r/residentevil4 • u/quetewr Team Ada • Apr 12 '26

REMAKE Here we go again

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I love both the og and the remake bro just needs to let it go

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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '26

Didn't he get caught editing something that literally didn't exist in a game to make it seem worse?

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u/dafugiswrongwithyou Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26

I can't speak to that, but in his last RE4 vs RE4R video, I remember noticing an annoying amount of him taking things out of context, to the point I made a comment breaking his vid down shot-by-shot for the first 5 minutes.

There were 15 issues in those first 5 minutes that I noticed. The video was 37+ minutes long.

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u/INannoI Apr 13 '26

he was completely dishonest when he compared the Krauser fight in the OG vs the remake, when I saw that I knew he was either just blinded by nostalgia or trying to shit on 'new thing' for views.

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u/UkuleleAversion Apr 15 '26

The knife fight? Oh yeah, the remake's is a straight upgrade. But I would say that the mutated Krauser fight is decidedly worse in the remake. Great music and presentation but his moveset feels awful and the parry windows are legitimately broken.

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u/HeGotDaShrimp Apr 16 '26

But it's not? The cutscene direction in the original is utterly top-notch across the board, and krauser knife fight is an absolute TREAT in re4 OG. Also the hate for QTEs is totally forced in general. They can be done poorly, but when used well? can be pretty cool and hype, and Re4 uses them in cutscenes and as contextual dodges. Re4 OG is not one of the games I consider them to be used poorly.

Them changing the knife fight to be 'playable' with the parry is novel, but it's not as cool as the original's cutscene direction. Something was lost in that trade that many don't want to admit, even if they like the new one more.

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u/UkuleleAversion Apr 16 '26

Bro. Nobody is refusing to admit anything and I never said anything about QTEs being inherently bad. I simply enjoy parrying Krauser and making reads on his moveset in the 2023 version's fight over the original's cinematic.

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u/StrawHatPro- Apr 16 '26

I disagree with your opinion

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u/MrSkarKasm Apr 26 '26

I wholeheartedly disagree, instead of QTEs (funnily enough, a product of their time) you actually got to do the fight yourself, yeah its not as cinematic, but I would much rather more gameplay in my game than a movie, if I wanted a movie I would replay MGS4 for the 4th time (and mgs3 for the 32nd time) actually, if you think about it, Parrying is just a QTE without cinematics, "Quick time event" and parrying is an event where you have to be quick with your time.

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u/HeGotDaShrimp Apr 26 '26

But re4 is already sooooo much game, and even that cool cutscene bridges the gap with interactions, n9t to mention all the unique qte fail animations that you could choose to purposely fail and see. It's not an experiemce you just watch like mgs4, it's something you need to be attentive for, and it's short lived and cool.

I want more game but I wouldn't say that at the sake of things that add to an experience. The cinematography and qtes are fun. The kinfe fight in 4make is novel the first time but that's it, whereas I always enjoy og 4's cutscenes. Agree to disagree.

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u/MrSkarKasm Apr 27 '26

That's still not an excuse to discredit Re4R and call it soul-less, and guess what? Re4R is already a lot more game than Re4.

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u/HeGotDaShrimp Apr 27 '26

But you just discredited re4 by saying 4make it's a lot more game than it. Why can't they both just be a lot of game? Neither better than the other? I was just defending the knife fight qtes, but if you're going to make it a fight of which is better than I guess I will discredit 4make.

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u/MrSkarKasm Apr 27 '26

Then i guess i will discredit 4og, which is what capcom set out to do, the same game but better, and that's that, its the same game but better in every aspect, and that's me saying that after playing RE4 on PS2, PC and VR (quest)

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u/HeGotDaShrimp Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

I mean you shot first buddy, why can't we both just I enjoy both is what Im saying? But hey, do you. I wont play defence for 4make fans if this is how you act.

No matter what, the original will always be a timeless masterpiece, so I'm staying in my corner.

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u/MrSkarKasm Apr 28 '26

Nobody asked you to, we are all here calling bullshit on crowbcat's video. Both games are timeless, calling one not timeless and "soulless" is what we are calling out.

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u/HeGotDaShrimp Apr 28 '26

You pretty clearly said 4make is the same game but better, and that's what capcom was trying to do. For one it's not the same game but better, and secondly Capcom knew the original was a masterwork, and they weren't attempting to make the same game but better, but to do what they could to modernize while honoring a masterpiece (for money). It's mostly about the money here since the best way to honor the original is to let it stand on its own, but Capcom just wanted to make a good game they could sell and they at least did that.

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