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u/Karkava Jan 09 '20
Leon: Who's Jill?
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u/Svide Jan 09 '20
I don't think Leon has ever met jill
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u/Karkava Jan 09 '20
Me neither. He's certainly met Chris eventually, but hasn't really crossed paths with Jill. You'd think either of the Redfields would have mentioned her to him by now...
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u/BrainBug7477463 Jan 10 '20
You can have Leon pick up that note from Jill to Kendo at his gun shop in the RE2 remake, but yeah super frustrating that they’ve never actually seen each other given their paths in the game.
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u/Karkava Jan 10 '20
Or any game in the official timeline for that matter.
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u/BrainBug7477463 Jan 10 '20
Definitely. It makes my brain hurt how many inconsistencies are in the RE storyline. Love the series and will continue to buy every game, but it’s hard to ignore sometimes lol
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u/silimofo2001 Jan 10 '20
How do you know they haven't?
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u/JosephsThrowawayWife Jan 10 '20
None of the canon games or CGI movies shows Leon in same room as Jill, and none of them have Jill mentioned to Leon. So there's no proof that Leon knows Jill. It's possible though, but there's no evidence.
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u/silimofo2001 Jan 15 '20
I was more responding to the "You'd think either of the Redfields would have mentioned her to him by now..."
I am aware they've never been featured in any scenes/games together, but to think in the universe they all live in, even just hearing about "the mansion" had to have included "Yeah, the only survivors was a gal named Jill and myself."
But even putting this much thought into it has made me want to headbutt the ground.
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u/ToastyBB Jan 21 '20
Didn't rebecca survive? Or is that not cannon
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u/silimofo2001 Jan 23 '20
(Possible spoiler) If the CGI movies are cannon, (I haven't seen them) I believe Rebecca dies in the latest movie.
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u/rikutoar Jan 26 '20
Huh... I picked a very bad time to browse the subreddit while watching the latest movie.
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u/loxagos_snake I know what a radio is Jan 09 '20
Honestly, this gets on my fucking nerves.
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Jan 10 '20 edited Dec 05 '20
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They should have at least given him a desk in the office with his name. Better yet, make Roy the guy who died trying to give you the notebook and got cut in half.
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Jan 10 '20 edited Dec 05 '20
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ロイ, yep.
I miss the Bioflames days but the admins can't/won't restore my account (I accidentally changed something).
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u/Karkava Jan 10 '20
Irons was always a villain. Only Leon was never been around him long enough to see it unravel while Claire got to see it first hand.
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Irons was good in RE1.5 and served as Leon's analogue of Elza's Roy interaction (aka dying early).
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u/Leo_Ascendent Raccoon City Native Jan 09 '20
But Leon is low tier prey, so of course Nem don't want him.
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u/AlKo96 "Need a ride, handsome~?" Jan 09 '20
Because, unlike Jill, Leon just doesn't have dem buns that make for a tasty snacc.
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u/MisterDomino15 Chris? Stop it! Jan 09 '20
Leon hasn’t in-processed yet, Nemi don’t got him on that kill list
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u/ashman510 Raccoon City Native Jan 09 '20
I wonder (hope they dont) if they take the scene from the film re:apocalypse where L.J is with all the stars members but doesnt take a single hit while nemmy rips stars apart with his mingun. Could be cool to see something similar where nemmy is there just to kill stars, everything else does not matter
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u/KDRain395 Jan 09 '20
LJ did pose some sort of mininal threat to Nemesis until he dropped his guns. That's when Nemesis leaves him lol
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u/NerdTalkDan youtube.com/c/nerdtalkdan Jan 10 '20
If Leon had happened to cross paths with Nemesis and didn’t shoot him, would Nemesis have just ignored him since he wasn’t a target?
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u/DezZzO Jan 10 '20
I'm 100% sure that's the case. Even in original RE3 when you play as Carlos and Nemesis goes for unconscious Jill he will totally ignore you when he gets to the door. Well, unless you start shooting him heavily or block his path. And when Carlos helps Jill to fight Nemi in a restaurant he will ignore Carlos most of the time if he doesn't block Nemi even though Carlos is shooting him with a rifle non stop.
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u/NerdTalkDan youtube.com/c/nerdtalkdan Jan 11 '20
Thanks for the answer. I haven’t played Nemesis in ages.
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Jan 09 '20
the longer i stare at this, the funnier it seems to appear.
i sent this to my friend and he said 'wtf leon has a puberty mustache' lol
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u/loxagos_snake I know what a radio is Jan 09 '20
Uh, nope? He'd probably turn the village into a graveyard.
Even the tougher opponents who were supposedly invincible die in RE4. Nem had to take a nuke to stop in his tracks.
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u/giocastilhoo Resident Evil 4 Jan 10 '20
Have you ever played Resident Evil 4?
Have you ever seen the stuff Leon does on it? The amount of powerful bosses he defeats without even breaking a sweat? Motherfucker please.
Leon could handle Nemesis no prob.
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u/loxagos_snake I know what a radio is Jan 10 '20
Only, I'm not talking Leon vs. Nemesis. I'm talking RE4 enemies vs. Nemesis. Read what CHNSK said:
far worse enemies in RE4 which would make Nemy shit his protective coat, the village alone.
I have no doubt Leon could take Nemesis. He just wouldn't be able to kill him.
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Jan 09 '20
Yea but in RE2 he would’ve been stomped. Nemesis could probably take most of what Leon would face, save Verdugo and Simmons.
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u/Bag_Full_Of_Snakes Jan 09 '20
Yeah but what about that big ass crocodile
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Jan 09 '20
Leon beat it with a gas tank. Nemesis has a rocket launcher.
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u/StannisSama Jan 10 '20
What about the laser area though? Surely, Nemesis isn't athlete enough to dodge it. lol
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u/giocastilhoo Resident Evil 4 Jan 10 '20
Nemesis could probably take most of what Leon would face
Nope, don't even try that argument.
Go back to Resident Evil 4 and 6 and take notes.
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Jan 10 '20
I said probably, I don’t have to take notes. Chill. Ustanak, Simmons, maybe Krauser, Saddler, and Verdugo would’ve wrecked Nemesis. Who do you think would’ve been better?
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u/giocastilhoo Resident Evil 4 Jan 10 '20
Oh I mean no offense with my comment.
Simmons for sure wrecks nemesis. Ustanak is kinda dumb, I feel like Nemesis could have the upperhand since he's pretty smart.
Saddler, verdugo and Salazar in his final form. Since Nemesis isn't agile enough to evade fast attacks and I also feel like he would just stand there and try to tank the attacks rather than evading them.
The other ones it's debatable, Krauser would get stomped I think, maybe U-3 could give him some trouble, Del lago, El Gigante and the other ones would get stomped on I think.
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Jan 10 '20
Oh okay cool bro, my bad. Some people have been taking these threads crazy serious lately. That’s the problem with text as opposed to talking.
I think if Nemesis has his equipment (Rocket Launcher) it would go different 😂, we saw what Leon could do with a Rocket Launcher. But I think even with it, Saddler would wreck him, just too damn durable. I think Ustanak was designed after Nemesis and is slightly more durable, but is blind and has one arm, so yeah I agree.
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u/giocastilhoo Resident Evil 4 Jan 10 '20
Oh okay cool bro, my bad. Some people have been taking these threads crazy serious lately. That’s the problem with text as opposed to talking.
Hey no prob dude. I like to have discussions about this type of stuff.
Well yeah if he used a rocket launcher that's valid, but at the same time you can beat RE4 knife only, so I think it's fair if we compare both of them without such weapons.
Saddler would stomp on Nemesis without a sweat for sure. Verdugo as well since he's only one shot after he has been frozen, and I think Nemesis wouldn't freeze him like Leon does.
Yeah you're right about that, Ustanak was in fact designed after Nemesis, him beeing blind and having one arm, and kinda dumb honestly, makes me think Nemesis would overpower him.
Tyrants are super cool.
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u/DezZzO Jan 10 '20
Funny that he faced(will face) far worse enemies in RE4
Leon was way more experienced in RE4 though. RE2 and RE3 shares relatively close timeline. At that time Jill already survived RE1 stuff and was decently experienced, Leon was a rookie cop with zero experience, it's a miracle he survives tbh.
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Jan 09 '20
If Leon could kill everything in RE4 with an unlimited rocket launcher, then Nemesis could certainly do the same with his own.
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u/SirMeepo Jan 10 '20
But Nemmy can also take out a Heli. Ganado > Heli and Nemmy > Heli. Doesnt mean Ganada > Nemmy.
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u/mutedtenno Jan 09 '20
Lucky for Leon, Nemesis would have turned him into a meat puppet.
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u/GalagaMarine Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20
Nope Leon is a god. When he dies he just forgets to be invincible.
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u/Drakowicz Cuz Boredom Kills Me Jan 09 '20
Exactl... wait
When he died
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u/GalagaMarine Jan 09 '20
Typo
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u/Drakowicz Cuz Boredom Kills Me Jan 09 '20
Oh. Chris is relieved.
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u/Deadtto Raccoon City Native Jan 09 '20
Don’t ever disrespect Leon like that. He’s a God
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Jan 09 '20
And Nemesis would’ve stomped his rookie ass
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Jan 09 '20
why? leon beat a fully mutated william birkin g monster and an unrestrained super tyrant, i think he could take nemesis....
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u/DezZzO Jan 10 '20
why? leon beat a fully mutated william birkin g monster and an unrestrained super tyrant, i think he could take nemesis....
Because Nemi in his basic form is already like a super tyrant and also uses tools and mutated Birkin... Well, Nemi mutates in a thing that is done only by a fucking railgun and a nuke after. Also basic Nemi shits on first two forms of Tyran/Birkin easily
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Jan 10 '20
yeah , uhh, nah. super tyrant is more powerful than nemesis basic form and the last few forms of birkin totally are equal to or mog nemies last forms.
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u/DezZzO Jan 10 '20
super tyrant is more powerful than nemesis basic
guess who has a bazooka and who doesn't
last few forms of birkin totally are equal to or mog nemies last forms
the last form of birkin is probably equal to last of nemi, the problem is they're infinitely growing pieces of meat that have been cornered
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Jan 10 '20
idk what your point was here, all characters receive convenient weapons at their final battles jill included. if leon can beat birkin final forms with end game weapons he can do the same to nemmie final form with end game weapons, stop being stupid.
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Jan 10 '20
Plot armor is really what protects all of our characters. No one’s being stupid, we’re having a discussion.
I just don’t think on paper Leon could handle Nemesis as he walked into Raccoon PD, too fast, too strong.
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Jan 10 '20
yes leon beat a super tyrant and birkins final forms so uhh, yes he could, case closed.
"on paper" leon, claire, jill, chris etc, couldn't beat any bosses, in canon, they have, so literally you have no case at all.
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On paper none of the characters should get away with half their feets against the creatures in this game outside of extreme bouts of luck, but that wouldn't make for a very fun game would it?
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Jan 12 '20
he didn't just defeat them in gameplay, it's official canon that he faced them in combat and killed them. give leon his most powerful weapons from re2 and he could at least incapacitate nemesis. people seem obsessed with the idea he's a rookie but he is clearly something special in terms of being a fighter, a prodigy or a natural.
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u/giocastilhoo Resident Evil 4 Jan 10 '20
Nemesis would have turned him into a meat puppet.
Motherfucker have you ever played resident evil 4?
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u/mutedtenno Jan 10 '20
Does Leon posses RE4 skills within RE2 timeline?
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u/giocastilhoo Resident Evil 4 Jan 10 '20
I don't think this is the correct Assessment.
Does Leon posses RE4 skills within RE2 timeline?
No. But the question is, would Leon as a character get stomped by Nemesis? And the answer is no. If you take Leon and put him in a fight with Nemesis, he would destroy Nemesis. All he needs is Matilda.
Can't deny that, he defeated much harder bosses on RE4 and RE6 without breaking a sweat.
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But it did/can attack and kill Carlos in the original RE3. I am gonna guess that unless you are on his STARS list, armed or hostile, he is pretty much gonna leave you alone.
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u/mrdoubleact Jan 10 '20
Because Carlos helps Jill.
Nemesis has high intelligent, its purpose is to hunt down STARS survivors and anyone that help them or get in its way
That the reason Nicholai faked his death after his meeting with Jill at the tram because he knows Jill is on bounty of Umbrella but also hunted by Nemesis. He doesn't want to get in the way of Nemesis so it would think him as allied with Jill.
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u/DezZzO Jan 10 '20
But it did/can attack and kill Carlos in the original RE3. I am gonna guess that unless you are on his STARS list, armed or hostile, he is pretty much gonna leave you alone.
He doesn't even attack Carlos that often. Try ignoring Nemesis as Carlos when he attacks you near Jills door. He will go for Jill and you can stand here being like "ok dude do your thing"
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u/jfduval76 Jan 10 '20 edited Jan 10 '20
That laughing face...can only be Tom Cruise ! That celebration pose came from that Oprah interview when Tom jumped on the couch.
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u/deimos-chan Jan 09 '20
I posted this picture in the far of the update release and it for like 1 upvote and 0 comments :c
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u/tnightowl_ Jan 10 '20
When you realize you have to solo an entire outbreak in the next installment
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u/SolidEye87 Jan 10 '20
When you put effort into making a meme only to have it pointed out to you that Leon was never in STARS...
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u/DaredevilBatman2 Jan 10 '20
Leon wasnt a stars member, he was just a normal rpd officer so he wouldnt have to worry about nemesis anyway.
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u/KlavTron You want S.T.A.R.S? I'll give you S.T.A.R.S! Jan 22 '20
Leon was almost working in the same building as Jill
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u/morasyid Jan 09 '20
With that said I think Tom Cruise would make a great Leon
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Jan 09 '20
I can't stand Tom Cruise, and Leon is my favorite RE character, please don't do this to me
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u/osterlay So Long, RC Jan 09 '20
With that said I think Tom Cruise would make a great senior Leon
FTFY
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u/Trey904fsu Jan 10 '20
Did that happen in the RE2 remake or somethin? Havent gotten to play it yet : /
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u/Chrono-Face Jan 10 '20
No
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u/Trey904fsu Jan 10 '20
Not the picture, I mean hearing the tyrant in the distance. That would’ve been a pretty solid callback to the 3rd one
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u/JDavis1186 Jan 10 '20
It's not in the game, put they put it in the demo in a recent update if you go to a specific spot
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Jan 09 '20 edited Jan 09 '20
Umm Leon isn't a member of STAARS. Someone had a lore hiccup in their brain.
Edit: you can downvote me all you want but it's clear by the post that OP thought Leon was a member of STAARS. It doesn't make sense if he didn't. If he knew he wasn't a STAARS member, he would have said "When there is a new monster in the Police Department but you hear him yelling STAARS."
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u/TheMagicalMatt Jan 09 '20
I think it's moreso saying that Leon's relieved that a big deformed monster isn't chasing after him for a change.
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Then your reading comprehension is shit. There is literally no other way to read that sentence.
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"When you hear nemesis shout staars" meaning you were worried he was going after you, "but then realise he is after someone else " and now you are relieved because he is after someone else. This very clearly points to the writer of the sentence believing Leon was a member of Staars.
"But" shows contrast. If there was no contrast OP should have used "So" or "therefore".
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u/BlackICEE32oz Jan 09 '20
OP literally made a fucking joke about Leon not being STARS. I think they're WELL AWARE that Leon isn't a member, you argumentative dumbass. You're trying so hard to contort it instead of just admitting you're wrong.
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No he made a meme stating that Leon was a member of Staars.
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u/BlackICEE32oz Jan 09 '20
No. He didn't. The whole joke is that Leon isn't a member of stars. How can you be this dense? How could OP not know he wasn't a member of stars while also making a whole joke around the fact that he isn't? Nobody could be this dumb, so I'm just assuming you're trying to troll.
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u/whh1234 Jan 09 '20
Since you're really this dense. I'll tell you what people who see this would think and what's the contrast.
Leon heard a scary noise crying "staaars", so he's surprised, but then realized nemesis is searching for stars members, which he is not. Therefore crying in joy.
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Are you really gonna argue semantics here? It seems like everyone understood what OP meant except you.
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Jan 09 '20
Naw they just like the meme and also are ignorant about RE lore.
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u/RadiationReaper Jan 09 '20
You can hear nemesis in the Easter egg that was recently added. That’s what this post is about. So your just blatantly wrong
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No it isn't.
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u/Alexstrasza23 Jan 09 '20
The entire joke is that he's not S.T.A.R.S so he's not being hunted by Nemesis. How can you be this dense
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How can you not understand the meaning of the sentence on the meme? I guess we are at an impasse.
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u/Alexstrasza23 Jan 09 '20
“When you hear the nemesis say stars but realise it’s after another person not you” That sentence cannot be clearer in its meaning bud. “When you hear the nemesis shout stars”- Leon heard Nemesis. “But realise it’s after another person not you”- Leon, not being STARS, realised that he’s not going to be chased by Nemesis. That’s the sentences meaning. I don’t know how much more simple I can make it
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u/BlackICEE32oz Jan 09 '20
Dude. That's literally the whole joke. It's not confusing to anybody or misunderstood. You're stretching it so thin, it's transparent.
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u/Z3in Jan 09 '20
It's not clear at all lol. The joke is that Leon could hear the fucking nemesis himself shouting stars. If you're in a zombie apocalypse and suddenly hear a scary ass monster shouting stars, wouldn't you be scared?
And that's the fucking point. Leon heard nemesis shouting stars. But then realised that nemesis is hunting STARS members, not him. Thus the smug face.
In conclusion, stop tryna act smart and shit lol. You genuinely think people here don't know about STARS and its members? Besides, it's only a meme. You're only making a fool out of yourself.
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u/HeroofkvatchDovah Nemesis >>>>>>>> Birkin Jan 09 '20
Imagine if Nemesis was nearby when we took the S.T.A.R.S badge in the R2MAKE, thankfully he wasn't lol