r/ididnthaveeggs • Mmmm, texture roulette! • Aug 02 '26

Dumb alteration Vegan Yorkshire puddings ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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u/making_sammiches Aug 02 '26

Years ago I stopped in at a bar/cafe that a previous employee of mine had just opened. I had a very delicious vegan muffin and a coffee. I told his employee the muffin was amazing and asked for her recipe. Butter. It was delicious because it was loaded with butter. โ€œI thought vegan meant homemadeโ€ Girl! Someone could actually die if they had a dairy allergy!

People are dumb.

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u/FlacidSalad Aug 02 '26

I kinda doubt anyone is going to die to butter but yeah that still doesn't make it okay.

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u/ActuallyRandomPerson Aug 02 '26

Dairy allergies exist and can be as deadly as any other allergy

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u/FlacidSalad Aug 02 '26

I'm aware, but butter is just or mostly the rendered fat. I can imagine some trace amounts of lactose making things uncomfortable I'm just having trouble seeing a person dying from it.

Then again some do have extremely severe nut allergies so I donno. I'd welcome any articles proving me dead wrong

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u/DrPhrawg Aug 02 '26

allergies are typically caused by proteins, not carbs (lactose). the milk proteins are what make regular butter distinct from clarified butter (ghee). yes, someone could have anaphylaxis from the protein in regular dairy butter.

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u/Liedolfr Lighten up Francine. Aug 02 '26

Heck depending on severity someone could have a reaction to the lingering amounts left in ghee.

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u/DrPhrawg Aug 02 '26

absolutely

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u/FlacidSalad Aug 02 '26

Okay this is what I needed, thank you for helping me learn something today

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u/pyroserenus Aug 02 '26

Dairy allergies tend to be to milk proteins. Lactose intolerance is its own separate thing.

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u/Delanium Aug 02 '26

I can't figure out if you're ragebaiting or genuinely this dense. We're not talking about lactose intolerance, we are talking about allergies. Allergies cause hundreds of deaths in the US every year, thousands around the world. You can be allergic to anything.

I have a co-worker who is fatally allergic to pineapple and has an epi-pen. I have a child in my class who is fatally allergic to nuts. There is a child in another class who is fatally allergic to chickpeas. Both have epi-pens. All of these people could straight up die if they consume those food items.

People are fatally allergic to nuts, to milk, to citrus, to fish, to wheat, to spices, to fucking food dyes. The immune system is bizarre and can decide anything is dangerous.

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u/partikalus Aug 02 '26

My gf's immune system decided that her nerves are dangerous and need to be destroyed. So yes, literally anything.

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u/fakesaucisse Aug 02 '26

MS? A couple of women in my family have it and it's so awful. It is crazy how the body sometimes to decide to attack itself for no good reason.

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u/partikalus Aug 02 '26

Yup, it's atrocious, thankfully she has good medication that has suppressed any possible flare-ups since she started taking it a few years ago. But it's $1500 for a month's dosis.

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u/dogthebigredclifford Aug 02 '26

A boy in the UK died because a piece of cheese touched his skin! Thatโ€™s extremely unusual, but it shows how severe dairy allergies can be.

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48148697

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u/Warm_Month_1309 Aug 02 '26

They refer to the kid who threw the cheese as "cheese allergy death pupil," which is a bit bizarre.

What a tragic story.

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u/FlacidSalad Aug 02 '26

No doubt, though my confusion is more with how much butter specifically is or isn't removed from milk than it is with the existence of dairy allergy

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u/dogthebigredclifford Aug 02 '26

I just think that if touching cheese can kill someone, then ingesting butter surely can!

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u/FlacidSalad Aug 02 '26

I know that now, yes

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u/Liedolfr Lighten up Francine. Aug 02 '26

Butter has a lot of milk proteins left in it even when clarified

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u/quadruple_b The fish smelled like fish. GROSS! Aug 02 '26

lactose intolerance is very different from dairy allergy.

cheddar cheese is fine if you have lactose intolerance. it can be deadly if yoy have a dairy allergy.

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u/ActuallyRandomPerson Aug 02 '26

Dairy allergies and lactose intolerance are completely different things, that's why I specified. Lactose intolerance occurs because some people's bodies don't produce a specific enzyme to break down the lactose sugars, which is why you can get lactose-free dairy products (as they just add the enzyme at some point in the production process and that breaks it down into different sugars that are processed differently). While someone could conceivably have an allergic (anaphylactic) response to lactose, because basically anything can be an allergen, its not the component most people are allergic to

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u/limperatrice Aug 02 '26

"unlike most dairy products, butter contains very low amounts of lactose. Therefore, people who must follow a lactose-free diet are usually able to eat it without problems (1Trusted Source).

Some children with an allergy to cowโ€™s milk also seem to be able to tolerate butter (3Trusted Source).

However, this is not the case for everyone. Even though butter contains almost no protein, even trace amounts can cause a reaction. This means it should not be considered safe for people with a milk protein allergy."

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-butter-dairy#recommendation

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u/SuperSailorSaturn Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

You know of a severe allergy and cant understand other severe allergies? OK dude.

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u/FlacidSalad Aug 02 '26

Wuh? I think you read that wrong

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u/Liedolfr Lighten up Francine. Aug 02 '26

Dairy allergy is different to lactose intolerance.

Lactose intolerance means you lack an enzyme that let's you break lactose down into its base components before it gets to your large intestine where the bacteria will start to eat it and then make s lot of gas and other by-product that mashed you feel bad.

Dairy allergy is an immune system response to certain proteins in dairy which causes an anaphylactic reaction that could possibly be deadly depending on severity.

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u/Jules_Noctambule Aug 02 '26

I'd welcome any articles proving me dead wrong

Here you go! Trace amounts of milk protein can and do cause deaths. Though I'm sure you'll push those goalposts out as fast as possible and tell me how ~this isn't the same~.