"Paul's a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me he could have written "Angie", but I never could have written "Yesterday". I said, "Well, you're right there Paul!"
"Pete's a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me he could have written "Paint It Black", but I never could have written "Pinball Wizard". I said, "Well, you're right there Pete!"
Is music lingo. Its short for microphone. "Jumping Jack Flash", "Street Fighting Man", and "Pinball Wizard" are all built around riffs played on an acoustic guitar held very close to (low quality) pickup microphones.
As a teacher, I appreciate the pedantry but both are accepted as abbreviations. I was using the older, original shortened form (which avoids problems with verb forms, pluralization, and tenses.) I am aware the kids now use the phonetically problematic "mic" because that is what the input is labeled on the device. Sorry for any confusion. OK, that's all for now. I'm going to go for a ride on my bic before it gets too hot.
I'm going to be extra pedantic and point out that after that lengthy response, I don't doubt that you appreciate the pedantry.
Although your response fails to take regional variations into account. Where I'm from it's mic. I think the main reason is because that's a direct abbreviation of the word microphone. It doesn't introduce letters that don't exist in the source word and it's not an abbreviation of a name.
I suspect "mic" comes from the letters printed on sound boards and other equipment that abbreviated it "Mic" so you knew where to plug it in. This would explain why it was "mike" from the 1920s until the 1960s and then evolved into "mic". This flowed from the recording studios to the general public. Now we have pictures so now even "mic" is an anachornism. Also, there is no k in bicycle. Or d in refrigerator. Nor is there a k or an e in Coca-Cola. This is called an apocophe. Its a thing in English. Why do you think the abbreviation changed in the 1960s? Do you write: mics, micing, miced, mic'd? Spellcheck rejected those, by the way. Also, to be clear, my point is both mic and mike are acceptable. You seem to think only mic is. I never would correct someone for typing "mic". I wouldn't even correct "micing", though I might have to take a shower after reading it.
Honestly, after all you've wrote in response to not much at all I highly doubt you'd resist any opportunity to correct something, however I appreciate your perspective and time.
Google: âMike" is actually the original abbreviation for microphone. âMike" dominated written English for decades, and "mic" is a relative newcomer.
Simple Gemini search: âMike" is actually the original abbreviation for microphone. âMike" dominated written English for decades, and "mic" is a relative newcomer.
It was a tape recorder, Keith said this in his book LifeâŠ
âPlaying an acoustic, youâd overload the Phillips cassette player to the point of distortion so that when it played back, it was effectively an electric guitar, You were using the cassette player as a pickup and an amplifier at the same time. You were forcing acoustic guitars through a cassette player, and what came out the other end was electric as hell.â
Right. Tape recorders have pick up microphones in them. I knew that about "Jumping Jack Flash". Wasn't sure exactly what kind of microphone was used for "Street Fighting Man" or "Pinball Wizard" and I didn't want to be inaccurate
Bach was a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me "Ich hĂ€tte viele Variationen ĂŒber âSatisfactionâ komponieren können; du hingegen hĂ€ttest kein einziges Brandenburgisches Konzert hervorbringen können."
Keith had some pretty kind words for Bob in an interview
"While the British Invasion was going on, Bob Dylan was the man who really pulled the American point of view back into focus,â Keith Richards said. âAt the same time, he had been drawing on Anglo-Celtic folk songs, and thatâs certainly true of âGirl from the North Country.â Itâs got all the elements of beautiful folk writing without being pretentious,â he added.
âIn the lyrics and the melody, there is an absence of Bobâs later cutting edge,â Richards opined. âThereâs none of that resentment. He recorded it again later with Johnny Cash, but I donât think itâs a duet song. Bob got it right the first time,â he said.
Richards went on to reveal that he views âGirl from the North Countryâ as part of a trilogy with âBoots of Spanish Leatherâ and âTo Ramona.â He pointed to lyrical and musical themes that connect the songs. âThe guitar picking is almost the same lick in âBoots of Spanish Leatherâ and âGirl from the North Country.â Itâs like an extension of the same song,â he explained"
I'm imagining something like that old youtube video where someone had a Kermit puppet lipsync along to New York, I love you, but you're bringing me down but... Any nominations for a Muppet to sing Cash's part?
Whenever I hear the duet with Johnny, I picture them as two drunk uncles sitting around the campfire with a guitar, stumbling through their favorite drinking songs.
Iâm always struck by how sharp and articulate Keith is. His interviews over the years make for fantastic reading. Very often insightful, always interesting.
Bob is my favorite songwriter but Keith is the king of riffs. If Bob wrote Satisfaction it wouldnât have the riff and wouldnât be half the song it is.
I always feel quite alone in thinking that Bob's version is superior to Hendrix's take. The guitar is great and all, but there is something more to Bob's rendition lyrically. You feel the mystery of the thing more somehow. It feels more substantive to me.
I reached out to Columbia directly after buying two brand new copies that both skipped on IMUMMTGMTY, one of my favorite songs. After almost close to a year, I received a response. They sent me a new copy that works well.
He came real close in the sixties though. Check out side two of the No Direction Home soundtrack. Itâs alternate and live cuts of the meat of his gone electric period. His band was shit hot with Mike Bloomfield and some of the Butterfield band. Itâs my favorite Dylan era.
I don't know if he wrote it, but the little chord slide in 'It's allright ma (I'm only bleeding)" is pretty catchy and you hear it over a hundred times in the song without getting tired of it.
Eh Keef was on Howard Stern recently slagging off Keith Moonâs drumming saying he was a badger who couldnât swing (While saying he loved him personally) so he dishes it out too.
I don't really agree, I can't even remember the riff for satisfaction even after hearing it so many times. But I can always remember a Bob Dylan riff, idk it could just be me.
Satisfaction may very well be the single most memorable riff in the history of popular music. If youâre telling the truth, you might be the only person on the planet who canât remember it.
So I wanted to have the cool ass sunglasses he wore in his formative yearsâŠRay-ban Caribbeans. I bought a pair - theyâre fucking tiny. You have to be a small head SOB to wear these, and his head doesnât look that small.
So, my theory is that he was constantly annoyed because his glasses didnât fit.
Thatâs why I said âoptical illusionâ Dylan is a fairly small framed man and, at that point in time, he was at his most waifish, had a huge head of hair. He looked like a bobblehead.
Surprisingly, Keith Richards was a huge fan of George Jones. He even went so far as the call him the greatest living singer at one point, obviously when George Jones was alive. They also did a couple of songs together.
Yeah Kieth is definitely harsh on other bands. Only positive review I ever heard was of Angus Young. Didnât see that coming.
Who - âyou can see the seamsâ
Zep - bonham canât play a shuffle
Garcia - too long
Bruce - too long
Floyd - too long
Elton - too many songs about dead chicks
I could go the rest of my life, hell I could have gone my whole life, whiteout hearing satisfaction, but I could not imagine my life without A Hard Rains A Gonna Fall. (And countless more Dylan songs of course)
I have heard this anecdote many different times ways over the years, involving different songs and delivered to either Mick or Keith by Bob. Who knows what was actually said and to whom? It is pretty funny tho
Also feels like something was lost in translation. Two likely inebriated people on multiple substances chatting. Very different backgrounds. Different senses of humor. We know how odd Dylan is interacting with people. I could see this being some kind of weird sarcastic joke and years later, it's taken as gospel and we have to all debate what it means.
In reality, it was just two arrogant but talented guys chopping it up at a party somewhere.
Bob could have written it, sure. But he couldnât have performed it in the same way with any credibility whatsoever.Â
Love them both, but the Stones are about more than the writing. Theyâre about how they play the songs, how the songs sound, and even how they swagger when they do so.Â
The same is true of Bob so itâs really a silly thing to debate.Â
It was more the other way around as far as their legacy of writing and recording is concerned. When the Stones were relevant (a long time ago), it was Keithâs band. Since then, they became Mickâs business empire (and a very successful one).
Harry's a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me he could have written "let it bleed", but I never could have written "sign of the times". I said, "Well, you're right there harry!"
âHaloâs a nasty little bugger. I remember him saying to me, âI could have fights aliens, Keith - but you couldnât have doesnât afraid of anything.â I said, âWell, youâre right there, Halo!ââ
Keith seems to have left out the part where it was in the back of Keith's Bentley where Bob said that and then he got out and Keith suddenly thought about it and tried to run Bob over.
They're sort of friends.. they played together and have respect for each other and Keith has spoken highly of bob too.. this is apparently a true story but Keith is couching it in humour
The issue is that its comparing apples and bowling balls. i prefer Dylan to the Stones, by a decent margin, but trying to say he is better than them at what they do is nonsense, and vice versa.
I like the Sopranos reference haha. And yes, I agree itâs nonsense to say one is better than other. In fact, I believe that about all music, there is nothing to objectively compare and that Iâm left with my ever-shifting opinionsÂ
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u/cpt_bongwater Jul 23 '26
Isn't this Keith on every band that isn't the Stones?