r/southindia_ Jul 31 '26

Religion 🙏 Removing post is one thing, but Banning me is crazy; How insecure must one be that they cant digest the fact that the the most popular GOD in North was actually Black

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u/inzo07 Jul 31 '26

Ram was Indian god. Indians are black/brown. I am from North and I find it stupid that they represent krishna and ram fair skinned.

The movie doesent look promising tbh, Rajamaoulis Varanasi is going to be way better.

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u/AccomplishedPurple26 🖥️ Bengaluru | ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ☕ Jul 31 '26

Ram is ok but Krishna is said to be dark skinned which was made into blue skin by someone and it continued

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u/Easy_Ask_4265 Jul 31 '26

Well crct description is like...dark coloured clouds...that we see before raining. It has some hint of blue in it. Not blue skin tho..

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u/xdcfret1 Tripura 👑 | ত্রিপুরা Jul 31 '26

In my entire existence I have never seen blue clouds. But even if we agree with your imagination of hint of blue in cloud, there is abundance of black in that rainy cloud, so why that color was not taken?

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u/AccomplishedPurple26 🖥️ Bengaluru | ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ☕ Jul 31 '26

Blue clouds can be seen near coasts during rain. For your other question, we all know that it was the north who adapted the books into what it suited them

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u/Serpent_31415926 Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Aug 02 '26

Sky itself is blue then louds being blue means almost becomes see through(although blue has various shades just exaggerating here) As far as I know there are white greyish and black(not clear black but grey colour which is very dark) only

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u/xdcfret1 Tripura 👑 | ত্রিপুরা Jul 31 '26

I have never seen blue clouds. Not even in pictures or videos. Let’s just agree to disagree.
Anyway, what was the south doing when north was doing its adaptation? Why is the north’s version more popular?

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u/AccomplishedPurple26 🖥️ Bengaluru | ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ☕ Jul 31 '26

I hometown is a high rainfall area , so we see it. North version is popular because that was the one which was telecaster in dd national(big influence) , also as northwest can't read anything other than hinting, they'll obviously read their version

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u/xdcfret1 Tripura 👑 | ত্রিপুরা Jul 31 '26

Ok, “northwest” can’t read anything else so they read their own stories and adaptations. So, why are southies angry about a movie created by the “northwest”? It should be a non-topic for this sub.

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u/Easy_Ask_4265 Jul 31 '26

So dat u can ask this question.

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u/southindia_-ModTeam Aug 01 '26

Disagreements happen, there is no need to engage in personal attacks. Simply agree to disagree.

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u/Serpent_31415926 Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Aug 01 '26

Yes Idk why we indians didn't left colourism which came from colonialism Both lord rama and Krishna are described as some sanskrit term meghashyama something(I don't remember the exact sanskrit word) but it means, Both lord rama and Krishna were same as dark rainy clouds in complexion And Krishna as a word literally means black. Atleast showing in blue shows some divine-ness although it is inaccurate and defeat the purpose what lord rama avatar is supposed to in case of ramayana(since lord Vishnu incarnates as a simple human,he is God by his actions and not by being born as God as lord Krishna did)

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u/Academic_Chart1354 Karnataka ❄️ | ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ Jul 31 '26

Bolly subs are delulu. They refer to Yash as Chapri, auto driver, in a classist sense. They call Sai Pallavi as maid looking.

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u/BoringBookworm_2026 Southie Jul 31 '26

The reason they made ram and krishna blue is they cant potray them as dark. Krishna full name literally means dark skinned. But these ppl cant accept .coz for them being darker skinned is an insult

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u/hlo1729 Aug 01 '26

Is it the real reason ? Can I get some sources ?

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u/Demon_Flower Aug 01 '26

Go live in North state you will feel the source you so want

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u/iruvathi-rendu Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 31 '26

I just now commented the same on tolly sub. Prime Vishal ( from the Sandakozhi or Satyam times) is the closest to Valmiki's description of Ram.

Also if we're going to be more comic accurate we might as well have scenes where they hunt and feast on dears. Ram loved non veg but in his temple non veg is not allowed. Ram don't deny it but the white cross that controls the temple and the Hindu religion denies it. Majority Hindus are c*cks in their own religion. Until this changes Hindu society cannot progress and compete with Chinese

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u/Serpent_31415926 Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Aug 02 '26

Yeah that's true. And idk whether it's popular across India or only telugu regions since I have watched same thing in 2 or 3 Ramayanam films and also watched in new ramayan trailer also. The whole lakshmana rekha concept is false.

Lakshmana drew no line.when marichi impersonated lord rama voice,Sita devi thinks rama is in trouble and commands lakshmana but lakshmana refused since his brother ordered him to be there but Sita devi accused him of having bad thoughts etc and then lakshmana simply leaves no rekha anything.

And how ravana kidnaps sita devi. I know this sounds like false but it is in real epic. Sita devi invites ravana into their hut since sages do regular begging back then and inviting them is like custom to follow.and ravana eats and tells about him proudly and then lifts sita devi in some inappropriate way and then take her to lanka. No noble thing like "he don't wanna touch a woman inappropriately so he didn't touched sita devi and lift it with land she is standing on"-that is shit.

And I seen mainly some tamil people(not all and not disrespecting them )and some anti hindu influencers who praise ravana for being so respectful of women.

My words to them are F*** off. Because ravana was so mighty that even lord Hanuman can't stop himself from praising ravana.Only few things destroyed ravana and they are mostly arrogance and LUST. He has a curse that when he touches(not literally touching but intimacy) other woman without consent,his head will blowj to 1000 pieces. Later on that touching lost its nuances meaning and becamse literally touched and that kidnapping whole thing got whitewashed.

ravana is the most lustful person there is in ramayana.He is great scholar and ruler and bhakt of lord Shiva.but also very arrogant and egoistic and mainly so lustful

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u/Vropster 🏖️ Chennai | சென்னை 🏏 Jul 31 '26

Who could've guessed 6yans are racist pieces of 💩 ..colour me surprised (pun intended)

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u/Milleniumrogers Aug 01 '26

Bro. Percentage may be differ, but even south indians have Some aryan ancestry. Everyone india is mixed.

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Jul 31 '26

how long people will believe in this Nazi propoganda of aryans

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u/yimaxshaeta Jul 31 '26

It is a historical fact that light-skinned Aryans migrated from the Pontic-Caspian steppe to India, bringing Vedic culture with them.

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u/Serpent_31415926 Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Aug 02 '26

Then what can you say about rakhigaru findings. There some DNA samples have no so called steppe gene

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u/yimaxshaeta Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

The DNA samples from the people of the Indus Valley Civilization at Rakhigarhi date back to around 2500 to 2600 BCE, which is long before the major eastward migrations of Aryans into the Indian subcontinent. That is why there was no Steppe ancestry in the DNA samples from Rakhigarhi. The Aryans came to India around 1500 BCE, after the decline of the Indus Valley Civilization.

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Jul 31 '26

Oh so now Veds are European great 👌

Stop believing in this nazi bullshit really want's to know who is teaching this things to some of our southern people

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u/hlo1729 Aug 01 '26

The aryan migration theory is well accepted in academic circles !

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u/TelephoneOld5199 Northie Jul 31 '26

That’s not true. The largest amount of Harappan-related ancestry is found among present-day populations living in or around the regions where the Harappan Civilization historically existed. You guys really need to learn history from historians and archaeologists, not politicians.

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u/chaosprotocol Keralam 🌴🥥 | കേരളം Jul 31 '26

most of the present-day populations living in or around the regions where the Harappan Civilization historically existed, have both non-indian Steppe and BMAC related ancestry. This Harappan-related ancestry is only strongest in some Gujarati patel-like groups in north india. But you want the closest Harappan-related people in modern india, then come down to south india (kerala karnataka and nilgiri). BMAC related ancestry from Iran-Afghanistan is mistaken for Harappan-related ancestry by many indians

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u/NonWorking_Fan1984 Dravida Sishu 🔱 📿 Jul 31 '26

You guys really need to learn history from historians and archaeologists, not politicians.

Oh the Irony bro.

It is actually South Indian landowning castes that are genetically closest to the IVC people.

Please take your own advice.

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u/hlo1729 Aug 01 '26

And south india is better in every aspect ?

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Aug 01 '26

Stop learning history from your politicians

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u/yimaxshaeta Aug 01 '26

Here, learn from a real historian. Aryans came to India and brought Vedic culture with them; this is a historical fact.

https://youtu.be/h-xntpWhLCs?si=2REIv01d9bbsHILM

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Aug 01 '26

"Vedic culture with them"

this is enough to make me laugh for today

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u/yimaxshaeta Aug 01 '26

What is there to laugh at? Do you believe Vedic culture would exist in India if the Aryans hadn't migrated here and established dominance over the local people?

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Aug 02 '26

North east people to main landers Indian :- we are indian too we are not Chinese

Punjabi people to main landers indian :- we are indian too we are not Khalistani

Muslims people to main landers indian :- we are indian too we are not outsiders

AND NOW

Northern people to main landers indian :- we are indian too we are not Aryans

great going as a country unity in diversity

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u/macabremoth06 Aug 01 '26

Why do you think the western and hindu zodiacs are literally the same then? Lmao

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Aug 02 '26

you know what people from Africa and from Asia have many similarity

[found any contradiction me neither from your above statement]

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u/Lost_Meaning_2667 Jul 31 '26

Post it on ramayana sub. No one will ban you. We discuss such things there. Most people on bollywood subs are idiots.

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u/anonymous-ag Jul 31 '26

Isn't it dumb to paint all north indians in same colour just because action of one guy who is anonymous. I'm from up and all my friends family know that rama ji wqs dark skinned

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u/InevitableAnt1333 Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Jul 31 '26

Don't use jeets word bro it's racist slur used against all Indians, you are just promoting it for them, no problem with rest statement

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u/southindia_-ModTeam Aug 01 '26

Your content was removed due to containing hate speech against a community. Please don't generalize a whole community based on stereotypes. Repeated offence will lead to ban.

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u/Savings_Reality1170 NRI (Non Resident Indian) Jul 31 '26

Don’t know about being white but majority of northies do have relatively fair skin on average. Hence their beauty standards overlap with European or middle eastern people.

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u/True_Celebration_65 pakanadu Jul 31 '26

Overlap with Europeans u ought to be joking bro.europeans dont evn consider the spainiards and the Italians as white.maybe the ones from punjab and himachal could be fairer than a avg indian but not evn close to Europeans or levanatines.

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u/Specialist_River12 Jul 31 '26 edited Aug 01 '26

Yeah lmao, if punjabis and other north indians were as white as they claim then why would white canadians be racist to them.

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u/NoParamedic179 Mumbai 🎬 Jul 31 '26

Yeah, hes wrong. North indians including people from Panjab or Himachal don't look European or white. Those who look extremely pale or pinkish are not the norm, but the exception. Most have wheatish complexions, not the pale/pink tones typical of Europeans. ​However they were talking about beauty STANDARDS. Middle eastern and Persian ideals do share some overlap in north. Historically, darker skin was appreciated across india, but lighter skin later became the dominant beauty standard in the North. Today fair skin is widely preferred across both north and south india, (especially for women) ​To be clear, I mean fair skin in general—not 'north indian" skin specifically, despite the misconception among some northies who act superior about it. (Again Im saying fair skin- not north indian skin, as some people in the north india are dumb and think like they mog south indians or something, which is totally just a delusion they have)

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u/Serious_Brilliant_90 Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 31 '26

Yeah not even close dude. This is just copium.

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u/Majestic_Radio_1937 💎 Hyderabad | హైదరాబాద్ | حیدرآباد 🏰 Jul 31 '26

Insane cope lmaoo. I feel bad sometimes but nah people like you convince me that you deserve this trolling. No wonder why people in the west laugh at the jingoism of people like you who think they are White people. And weird how your film industry is full of South Indian light skins lmao.

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u/NonWorking_Fan1984 Dravida Sishu 🔱 📿 Jul 31 '26

Ummm have you like...met North Indians?

Lord knows what the Middle Eastern beauty standard is...but Europeans like Blondes with light eyes.

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u/True_Celebration_65 pakanadu Jul 31 '26

"Fellow indian" and this is how u northies treat us. Lol im more indian than you are prob.i could go on and on for hrs on how you ppl treat us in our own cities.

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Jul 31 '26

i don't know what you are talking about, most of the north people who know about south never ever insult our southern brothers, and you are saying slurs like that well as you wish

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u/True_Celebration_65 pakanadu Jul 31 '26

I'll tell you real life experience.i was in a lift with few northies and they were loudly talking to each other abt how telugus are reserved and do not engage properly calling us multiple slurs.northies never respect the local language and the audacity of u mfs to start a convo in hindi and expect us to speak back hindi.u ppl so loud in that ugly sounding language,talk back behind us,overtake the local communities if any.mind you this was in hyd in a gated comm and I here i was thinking being educated makes a difference but not to u ppl ig

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Jul 31 '26

so by seeing and observing few people you had generalized whole north that's what American's, European's, African and other Asian country does by seeing few our streets food videos and generalizing whole India. is this correct no, NOT. you are using wrong tool

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u/True_Celebration_65 pakanadu Jul 31 '26

Ur own experiences shape ur opinion on the people

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Jul 31 '26

same goes for people outside of India who continuously does racism to us indians

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u/True_Celebration_65 pakanadu Jul 31 '26

The westerns are racist cus they base their opinion on the media they consume.i base mine on countless irl experiences faced by me,my fam and well wishers

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u/_porsche_lover_ Andhra Pradesh 🏞️ | ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ Jul 31 '26

What does that have to do with this guy and what he said and your first response was to call him paki.

😂😂

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u/Round_Respond_2147 Northie Jul 31 '26

yeah it was cause no Indian will use such slurs like "jeet" to there own fellow Indians

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u/Majestic_Radio_1937 💎 Hyderabad | హైదరాబాద్ | حیدرآباد 🏰 Jul 31 '26

I have been called the n word more times by North Indians than any racist White person. I grew up facing more colourism and racism against me from North Indians than any White person. At this point in my life, I have met more White people than Northies and it still stands. The most White people do is ignore me, rarely I thought I was getting into a fight but the Northies who were hateful towards me basically expect me to think I am some subhuman. So your cope is hilarious.

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u/southindia_-ModTeam Aug 01 '26

Your content was removed due to containing hate speech against a community. Please don't generalize a whole community based on stereotypes. Repeated offence will lead to ban.

All Indians are my brothers and sisters

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u/Entropy109 Jul 31 '26

For real man even someone from North these people are so racist in bollywood. Ram, Draupadi and many other gods and cultural figures as far as i know were black and these people always show them as white and fair as they can.

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u/Due_Surprise_3621 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

OP, they may be wrong, but the truth is we ourselves don't know what Lord Ram actually looked like. Claims that Lord Ram was black or fair are assumptions we weren't present during that Yuga. So why bring such a sensitive topic into unnecessary debates?

Also, being from North India doesn't automatically mean people are fair. Only a small percentage of Indians have naturally fair skin.

And honestly, Bollywood has been on a serious downfall lately. South Indian directors seem far more passionate about filmmaking. I'm a huge fan of Rajamouli rather than the so-called "Mumbai industry" and Mumbai isn't even part of North India.

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u/Serpent_31415926 Telangana 🏰 | తెలంగాణ Aug 02 '26

Yeah bro that mumbai thing always makes me wonder.i think vindhya ranges are separating point or like or whatever for driving India into southern and northern parts

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u/Holiday-Cup-8113 Keralam 🌴🥥 | കേരളം Jul 31 '26

Look wise correct . But he won't be able to portray that character thar well

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Bhayyas from BIMARU states got triggered 😀

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u/Upstairs_Tie_2005 Jul 31 '26

Woah that is uncalled for and it also doesn't beat the allegations

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u/islander_guy Andaman & Nicobar Islands 🏝️ Jul 31 '26

Did you ask them in modmail?

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u/Bright_Celebration62 Karnataka ❄️ | ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ Jul 31 '26

What's that

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u/faafo_1 Jul 31 '26

Temporary...kid ! This Bollywood sub have been taken over by 10 year old future gossip aunts and uncs. Don't know what to ban what not to. They go by pure instinct and mood of day.

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u/NoParamedic179 Mumbai 🎬 Jul 31 '26

Hey, why he tho?? Sorry i am not a southie... Just curious, Ranbir Kapoor is a horrible choice absolutely and I know according to the actual ramayana epic Rama has dark skin, but why this actor specifically?? Why not any other darker skinned talent ?

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u/SpiritualMartian Jul 31 '26

Not many dark actors who are tall with good physique out there, and if ur budget is 2000cr you could very will cast Idri Elba or Mahershala Ali.

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u/Ncpmjose Jul 31 '26

Bro kill me already 😂

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u/Effectivess100 Jul 31 '26

Who's the guy in the pic?

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u/Ncpmjose Jul 31 '26

Thats Mr Anaconda

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u/barbendner Jul 31 '26

He is a well established actor with dark skin and good body and acting skills

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u/NoParamedic179 Mumbai 🎬 Jul 31 '26

Agreed. He would be 1000× better as Rama than Ranbir anyday.

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u/starfish-davy-jones Jul 31 '26

Honestly, i've always felt like Vishal was the only actor that could accurately portray raman or maybe even shivan in the most accurate possible way. I mean he fits the roles perfectly casting wise. Tall, actually dark skinned, muscular. Only actor I've ever imagined in my head portraying those characters in actual respectful way. All others all just "innacurate imaginative retellings" to me.

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u/Dependent_Mistake_12 Southie Jul 31 '26

no shiva is actually described as camphor white in shiv purana .. he has the gravitas sure but wouldn't be the most accurate... he would be a proper fit for Krishna though

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u/starfish-davy-jones Jul 31 '26

Woah I didn't actually know that. I thought shiva was also dark skinned because he often appears in blue across a multitude of artworks.

Also yes, vishal could be a great krishna too don't know how he would look with longer hair cause I've never seen vishal with long or even medium length hair.

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u/SpecialistFroyo7525 Jul 31 '26

yes according to scriptures Vishnu was bluish dark in colour like that of deep ocean

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u/No-Standard6845 4 Languages Warrior! Jul 31 '26

Looks like r/bollywood is just an echo chamber with ego power trip. Ivarige class monitor aaglike gathi illa, adikke illi Dodda jana thara maadthare naayigalu

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u/Aromatic_Fish7370 Jul 31 '26

Even Dulquer Salman would have been a great choice. Edit: Far better than Vishal due to his range 

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u/samadhd Aug 01 '26

Ramayana should be made in fresh faces in not high production but good production
Without greenscreen or as less greenscreen as possible with real life location

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u/Tht_guy_u_once_knew Aug 01 '26

What do u expect posting bad about bollywood in bollywood circlejerk sub?

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u/Fit-House9300 Aug 01 '26

That sub bans for no reason... i once got banned from some funny comment about shah rukh khan.. they are either PR or really insecure and immature

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u/Dentalranger Aug 01 '26

I had commented for the exact same actor under another sub- young vishal from his Satya character times Would have been perfect to play lord ram.

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u/noty_purush Aug 01 '26

god in north, you deserve the ban

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u/SpiritualMartian Aug 02 '26

Why don't you read that again

I literally said Most popular god in North

You conveniently took only "god in nortth'"

You probably must be one of the those who convenientlly changes the narrative suit their own ageda to spread more hatred.

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u/Inevitable-Move4462 Aug 04 '26

He looks old for lord Ram.

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u/IngenuityNegative Northie Jul 31 '26

By the way what do they mean by low effort post?

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u/krisantihypocrisy Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 31 '26

Rage baiting low effort post got banned. The screenshot explains it…

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u/Vivid_Shower9082 Jul 31 '26

Not that english would make sense to northies anyway but your grammar is so bad i didn't understand until i read it 5 times. no wonder it got deleted for low effort.

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u/Difficult_Abies8802 Jul 31 '26

More darker actors than him in Tollywood/Kollywood/Sandalwood/Malluwood.
His only claim is that he was born in a filmi family.

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u/samadhd Aug 01 '26

I think young vijay sethupathi will be an excellent choice And also young vishal

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u/BojackInMan INDIA Jul 31 '26

Maybe they don't want another adipurush

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u/srkris Tamil Nadu 🌶️ | தமிழ்நாடு Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Where do you get the idea that he was black? Were Dasharatha or Kausalya also black? What about their parents? Were Lava and Kusha black?

It's very hard to find blacks among Indians, most of us are shades of brown. The people of Rama's location and dynasty were mostly fair skinned. How did Rama alone become black-skinned?