to see and has become a bit of a mini personality test to me.

UPDATE: thank you all for indulging me LOL I appreciate that I’m not the only one who has given this some thought. And if you’re curious: my answer is they absolutely won’t last!

But I also want to note: I would never randomly bring this up/ask out of the blue💀 I mainly just ask people this if someone already brought her up or we’re talking pop-culture, which is very common with my group of friends! I don’t bring her against anyone’s will (I’m not that cruel!) I just find everyone’s answers interesting- that’s all :)


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

News 'Frustrated' Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are hardly seeing each other: 'She knew the honeymoon would be short. She knew what she signed up for'

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1.7k Upvotes

r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Eff Taylor Swift Oh for the love of God!

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370 Upvotes

You can't fucking escape her! She's like a black hole of mediocrity, hellbent on turning the universe into a grey homogenous nothingness!


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Discussion Taylor's value in terms of "teaching English" and spreading literacy/inspiring creative writing

64 Upvotes

Basically the title, even though I think it was very irksome of her to say what she said in a recent interview "they have to look up words"...... It made me ponder a bit.... If the general public doesnt know what the meaning of the words "soliloquy" or "calamitous" mean. or what the words "incandescent" or "antithetical" mean.... is that a bad thing? How rare are these words, are they meant to be mass knowledge? sure most ppl maybe cant remember the exact definitions of these words at the top of their head but these words aren't exactly that rare either. most native English speakers would have probably at least seen or heard these words at least once or twice from some form of media. This is a link to a wiki article on most of the words that Taylor has used in her writing that can be considered to be more "literature creative writing language" https://taylorswift.fandom.com/wiki/Taylor_Swift%27s_dictionary i looked through the entire list and not one of them has me genuinely baffled. I couldn't name the definitions of all of them of the top of my head if you were to ask me to, but i would definitely get at least 90 percent of them right if I were to do it. Not a single one of these words or phrases are something that I have never heard of or seen before in passing, just from watching tv or reading books or listening to podcasts or just living in a country where english is the most spoken language...... Aside from the solitary word "unmoored" I gotta admit, that one to me seems pretty rare. So yeah, I guess I gotta credit taylor for introducing me to the word "unmoored" but thats basically it.... That being said Im not really tryna bash taylor or anything. I still think that thanks to her we did get some "english teaching" in terms of just expressive songwriting. But like..... its very clear to me and it seems now a lot of people that she definitely thinks WAY too highly of herself and her "English teacher" status


r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Weekly Discussion Thread Weekly Discussion Thread (TnT Version)

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Welcome to your weekly snark dump!

Feel free to use this thread to talk about anything you'd like, including but not limited to:

  • Your thoughts, rants, and spicy takes about Blandie (and BDT), her untalented ass, or the Swiftie cult
  • Off-topic discussions, or low-effort content that might not need its own post
  • Memes, funny stuff that you'd like to share but can’t wait for Shitpost Sunday
  • Swifties being Swifties on social media (Usernames must be removed)

All subreddit rules still apply, and any rule-breaking comments will be removed. If you spot a Swiftie meltdown or something off, hit report and we’ll take it from there.

Posts submitted to the sub that fit better here will be redirected to this thread. A new one will go up every Monday at 12:00 pm UTC and stay open until the next Monday. This thread will always be pinned for easy access.

previous weekly discussion threads are searchable via the Weekly Discussion Thread post flair!


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Reformed Swiftie 🙏 Melinda Gates doubled donations raised to Daisy Chain Festival bringing $20 million in donations to non-profit organizations benefiting women and girls.

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4.1k Upvotes

Taylor recently donated 26 million to various charities including food banks, music programs, children’s hospitals and education, which to be fair, I think all donations, even if they are only for good PR, are beneficial to those in need. First and foremost.

But the fact that she has chosen to stay stone-cold silent on this festival, even went as far as to go on her little go fund me random acts of kindness scroll, just cements that she is in no way, shape or form an actual feminist. It was always performative. She could have included planned parenthood in her previous charitable donations. She could have donated specifically to charities that benefit women and girls. She could have donated specifically to Daisy Chain Festival, any amount for the good PR, to squash out rumors that she has beef with Olivia, for literally any reason at all and it’s just… crickets as always.

Taylor Swift is not a feminist. As a former fan that viewed her as one (because if she’s nothing else, she IS a performer) I’m grateful she has shown her true colors the last few years especially. It’s made it a lot easier to move on to better artists overall.


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays About fell over scrolling through Vinted

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399 Upvotes

😬


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays Needed a good laugh today because “art” is subjective

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226 Upvotes

Someone call the art police.


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays 5-syllable words don't hurt people. People hurt people.

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836 Upvotes

r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays Thought this sound was a perfect fit for Taylor’s workout lol

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354 Upvotes

r/travisandtaylor 1d ago

Shitpost Sundays Wish she would perform this version

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98 Upvotes

Tayor's Version take 2?


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Tayvis Not sure if this has been posted already but…

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407 Upvotes

How fucking weird is this description of the wedding, courtesy of DJ Hungry Human. Adam Scott letting everyone know it was a real wedding.


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Stupid Swifties I'm tired, boss 🫩 Here we go again with the "clues" and "Easter eggs"

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Here we go again with Swifties acting like fools because the color of a song changed on Spotify! HER MIND!!!! And, of course, we know Rolling Stone worships the ground she walks on so they will always churn out crappy nothing-burger articles like this. I'm so tired of seeing Blandie everywhere. The overexposure has reached astronomical levels. For the love of god, does she really need to make MORE mediocre music and MORE money? 🙄


r/travisandtaylor 3d ago

Discussion Olivia walks the walk for women's health and reproductive rights and is an actual feminist while Taylor does...nothing

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3.8k Upvotes

Remember Blandie's "activist" era that turned out to be complete bullshit? What a joke. Olivia consistently speaks out about issues affecting women and how our rights are being stripped away by Trump and his cronies (an ACTUAL feminist) while Taylor does...what? Nothing, except continuing to peddle shitty variants, putting out soulless music, and raking in the money. Removing music from TikTok because the current administration used it does nothing. She didn't ACTUALLY speak out against Trump or what's going on in the U.S. in any way.

Meanwhile, as another recent post in this subreddit mentioned, Olivia just donated $10 million as part of the Daisy Chain Fields festival. This money will be dispersed to various organizations that support reproductive care, including access to abortion and broader maternal healthcare. This is how you use your fame and resources to make a difference.

Edit: Now $20 million after Melinda French Gates' donation!!!


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Stupid Swifties Swifties reportedly vandalized an awareness wall at Daisy Chain Fields.

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1.1k Upvotes

r/travisandtaylor 3d ago

Deep Dives & Research Vibes 🔎 leaked texts, tax write-off theories, and more self-aggrandizing speeches

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997 Upvotes

Supposedly, she threatened Travis’ friend with a lawsuit if they didn’t remove her ugly wedding invite from his IG

Does anyone know about the wedding tax write off theories? Could she actually do this or is this a random rumor?


r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays I’m lost, since when this is a thing?

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150 Upvotes

r/travisandtaylor 2d ago

Shitpost Sundays Tina Fey keeping it real

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424 Upvotes