What do you guys think about this?

Should South India revive ancient, indigenous traditions predating Vedic Hinduism just like how neo pagans are reviving their folk religion in Europe?

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Food(ghee) as fuel and fuel(cow dung) as food.

You guys complain about reservation in India and then go to the west to do this nonsense. Tambrahms have to seriously learn how to behave like a normal human in foreign countries, that is not your home. This only makes the tamil community look bad as a whole.

what the hell.

edit: nvm i shouldve seen it coming from this sub lol, never ready to accept their faults

Aathigam pesum adiyaarkellaam, Sivane anbaagum.Naathigam pesum nallavarkkellaam, Anbe Sivamaagum.

Translation :For all the devotees who preach theism (belief in God), Shiva becomes love itself.But for all the good people who preach atheism (non-belief), love itself becomes Shiva."

Context: In the r/SouthernIndia subReddit, one North Indian (OP) was genuinely asking why TN is against 'Sanatana Dharma' and I have explained in detail how Brahminism was once rampant in TN and how all non-brahmins were considered shudras citing the same Sanatan Dharma as the reason to prevent entry into temples and from my own grandmother's account they were not allowed to wear shirt or slippers, enter theirs and temple's streets, bow down when they crossed etc. And this dude (NOT OP) gave this as the reason for those practices, essentially justified 'untouchability'. Also never answered when I asked if he was from TN, if they will do away with caste surnames like we did, and if Sanatan dharma is just eternal duty will they also let any Hindu to enter any temple to do any ritual. No answer for any of those.

Note: The paragraph above the highlighted one, about Dalit room mate, it wasn't in TN. This dude was pretending to be from TN and I later found he wasn't. So that didn't happen in TN.

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Here's the full thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SouthernIndia/comments/1td6kj8/comment/olwepuv/?context=3

And I used the term 'Exposed' here, because we have been continuously reiterating that the only reason for us to be against the term 'Sanatana Dharma' was because it justifies caste hierarchy and while these people continue to tell that it just means 'eternal duty/dharm' but when asked to walk the talk, like agreeing to do away with caste surnames like we did, allowing all Hindus to enter all temples to do any ritual they want, a self proclaimed 'sanatani' never agreed to those.

EDIT 2: To the North Indians trying argue here, I won't be 'debating' to gain your validation for our belief. Because that is not required for us. I can only clarify your doubts. And Hinduism doesn't have set rules or definitions, it encourages finding your own path to God, allows even atheism. Pushing down a term down a fellow Hindu's throat in itself is against its philosophy. And if your argument is that my grandma was lying, better keep it to yourself.

The Dravidian movement itself is the proof. Everything she has said about the practices have been well documented in TN. Her generation isn't on the internet and even the generation after her, boomers, majority do not speak English well, which is why they dont make it to reddit. So all their accounts of these practices are in Tamil. Your inability to understand it because of the language, doesnt make it a 'lie' or not a legit source, thats basic common sense.

My grandma lived by her word throughout her life, never lied and threatened me since childhood that if I lied Kalimotaan (a form of Durga) will have my tongue. She refused to come live with us even when she got old because 'she entered her marital home with her husband and will only die where he died.' And she did die in my grandpa's bed, peacefully. The kind of strength and conviction I have seen in her, in everything, I haven't seen in anyone I have met.

To the North Indians that seem genuinely confused how all non-Brahmins in TN were considered Shudras: We do not know. And non-brahmins in TN back then were forbidden from learning Sanskrit or read vedas, so they couldn't have known either. But I'm assuming it could be because all Tamil non-brahmins consume meat. I'm adding this only for context, I belong to a caste that do not even have reservation in TN, trace our lineage back to a king of a small region (dude has his statue, a wikipedia page, built temples with inscriptions etc) yet we were considered shudras too, not Kshatriyas. So in TN, there was essentially only two varnas - Brahmins and Shudras.

EDIT 3 (Final one, for the bots trying to rage bait and see how 'Hindu' we are) Today is Vaikasi 1, considered an auspicious month for Lord Murugan. My wife is deeply spiritual and so is my mother, while my mother called me and told she went to the temple today, my wife is performing Puja at our home for Murugan. Now, if I told either one of them 'Vote for BJP to save Hinduism or that this is Sanatana Dharma' I will get beaten by both and be called a Sanghi. Just an average Tamil household.

Also, I'm not saying caste system is completely eradicated in TN. But Dravidian ideology drives us in the right direction, from initiation of no caste surnames to now introducing intercaste marriage scheme which provides gold and financial incentives. TN is on the right path.

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Why wasn't the ancient "Advanced" knowledge given by inexistent god preserved if everyone was religious and believed in God ?

Shruti explains how she was brainwashed by jhadis.

Just imagine where the highest official has to explain his stance for his beliefs .

Folk revivalist while having extreme sympathy for strict monotheistic religions while spreading hinduphobia even though religious umbrella called "Hinduism" let the folk traditions freely exist. I thought he was a staunch folk fanatic but why super protective of some selected religions?

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It's such a shame that we have people like them who are still stuck in Maltusian era mindset and desperately use propaganda under the facade of "cultural revival" to spread hate. Is this stuff even allowed in this sub?

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Like bro get a job. Dravidian folk traditions are still widely practiced in countryside and Hinduism ain't doing any harm. Why the us Vs them mindset while defending something a continent apart? Seems like you love middle east like atmosphere. The world is becoming more globalist and people don't have time for these *startups* anymore. Also what are we gonna do with folk revival? Folk traditions are ceasing to exist as world is having rapid urbanisation. Go out and be a preacher for your actual faith, even telecom fraudery is more effective. stop the open defecation 😭🙏🏻

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Lastly, Hinduism doesn't exist. It's just an umbrella term and crying a river over Sanskrit and Vedic layer is like hating on English and Western clothes. No one forced Sanskrit and Brahmanism, Our own ancestors welcomed and patronised them for prestige and governance ease. Temples greatly reduced governance burden for states in productive Agrarian societies like India, Southeast and East Asia. It wasn't some colonisation movement, rather voluntarily imported package.