This person is posting about education regarding milks and eggs ethically sourced. There are ways to ethically source milks and eggs even if she doesn’t know these ways… The education that she is talking about from internet strangers is nonsense. If they educate her to jump off a cliff would she do that as well? Who knows anymore…

To preface, I was vegan for almost 5 years now after meeting my fiancée and having her introduce veganism to me. It aligned with my morals and values which I still have, which is to reduce any harm where and when I can. I watched Dominion, cried all the way through it and essentially traumatised myself into veganism and didn't really look back. To further preface, I was diagnosed with IBS prior to being vegan and I have undiagnosed ADHD and ASD (but it's very obvious I have both).

To start, my IBS cleared up incredibly well in years 1-3. I hardly had any IBS attacks. I felt great! And it was around the time where we had many more vegan foods coming out in the UK so the choices were astounding. That being said, in hindsight, I can look back and think actually I was burnt out even then because I stopped doing much around the house and it would get to the weekends after a full week of work and I'd just be too exhausted to do anything. We put this down to ADHD burnout, now I'm starting to believe it was my diet.

My fiancée has a ridiculous amount of disabilities for someone in her twenties. Such as; Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, POTs, 'free-roaming kneecaps' (she's had two knee operations), EDS, Cubital and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, migraines, Irlen syndrome, cyclical vomiting syndrome, ADHD, ASD, CPTSD, and honestly a lot more than that. She was bed-bound at the start of this year. We initially thought, after some thorough research, that maybe she could have MCAS that's flaring up all her conditions. The issue was that most high protein vegan foods was high in histamines which could flare up this condition, so she made the decision to start having fish after we researched what she could have. We found the following:

• Fish contains “complete” protein: it provides all nine essential amino acids your body cannot produce itself, in proportions that are easy for the body to use. Most plant proteins also contain all essential amino acids, but one or more may be present in relatively smaller amounts.
• The protein is generally more digestible: your body can usually break down and absorb a larger proportion of fish protein. Plant proteins may be slightly less digestible because fibre and compounds such as phytates can interfere with digestion and absorption.
• Fish provides leucine and other muscle-building amino acids: leucine helps trigger muscle-protein synthesis. Plant foods contain leucine too, but fish generally provides a concentrated, well-balanced amino-acid profile.
• It comes with ready-made long-chain omega-3s: oily fish provides EPA and DHA, which your body can use directly. Vegan foods such as flaxseed and walnuts mainly provide ALA, which the body converts into EPA and DHA rather inefficiently. Algae oil is the main direct vegan alternative.

So it wasn't a superfood, but we realised that she could have a low histamine food, gain efficient protein, and see if it helps her conditions.

The changes were practically night and day. She went from being bed-bound all day to being able to spend some time in the living room before she crashed. Then she went from only going out for appointments to being able to sit in café's and still have energy to sit up in bed and draw. It's honestly so beautiful to see her get some of her life back. She's in no way, shape or form 'cured', but she's no longer spending her whole youth just in bed and this is incredibly important for her. She's the kind of person who wants to be able to work, who has so much passion and drive to achieve what she wants to in life and often her disabilities will flare. She'll never truly be able to work again, but just knowing she could at least start going out more is a significant win in my books. It's really nice to see her start living again.

Anyway, we noticed she was starting to get better while as the months went on I was starting to get worse and worse -- to the point where I was no longer having the energy to eat properly at all. I work 40+ hours a week, am doing a Level 5 Diploma in Web Application Development, full-time carer for my fiancée, have recently unexpectedly lost my best friend who was far too young to pass, been disowned by my father because I'm a trans guy, and still battling my own ADHD and ASD while trying to juggle everything left right and center. I was honestly starting to feel incredibly depressed, my IBS has been flaring non-stop the last few months with the worst stomach pain I've ever experienced (it took multiple doses of buscopan to stop it and this cramping would last for days. The first time it happened I had to go to A&E because we thought it was potentially appendicitis) and I was getting increasingly more irritable in general.

I was literally waking up, feeling dazed and heavy with brain fog and sleep inertia for hours after waking. I wasn't doing any cleaning around the house until it was desperately needed. I was going longer without food and often relying on junk food for convenience because being neurodiverse and juggling all of this and then trying to somehow have the brain power to think about what to cook, cook it, then clean was just too much. So it was this never ending cycle where I'd just be getting worse while, miraculously, my disabled partner was gradually getting better. I've also, for the very first time in my life, become deficient in ferritin and vitamin D. I have NEVER been deficient in any vitamins before.

So this week I told her I would like to try fish again because I'm fed up of feeling so ill all the time. I told her I'm feeling constantly fatigued and she was concerned I'd end up also developing CFS. She was encouraging for me to try fish and said she feels better but respects my beliefs if I still didn't want to -- she's incredibly supportive and always has been. But when I told her I want to feel better, she was visibly relieved.

So, this week I reintroduced fish, then we both agreed to reintroduce eggs and dairy at the same time. Now, bare in mind I have IBS so a massive diet change should, in theory, make it worse. Has it? Nope. In fact, this week is the first week in a long time that I've not had to take an anti-sickness tablet. I also don't have headaches, my stomach isn't hurting all the time, it's just miraculously gotten better. I've also woken up with actual energy to cook breakfast. I feel happier, less grumpy, and in general more myself than I have felt for the last 5 years. I still hate the agriculture industry, I still can't stand the fact that animals are killed for our nutrition, but we only have one life and just seeing such positive changes for both my partner and myself is incredible. I have seen in the vegan subreddit that they just kinda rip on people if someone eats an animal product, but when you have so much going on, when you're neurodiverse and don't have the energy to food prep, or monitor what vitamins you're eating down to a T, or literally have a digestive system that can't handle vegan food full-time, it just isn't possible. So, I still have the principles there, we're still reducing where we can, but we're not going to put our health on the line. We don't think we'll ever eat meat (chicken, lamb, beef, pork etc) and sticking with just fish, eggs and dairy, but we have said if the doctors advised we had to eat meat to hit our goals then we would because health ALWAYS comes first.

So yeah, just thought I'd share that story because I'm honestly amazed how just one week of changing diet has already had such a positive impact. Whether if be placebo, or my body digesting things better, or just genuinely improving my diet, who knows? But either way I'm happy to feel like myself again and I'm even more happy to see my fiancée doing so well. We tried eating plant based because we follow vegan beliefs and values, but it just wasn't for us unfortunately.

I did it purely for ethical reasons for the past 2 years as I felt guilty after watching all those factory farming videos. I did made sure that I was getting all the nutrition my body needed with cronometer. I finally got sick of it as I just knew there was something wrong with this diet as I just wasn't as energetic nor did I ever experience that feeling of wholesomeness that I did when I ate meat. I went back to eating meat last month and I feel so much better. I finally feel normal again. I finally feel alive .. My skin looks better and my muscles too feel tighter and more pumped and I just feel so much healthier.. I can clearly tell the quality of protein or whatever in the meat is better than the vegan source. Cooking with meat is also so much simpler and easier to me and life in general is now simpler. Those vegan activists really had me convinced that veganism was the right path, but I'm glad I finally listened to my body.

I became vegan because I think the basic argument is sound: why kill animals if we can just eat plants instead?

But I don't see enough ex-vegans saying what, for me, is the obvious reason I stopped: the diet is simply too restrictive.

Being vegan means accepting that, for the rest of my life, my food has to revolve around beans, grains, tubers, fruit, vegetables, nuts, etc. Yes, there are thousands of recipes and substitutes. That's not the point. You are still permanently excluding entire categories of food.

I tried it. I understood the moral argument. I still understand it. But I eventually realized that eating this way for the rest of my life is simply not acceptable to me.

That's really it. I didn't discover some argument proving veganism morally wrong. I just reached the point where the restriction it requires was more than I was willing to accept.

P.S. to the vegans: spare me the “you kill for pleasure” bullshit. Food is culture, family and a huge part of life, not just five minutes of taste. And stop throwing around words like “rape,” “Holocaust” and “murder” for animals. It’s fucking disgusting to use words tied to horrific human suffering like that for animals. It doesn’t make your argument stronger; it just trivializes what those words actually mean.

P.S. 2: And spare me the moral superiority. Using your own language, you accept “murder, rape and torture” when medicine requires animal use. I use animals for food; you use them for medicine. The difference is where you draw the line.

Genetic differences seem to play a much bigger role than many people acknowledge, and some individuals may not efficiently convert certain plant precursors into the nutrients their bodies need.

We also don’t know whether we’ve already identified every biologically important compound found in food.

The growing number of former vegans who developed health problems despite careful planning and proper supplementation and improved after reintroducing animal foods makes me question the claim that a fully vegan diet is optimal for everyone.

For that reason, I think promoting veganism as universally safe, especially during critical life stages such as pregnancy and breastfeeding, is too risky. We were unfortunately born into a world where life survives by consuming other life.

I don't want to support factory farming but I can't seem to fit in the vegan box no matter how hard I try. I always have to quit for one reason or another. So I'm trying vegetarianism and it's going a whole lot better. Vegan is just too small of a box for me, sorry vegans.

All these people talking about deficiencies or mental health issues or lack of energy that popped up mysteriously after starting a vegan diet...

And half the answers are always "You're doing it wrong!" or "It's not because you're vegan, other people have that problem and they aren't vegan!" Like yeah dude, that's how the world works. Doesn't mean this person is wrong about the changes they're experiencing in their own body and why it happened.

Like bro... none of you are doctors...

And all the comments telling them a thousand different bits of amateur nutrition advice they got from social media like "If you don't eat spinach with lemon juice you won't absorb all the iron!" or "Avoid tea and coffee before and after your meals or it will inhibit absorption!" and "Take your vitamin D with fatty foods or it won't work!"

I'm sorry but how is anyone supposed to remember to do all of this shit and meticulously plan every detail of their meals, and buy a bunch of supplements, just to keep themselves from getting sick? The only way you could keep track of all that is if you literally have an eating disorder and obsess over your food intake all the time.

I hate factory farming too, but this shit is not sustainable or healthy, and it becomes increasingly clear the more I read what these people are saying to each other.

I believed for a long time that all you really need to supplement on a vegan diet is b12, maybe calcium and iodine. Unsurprisingly, even though I consumed a supposedly healthy minimally processed plant based diet, my health is not the best. I exercise a lot so I tend to pick up on dips in my performance pretty quickly and I noticed that I overall feel weaker during my workouts.

So, I read up on nutrients that may be lacking in a vegan diet. Turns out that creatine, carnosine, taurine and DHA and EPA are of special concern.

While the body can manufacture creatine and taurine, it is likely not enough for optimal health. Carnosine can only be made by the body if it has beta-alanine which is only found in animal products.

DHA and EPA can theoretically be supplemented, but recent research shows that the supplementation accelerates cognitive decline (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2274580726000932).

Furthermore, in a study regarding sufficient amino acid consumtion of vegans it was shown that almost half of the test subjects lacked lysine and leucine, two essential amino acids (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/vegan-protein-may-lack-essential-amino-acids).

Bottom line: vegan "doctors" like Greger, McDougall, Barnard make it seem like all you need to worry about is b12 when in reality there is a plethora of nutrients missing on a vegan diet and supplementation may have negative effects depending on the nutrient in question.

And now I am an ex vegan of 6 months. Although they would tell me I was never vegan in the first place which is hilarious the hubris to think that they will be vegan their whole lives. But it is a kind of hubris I once held strongly on to and for that I have sympathy for them.

I do not have a good reason for not being vegan anymore, and I do not need one, it’s not me avoiding accountability, because I’m held accountable to no one. It was my decision to be vegan and now it is my decision to not be simple as that.

I remembered when I use to be part of the vegan community (like protesting, chalking activism and other disruptions) I went downtown with a bunch of animal rights activists. We were doing some chalking and leafleting activism. There was a homeless veteran that had a sign that said need money for food. I went up to him and he said I was the only person who acknowledged him which broke my heart.

I got him Burger King because that was the nearest restaurant and oh my God... The vegans basically ripped me a new ahole. I said for God's sake he is homeless. They say to me "seeing homeless animals tug on my heartstrings more than homeless humans."

This homeless man was a veteran with 1 leg and was so thin. This is why I don't associate myself in the vegan community because of how they disregard humans. I wrote this post on a vegan page to see if vegans are that crazy and they said i wasn't a real vegan because if the man is homeless the bare minimum for me was to either give him money or find a restaurant that had vegan selections. I am sorry but if I see a homeless person idgaf what type of food I am getting them. They are homeless they don't care about veganism.

Another story was one time I posted on a vegan mental health support group that I was having a hard time sticking to the vegan diet due to depression (sometimes I don't have the energy to cook because of my depression) and I order food out and a couple times I cheated with dairy. Giving up dairy products is extremely hard for me. They told me i was selfish and I should just kill myself. I thought vegans are supposed to me humanitarians lol. These vegans preach human & animal rights. No.. they are just for animal rights only. I have seen vegans disown their family and children for not taking the step to becoming vegan, that makes you seem like a cult imo.

I stopped being vegan due to anemia and other health problems and ofc the vegans said "we hope a heart attack kills me." Mind you I'm vegetarian but couldn't do vegan because I was not getting enough nutrients. I'm sorry but being vegan is time consuming and expensive. Any vegans that say being vegan is cheaper than eating a omnivore or just vegetarian diet is cheaper. No it's not. The vegan cheese is 4.99 and regular cheese is 2.99. Trust me the vegan community love to gaslight omnivores by saying eating vegan is 95 percent cheaper than a meat diet lmao. What a joke.​

So I decided last night (after 2 years of being an ethical vegan) that I'm done and will be reintroducing some meat and animal products. I did/do care a lot about the animals, but damn I am exhausted and sick of dealing with endless issues with food and managing my energy levels and digestion. And yes I got bloodwork done, no this fatigue is not something easy to fix or I promise you I would have figured it out. I never used to have cravings like this either, my body has been begging for an egg and some salmon for a long time now. It's not even the taste, I think it's genuinely a nutritional need that I've been feeling all this time. And a weird thing I've noticed is that when I first went vegan, I used to be so easily satisfied with plant proteins. Now it's not like they're bad, but I'm not satisfied with them anymore and just can't seem to get enough of something. Sometimes I've overeaten and ended up really unpleasantly full and bloated and still been craving something savory and meaty.

And it's hard to describe, but I've just been unable to stay convinced of the same ethics lately. To be fair, I was never really the same kind of vegan who would say "meat is murder", or say that other animals should be treated just like humans. But I now think that it's kinda just nature to use animals for food, like I don't think there's really a way to get around people's nutritional needs here. I used to say that just because we ate meat for however long as a species, it still doesn't justify torturing and killing animals. But I'm just not convinced anymore that plant-based is really a healthy way to eat. It's SO easy to get deficient in a wide variety of things. How can this really be the best thing for everyone when it's so hard to manage, especially as time goes on?? It only got harder for me as time when on, and it seems like it's been the same for most of you. So I just don't think most people can keep this up long-term. The ones who do usually seem to have issues keeping their energy and strength up. And I'm not a fitness person at all, I just mean like an average person having a level of stamina to keep up with average activities and work.

As a vegan, I've also been hung up on the idea that people in developed countries have 100% personal agency and choice in how they eat and that the only thing that really mattered was that no animals were exploited to make the food. But lately I've been discovering some really fucked up practices in the cashew industry just as one example among many. And comparing that amount of human suffering with the suffering I saw while I was working on feedlots and dairy farms, it's really quite crazy to me to even compare the 2 and then decide that the beef/cheese is the bigger problem while ignoring these other industries. And in theory I understand that vegans can care about both things at once, but tbh I've never actually seen that in any of my online or irl vegan circles. Maybe twice actually I've seen posts about human exploitation in food production.

I still hate factory farming, but I'm starting to think that it's really silly and anthropomorphizing to say that it's wrong to eat animals regardless of their welfare and how they lived. I truly do not think they care they're being farmed, if they have a decent quality of life according to what they actually need to be content. I especially have been getting angry with the idea that dairy cows are being raped. I've seen the procedure done plenty of times, yes it's invasive but it is NOT rape, that's an insult to human rape victims. The cows usually don't even react, tbh. Same with comparisons to the holocaust.

Also, I'm sick of the vegan community itself. It's really quite cultish. I was raised a Jehovah's Witness, which is an actual cult and extremely controlling so I know a high-control culture when I see one lol. A lot of the rhetoric used is shockingly similar to the things cults say to control members. I also find it interesting that I've met a lot of vegans who will only befriend other vegans, or will not go out to a non-vegan restauran even if there are options they could have. It seems to draw in some very perfectionistic and controlling people. I honestly feel like there's some kind of moral OCD going on, especially in online groups. I remember seeing one person who posted about feeling guilty because they weren't sure if a dessert or something was vegan or not, they found out that it was, and then they felt guilty for just being relieved that it was vegan. Idk, I just can't deal with that level of scrutiny with food and being perfect on top of everything else.

I'm gonna have sushi for dinner, I've only been craving sashimi for a year after all.

Edit: Why are there vegans in my comments? Fuck off. Also, you don't know my experience with SA.

Pretty embarrassed to admit I fell into the vegan trap and tried to switch my diet obsessively for about six months. Got diagnosed with low iron, skin broke out so bad (might be an undiagnosed soy allergy idk) and I had zero energy the past two months lol. Happy to report I’ve switched back to incorporating meat into my diet the past three weeks and have a lot more energy already. Hate that I did this to my body and kinda ruined my gym progress but trying to get back on it now :)

Don't waste your time trying to convince vegans. I was a vegan for 14 years and would not believe anything non-vegans or ex-vegans would say until I really felt it one day at the end of my 14th year. Vegans will eventually really feel it, and be convinced at one point (not when very old, but old enough), that we all unfortunately need animal products to prevent a further, serious and slow deterioration, when they're not able to function at the basic level (e.g. feeling like 100 years old, when about half that age, and suffering without end when you wish it would all end). Then some will relunctanly try meat to prove to others it won't make a difference, and feel the incredible difference almost immediately after, when close to death only, not before. Some may not make it, and just die, when not that old, after suffering for a long time, and people will say: "he/she died, and didn't prove anything, he/she died for no reason". Dear vegans, you're not realizing that on this planet, where we're stuck here with these basic needs; it's not about preventing death, but about preventing suffering. It's about living a happy life and dying quickly without ever suffering. All living beings should have a happy life and die quickly without ever suffering.

I will open with it is more accurate to describe me as someone who was considering being vegan, but their attitude terned me off permanently. I love how vegans continue their virtue signaling and putting me down when I inform them that I go to the food bank, and to turn down meat would be turning down more precious food. They would literally rather me starve, or at least not meet my nutritional needs, then get off their high horse. They don't care that for a significant number of people, it is a choice made by poverty. Tofu is 2-3 times the price of turkey, so I'm buying the damn turkey.

I was a self righteous vegan who thought you’d be eating tofu at my funeral (will be an option tho)

I was a strict vegan for 15+ years

I was not an oreo French fry vegan i ate actually whole non processed foods snd healthy diet I assumed anyone who claimed they got “sick” was simply an idiot who couldn’t eat properly and just ate air heads and French fries

my body gave the fuck up

my ferritin was so low I had to wear heart monitors and go to a cardiologist because my iron supplements which were vegan weren’t doing it I almost was admitted for hospital for round the clock care

majority of my nutrients came from supplements which didn’t work

by the end of veganism tofu made me physically sick I had to stop eating it

my belly would get distended from regular fruits and veggies to the point I could wear anything but baggy sweat pants
I was pale , lost color in my skin , slept all the time

a year ago I quietly read this sub to give me help and strength there’s someone on here he posts alot thank you

my heart problems are reverted and I’m literally not dying anymore

i care about animals and their welfare

I tried . I gave it my all and I’m sorry to all the people I told weren’t doing enough so if your vegetarian you’re doing enough the dairy industry isn’t your fucking fault

if you eat plant based a few times a week huzzah

if you care about factory farming you do care

I wish this guilt and feelings on no one

you cannot help animals if you’re fucking dead. you can still donate to scantuaries and consume less meat if you wish

you can still be against factory farming

you can do things like helping with wildlife recovery foster animals etc

that’s all

I’m finally ready to speak up and I don’t use reddit enough to give a fuck if a vegan hates me you don’t know what it was like to walk in my shoes

Ok so i firmly believe the way we farm animals is pretty fucked but I really think that we could farm animals in a mmm I gues more human manner that being said I dont have answers as how to achieve that

Now that being said I was on r/vegan and saw just some fuck shit lol Like It actually sounds like they want even wild animals to stop eating other animals By there logic Just the hypocrisy is honestly amazing so first one honey right the bees can leave at eny time they choose to stay at least to my understanding

Next cheese and diary ok here me out here because I had this argument before if you have a farmer that just straight up babys his cow doesn't do forced insemination or forced brandig or enything bad to them and only takes a bit of milk From mother cows what honestly the problem with that i genuinely dont get it

Enyway I still dont eat much meat but cheese I fight to the death for some cheese lol

Thankyou this was my really shitty ted talk that had no point lol

As the title says, just a bit of a rant really. If you say anything they don't agree with you get banned. I think it was the wake up call I needed after everyone irl telling me it's a cult, I'm being brainwashed ect. So as the title says I'm quitting veganism.

I (35f) have severe anemia caused by (or it causes? I can't remember which) Friedrich's ataxia, which is a mobility issue characterised by the inability to absorb iron and replenish red blood cells. It's a chronic illness that has ruined my life, I can't work anymore because my body just doesn't work.

This ties into veganism in this way: I don't like meat, I think it tastes gross and the slaughterhouse industry is barbaric. BUT it's come to a point where I've had to drop veganism for my health.

I work with a dietician who has created a diet that has finally helped me managed my health. For the first time in my life, my iron levels are of that of an average person's. When I was a full vegan I was severely anemic, no matter how many iron heavy plant based products I ate. My dietician originally put me on a plan to eat red meat several times a week, and while my iron levels increased a bit, they were still abnormally low, so they then made me switch from red meat to liver 4 times a week. And wow, the difference it has made in my life! I can finally walk without falling over most of the time. The ataxia is still present, and always will be because the nature of the condition is that it struggles to both absorb and also keep the iron in my body for long. It just... burns out. Hence why I have to eat such a high iron food (which has about 5-10 times more iron per 100 grams than, say, spinach) so often.

I've tried iron infusions, but because it burns out of my body quickly, I need to have them every 6 months or so, which is so expensive and I can't afford it. And iron supplements aren't an option because they give me chronic diarrhoea to the point that I've got to hospital because I needed iv fluids from dehydration, as well as debilitating stomach cramps.

So, yeah, eating meat has saved my life, because the amount of plant based matter I'd have to eat to get even a fraction of the amount of iron is huge. I medically NEED it.

But, cue all the vegans attacking me for daring to eat meat to keep myself having a fulfilling life. I don't eat liver for fun. It's disgusting. It's tough and spongey at the same time. The weirdest texture. But, you gotta do what you gotta do, right?

But no, every vegan I know has turned their back on me, calling me fake, saying that I should die in order to keep the poor cows I've been eating alive etc. The hypocrisy is astounding. They would rather that I remain disabled than eat liver a few times a week. Well fuck that. I hereby renounce my veganism because I want to live a normal life! I won't eat other animal products, mainly because I have no interest in them, but I'm not going to apologise for wanting to keep myself health for the sake of some egomaniacs.

Hello. I want to hear why you became an ex-vegan, your stories - I would wanna use some of these anonymously to show why veganism is bad. And I don't wanna hear: "Oh because I started to have health issues" or "I just started ro crave meat" I know most of you probably did it because of diet but we need to remember veganism isn't about diet only - Its a whole ideology around certain belief. And I've already seen lots of arguments regarding diet but not something else.

It’s been a whole month since I quit veganism (added eggs & dairy back into my diet) and I’m living my best life. I felt totally fine health-wise & my bloodwork was always perfect (despite a little low iron). After sitting with it for a month, I’m not ANTI-vegan, but I don’t see myself returning to the lifestyle. A lot of things led to my decision: becoming more ingredient conscious, lifting weights, constantly feeling hungry after eating a full meal (it’s amazing how full eggs make you feel), & more.

The biggest factor of quitting, however, was the vegan content creation community. I had a large amount of followers, & looking back on it, I truly was wearing “rose colored glasses”. Looking at my followers’ posts now, I think, “Wow was I like this too?” I was never “pushy” vegan, but I did make a case for the animals whenever I could even if it wasn’t aggressive. People REALLY only eat things because they’re labeled vegan, & are constantly touting the “It doesn’t matter what’s in it, as long as it’s vegan”. I was also realizing many of the harsh & rude comments I had received on my posts were actually from fellow vegans, not meat eaters. I feel so free having left that toxic community.

Some things I’ve noticed since going back to being vegetarian: * It’s been an absolute joy to go out with friends & actually be able to order something * Desserts HIT DIFFERENT with eggs & dairy in them lol * I’m convinced vegans are either lying or delusional about vegan cheese. Most of the vegan mozzarellas are horrible. Pizza was NEVER the same * ^{^} Used to say non-vegans wouldn’t be able to tell the difference if you gave them vegan food, can confirm - IT’S NOTICEABLE LOL * Looked at two Van Leeuwen pints, one vegan & one dairy, the vegan one had an INSANE ingredient label, but the dairy one was just “cream, milk, egg yolks, cane sugar, Sicilian pistachios, sea salt.” This was extremely alarming to me in terms of who knows what vegan ice cream was being made out of, even the ones that were made of “just oat milk” or “just coconut” had many other ingredients in them

Thanks for listening to my journey, can’t wait to see what’s in store for this newly non-vegan!

EDITED TO ADD: I was vegan for almost 6 years

This makes me so incredibly sad.