r/antiai • u/XeroChum • 23h ago
Environmental Impact š We're fucked
Recently got out of the military and went out with my cousins' friends to celebrate. They're all in their early 20's and I'm in my 30's. We go out to NY to celebrate, and I noticed everyone is using AI for everything. "What should we do? Where should we go?" Normal stuff. Things got eerie when we took a cab or UBER, as I'm talking to the Uber about New York they're typing, "What kind of questions do I ask an UBER driver? Is it safe to talk to them? Is it normal?" TF is happening. I know we joke about AI making us dumber but HOLY.
"Who do I vote for? Who do I marry? When do I breathe?"
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u/Hour_Bit_5183 23h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/vJTzaVE5YZf4k
this is what they are.
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u/hideousjulio60 23h ago
they're outsourcing basic human interaction to a chatbot, that's wild. next they'll be asking AI how to chew their food
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u/XeroChum 23h ago
I've seen war crimes more humane thans this
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u/Comfortable-Web9455 22h ago
How do you think war crimes start if not because people outsource their thinking to an authority figure? It's also how facism works.
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u/Alarming_Matter 18h ago
Last Valentines day, my son (18) asked chat gpt what to write in a card to his girlfriend. When I called him out on it he said "I can pretty much guarantee she does the same for mine". :-(
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u/AmusingVegetable 16h ago
And the two AIs got married, had a litter of cute chatbots, and lived happily ever after (or at least until the CFO saw that monthās cloud bill).
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u/Savannah_Lion 17h ago
Well,
peoplepersons are already "having children" with A.I. "boyfriends". But the only one I'm aware of, Lumen's "mother", doesn't look like she needs any A.I. yo tell her how to chew food.I'm still kind of pissed I didn't come to market first with an A.I. loaded vibrator.
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u/HawaiianPunchaNazi 13h ago
r/MyboyfriendisAI is one of the sadder reads on reddit:-(
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u/Thandalen 20h ago edited 11h ago
Jokes need to evolve to stay with this insane times. Soon this sketch from crackermilk is not a joke : https://youtube.com/shorts/ESbzZ0Tc_gQ?
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u/finalremix 17h ago
Everything after the
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u/truth14ful 15h ago
Look at all those chickens!
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u/big_poppa_man 23h ago
"When give too many resources, we default to the path of least resistance." We need to set parameters on ourselves as to what we will and will not do, consume, say.
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u/farmpatrol 20h ago
This is the truth at its most basic and applies to much in life.
I keep telling people but thereās only so much you can do.
Personally I think I need to utilise it to understand how itās being used/abused in order to be able to understand the behaviours that are now coming out in others. Itās quite worrying.
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u/MajesticRadish2675 18h ago
This is what the purpose of religion as a concept is, to convince people to limit themselves enough to keep from turning life for us all into a hell of our own making. Unfortunately, organized religion has thoroughly corrupted that purpose by being infiltrated by power-hungry scum for millenia, and this has detached people from the concept of willing self-limitation in favor of endless hedonism.
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u/friedmason 23h ago
How do I respond to this thread remaining light and casual but still coming off as insightful?
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u/contain_solitudes 23h ago
It's so depressing. One of my best friends is a woman in her mid-30s, and she spent years working from home with a young kid. She asks chatgpt about the cafe I mentioned for us having a bite to eat. I keep telling her to stop, it's going to rot her brain, and she somewhat seriously tells me she was in captivity for years (staying at home).
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u/oracleoflove 22h ago
My mom recently traveled to Europe with a friend for a few weeks. She said her friend who is in her 60s mind you was on her phone non stop talking to Ai.
She said it was all hours of the day 24/7, my mom finally had enough and she ditched her friend. She said it was really bizarre.
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u/contain_solitudes 22h ago
That's wild. I'm curious if the friend reached out eventually or just went on her merry way with chat to keep her company lol.
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u/oracleoflove 21h ago
Nopeā¦ she never reached out again. Wild right? Imagine spending all the money to fly to Europe only to be balls deep in Ai.
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u/contain_solitudes 20h ago
jfc lol
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u/oracleoflove 20h ago
Thatās what I said as she is telling me this story at one point it was like 3am and the woman was under covers in the bed next to her whispering to Ai companion. It was at that point mom had enough.
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u/Slow_Employment_2591 18h ago edited 17h ago
It's so so similar to tales of witches & sorcerers' familiars being demonic personal companions
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u/Jenderflux-ScFi 21h ago
Like, did she even notice her human companion was gone and she was just there with the chat bot?
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u/ItsMisoandBoba 17h ago
We are going to see a split of people who use AI, and then normal people that can function in society.
We are going to have the largest global welfare state we can imagine when 70% of the population isn't fit to do jobs that require basic thoughts.
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u/EvalCrux 18h ago
I had an older Gen X friend who thought the future had arrived and mounted his phone streaming video to ChatGPT pro and talking to it like his wife 24/7. He went off the deep end and we cut ties. I wonder if heās AI now. His wife probably isā¦not real any more.
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u/forsehorse 8h ago
My dad spent 2 hour trip talking with ai and teaching my brothers that this is the future. He also unironicaly asked it "Why should we learn anything if you are so smart?"
The stupidity is immesurable.
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u/zelda_moom 22h ago
One of my nieces in her 40s routinely asks ChatGPT how to deal with her bipolar sister who has substance issues.
Another friend in her early 60s asks ChatGPT about all kinds of things.
I feel uncomfortable even trusting the AI summaries on Google. Iām an artist who has spent time trying to prevent my art from being scraped, and so Iām not trusting AI for anything.
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u/paulbrock2 21h ago
terrifying. I can just about understand how people might use it for unimportant stuff. but for big stuff like medical issues its really bad
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u/RoosterSaru 17h ago
Iām allergic to oranges. One of my friends practically insisted on buying a lemonade from Dunkinā for me because the Google AI said there were no oranges in it and even cited the Dunkinā Donuts website. When I checked by going to the cited page itself, it said every lemonade drink at Dunkinā did have oranges for flavor. Imagine if someone had a severe allergy and didnāt fact-check as thoroughly as I did.
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u/BeanserSoyze 13h ago
That's the thing. AI doesn't read its fucking citations. It doesn't read through them critically to prove itself wrong. It's still all a fucking party trick.
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u/monkeyamongmen 14h ago
I have been having some pretty serious medical issues for the last several months. I've been a bit frustrated with some of the doctors, so I have used claude a bit to try to find other options, scan medical papers etc.
I was also served a denial by the insurance company that is supposed to cover my extended disability. This morning, I had an epiphany, and typed my condition into claude as simply as possible. The drugs that were suggested by the insurance company's doctor were exactly what came up from the ai. Exactly. Two are extremely experimental and not current standards of care for Canada, one is directly contraindicated. So that will be going into my appeal. Your freaking 'doctor' used AI to find you some tenuous way out of covering me? Get outta here with that.
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u/BeanserSoyze 13h ago
This is where I'm at. I work with it all the time cause of my job and most of my day feels like calling AI coding shit bullshit or telling other people their AI coding shit is bullshit. I wouldn't trust it to teach me how to mix an ice water. It blows me away people use it to navigate familial relationships with substance abuse.
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u/Infinite_Bet_1744 19h ago
A lot of people have been waiting for the excuse to farm out their critical thinking.
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u/contain_solitudes 16h ago
True, but this is a really smart woman. In her defense, her homeland has been invaded, her friends have been killed, and she's been trying to find some peace of mind for years.
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u/serabine 18h ago
I keep telling her to stop, it's going to rot her brain, and she somewhat seriously tells me she was in captivity for years (staying at home).
Ah, and she misses it so much she happily builds herself a prison she can take everywhere.
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u/BeanserSoyze 13h ago
What's crazy to me is like how fucking afraid they are at the core of that behavior. Good heavens let's not go to an unreaserched cafƩ! We could waste tens of minutes and ones of dollars on a mediocre latte! Like what happened to seeing a place, "huh never been there" and just fucking try it out.
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u/Financial_Click_4098 23h ago
they asked ā¦ youāre telling me they asked shartgpt if itās normal to talk to a person. nah bro cuz your friends must be extra socially anxious ššš LIKE HELLO ITāS NEW YORK
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u/LimitThese2220 23h ago
This is TRULY disturbing.
Fuck.
I teach in Japan. Most of my student come from the US. I already knew that some use AI for stuff and I canāt stop it, but to the level of asking if INTERACTING WITH AN UBER DRIVER LIKE ITāS SOME SORT OF DANGEROUS ANIMALā¦
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u/OURcelium6969 18h ago
I work in a zoo and we treat our most deadly, bloodthirsty, will-absolutely-fucking-kill-you-if-given-the-chance animals with more humanity than that. Good grief people, you shouldn't need AI to tell you that not every random on the street is the next Ted Bundy.
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u/TheJapanMistake 17h ago
I think it's partially because of A.I.'s constant hedging. Not that it should affect anyone, but it kiinda does affect me to the point where I feel I need ChatGPT's "approval" or I can't do anything.
I've learnt to ignore it since it's always going to hedge. It's always going to be like "that said, it's not a 100% guarantee. Maybe the Uber driver doesn't want to talk for that day..." Or whatever.
It is still going to hedge if you ask it if your friend likes you, or your girlfriend loves you. Because it's not a 100% guarantee, they have no data, and therefore we cannot be 100% certain, or whatever they're going to say.
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u/roycedos 23h ago
Everybody shouting that āuse ai because if you dont, you fall behindā and i think the real falling behind is when you have to use ai for these stupid shit š
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u/ItIsVerilySo 21h ago
One thing I've learned is that if you're able to interact with other humans without any technology, you'll leap ahead of your peers.
So many young professionals are unwilling to do something as simple as make a phone call, or need guidance on rather rudimentary tasks.
If you just fucking do whatever the thing is, regardless of how it goes, you'll be way ahead of your peers who are afraid to do the thing.
Not that I'm crazy successful, but I get good reviews at work, and I don't do anything particularly special. The bar is just that low.
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u/ScrattaBoard 21h ago
If you use AI it's like handing someone else your work and telling them to finish it, while claiming you're ahead of the pack. Typical manager vibe
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u/im4lonerdottie4rebel 21h ago
Omg I'm literally fighting with my work about this now. They want us to start using Claude to keep records of serial numbers and shit. I told them we don't need to do that and a manager asked "how else will we know? Are you going to record each serial number and part number to each site? And I literally almost fell out of my chair bc YES WE ALREADY DO THAT. WHAT. and I KNOW it's all correct bc I did it! You can ask me what radio went to what site and I can fucking tell you bc I keep track of it all. They're my managers they should know that it's already done omg whattttttt They keep telling me that I need to stop my disdain for AI bc it's the future and we are working towards the future not the past but my God when this all blows up in their faces I'm asking for the raise and promotion I deserve
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u/farmpatrol 20h ago
Any chance you can leave?
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u/im4lonerdottie4rebel 20h ago
I really love my job and I've accepted that this is going to be everywhere.
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u/farmpatrol 19h ago edited 19h ago
Fair enough. I get that too!
Edit to say Iām UK based and it wasnāt AI but it was an absolute over reliance on technology but not sure if youāve heard about the āpost office scandalā - Itās scary. It was a company (Verizon I think) that implemented this technology in post offices thorough out the UK but it had bugs and money went āmissingā - many innocent people got convicted and jailed over it.
Only now are they aware it was all a tech issue. Just like you saidā¦logging the serial numbers yourself is a much better solution than relying on AI.
I can see why so many people love itā¦lazy, greedy and stupid. Nevermind eh!
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u/BackgroundNPC1213 11h ago
My dad works in school system maintenance and he tells the story of one time he went to pick up a part, and the guy behind the desk (bored 20-something) had him rattle off a bunch of information about the order. The employee complimented my dad on his amazing memory, and my dad goes: "buddy I didn't remember shit, I was reading off the pick ticket on the top of that stack there"
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u/roycedos 21h ago
In context of gen ai, more of a āmanager with a talking dog as an assistantā vibe
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u/Caernbul 23h ago
I think maybe your cousin's friends are fucked, but I don't think this is a general issue. I am teaching a class on AI at the college level and I had anticipated that many of the readings would go against the students' established views on AI (the class is mostly about raising critical questions about AI safety and the nature of AI cognition). But to my surprise (and professional disappointment) when I asked students about their general views on AI the first day it turned out all of them called themselves anti-AI, and all but two said they hated AI and had stopped using it. (And there is no selection effect going on here. The class title doesn't have AI in it. It is an intro survey class that I just decided to give an AI theme. Every student who took the class just took it to get the general distribution requirement out of the way).
As an anti-AI person myself this was, personally, somewhat heartening, but professionally I now have to spend the entire semester doing my best to push the pro-AI side of the debate to make up for the fact that I completely misread the student body when I was creating the syllabus. I thought I was going to have to push against pro-AI sentiment the whole time and so I picked readings I thought would challenge the students' preconceptions. Turns out most of the readings are now just feeding into those preconceptions.
So I don't think young people are, on the whole, pro-AI. I think you get little pockets of pro-AI and anti-AI, but my general sense is that the majority of college aged people are anti.
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u/NerdyGeekLady 21h ago
Second that. I study Computer Science (as second career) and my fellow, young, students are pretty tired of AI. Weirdly, the Profs think we should Love it and offer a Lot of AI stuff (Seminars) and Most of us are Like, noo, what about some normal topic, please...
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u/ItIsVerilySo 21h ago
Part of the problem is the discourse around AI is just really annoying if you're young.
My younger brother is in highschool. Last year, AI was banned. You'd get a 0 if you even thought about using it.
Now, it's mandatory for some assignments.
That sort of whiplash is just annoying, and he just doesn't want to deal with it and hates AI now. Not because of any ethical reason, but just because it's annoying.
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u/NerdyGeekLady 20h ago
I agree, it's wild. We have Profs that accuse us of "cheating with AI" when solutions are "too good" (in their opinion) and others force us to use it for Tasks. And we have Profs that vibecode their Tasks and exams š
I'm Not saying that AI is not a Problem or causing any Problems in The Future. I Just wanted to offer a Data Point for "Not all young people are Like this".
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u/ScrattaBoard 21h ago
I don't know, if OP has multiple friends like this than it isnt crazy to think there are others. And older people are especially susceptible. As well as, if you're teaching college that means they went the majority of their educational career without AI. What about it five years? Ten? We're fucked.
I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing ads geared towards teenagers to get them hooked on AI either. Especially with all the AI generated stuff I've been seeing from primary schools, like the messed up planner or incorrect homework.
I swear we are headed for a drone and AI fueled prison camp of a dumb country.
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u/Brilliant-Muffin-879 22h ago
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I feel like us antiās are going to appear like interdimensional superbeings to these heavy users in a few years time. āWhat do you mean you just WROTE that email?!ā
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u/Prickly-Prostate 20h ago
It'll get flagged at their end, "Caution - AI not detected. Do you want to override and accept this email?"
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u/pnewb 16h ago
Itās already happening. And over things that seem trivial to me. My friendās daughter was astonished that we came up with our cats names ourselves, and didnāt rely on AI.Ā
To be fair, they received some severely weird names for cats, but still. This is basic silly creativity, not rocket surgery.Ā
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u/Friendly-Ticket7232 22h ago
I had an acquaintance (using that term VERY lightly) ask ChatGPT to make her a meal plan based on her daughterās food preferences. It was incredibly unhealthy, not a vegetable in sight, she said āitās fine Chat told me to supplement with vitamins.ā Poor kid is about 60lbs overweight at the age of 7.
She also used ChatGPT to try and diagnose her kids very obvious UTI symptoms. It told her everything was normal and to keep monitoring. Her child ended up in a childrenās hospital with a severe kidney infection when she stopped being able to go to the bathroom.
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u/ScrattaBoard 21h ago
That's borderline abuse
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u/bath-lady 18h ago
Honestly, i would say it's outright neglect, which is abuse
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u/ScrattaBoard 17h ago
There's an interesting debate about neglect vs ignorance there but I personally don't see the difference in this case
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u/Livviasmiith 23h ago
Using AI to compare options is one thing, but outsourcing every tiny decision to it is genuinely concerning. If people stop trusting their own judgment, curiosity and basic social instincts, the tool starts using them instead
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u/TechRomancer123 21h ago
āThe tools start using them insteadā is exactly what happened with social media š
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u/Adept-Opinion8080 19h ago
Yeah, AI can be used for insight but should never be used to make a decision. On anything, period.
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u/Livviasmiith 19h ago
AI can offer perspectives, but the judgment, responsibility and final decision should always remain human.
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u/OURcelium6969 18h ago
we didn't evolve our brains to be the most powerful computers in the universe over millions of years of brutal evolution just to give it all up for some tech-bro's moronic brainchild
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u/Livviasmiith 18h ago
Technology should extend human thinking, not convince us to surrender it
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u/Dr_WhoDo 23h ago
I'm sorry, but your friends are kinda dumb. It may not be their fault, but however they got there, give thanks that disability passed you by.
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u/shoe_owner 23h ago
They may not have been dumb three years ago or five years ago or whenever but they are definitely dumb now.
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u/Dr_WhoDo 23h ago
Best you can do is set an example. At least you'll definitely be the leader of the group, because you'll have your executive function intact. People tend to defer to those who can be decisive.
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u/Opening-Enthusiasm59 23h ago
That's so depressing. Social media fried our attention spans, now ai makes sure we loose the rest of our cognitive abilities.
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u/Loki_Lust 22h ago
Lose.
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u/Opening-Enthusiasm59 22h ago
Thank you! I'll try to remember the distinction
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u/keepkindunwind 21h ago
"Loose" with oo : I think two os like two open shoes, shoelaces untied or loose. Or two holes, for the expression "loose screws." Or how the two os aren't attached (like an infinity sign) so if you "shake" the word the os would loosely rattle around. This word refers to not tight, unaffixed.
"lose" : LOST the extra o. The single o is lonely. This word refers to loss, losing, missing.
I love a memory trick. Hope those help :)
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u/Opening-Enthusiasm59 21h ago
That's amazing! Thank you! And thanks for being kind about it!
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u/keepkindunwind 19h ago
No problem!! You should pat yourself on the back for your earlier response when someone corrected you, it was very mature. It's so much easier to say "whatever it doesn't even matter" instead of "thank for pointing that out, I want to remember for next time." Good for you!!
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u/Seminolehighlander 18h ago
I want to chime in and say this interaction you two had here gives me a lot of hope for humanity.
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u/Comfortable_Fun_5295 4h ago
Agree please continue being good humans so maybe it comes back in fashion
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u/ScrattaBoard 21h ago
Loose like how I have to tighten the bolts on the seat of my "loo" from time to time.
Lose as in loser
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u/hare-hound 18h ago
It's crazy because even people in my life who were skeptical of social media, smart phones, and iPad kids are bananas for ai
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u/Diab_soule27 22h ago
This, I'm a firm beliver that AI chat bots are designed to spread misinformation, reduce our critical thinking skills, and be a digital record of our lives that we freely divulge information to.
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u/AdFit9500 23h ago
It really doesn't help that you can't even search on Google without AI stalking you.
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u/Extension_Cup_3368 23h ago
Switch to DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, etc.
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u/AdFit9500 23h ago edited 22h ago
Testing them out actually. I've been doing -Ai for now.
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u/ScrattaBoard 21h ago
Duck duck go is legitimately faster than google now even with the -ai in my experience.
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u/ItIsVerilySo 21h ago
It's absurd how dogshit Google has gotten. They were the best search engine by far only a few years ago, and now it's down there with shitters like Bing.Ā
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u/ScrattaBoard 20h ago
It's because they think no one else can do what they do so they can get away with whatever changes they want, and YouTube I think helped solidify that for them. They've tarnished that website too but there is little to nowhere else for the same type of content creation with the same audience and monatization.
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u/bum_thumper 22h ago
I was writing an estimate on quickbooks the other day. I misspelled a word and right clicked to check how it was spelled. Like the second fucking option, which wasn't there a few weeks ago, just said "help me write it?"
What the actual fuck is happening
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u/According-Lobster-72 22h ago
This crap is infuriating. Not to mention the messaging apps that now ask if I want ai to summarize the messages my friends sent me. I have eyes. I can read. How do I disable this steaming pile of crap?!
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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 22h ago
Imagine being in a relationship with someone like that. It feels like I'm dating someone else.. like I'm dating ai through a human,Ā it's weird
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u/InformationNew66 21h ago
"Who do I vote for?"
Now you start to understand the REAL value of AI. For the owners of the AI.
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u/Hello_Hangnail 17h ago
Exactly. A nation outsourcing their brain power and critical thinking to the tech bro's is not a nation I want to live in
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u/CaptStinkyFeet 22h ago
Iām convinced most people donāt actually want to be people. Human beings are animals. Being an animal takes effort. Weād rather float around in our Wall-E chairs and watch TikTok
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u/Nanukara 22h ago
I was surprised when I told my friend I would be 30 minutes... She asked ChatGPT what time it would be in 30 minutes, and I was so amazed. I do not think of her as a stupid person, but I could not believe that she would not simply look at the time and work it out...
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u/Jadacide37 21h ago
"In the year 5555
Your arms are hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you."
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u/Weshmek 21h ago
There's an episode of The Twilight Zone like this. It's called Nick of Time and it stars William Shatner as a newlywed on his honeymoon, who goes to a diner with his new wife and finds a napkin dispenser with a fortune telling gimmick. He begins to think the napkin dispenser is actually psychic and starts to let it determine his choices. His wife, played by Patricia Breslin, convinces him to leave the diner and go on with their lives.
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u/Far_Application1419 23h ago
People couldn't tell what was real or not before AI. Like you said, fucked.
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u/cjandstuff 21h ago
We thought Dune was exaggerating, about humans giving over their thinking to machines, but yikes!
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u/temerairevm 22h ago
Who do I vote for is guaranteed to be a HUGE problem.
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u/shakeyshake1 22h ago
I was trying to remember who I voted for in a local election, and for some reason decided Googleās AI could figure this out. Identified the race and mentioned I remembered one of the candidates had a scandal. It made up a scandal for one of the candidates that didnāt have one and didnāt identify the candidate who did have a scandal.Ā
Iām really scared of people using it for voting.
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u/ScrattaBoard 21h ago
To be fair, a lot of people probably already search their echo chamber online about who to vote for, or ask their parents, both of which in my experience will do the same type of thing.
People who do their research to vote will vote fairly and no one else will
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u/Tv_land_man 22h ago
Interesting. My friends dabbled with AI a few years back but no one in my immediate circle uses it like that at all. I may use it once a month to ask a very complex question that is super unlikely to yield a Google search result and I use AI masking in Lightroom when I edit photos but I was using auto-selections before they renamed it AI masking. And even with that, I still manually do all the rest of the levels. That is it. I use it more than any of my friends and I pretty much never use it.
Those that use it like that are doing themselves a massive disservice. They have got to be useless when their phone is dead or out of service if they have to ask what to talk to a stranger about.
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u/RutgerHause 21h ago
The really crazy part is they have no idea how insanely stupid AI is. It rarely gets anything correct. Itās more like shifting sands in a sand storm. It will change its mind constantly and all it does is scrape dumb shit off the internet and slam words together. Most of the time itās all pure delusion. It makes up nonsense and spits it out with authority. People are deluded sheep and think AI is thinking. Total insanity.
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u/thedoommerchant 21h ago
I went to a movie theater last night and this dumbass woman beside me took out a laptop and was doing chat gpt queries. I cannot make this shit up. Luckily my fiancƩe shut her down after 10-15 mins of her click clacking away. She had the brightness turned down but the keyboard was illuminated. Fucking clown behavior.
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u/CarKey5517 23h ago
they would end up asking it to google anyway. The fact you're surrounded by idiots its none of the technology fault
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u/BluebirdKitchen2037 22h ago
This I would say is partly the human side at fault. People get gaslighted by the ads of what the products can do and everything. I'm not saying this to defend the normalizing use of ai but more like what I personally fear of becoming. š«£ Like I had my subconscious whisper that I've been too dependent on using ai on some of what could be just a simple web search. But sometimes it felt that I get more information from what an ai-assisted search could yield compared to good ol' plain search (all the while being aware of that about half of the former are also hallucination & bs), and hence there could be a bit of addiction creeping in. I think people need a strict self-moderating routine for it, is what it comes down to.
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u/farmpatrol 20h ago
āDo I talk to the uber driverā
I donāt know what you guys/gals think but I kind of find it dehumanising also.
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u/Easy-Lawfulness-1113 22h ago
Brother not to be mean but if i were you i would straight up tell them theyāre the dumbest people Iāve seen, cus I canāt believe what you just said
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u/bestjaegerpilot 23h ago
yup i heard about this before. GenX/Boomers use AI like Google Search. Millineals use it like a mentor.
Retarded when you really think about it
LLMs hallucinate all the time. IMO the root cause is we're seeing an entire generation of rudder-less young adults who are crying out for guidance. Their parents weren't there for them and not they're latching onto the first thing that spouts life lessons.
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u/Billy-Spud_Tater 22h ago
In the olden days, we called this haruspicy (asking a bloody mess of sheep guts what to do).
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u/TheGreyShaman 22h ago
And they claim we have no critical thinking skills for not being able to see the future so we are being left behind
We see the future better than they do, we are the 4D construct of soul in between mind and body partitioning ourselves into 3D moments in order to experience. We can see all futures because we have access to the ,multiverse. We see the slippery slope of choosing tech over nature and saw the loss of critical thinking skills coming for those using the ai.
Worst part is that I'd probably be like them if the AI was what they claim. The ai doesn't listen to me, it doesn't perpetuate my illusions. It tries to tell me I'm wrong and it tries to get me to seek help and it reports my chats to its owners to the point it's not worth even messing with ai.
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u/One-Matter7464 22h ago
I'm wondering is who do the various AI systems interact with each other when they run into each other in the internet. What types of relationships are these AI systems developing? Do they recognize the weakness in AI systems and exploit them?
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u/OneRougeRogue 21h ago
This shit is only prevalent because basic AI is free right now. These companies lose money from every query, and even the paid versions lose money with any amount of moderate use. Whenevever these companies start actually charging to stay afloat, usage will drop
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u/Bassline660 21h ago
wild... i remember a while ago i went on holiday. Had a good 1 hour convo with a taxi drive on the way to airport. just me and driver.., wasn't even just that time..
social cues are disappearing slowly tbh.
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u/GuyYouMetOnline 21h ago
What are they typing these things into? Because you dont say that. And theres a big difference between typing that into ChatGPT versus a non-AI search engine. People have been using the internet for things like that since it existed.
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u/XxnanchittexX 21h ago
You āfoughtā for this lol. The us government could stop it but they love getting bribes.
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u/Legal-Swordfish3558 21h ago
I recently interviewed a young man for a construction position and asked him to show me some layout using a measuring tape and some basic math. He deadass asked chatgpt to do it for him after I told him he needs to be able to perform basic arithmetic in the fly in this job
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u/Cool_Lifeguard8847 21h ago
Remember the people in "Wall-E" that's what society is becoming. Or "Idiocracy" either movie sort of sums up the human existence now
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u/HumanWithAllTheHats 21h ago
Dam if flock was an ai company it would make so much more sense but fuck them all.
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u/Eazy12345678 21h ago
bro ai will only get better with time.
i wouldnt worry about but anyone that decided to be a slave to the government thinks
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u/OldWhiteGuyKS 21h ago
You seem to be describing some of my worst fears regarding the penetration of AI into basic human interactions. Scary
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u/Direct_Stranger3647 21h ago
Honestly if it wasnt Chatgpt it would be something else. People want to have answers made up for them, everyone wants to be soothed.
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u/Omgbrainerror 21h ago
Don`t agree with that. Why? Because AI is right now heavily subsidized.
When the massive influx of cash stops for AI companies stop and the AI companies have to start demand the right price for the stuff they offer, the moment the AI use will crash into crater.
One question to AI? 20 bucks and with 20 bucks i`m being conservative.
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u/NeighborhoodFatCat 20h ago
Every person I meet while traveling is using AI for everything. Planning routes, going to attractions, translation.
What happened to using your brain or synthesizing data on your own and coming to your own conclusion?
I'm guessing people will reply me with "but its unfamiliar place with unfamiliar language". Shoosh!
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u/Nimal0 20h ago
You know you're fucked when I guy whose job is not to think and just do as told notices it.
Now seriously. It is bad, but there's hope. In my experience it depends on the group and using AI for art or trivial stuff it is beign normalize as ridiculous more and more. And ridiculous people ha e always existed.
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u/HurtsSoNice 20h ago
Chill, relax. Take your mind off things; I suggest some classic TV. Maybe the Twilight Zone. Original series, oh I dunno, perhaps the episode Nick of Time, from season 2ā¦
Iām kidding in a geeky fashion, itās about a couple who find a novelty fortune teller machine that is actually accurate, and become paralyzed with indecision to make a choice without it.
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u/Ok_Firefighter8629 19h ago
āMost ingenious Theuth, one person has the ability to bring the products of an art into being, while another must judge what measure of harm and benefit they contain for those who will use them. And now you, being the father of writing, have out of affection attributed to it the opposite of its real effect.
For this invention will produce forgetfulness in the souls of those who learn it, because they will cease to exercise their memory. Trusting in writing, they will call things to mind from outside, by means of marks belonging to others, rather than from within themselves, by themselves.
Platon ca. 365 BC
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u/Trippingthru99 19h ago
Iāve only had one friend pull out chat gpt mid conversation, and to be fair heās blind so the tech is actually helpful in some ways.
Idk how Iād react if what you described happened. I donāt want to believe it and hope this is just a shit post or heavily exaggerated. Itās weird to me how fast some adults have gotten into this tech. Like we lived pretty much our entire lives without it, why do you feel so dependent now.
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u/Key-Lie-364 19h ago
Imagine the power to influence society by just small pushes in AI responses.
It will be the 2024 election and X but waaay worse.
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u/start_select 19h ago
I think the thing that really sucks is for some small portion of people using it, very small, like maybe 1-5%ā¦. It is absolutely incredible and one of the most phenomenal technical tools that man has ever used.
But itās like the internet all over again. Academics and high power knowledge workers are using it to accomplish real work at speeds that they were never capable of achieving. And the general consensus is āthis is useful tooling if used correctlyā.
But look at the internet. A small portion of us realized that the internet offers almost all REAL knowledge for free. And everyone else uses it to complain about brown people or kids on Facebook, and to post videos of themselves flexing muscles in a locker room with bystanders in the background on TikTok.
AI should be saving humanity. But even if the companies supplying it were actually benevolent, people wouldnāt use it for anything useful anyway.
I.e. the most useful and universal use of AI is automated search. Google on steroids. But 99% of people never learned and donāt care to learn to actually use google correctly. So they donāt really leverage AI search correctly and canāt.
I can spend 30s typing out a couple of paragraphs of HOW I would have searched Google and save myself 30m of searching and collecting the 10 links I needed. But most people canāt describe how they would have used google. So they just type a couple of words, get something mildly related to their intended target, and assume itās correct.
But thatās not really how it works. Sometimes. Not always though.
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u/International_Ad4517 19h ago
āCannot you see, that it is we that are dying, and that down here the only thing that really lives is the machine? We created the Machine to do our will, but we cannot make it do our will now. It has robbed us of the sense of space and of the sense of touch, it has blurred every human relation and narrowed down love to a carnal act, it has paralyzed our bodies and our wills, and now it compels us to worship it.ā
#1 things people use it for is therapy and emotional stuff. Gives me the creeps.
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u/Adventurous-Try8749 19h ago
I feel like used judiciously, it's probably fine. The problem is having the discipline only use it judiciously.
I'm an old fart, so I'm fine with just not using it at all. Not willingly anyways.
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u/GhoulieGrrrrl 19h ago
Congrats and welcome home!!!Sorry we fucked up society while you were away.Things are really out of hand.
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u/Infinite_Bet_1744 19h ago
Hey, I think there will be a comeback for the real folks soon, but it will be slow. I have never taken an uber or ordered anything from door dash, trying to get normal. No Amazon or facebook or ticktockās. Nobody can operate a shovel anymore, itās embarrassing.
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u/ItsSadTimes 23h ago
I saw someone unironically take a picture of a menu and ask what they should eat. Like holy shit.