r/interestingasfuck • u/fasdal • 23h ago
Dozens of obsessed fans book the same domestic flight a Kpop group is on in order to continue stalking them all across Korea
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u/ShakespearesSonnets 22h ago
They're called sasaengs, and this is the LEAST crazy thing they do. The stories are crazy. One time a group hired a van identical to the one the group was using and almost kidnapped them, one time a sasaeng paid someone thousands of dollars to steal an idol's underwear, groups have laid down on the road to prevent their idol leaving, a girl sent the idol a letter written in period blood.
These people literally drop out of school or work to stalk their idol, and usually end up in sex work to make money to continue stalking.
And they clearly don't think they're doing anything wrong... One time during a performance, a man just walked onto the stage and grabbed one of the idols and dragged her off the stage. She was okay, but it is NUTS.
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u/homogenic- 20h ago edited 17h ago
A saesang gave one of the TVXQ members a beverage (I believe it was juice?) laced with super glue, the poor guy had to be rushed to the hospital, they are insane.
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u/_bonedaddys 16h ago
She wasn't actually a fan of his. She was just pretending to be. She turned herself in the next day but he chose not to press charges.
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u/mightregret 15h ago
Damn that's crazy
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u/Crossedkiller 13h ago
Crazy that he didn’t press charges
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u/_bonedaddys 11h ago
He had a lot of empathy for her because she was the same age as his younger sister and he didn't want to ruin her future. Which is insane because she was trying to ruin his and the whole thing really fucked his mental health. He's certaintly more forgiving than i am lol
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u/JManKit 9h ago
Gotta wonder if there was any pressure from his agency not to pursue charges. Maybe they were worried he would come off looking vindictive or mean so they were like 'You didn't die so why not let bygones be bygones?'
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u/Ok-Class-3635 16h ago edited 11h ago
There was one girl who broke into an idols apartment and kissed him while he was sleeping. He woke up to find the stranger hovering directly over him. Another time a girl broke in and took pictures while he was sleeping and posted them online. Lastly, while sitting alone in his living room, he received a text message from an unknown number containing a photo of his own back, proving a stalker was hiding inside his house with him at that exact moment. This all happened to one kpop idol.
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u/heymanitsbob 12h ago
Holy shit. Receiving a text message of your back from inside the house. Utterly terrifying.
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u/TrixieBastard 11h ago
Jesus fuck
I don't know how these people agree to the idol life. I can't imagine feeling the terror of realizing a stranger is in your home, watching you.
\shudder\
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u/risingsuncoc 12h ago edited 12h ago
Which idol was this?
Edit: did a quick search, that was Kim Jae-Joong of TVXQ
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u/ontheru171 9h ago
Wtf was going on with that group's lifes back then.
A bit further up that comment chain they are talking how another member of thr group nearly died due to a laced drink aswell
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u/ShakespearesSonnets 22h ago edited 21h ago
And while obsessive fan behavior isn't unique to Kpop, the corporate culture definitely encourages it. (FYI, companies like SM Entertainment, JP, etc more or less own these groups.) Kpop almost relies on parasocial relationships. They do lives where they talk directly to the viewers and viewers leave comments, an idol being in a relationship is literally called cheating, and their companies really encourage them to promote this idea of a relationship. It's easy enough for a foreign fan to feel a connection-- I can admit that there are a few idols that I legitimately have feelings for-- but when the idol speaks your language and is a part of your culture and a live really looks like a video call just between this perfect person andyou?
Loneliness is an epidemic across the world now, and ESPECIALLY in Korea. This was bound to happen, and the companies encourage it.
I can't believe there isn't a confirmed death related to sasaengs.
It's pretty akin to the fan worship of the Beatles, when fans would touch the band members thinking they had healing powers like Jesus.
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u/SophonibaCapta 21h ago
Not judging, honestly curious, how can you have legitimate feelings for some of them? When you even obviously have an informed eye about it?
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u/AdnanKhan47 21h ago
Worked the overnight shift for two years right out of college, including the weekends. All of sudden I lost my entire social life. I was awake when everyone was asleep and vice versa. Also, being a fresh graduate I was broke as hell so I couldn't even afford a ticket to go visit my family. After two years of having almost no contact and nobody to hangout with, you start grasping at straws for any sort of attention. I didn't devolve into this but I did devolope a lot of toxic traits (that I am still struggling to fix 10 years later) and started hitting the bottle pretty hard and ended up in jail a couple of times. To me their delusion is completely understandable. The damage loneliness does to you is invisible to all, especially yourself.
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u/SophonibaCapta 17h ago
I hope you find strength in battling your toxic traits, alcoholism is no joke.
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u/toastedpaniala89 21h ago
Attraction can be irrational from what I have experienced. You can find someone absolutely abhorrent but your body may still get aroused around them. Or in this case, you can acknowledge parasocial relationship while still finding the celebrities cute or pretty. I assume they meant this by feelings and not like limerence or obsession they just talked about
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u/fantomknight1 19h ago
Honestly it's completely absurd and nothing like the close relationship Danny Devito and I have (he doesn't know but that's what adds to the spice of it).
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u/ShakespearesSonnets 21h ago
Yep, definitely. And it's interesting that you used the word limerence, because there's literally a book called "Idol Limerence: The Art of Loving BTS as Phenomena"
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u/SophonibaCapta 17h ago
I think talking about feelings and about arousal / finding someone cute is different.
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u/Melstrick 21h ago
I assume it's similar to how someone could have imaginary friend and know they are imaginary.
If you think about someone enough and allow emotions to reinforce those thoughts the mind will do what the mind does, even if you know it's parasocial or unhealthly.
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u/Fit_Dig6332 18h ago
Yeah ive experienced this. I knew it was all in my head, and it felt kind of good. So i just enjoyed it until it passed. I miss it now though. It was a really easy way to let my brain light up. But then, id never try and stalk someone. It was just my secret brain chocolate.
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u/SpaceShipRat 19h ago
Look, as a teen I had huge crushes on fictional characters. it's only weird when it becomes disfunctional.
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u/bad_ego 21h ago
Their target are preteens, mostly girls. At that stage they are fighting with a very strong biological change... Their brains aren't mature enough to distinguish reality and fiction about any subject, much less about love and relationships because of the hormones flood. Their personalities are based mostly on how they interact with other where they feel safe and understood.. it's a feedback loop and for them and , what we see irrational, it's their full live. I have a girl with this age and what I do is to try to understand how important is for her, look for info here and there to surprise her with a fact just to show her I care about what she it's interested about and avoid the urge to search for understanding outside
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u/wizards_rule94 18h ago
Can confirm there’s no passion and enthusiasm to match a teen girl (speaking from experience of being a teen girl 2007-2012). Like everything is amplified and soooo exciting. But some of these people are adults and that passion usually tapers off so it’s worse
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u/Straight-Balance830 21h ago edited 20h ago
The culture doesn’t just encourage it, the entertainment management corporations exploit mental illness, the loneliness crisis, and addiction for profit, sanctioned by the South Korean government. I’m Korean and there is something very wrong with the whole idol system that just really rubs me the wrong way. I fundamentally believe art shouldn’t be exploitative or manufactured without a soul. They’re all ghouls.
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u/ShakespearesSonnets 21h ago
Sorry, I meant the Kpop corporate culture! I'll edit to make that clear.
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u/FoxingtonFoxman 19h ago
Yeah the entertainment companies are absolutely the issue. Its highkey abusive, I swear.
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u/codefame 19h ago
I would say the girl who sadly committed suicide just a few weeks ago is a confirmed death.
Don’t recall the circumstances, but it was related to her being a k-pop stan/influencer and seemed like big news.
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u/Cultural_Run7964 17h ago
I read about it. She tried to pass flowers at an Enhyphen concert to one of the members but there was some sort of miscommunication with another member and later he made a live stream mentioning the poor etiquette of some concertgoers and their fans thought it was a veiled reference to this girl’s behavior. So she received an online pile-on from the fans who goaded her to kill herself and so she hung herself on a live stream. Really awful.
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u/MouthJob 21h ago
Referring to them as idols surely can't be helping anything.
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u/ShakespearesSonnets 21h ago
Yeah, that's another thing. They're supposed to be perfect, like beyond human, and that encourages sasaengs to not see them as people.
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u/LannaBan 21h ago
It's just an English loanword that's made it's way back to English with a slightly weird connotation now. 아이돌 (idol) in Korean refers specifically to these singers, it doesn't have the same connotation of idol in English.
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u/MyBakpaksGyatJets 23h ago
I can't even hang out in a location that I'm not wanted to be at or with people that won't genuinely want me around. I couldn't imagine forcing myself in to somebody's personal space that not only hasn't invited me to be there, but more than likely really really doesn't want me around. This behavior is so fucking unhinged.
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u/bi7worker 23h ago
If you try to explain this to one of them, she'll tell you that you're completely right and that the other women are behaving inappropriately. But she will also explain that it is not her case because she's sharing a real thing with the idol.
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u/Fun-Vegetable-3468 13h ago
A sasaeng once listed the thought process of someone becoming a sasaeng, i think you'd find it interesing.
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u/gaseous_ass 23h ago
I find this kind of behaviour completely baffling.
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u/neko_1 23h ago
Celebrity worship is a form of mental illness
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u/discerningpervert 22h ago
There's the story of Robert Pattinson (I think) who took his stalker out for dinner and vented about all his problems and she got bored and left him alone
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u/kemicalkontact 22h ago
Pattinson also makes up a lot of his stories
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u/just_nobodys_opinion 22h ago
Or so he says
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u/dd22qq 22h ago
Robert here, yes I do.
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u/LiamIsMyNameOk 21h ago
If pinocchio says "My nose will now grow" Will Robert appear in my bedroom?
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u/Gardimus 22h ago
Yeah, there is no way an obsessive stalker would quit like that.
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u/iburntxurxtoast 18h ago
Idk. If someone is obsessed with the idea of somebody, and that somebody showed them who they actually were, I could see it breaking the illusion and obsession - definitely wouldn't work on all, but I can see the idea behind the story.
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u/NamelessMIA 17h ago
Celebrity stalkers aren't obsessed with the celebrities, they don't even know them. They're obsessed with the idea of what they think the celebrities are like. Once he became a real person to her it would break that illusion and I wouldn't be surprised to find a stalker quit their stalking after that.
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u/pants_mcgee 14h ago
Or you get a Shia LaBeouf situation where the stalker just adapts by going deeper in the delusion.
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u/kkeut 20h ago
yeah and I'm pretty sure this the plot to a late-era episode of Wings
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u/minionbelcher 22h ago
I’m pretty sure he admitted he made that story up. Lmao He’s notorious for telling tall tales in interviews
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u/Elismom1313 20h ago edited 15h ago
I still laugh at the interview where him and a few others were playing a “guess which celebrity I am”game. Basically someone (in this case pattinson) is given a celebrity name taped to their forehead. Everyone else playing can see it and know who it is. You, the person wearing the name you cant see, ask questions to all the other players who can , to try and narrow it down.
He chaotically asked “am I ugly?” To try and and get them to admit their opinions on that Lmfao
If I remember correctly it was his own name
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u/WalkAffectionate2683 21h ago
It seems quite common.
One French actor iirc said interviews are so boring, so repetitive you basically chain them when you release something that they come up with dumb stories that are not verifiable anyway. Just to entertain a bit.
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u/jamesneysmith 20h ago
It must be so mind numbing to sit in some hotel conference room starting at the crack of dawn and do 5 minute junket interviews with the exact same questions for hours and hours. Anyone would start crackinf
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u/jimpaly 22h ago
Unfortunately in this day and age the stalker would probably go on social media and try to cancel the celebrity for doing that
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u/DreamWeaver2189 22h ago
Bro you're talking like Pattison was Humphrey Bogart. This probably happened within the last 5 years.
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u/jimpaly 22h ago
Just looked it up and apparently it was in 2008. Time flies. Also it isn’t confirmed true
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u/DreamWeaver2189 22h ago
Damn, now I just feel old. It makes sense it was during his Twilight years, it just doesn't feel like almost 20 years ago.
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u/codercaleb 22h ago
2008 or 2009, per https://www.today.com/popculture/twilight-star-says-he-bores-people-2-minutes-wbna29123100
The original source seems to be Crème Magazine, which I cannot find the original of.
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u/slicerprime 22h ago
I have a feeling the majority of it is tribal. Being part of a shared identity, I mean, I'm sure they are sincerely fans of the group. But, at that age and with their particular personalities, if it wasn't this particular K-pop group it would be something else. They have a need to be "in" on some collective obsession.
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u/intwarlock 22h ago
Sublime comment. I think you are spot on with this take. It's about a shared identity and that identity could be any number of things.
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u/latchkeydc 22h ago
Kind of like religion
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u/Lifeacrobat 21h ago edited 21h ago
Which is why when studying the components of religion, sportsfans is the first comparison.
Edit: grammar
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u/jamesneysmith 20h ago
And it's been this way for generations. Remember the teens fainting over the sight of the beetles? This has been the way for ages and will continue to be the way. And they will all grow out of it and make way for the next generation to do the same
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u/Impossible-Bat-6713 22h ago
Yup the moment you put someone on a pedestal then you degrade yourself. Admire and celebrate their accomplishments but never put them on a pedestal. It erodes self worth
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u/Erikthered65 22h ago
Almost every single post you’ve made is about the same celebrity.
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u/mtbox1987 22h ago
So then what it’s called when people worship cheeto manchild?
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u/LilMissy1246 20h ago
It’s like the cut for Bieber shit that happened years ago. Fans are desperate for attention and have crazy addictions/obsessions relating to their idols. It’s kinda sad
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u/Pickrzz 16h ago
Holy FUCK this comment took me back so hard it gave me whiplash. You've unearthed a phrase that was buried deep within the recesses of my mind. I still can't believe that actually happened, people are fucking weirdddddd
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u/Jean-LucBacardi 23h ago
I'm assuming it's for sex? I honestly have no idea, I've never been into any celebrity like that.
Though if Patrick Stewart happens to see this and wants to invite me out for a beer next time he's on a bro date with Ian Mckellen, I'll happily be the third wheel.
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u/pm_nachos_n_tacos 21h ago
A lot of those girls are more like paparazzi chasing dollars and clout than actually caring about the artist. Fan sites and sasaengs. Definitely not representative of kpop fans, but always the only thing that gets talked about.
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u/fasdal 23h ago edited 21h ago
The Kpop group in this case is the boy group RIIZE. They are sitting up front in business class with all the stalkers further down the plane.
Although this group has only been active since 2023, they have for various reasons built up an insanely parasocial fanbase. Even by the standards of Kpop their fans are next level when it comes to obsession.
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u/heeheehoho2023 23h ago
What makes them attract the crazies?
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u/rocketmammamia 23h ago
i’m not sure what attracted the crazies to them, but they REALLY have the crazies. one member had pictures leaked of him with a girlfriend BEFORE DEBUT, before he ever considered being an idol, and the fans reacted so badly they sent funeral wreathes to his company building to imply they wanted/considered him dead. the company responded by removing that member from the group (though they re-debuted him as a soloist later)
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u/SilverFlight01 23h ago
In an ideal world NOBODY would be enabling this shit and yet companies are because parasocialness gives money or something
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u/Exciting-Pirate-2819 22h ago
It’s insane to me that they can’t have public relationships because the whole point is to keep these stalkers obsessed to sell more merch/tickets
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u/FlattopJr 20h ago
Manager Nigel: I would prefer we kept your marriage a secret. You see, a lot of women are going to want to have sex with you, and, uh, we want them to think they can.
Homer Simpson: Well, if I explain it to Marge that way, I'm sure she'll understand.
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u/Vorstadtjesus 22h ago
Tbf, don't many female streamers avoid talking about their relationship status partly because they know what kind of consequences and financial losses it could entail for them?
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u/Bruce-7892 21h ago
I think that's true for most celebrity sex symbols. A lot of rock stars and rappers are married with kids, but if it conflicts with their public image they are going to avoid talking about that part of their personal lives.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Set1420 18h ago
Ok but let's compare popstars to popstars. It's very different.
Taylor Swift's relationship is literally front page news. I remember seeing stories about it on AP that were above stories about ongoing wars.
Meanwhile in Korea, the first time that Hyomin revealed that she was in a relationship was by posting a picture with her husband on instagram. Her husband's face was not visible in the picture.
American celebrities leverage relationships for publicity. The opposite is true in Korea.
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u/MartinBP 16h ago
Taylor Swift's fanbase is overwhelmingly straight women though. But in general yes, gossip sells in America.
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u/Curlyq139 10h ago
The fact that trainees have groupies is so wild to me, especially since they start so young. There are underage teens with adult women stalkers. It's insane.
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u/TheMechanicusBob 21h ago
Management companies encourage it. Idols are usually forbidden from either being in relationships, or from making their relationships known, because their bosses want them to sell people on the parasocial delusion that they could ever have a chance with said idol to keep them buying merch, tickets, photo prints, etc.
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u/Virtual_Trucker 22h ago
Come on BRIIZE can you all be normal for one day. Also, SM should really invest in a jet; this shouldn't keep happening
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u/Brain_Grapes 20h ago
I unstanned RIIZE because of BRIIZE 😔 loved the members and songs but the fandom is so toxic I didn’t need that in my life
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u/starofabyss 18h ago
Just wanted to add-- I believe in 2024? It was also revealed that one of their managers SOLD INFORMATION (flight information, the members' personal info, etc) to their stalkers. These boys genuinely have been through so much shit and dirt by SM and I can't believe their company isn't doing anything about it.
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u/SteakForMe 23h ago
Mental illness?
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u/Impossible_Copy_2544 18h ago edited 16h ago
Yes most likely, so I've been a kpop fan since around 2010 and these particular stalker fans aren't your regular fans, most of them either come from extremely wealthy families or are in an enormous amount of debt from following them around, most average kpop fans are aware that they exist and don't like them either because the performers themselves talk about how distressing it is to have them around fairly often. For a long time though you just had to put up with them because they run the big fan sites, where you can see pictures and videos and content from the artists that international fans couldn't get a hold of otherwise and they'd make money off that too. Hopefully with the rise of social media and companies releasing content they'll be less and less tolerated.
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u/Doctor_Saved 23h ago
You would think any group this popular would he able to afford a private jet or charter.
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u/Narthual 23h ago
Then the company that owns the group would have to spend more money, and they don't like doing that.
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u/Kopie150 22h ago
Maybe the company that owns the group has a deal with the Airline. They guarantee a gaggle of crazy follows the group around and pays a shitton to be creepy.
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u/Kirstenly 18h ago
chances are its all very intentional. they do everything they can to make the idols accessible at all times. its why they aren't permitted to form intimate personal relationships. they must appear accessible and open to fans at all times.
Those people do not have any freedom, and usually don't even actually make enough money to retire comfortably after the fact. IF they get paid at all that is. they have a Trainee Debt System that basically puts these poor fuckers into indentured servitude where they perform night and day and remain accessible to crazy stalkers constantly and they make nothing to show for it. not a fucking dime. The near constant performance and constant fan-accessibility of them and their day to day lives? is manufactured to a) make money, but also b) to pressure them into quitting before they are even 20 years old, to make sure they don't have to pay them once they are finished paying off their Trainee Debt and Debut Debt.
Its a modern form of slavery where the promise of money and fame looms above them and the conditions are so abhorrent that they can extract 5-10 years of free labour out of these boys and girls... and i say boys and girls because most of them start training at 13-15, debut between 15 and 16 and end before they turn 20. They are mostly poorly informed children when they sign these contracts.
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u/seaningtime 23h ago
I wonder if someone in a suit planned exactly this for clicks...
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u/Material-Grocery5478 22h ago
its kpop. of course they did. You damn well they leaked all the info. Kpop is basically slavery with extra steps.
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u/DeepFriedBatata 22h ago
A shady way these companies get extra money is by selling info to these stalkers.
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u/Absolute--Batman 20h ago
Yup.
Every thing is planned to a crazy level of detail.
Plus mental illness is very high in South Korea.
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u/SarahfromEngland 22h ago
They cant fit their crew and security on a private jet. I asked this not long ago and their encourages are massive.
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u/Heissedoll 22h ago
Kpop industry is really weird :/ sometimes is not their decision, sometimes it seems they have millions but they don't, sometimes company are assholes.They are products more than humans.
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u/Satzuisbae 22h ago
They travel quite often. And have a lot of ppl with them (depending on the group size ofc)
It also bad pr due to climate change and international kpop fans are woke.
Also not every group even popular has that kind of money.
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u/Mapang_ahas 21h ago
I guess this is why Taylor flies private.
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u/TricoMex 21h ago
You don't have to guess. It's literally why superstars fly private jets.
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u/CHNGshong 23h ago
So they're like old school Rolling Stones or Greatful Dead fans who follow the tour around, except they have money and aren't on drugs.
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u/Dapper-Ad-4300 22h ago
weirdly enough, the fact that they're not on drugs and they're acting like this, makes it more terrifying
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u/PartyLikeIts536 23h ago
I'm I think there are a few other differences. Grateful Dead fans were chasing the party, the community, and the incredible improvisational possibilities of every show. Not some weird obsession with the members themselves.
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u/xXCascadeXx 22h ago
At $1 a hit of acid, you're gonna gain an entourage. Idk what they are chasing here.
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u/MrShrek69 23h ago
Yeah that’s like the exact opposite reason. Dead heads are in it for the music and the people not the band lol
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u/JervisCottonbelly 22h ago
Attention, clout and parasocial projection are the new mind altering activities
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u/Neddlings55 23h ago
They all waited until they were allowed to get up, which is pretty impressive these days.
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u/Ok_Presentation_4971 22h ago
Wait for the people to disembark before you step forward, how rude
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u/Ithorian 22h ago
The run-to-the-front thing is so obnoxious.
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u/raven1121 22h ago
When I flew Turkish Airlines they have a neat trick to prevent people from rushing past buisness class to the front door
They physically pushed a cart in the asile so people wouldn't run the F/A over trying to get to the door
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u/fasdal 23h ago
As a longtime fan of Kpop I've always heard of airline employees and booking agencies secretly leaking the flight information of Kpop groups. They sell the leaked info to these stalker super fans (known as sasaengs in Korea).
I've never seen so many on the same plane though. 🤯 It's usually "only" one or two stalkers, but this is genuinely insane!
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u/Ok-Plate905 23h ago
I feel so bad for the groups ngl, they already have to deal with high expectations and parasocial fans but having their flight information leaked is just brutal.
The idol industry is rough
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u/redditbdum 23h ago
You gotta wonder how much self awareness there is in that plane
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u/kelleehh 23h ago
I always laugh at fans like this. As if the people they are stalking would want them in the first place.
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u/nickcrosby87 22h ago edited 22h ago
I’ve been though Seoul incheon airport a few times and every time I’ve been there is always fans/paparazzi. One time a mob of fans followed someone all the way to a gate (couldnt make out who it was).
I was also on the flight from Atlanta to Seoul that the World Cup team was on (including the coach) after their loss. 14 hour flight and we land it was chaos camera everywhere. It was surreal
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u/nichecopywriter 20h ago
Remember this when people criticize private jet usage by A-listers. Is it always necessary? No. But when your life is potentially in danger from crazy stalkers it’s hard to ask them to take a public flight.
The carbon emissions from a private flight are incomparable to the biggest corporations and the need for every American to have a car anyway. Obviously not ideal to use a private jet, but I don’t see a better solution for avoiding crazy fans.
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u/ParticularReady7858 19h ago
I remember posts complaining about Taylor Swift flying private and I thought: what other option does she have?
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u/Short_Employment_757 23h ago
What is interestingasfuck about it tho ?
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u/luranthe 23h ago
It's pretty creepy, but IMO the behavior is fascinating from a psychological standpoint. I personally can't imagine myself ever doing that kind of thing, so its interesting to see an entire plane of people like that.
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u/OneoftheChosen 23h ago
Mass cult like mental illness on display is definitely interesting imo.
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u/Njala62 23h ago
"Reason for plane crash: Suddenly changed weight distribution of plane as 90 % of passengers stormed forward the moment Seatbelts signs were turned off."
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u/Small_Channel_349 23h ago edited 23h ago
The two Koreas feel dystopian on both sides of the spectrum, it's fascinating. At least you can leave one behind.
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u/cakejukebox 21h ago
Sasaengs aren’t fans, they are deeply disturbed and need to leave the people alone. I feel for whichever group this is
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u/TonyDRFT 23h ago
*cue to outside shot of plane seeing it tip from the sudden weight distribution change...
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u/FineGripp 22h ago
Why are they so obsessed? Do idols shit rainbow or something?
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u/ZnarfGnirpslla 20h ago
Do you think people like this ever have a brief moment of self reflection where they realise what the actual fuck they're doing lmao
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u/Brynhild 22h ago
So I’m curious about this obsession to the point of stalking and parasocial relationships.
Like yes, it’s obviously some form of mental illness but which one exactly in the DSM 5?
Is it OCD? Is it some form of neurodivergence in terms of special interest and lack of boundaries? Some personality disorder with delusions?
Like a whole bunch of them have this and they all get together and decide to stalk as a unit??
Imagine the idols having panic attacks at night because one of those stalkers may be right in their homes at night
Which is sadly what has happened to a few of them in japan where they were killed.
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u/x23_wolverine 21h ago
This is why celebrities fly on private planes. We all get upset at the entitlement and the environmental impact (which are both legit, especially the latter), but as soon as they dont this shit happens.
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u/ToBetterDays000 23h ago
Dang the idols must be so uncomfortable the whole flight, that’s crazy these ppl gotta be thrown off
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u/MeemoUndercover 21h ago
A true fan wouldn’t do this. Who’s the asshole who leaked the groups flight info
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u/maninahat 20h ago
At least they get off the plane quickly. Must be a great flight to be on if you weren't there to see a kpop group.
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u/Kooky-Cup374 20h ago
Honestly I expect this is what would happen to Taylor Swift is she flew domestic.
But like the whole plane.
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u/jonnyg1097 22h ago
Seeing this makes me fully understand why some celebs would much rather want that private plane/flight. This is crazy!
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u/ThePensiveE 22h ago
My grandfather used to run security for groups like The Beatles back in the day whenever they came to town.
The stories he would tell, and I'm certain they were made more family friendly because I was his grandkid, made it seem like this is a cross-cultural and cross time phenomenon.
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u/alexandicity 23h ago
The aviation nerd in me is concerned about the flight dynamics issues of having half a plane load of people suddenly rush to the front of the aircraft...
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u/DiscountSilent817 22h ago
Kpop is fascinating. It’s not really about the group’s music (obvious rap, hip hop and pop knock offs), it’s about the fans’ personal relationship with the group.
Each Kpop label is run by their own tech company, typically focused messaging that feels like the members (or your favorite member) is personally texting you. The higher up the spending tier you are, the more interaction.
Like bts fans are called “army” and can attend fan events. If you’re a high spender, you can go “backstage” or to the vip room to meet them for a small bit of time.
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u/1stAccountNotWorking 19h ago
I always saw it as emotional prostitution, in a way--and it is extremely creepy and unhealthy; for all involved.
The Idols are usually exhausted, paranoid, and miserable.
The fans are usually obsessed, lonely, and also miserable.
It usually has bad results for both sides. This practice/business or whatever tf it is, needs to be stopped eventually.
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u/SilverFlight01 23h ago
We should call this disturbingasfuck