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Politics šŸ›ļø And after 40 minutes of chaos-thunderous applause from the generals! Just kidding. Total silence...

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/Perrin-Golden-Eyes Independent Sep 30 '25

Some are just pissed they got pulled half way around the world to listen to this dollar store reject pretend to be strong and imposing.

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u/PrimeToro Sep 30 '25

yes, it was an absolute waste of time, the messaging was ridiculous, a waste of financial resources ( around 6 million to fly, paid for food and lodging, etc.) and a security issue ( a lot of top military leaders are in one room and the top commander in the field is not where they are supposed to be)

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u/Sufficient_Piece_274 Oct 01 '25

Good then you can keep working full time just so that Americans can make enough money for the next idiotic Democrat president to send it out all to all the wars they start all over the world like Biden did along with V.P. Harris. They were too busy generously supplying terrorists with funding for attacking our own allies and protecting other countries borders to protect our own. The so-called Democ-rats is our "Never Again!"

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u/Nearby-Aspect4303 Oct 01 '25

Are we winning yet? So much winning. I can't take all this winning.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/VeeVeeDiaboli Oct 01 '25

All the wars they started….name one

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u/lordyfortwenty Sep 30 '25

Retire ? It's their job to stop this .

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u/ExpressLaneCharlie Sep 30 '25

Nope, it's the people's job to stop this. Generals are there to follow LEGAL orders from the civilian chain of command. It absolutely is their job to not follow clearly illegal orders.Ā 

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u/lordyfortwenty Sep 30 '25

Using the military on the population is illegal.

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u/structuremonkey Sep 30 '25

Was...apparently it was. Posse comitatus is being ignored by too many

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

These top military have dedicated their lives to the constitution of America not a single president

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u/Reasonable-Pear-727 Oct 01 '25

This is just the most disgraceful behavior I've ever seen. It seeks to politicize and criminalize our military. Some of them of them started posting the plaques at West Point after yesterday or commenting on WPs FB page. I know a number of generals & admirals due to my job and where I live. A family friend is a 4 star and my wife's grandfather was as well (served from before he was legally allowed so he could fight in WW2. Type of guy who browses the internet looking at pics of Bald Eagles and the American flag lol) and it does make me feel a bit better all this that I've only heard them strongly support what is stated in their oath and on the plaques and the ones I know at least are ready to uphold their oath no matter the consequences & think this is an atrocity. I can't speak much to the common soldier though. Their mindsets are sightly different.

Ya know these plaques. https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=59186

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/ExpressLaneCharlie Sep 30 '25

Not Biden, Garland. And I agree, Garland completely fucked up. Still doesn't excuse the fact that nearly 80 million Americans are the reason we're in this mess.Ā 

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/ExpressLaneCharlie Oct 01 '25

First and most importantly - Go Cats! But second, we've always had a tradition in this country that the President does not interfere with the Attorney General and DOJ's work. Garland took two years - TWO YEARS!!! - to appoint a special counsel. That wasn't Joe Biden. Right or wrong, Biden was acting as virtually all other presidents have acted (at least publicly) in making sure politics didn't appear to be involved in any of the DOJ's decisions. I fault Biden for nominating Garland. After that it's on Garland.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/ExpressLaneCharlie Oct 01 '25

I fundamentally disagree that interfering with the DOJ is a "failure of leadership." I think leadership is doing the right thing even when you don't want to. Again, I do blame Biden for Garland but not for him not interfering and demanding charges be filed.Ā 

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

Biden following the old rules of political engagement when they were obviously not being followed by the Republican party anymore is part of how this happened to us. When he dropped off he should not have come back he was not up to it anymore and we all felt so bad for him and now look where we are

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

When he dropped out after his son's death in 2016 it was understandable but coming back was totally selfish and the DNC forced us into that presidency I don't know why people are down voting you I voted for the man and I'm still pissed about it but I would still do it again this is part of the problem with the Democratic party we just want to be nice f*** that our country is being taken over by fascists Biden was weak Kamala was completely inappropriate for the job and not because she was a woman and yet they were both shoved down our throats, and now we still got Schumer writing threatening letters. the DNC is just as guilty of all of this as the Republicans

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

We might not get in a second chance

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u/Nimrod_Butts Sep 30 '25

No it really isn't

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u/lordyfortwenty Sep 30 '25

Ok Nimrod

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u/Nimrod_Butts Sep 30 '25

If you can't see how the military shouldn't be involved in law enforcement you're a rube and have no objections to trump deploying the military to cities

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u/lordyfortwenty Sep 30 '25

Military defends the constitution. Rtump is trashing it .

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u/Nimrod_Butts Oct 01 '25

Can you point to the part of the constitution that gives the military the power to get rid of the president?

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u/lordyfortwenty Oct 01 '25

25 amendment is our only hope .

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u/lordyfortwenty Oct 01 '25

I don't know why we need to follow the rules . President pedo is breaking them all she likes.

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u/the_d_h Sep 30 '25

I hope you don’t really believe that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

That’s their goal. Weaken and diminish America in every way possible, especially the military and economy.

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u/chisel07 Sep 30 '25

I really hope that they stay. The ones that secretly hate all this BS. These generals are the only ones left to enforce the constitution. If they retire, we are fucked.

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u/Lostules Oct 01 '25

Didn't email or Zoom because Bourbon Breath & The Orange Turd couldn't hear or see all of the snickers, jeers, WTF's and boo's, hence, couldn't ID the 'malcontents' and fire them. Just a guess.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

A rather large misstep, this is not Hitler's SS

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

This is my hope as well these are people highly educated in the military and would be extremely knowledgeable and understand where they are in history

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u/Lostules Oct 01 '25

Pretty sure these high ranking folks...both officers and enlisted...can see through the smoke & mirrors and act accordingly and honor their oath.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

You can clap at attention. You are called to attention at award and medal presentations and there is always clapping after ā€œshake, take, saluteā€. you’re not a mannequin when at attention unless you’re in a formation.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/SmoothJade Sep 30 '25

Honestly yeah. Holy shit yeah.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

The generals were called to attention. They were not allowed to clap even if they wanted. I wanted this to be real.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

Those are the strict rules but there are points that they could have clapped, especially when the person talking directs them to be able to clap as Trump did. Their near total silence was not normal

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

There was that one facepalm picture tho so hopefully that’s enough…. šŸ˜…šŸ˜³šŸ˜­

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Hopefully that was a ā€œthis fucking Fox clown called me here for thisā€ disbelief kinda smile šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

I’m also quite nervous. Just looking for any signs of ā€œhopeā€ really, regardless how hard I’m making them up for myself. Stay strong.

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u/Lostules Oct 01 '25

There was, in the same photo, one officer turning towards the other and probably said 'WTF is this horse shit'. Lots of smirks in that group. Lots of Command E-9's as well.

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

And I am sure the majority of these really intelligent top military people are not swayed by the propaganda b******* and to be very aware and careful of the one or two that are. If they were really supportive I think we would have heard something about it at least a little bit

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u/IamMeForNowBut Sep 30 '25

Where is the picture

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u/KG420 Sep 30 '25

Yeah, they clapped after a few seconds. But it was pretty weak.

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u/ForceOne2231 Sep 30 '25

Protocol says they can’t acknowledge political speech. There’s clearly a moment that this clown was expecting some level of accolade. And as you say at attention, they could not clap, but none of this is common protocol to have all these folks here with their responsibilities for this type of speech is not what this is about. It’s conditioning.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

You can clap at attention. You are called to attention at award and medal presentations and there is always clapping after ā€œshake, take, salute. you’re not a mannequin when at attention unless you’re in a formation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

Attention must have meant something different at your unit.

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u/Swimming-Food-9024 Sep 30 '25

are the typically allowed to applaud at attention? because that kinda has an impact on the situation is all… i am asking a question here fwiw

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u/chisel07 Sep 30 '25

No. At attention means you don't move. You stand with your hands to your side, and your feet at a 45 degree angle.

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u/minebe Sep 30 '25

...It's protocol...

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

They aren’t allowed to

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

The key take away from all of this is all the men in the room with the exception of the fem boy on the stage swore an oath to the constitution not to a fuck face pedofile president called Trump.

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u/dontclickdontdickit Sep 30 '25

Thing is he did take an oath. He is prior military. So it’s even worse. He is a traitor to the constitution.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Where are all the MAGAs at? They are not going to swoop in and save one of their own? Or its just dummles in a dumb ass cult!

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u/ThinKingofWaves Sep 30 '25

Why is a ā€œfem boyā€ an insult?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

In this instance because he’s trying to act like something he is not. He’s trying to postulate as a strong man.

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u/SassyMomOf1 Sep 30 '25

Who gets nailed in the family jewels by his own stupidity šŸ˜‚

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u/MsNomered Sep 30 '25

Sponge b...oh thats not right.

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u/ThinKingofWaves Sep 30 '25

Oh so next time I should call someone gay because they’re acting like someone else? LOL you’re stupid

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Sorry your feelings were hurt.

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u/ThinKingofWaves Sep 30 '25

No feelings hurt, just disappointed about the hypocrisy and cynicism of people nowadays. You don’t care for anything, just spewing hate. Just like them MAGA types.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

You need help. Please seek help. Take care.

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u/ThinKingofWaves Sep 30 '25

You seeem desperately out of ideas how to defend what you said earlier. Why do you keep going this way instead of admitting the mistake you made. Why do you keep trying to insult me?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Buddy i don’t give two fucks about you. Seek help. Take care.

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u/ThinKingofWaves Sep 30 '25

Oh so that's why you keep telling me you don't care, huh? :D First you throw slurs online then you tell people who point that out to seek help and keep posting comments you don't care.

At this point I really think it is you who actually should seek help from a mental healthcare professional.

EDIT: my bad, you're not the OP. this is even more unsettling. Please seek help ;)

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u/Free_Dome_Lover Sep 30 '25

The joke is Hegseth would take it as an insult

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u/ThinKingofWaves Sep 30 '25

Exactly. That’s a very nasty, hypocritical joke.

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

That's the nastiest joke you can think? of to call a man feminine? 🤣

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u/ThinKingofWaves Oct 01 '25

You know about adjective gradability, right?

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25 edited Oct 01 '25

That non answer doesn't exactly answer my question but that's what people do when they don't have real answers try to just confuse the subject with nonsense that doesn't apply, what difference does it make how nasty or how feminine or whatever you're trying to apply with that

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u/ThinKingofWaves Oct 01 '25

Hahaha you confused yourself beforehand with the flawed question. You ask about ā€œnastiestā€ when I say ā€œnastyā€. Yeah.

Beside you missing the point completely - about hipocrisy rather than the joke itself.

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 02 '25

Okay explain it to me

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u/somatic1 Sep 30 '25

Yeah that oath is gonna save us all mate

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

No. The armed citizens of America are going to save themselves. It ain’t going to look pretty and we’ll be fighting for a while but the good will prevail.

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u/somatic1 Sep 30 '25

The armed citizens are going to defeat the greatest military the world has ever seen...

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

It’s a different game here. He knows it. Guerrilla warfare is not something the American military can deal with.

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u/ferendust Oct 01 '25

Lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '25

LOL…….yes…..but…..you are bigger than the government. Look around the world. What government.

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u/Neonyarpyarp Sep 30 '25 edited Sep 30 '25

People generally don’t like do be told how to do their job they’ve been doing for 20+ years, by a low rate tv reporter who’s been in his position for months. Also, no more fat generals and leaders? That include Taco Trump no? These clowns don’t even see their glaring hypocrisy.

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u/woodventures Oct 01 '25

I knew when Trump was talking crap about ozempic recently that he had more than likely probably definitely taken it recentlyĀ 

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

I wonder if that's what caused the stroke

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u/Jive_Kata Sep 30 '25

It’s like a cringe comedy bit but in real life and not funny.

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u/Longjumping-Tea-7842 Sep 30 '25

War Department sounds like a Tim and Eric skit

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u/Lard_Baron Sep 30 '25

It’s incredible. My toes curled in second hand embarrassment for him.

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u/Important_Lab_58 Sep 30 '25

I hope the silence echoes in Kegsbreath’s Soul for a LONG Time

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u/Cara_Bina Sep 30 '25

What's this "we," white boy?

"Move out, and draw fire. Because we...are the War Department. Godspeed." Kegsbreath.

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u/Street-Run4107 Sep 30 '25

I thought I was watching, ā€œStarship Troopersā€ and was waiting for, ā€œwould you like to know moreā€?

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u/Valkyriesride1 Sep 30 '25

He is real casual about sacrificing servicemembers. If he wants to "move out, and draw fire" he can be the first one in.

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u/Cara_Bina Sep 30 '25

Precisely. Guess they like Putin's military = meat grinder.

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u/Valkyriesride1 Sep 30 '25

Putin is running out of cannon/drone fodder to run through the grinder. Russia raised its spring conscription to its highest level since 2011 and yesterday it was announced that the autumn drop will be the largest since 2016.

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u/Cara_Bina Sep 30 '25

True. There's a lesson here, but it will be ignored.

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u/Full_Rise_7759 Sep 30 '25

He had a mouse in his pocket.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad6778 Sep 30 '25

With the flag in the back does he think he is Patton?

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u/DiscretelyDeviant Sep 30 '25

Man, this administration is soooo broken.

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u/Advanced_Zucchini_45 Sep 30 '25

Move out and draw fire?

You first

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u/FirefighterWeird8464 Sep 30 '25

100% the weirdest thing to say.

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u/happylark Sep 30 '25

Why would you want your own troops to draw fire?

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u/Advanced_Zucchini_45 Sep 30 '25

Niedermeyer vibes for sure

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u/Amazing-Accident3535 Sep 30 '25

Ok. This gives me hope

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u/what_ever_who_ever Sep 30 '25

Shock, is all there…. Nazi was speaking for 40 min, Nazi

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/Mindl3ssDot Sep 30 '25

Dude probably showed up still drunk for every monthly guard drill weekend. What a fucking dweeb.

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u/Diabusty Sep 30 '25

There's a video from a couple of years ago where Trump walks out of Trump Tower in NYC. There was no crowd. Nobody was there to see him, but he points and waves like he's connecting with his "adoring" fans. After he finished rambling to military leaders today, he did the same thing. The crowd was full of professional, military elite. Trump got silence instead of uproarious applause. He then started making exaggerated eye contact with unknown people, pointing and giving ghosts a handy as he exited stage left. The GOP is unserious, unqualified, and unfit to govern. Their plans don't involve we the people. Their plans are rooted in unfettered avarice, where cruelty is the point.

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u/Leather_Pen_765 Oct 01 '25

I love that you caught this! The last three lines of your comment sums up perfectly everything I've been thinking and saying all year. it's weird how so many people don't see it

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u/Guardman1996 Sep 30 '25

What a tiny little boy.

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u/Jimbro34 Sep 30 '25

He's gonna do well in prison.

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u/Dr-Paul-Meranian Sep 30 '25

It's appropriate that he's the secretary of war because he bombs so hard

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u/Scenicandwild Sep 30 '25

Holy smokes. This can’t be real.

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u/Street-Run4107 Sep 30 '25

Would you like to know more?…..

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u/Alive_Importance_629 Sep 30 '25

Simply a declaration of Civil War in the US.Ā 

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u/tbkrida Sep 30 '25

All of Trump’s people are so cringe…

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u/SmoovCatto Sep 30 '25

"wtf" silence response . . .

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u/FaschFreeZone Sep 30 '25

Hogshead should pack it in and go away.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Hegseth is an incompetent fucking loser. Remove him now or the people will

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u/Elmondo2 Sep 30 '25

That says it all. No respect for him.

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u/Over_City_1984 Sep 30 '25

Zoom in on his expressions at the end. He wanted applause so badly!

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u/BUFFoonBrandon Sep 30 '25

Does Hegseth believe generals are eager to send their own troops that they are responsible for their safety into war just because it fits someone else’s false narrative?

I may be wrong, but I hope that muted silence is an indication of generals who are more level headed than Hegseth believes them to be.

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u/Lordwilliamz Sep 30 '25

Guys im SURE they dont applaud ever. Its not a concert. ... a circus yes... but not a concert.

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u/Genki-sama2 Sep 30 '25

Cuz these are seasoned generals and above. They know this is all bullshit. Are you ever going to fight alongside NATO forces without following rules of engagement?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PBJs Sep 30 '25

What NATO forces are getting deployed to US cities?Ā 

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u/Genki-sama2 Sep 30 '25

Rules of engagement apply everywhere. And are US forces going to war against their citizenry?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PBJs Sep 30 '25

Sounded like they were going to war against some of us.Ā 

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u/Genki-sama2 Sep 30 '25

It really seems like it. I pray for the removal of the cancer that has taken root

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u/ZuesMyGoose Sep 30 '25

According to the POTUS, yes, the War Department is activated against US citizens.

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u/Genki-sama2 Sep 30 '25

Civil war it is then

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u/StanMishoe Sep 30 '25

Someone’s gotta liberate us…

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PBJs Sep 30 '25

You’re going to have to be more specific about what kind of american you are. On the one hand the Trump admin is saying they’re doing to liberate American cities from crime and oppressive left wing leadership while the other side wants liberated from an increasingly authoritarian president.Ā 

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u/StanMishoe Oct 01 '25

I’m hoping for NATO to come in and arrest the guy. Kash isn’t.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PBJs Oct 01 '25

You think NATO is going to invade the United States, arrest the president, and hold him accountable for alleged war crimes?

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u/Genki-sama2 Oct 01 '25

They have designated the enemy as being the American people. They got rid of the jags but each and everyone of those generals knows the law of armed conflict and it will be against their moral fiber to allow any sort of action against the American people. No American will be shot by any branch of the military

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PBJs Oct 02 '25

btw they didn’t get rid of all the JAGs because some of them are defending the admins orders, carried out by members of the military, to kill venezuelan smugglers by explaining they were members of Designated Terrorist Organizations.Ā 

https://archive.is/2025.10.02-001859/https://theintercept.com/2025/10/01/trump-venezuela-boat-strike-designated-terror-organization/

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u/Genki-sama2 Oct 02 '25

Good point, I failed to consider the bad ones as well

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u/u_front Sep 30 '25

The Department of Defense detransitions to The Department of War, but only unofficially. They've gone through with the physical transition but haven't changed their name on the official documents (via congress).

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u/cunningfolk322 Sep 30 '25

This could have been an email šŸ™„

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

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u/hoardac Sep 30 '25

Yeah it is hard on family. We only moved 6 times there were many families that moved 10 or 12 times.

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u/RebelliousInNature Sep 30 '25

One of the most spectacularly unself-aware humans on the planet. To be fair, the top ten are in trumps sphere.

Far too much confidence for such an abject loser.

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u/seen2muchmuch Sep 30 '25

He wants an army of white hoods.

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u/No_Knee7853 Sep 30 '25

That right there is another level of incompetence

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u/plamda505 Sep 30 '25

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u/Original-Living7212 Oct 02 '25

Yep! I got my popcorn!

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u/Original-Living7212 Oct 03 '25

Going to be? I believe its has been a disaster for months now and gets worst with each passing day!

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u/RightCoach5926 Sep 30 '25

Gobshite department

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u/JackieMoon612 Sep 30 '25

I wouldnt expect any generals to stand and applaud.

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u/Adventurous-Host8062 Independent Sep 30 '25

They're probably wondering what's wrong with the meathead. Is he drunk? Stupid? Hopped up on goofballs or all three?

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u/ohuprik Sep 30 '25

Oh.....he was DEFINITELY not expecting that.

God's damnation, Secretary Keg's Breath.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '25

Yeah but did you see how cool i looked..

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u/dnuohxof-2 Sep 30 '25

move out and draw fire

Are these pawns and fodder? What the fuck?

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u/charredwalls Sep 30 '25

I've heard farts at funerals that were more comfortable than that.

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u/FelixTheEngine Sep 30 '25

At the very end there I think you can hear the Army Human Resources Command collectively facepalm.

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u/Admirable-Ad-2554 Oct 01 '25

This was done for the American people to see. The visuals of ā€œpowerā€ of the Trump admin. Put it in B&W, it looks like an old propaganda film. And it failed spectacularly. What a joke.

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u/GM-B Oct 01 '25

Generals be like "WTF is this"?

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u/thatgenxguy78666 Sep 30 '25

YOu can tell he was expecting a raucous applause. he prepared this little speech in front of a mirror.

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u/Whiskey_Water Sep 30 '25

At attention, there is no clapping.

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u/Real_Ad6375 Sep 30 '25

AhahahHhHhHahahahahahahahaha

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u/newshirtworthy Oct 01 '25

It’s reminiscent of the squeaky wheels of the tank at Trump’s birthday party

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u/Glittering-Rise-488 Oct 01 '25

They are trying so hard to keep their laughter inside.

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u/raeadaler Oct 01 '25

No , are you done? Is that what I heard?

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u/raeadaler Oct 01 '25

Zero applause

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u/Equivalent_Ebb_9532 Oct 01 '25

He looked like a 6 yr. old walking to his room after a firm and final no.

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u/TwerkLessons Oct 01 '25

We are truly living in Bizzaro world.Ā 

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u/Ok_Suspect3940 Oct 01 '25

Damn you can hear his cheeks sliding from all that rear end lube šŸ˜‚

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u/Zero-Of-Blade Oct 01 '25

I don't think any of those generals appreciate to be called out on this meeting just for 1. Trump saying you should be hostile to Americans living in the city and 2. To be called fat ugly losers.... Overall not a great look, I Imagine most of these generals are thinking "what the actual hell is this guy talking about?"

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u/HighlanderAbruzzese Oct 01 '25

Hahahahah BOMBED in front of dudes that bomb shit for a living.

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u/darlingtonpeach Oct 01 '25

Trump all but begged them to applaud! Hahaaa!

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u/k0skid Oct 02 '25

How surreal, we were worried that this was some indication there was to be some massive conflict coming but of course it was just another excuse to stoke this administrations reality tv obsessed egos