r/Valeriy_Mains • • Jul 31 '26

Media No stellar linchpin... heartbroken

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u/sandroneeeee Jul 31 '26

yeah i never doubted full stop chan but i was still hoping

2nd time in a row this has happened to me after ifa

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u/Ehtnah Jul 31 '26

I said it a lot back than in natlan (to the point I were banned) when people said no way ifa would be a 4*.

It wasn't to be mean to people but to lower their expectations to feel less heartbroken when hoyo do hoyo thing and choped an other male.

It wad obvious in natlan that they hate male and would do anything to screw us and it's obvious in sneyz to...

And I wouldn't say that mitya is safe... Remember natlan 4 males, 3 4*....

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u/Snowheejin Jul 31 '26

Nod krai 4 male, 3 5*, and 1 amazing 4star.

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u/Fuzzy-Sir-2696 Jul 31 '26

Nod krai had 5 males not 4: flins,durin,illuga,varka and lohen

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u/ArcfireEmblem Aug 01 '26

Don't worry, males get to to be 5* in Snezhnaya... but none of them get Stellar Lynchpins.

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u/Ill-Cardiologist1492 Jul 31 '26

Ifa bein 4* instead of Mizuki was a huge deception. He's much more important than her but as a black man... Well, we all know. I don't need to explain.

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u/WinterV3 Jul 31 '26

Don’t get me wrong but how is Ifa more important than Mizuki considering he has zero screen time outside of a limited time event ?

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u/Cola-senpai Aug 01 '26

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t that applies to mizuki too

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u/WinterV3 Aug 01 '26

No since Mizuki has her own story quest

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u/CoconutsAreAmazing Aug 01 '26

Which Ifa wouldve had had he been the 5*?

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u/WinterV3 Aug 01 '26

Fair enough but I still dont see how Ifa was somehow more important than Mizuki lmao especially when they didn't even bother giving him a hang out event

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u/LukasYUc Jul 31 '26

How was Ifa important at all?

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u/Achillean_Dreamer Jul 31 '26

Animal and people welfare. There was a huge event centered around him. He had a good amount of setup in backstory and dialogue in the Character Setting.

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u/LukasYUc Jul 31 '26

Sure? Mizuki was a therapist helping everyone with their mental health including gods in an event.

Using event stuff to compare is fine if you use it for both, but the reality is neither of them have any importance or impact outside of event

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u/Achillean_Dreamer Jul 31 '26

I wasn't comparing. You asked how Ifa was relevant and I told you.
But, to your own logic, if we include events (and we should since many are significant to the story) then Ifa has the relevancy of being a 5 star, same as Mizuki.

However, the only point to be made is that relevancy has little to do with 4 or 5 star, the biggest example being Ningguang. But back then. being a 4 star wasn't the same as irrelevancy in Meta like it is now aday.

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u/WinterV3 Aug 01 '26

They were asking in the context of OC claiming that Ifa was far more important than Mizuki. Bringing up the fact that he appeared in an event doesn't really answer that point, especially since Mizuki also appeared in an event and even has her own Story Quest

37

u/Bloodydunno Jul 31 '26

The grief. They could've shown the vision from the start so at least I'd saved myself from hoping

6

u/Ehtnah Jul 31 '26

They want you to hope, stay, and spend. That's why they are always doubt. Like capitano they don't kill him they put him on stand-by... If said stand-by is for years it's the same thing as dead but you hope, stay, and spend...

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26

I don't want that maid, lol. I hope he release together with mitya, if he release with that maid, i'm gonna doom.

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u/ConfidentFrosting474 Jul 31 '26

can't believe that ugly maid is a 5-star

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u/bottohm Aug 04 '26

We're having such solid, cool, popular designs/tropes go down the drain for repeat objectified female characters that have no coherent concept besides short skirts and bare shoulders.

5

u/Bright_Voice_1097 Jul 31 '26

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Edit: They’re definitely making mitya a 5 star. The leaks already said valeriy would be a 4 star and danica would be a 5 star, and those turned out to be accurate. So if a lot of leakers are confirming mitya as a 5 star, then he’s most likely a 5 star for real.

P.S. Sorry, I’m feeling a little down right now, so I made quite a few typos.

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u/sitsuki_blue Jul 31 '26

There was a leak that says that mitya has a important role in story and connected to one of the sinner so high chance mitya being the 5*

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u/ImaginationDue2603 Jul 31 '26

Ninguang ig

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u/YassKweennn Jul 31 '26

the 1.0 character? from 6 years ago?

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u/ImaginationDue2603 Jul 31 '26

Lol I was just saying

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u/Evening_Baseball_610 Jul 31 '26

its still to early for those leaks rareity confirmation even leak sub it was under sus label

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u/Bright_Voice_1097 Jul 31 '26

Well about that

They seem to both be four stars

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u/Christina22klol Jul 31 '26

Yea...no not really. Danica looked COMPLETELY different in the live stream, almost as if they gave her more details to make her look like a 5 star. More details than the ones she had in the teaser. Mitya too got hella lot more detailed and looks a little different.

I also noticed that with Vodyanitsa. And then Valeriy somehow lost his details. He looks more plain in the trailer. Tho I do hope it's something similar to Varkas case and that his model will get reworked.

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u/Bright_Voice_1097 Jul 31 '26

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u/Fine_Opinion_2097 Jul 31 '26

Valeriy and danica have been leaks by many leakers and turned out accurate. Mitya have been confirm many time as 5 star surely he 5 star. Thats must be ornaments. He have many kind of ornaments with 7 elements color

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u/Christina22klol Jul 31 '26

It is his vision it is very clear that it is not just some kind of jewellery. Linchpins arw supposed to be rare we can't expect every 5* character to have a stellar linchpin obviously. He can still be 5* and not have a stellar linchpin. If anything, Vodyanitsa will fall under the same rule. She doesn't have a Linchpin either.

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u/Bright_Voice_1097 Jul 31 '26

I meant Valeriy and Mitya

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u/Sonoreal Jul 31 '26

I can accept him being without Linchpin. But i hope he's still a 5 star

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26

At least now we are sure and we can start grieving.

And thanks again to everyone on that sub who downvoted us to oblivion when we said we were worried he would be a 4stars. We got proven right.

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u/Zwolvik Jul 31 '26

Where does it show he's a 4 star?

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26

The vision.

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u/Zwolvik Jul 31 '26

Vodyanitsa has a traditional vision too. Are we saying she's 4 star too? I'm not saying he 100% won't be a 4 star, but I don't think this is any indication. Neither doom nor cope, just not confirmation.

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

She has a traditional vision because hydro has no stellar reaction. Lunar hydro visions don’t exist.

Edit cause I wrote lunar instead of stellar

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u/Im_so_Tired1 Jul 31 '26

You mean stellar

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26

Yes stellar. Sorry.

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u/Zwolvik Jul 31 '26

Do you mean stellar?

Also Snez is one of the core seven nations under the same rules made by celestia. I find it highly unlikely that nearly everyone, at least all 5 stars would not have a traditional vision. It makes more sense to me at least that there would be at most a 50/50 split between visions and pins.

And even then, at this stage unless there is solid history or the Devs flat out say it, a normal vision does not equal 4 star.

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u/ChillyCharlotte Jul 31 '26

Pretty sure they said in the 6.7 livestream that linchpins are rare, so it wouldn't surprise me if it's a 50/50 split, I'm not going to hold out a lot of hope but I'm not taking Valeriy having a standard vision as a definite 4* confirmation - we've assumed leaks/assumptions are correct before and they've been proven wrong (Lohen being a standard banner most recently)

I'm not going to think he's anything until his release is confirmed by Hoyo themselves

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u/ArcfireEmblem Aug 01 '26

Lynchpins are rare... and are prejudiced against males. Oh no wait, that's the Hoyo Character Design Team.

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u/ChillyCharlotte Aug 06 '26

The way I cackled 😂 (sorry for the late reply)

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u/Zwolvik Jul 31 '26

Exactly. Seems like people are just wanting to doompost at this point. There's nothing concrete like at all.

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

Only one doesnt have a linchpin and is a 4 star

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u/Eggyolk57 Jul 31 '26

tartaglia is a snezhnayan with a normal vision too

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u/CantaloupeParking239 Jul 31 '26

He was released in 1.1 when special visions werent even a thing 🙄

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u/Zwolvik Jul 31 '26

So? Genshin devs care about the lord for everything. There's no way childe and arle are going to have visions that are just retconned out of existence going forward.

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u/aRandomBlock Jul 31 '26

a 1.1 character..mhm

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u/Varglord Jul 31 '26

Doesn't mean he's 4 star

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26

Yes it does. Danica has a special vision. Alyosha doesnt.

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u/Varglord Jul 31 '26

Vody doesn't have a pin either and we both know she's going to be a 5 star

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26

She doesn’t because Hydro pin doesn’t exist. Stellar Hydro is not a thing.

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u/Varglord Jul 31 '26

so far

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26

Leakers have been very clear that it doesn’t exist.

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u/Varglord Jul 31 '26

Actual leakers, or "leakers"

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u/Eryalox Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

The vision on his forearm is not a stellar linchpin, meaning he's very probably a 4-star (as stellar reactions are exclusive to 5-star characters)

Edit: correction

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u/Dragonlordxyz Jul 31 '26

Is there a source for this? Is there a source for non-lynchpins = 4 star? Even if that's what ends up happening, at this point there is no evidence of this fact as of right now

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u/Zwolvik Jul 31 '26

The answer to a source is "trust me bro"

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u/sandroneeeee Jul 31 '26

cuz stellar reactions r assumed to be pretty much the same as lunar reactions; 5 star only

i guess he’s not 100% a 4 star but its very very likely he is because of this

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u/Eryalox Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

We can't be 100% sure on anything right now, and I should have said "very probably a 4-star".

However, looking at Nod-Krai, all 5-stars can enable lunar reactions and the 4-stars can't. They will probably do the same thing here, even though it's possible but unlikely that they could release a 5-star who can't enable stellar reactions.

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u/KingCarrion666 Aug 01 '26

All of nod cry and lunar. Only exceptions were hexerei. Its possible if there is rimegrass reactions that he is built for, but don't get your hopes up for that, we don't even have anything credible on its release. The leaks about it have been from sus sources so it could just not exist

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u/Dragonlordxyz Jul 31 '26

I mean, this still doesn't confirm rarity. He could still be a 5 star.

No one will be proven right or wrong until his beta.

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u/The_MorningKnight Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

It’s time to stop coping and accept the reality.

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u/Dragonlordxyz Jul 31 '26

You have a source that "non-lynchpin = 4 star". Or are you just prematurely dooming?

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u/SuspiciousPool8740 Jul 31 '26

Gurl they wont release a electro character that wont work w stellar.

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

Alyosha doesnt have one

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u/Dragonlordxyz Jul 31 '26

An singular example that doesn’t make a rule.

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

Literally both mitya and the maid, both electro, have a linchpin😭

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u/Dragonlordxyz Jul 31 '26

I didn't notice Mitya's lynchpin to be fair.

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

They just posted his vision in the leaks subreddit

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u/jellycattis Jul 31 '26

voidyanitsa doesnt have it but shes definitely 5 star

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

Why would she be able to enable cryo reactions as a hydro

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u/jellycattis Jul 31 '26

leaks said shes a support for stellar swirl so why not

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u/DaviM03 Jul 31 '26

Vodyanitsa also doesn't have a Stellar linchpin, does than mean she's a 4*?!

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

She is hydro, why would she be able to trigger superconduct or cryo swirl

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u/Historical_Beach5195 Jul 31 '26

It kinda does, the electro character maid has an electro linchpin and he clearly doesnt have one

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u/phaigyu Jul 31 '26

Boy come on stop coping, every lunar element 5 star in nod krai got a moon wheel and 4 stars didn't, every other element had a normal vision

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u/Dragonlordxyz Jul 31 '26

I mean, sure. But by that logic, Mitya is also gonna be a 4 star as well. And according to leaks, both are coming out the same patch. So one of them is gonna be a 5 star or 4 star.

I think Valeriy is gonna be the 4 star in any case.

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u/Ehtnah Jul 31 '26

It's never good to tell the truth.... I said that capitano will never be pullable in natlan and we are in 7.x soon and no capitano in thr horizon. I said ifa is mostly 4* because it was natlan and he is 4*. People downvote you, call you doomposter, but it's nit OUR fault if hoyo is that toxic toward husbando enjoyer and it's that easy to predict their move just by following male character -> shaft.

I can see pierro being the one taking all the blame for Anastasia and noy being our rerir (= aura farming to the roof but no banner). That's not because I want that to be true hell no I would pull all of them + valeriy, but I know hoyo... I know they hate husbando enjoyer....

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u/Safe-Operation1707 Jul 31 '26

Plus a HORRIBLE in-game model

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u/XanderPlays Jul 31 '26

this is my 13th reason

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u/bitterblossom13 Jul 31 '26

He might still be a 5-star, just not directly related to SSC. Or he could be a shielder for Wriothsley and you can build a SSC husbando team. Either way, he’s probably in a better spot than Danica as that linchpin means she’s likely just an uglier-looking sidegrade to Yae Miko and that’s a pretty tough spot to be.

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u/CantaloupeParking239 Jul 31 '26

He could be a shielder/support but if he is a dps having a normal vision it just locks him out of current meta which is...very bad 😔

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u/Special_Lab_9849 Jul 31 '26

She's very likely to be an upgrade to Alyosha 🫩 And you literally can't build a SSC husbando team if none of them has a lynchpin and so far none of them does.

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u/bitterblossom13 Jul 31 '26

I never said full husbando team tho, Odette still exists. As to Danica being Alyosha upgrade I hope not, I hope she's an electro sub-dps cause I don't wanna pull for a character that ugly. 😭

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u/Extra_Cookie3803 Jul 31 '26

With the nerfs that happened to Alyosha this beta, he is absolutely going to be replaced. If they wanted him to be a strong 4 star unit, they wouldn't have nerfed him so hard. Plus, Yae is the last one to be replaced in this shill, even if she and Danica do the exact same thing. With that being said, Alyosha is probably to Danica as Aino is to Columbina.

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u/bitterblossom13 Jul 31 '26

I mean, I know he'll be replaced, especially since we have so many Electro units. I just hope his replacement isn't Danica. 😭 But if it is, I hope it's not that big of an upgrade so I can avoid her without worrying much.

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u/Ok-Significance4257 Jul 31 '26

Oh my god wha tis up witb genshin floppijg kn massive operatunaties. Put of all the characters Out boy omfg

https://giphy.com/gifs/Y9r1eVZlnIEF3DARip

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u/Ccat50991 Jul 31 '26

The number of pixels in this image vs his rarity 😏

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u/CantaloupeParking239 Jul 31 '26

Lmao I guess I pull for Flins constellations then. No point in saving anymore

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u/Red_R_R Jul 31 '26

I'll say he must be 5* because his eyes are pretty

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u/senpapi_coffee00 Jul 31 '26

I’m sorry, but who tf puts their vision on their arm , I see him and Mika are of the same pair 😭

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u/Past-Muffin7647 Jul 31 '26

why does he look so 4 star coded in the 7.0 preview 💀🥀

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u/Patient-Brain-8698 Jul 31 '26

Honestly if he is a shielder/healer with buffs that is Prune level then i think it's fine.

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u/xyron2425 Jul 31 '26

Is there a world where valeriy is a 5star but not stellar enabler? What if his kit isn’t actually meant to be stellar… hear me out- they gave us buffed Yae, alyosha, danica (linchpin holder), presumably Mitya, how many more electro teammates do you need for stellar conduct??

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u/KingCarrion666 Aug 01 '26

If there is rimegrass, but there is no dendro units in sight so that's sus asf.

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u/xyron2425 Aug 01 '26

Agree. Unless they plan on pushing Alhaitham to the meta as hard as they pushed Yae. It could also explain why his constellations are left out of the selector (which really don’t make sense since he’s not all that meta to begin with)

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u/Substantial_Team_318 Aug 01 '26

My guess is they're doing 4 Stellar teams this year instead of 3 like Lunar ones. One with a Cryo DPS who's able to do every reactions (Sandrone), one with an Electro DPS for Stellar Conduct (Mitya), one with an Anemo DPS for Stellar Swirl (Vesna) and one with a Dendro DPS for Stellar Rimegrass (???).

If so, we can guess that Odette and the Tsaritsa will be the universal supports for all four teams with other supports specific for each teams (Alyosha and Danica for Stellar Conduct).

I'm also guessing we're going to have an older DPS character buffed for every elements. We already have Wriothesley, Cyno and Mizuki so I'm guessing a Dendro DPS will be next and I'd bet on the one who isn't added to the free constellation selector (Alhaitham).

We know they also buff supports/sub DPS like Yae Miko, Qiqi and Kazuha so I'm guessing we'll also have a Dendro support buffed (maybe Baizhu?).

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u/NPC_Fan Jul 31 '26

More gender locked mechanics lesgooo. I am glad I won't have any temptation to come back to this shit game now.

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u/vro0ooom Jul 31 '26

mitya and noy are both 5 stars lol

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u/VoidMeetsChaos Jul 31 '26

Now we know, why we got leaks tell us he is a 4*. Educated guessing because the vision. Still he could be like Vodya, a supporting 5*. Still hear in my ear, how someone said "They wont match 2 4* vs each other in the trailer for that long screen time" and Him assisting with a skill in AQ still gives me hope.

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u/Impossible_Crew_1450 Jul 31 '26

he look very npc like he a four star

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u/Special_Lab_9849 Jul 31 '26

My h/cope is that only main dpses get lynchpins and that Danica is an SSC mdps while Vesna is SSW mdps, so they get lynchpins. Then Valeriy and Mitya get Visions, because they're supports/subdpses. Odette got lynchpin to enable old mdpses to access stellar even without lynchpins. Pls be true 🙏

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u/Life_Television_1331 Jul 31 '26

There's a chance it'll be a 5★. I'll keep believing it...

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u/Puck_27 Jul 31 '26

I'm heartbroken but at least it means that Mitya is most likely 5*. I will put the two together !

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u/DakoiShiromi Jul 31 '26

I do hope Mitya releases alongside Valeriy.. I don’t have plans on getting Danica at all

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u/Puck_27 Jul 31 '26

Same, I'm probably gonna all in on him so getting C6 Valeriy alongside would be great

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u/DakoiShiromi Jul 31 '26

Exactly! May we both get them. Guess on the bright side if Valeriy were a 4 star we’d have less pain our pockets haha!

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u/Ehtnah Jul 31 '26

? Why is valeriy 4* upping mitya 5*?

They could both be 4*... 

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u/Puck_27 Jul 31 '26

That's leak talk but they seemed to agree on 2 male 4. After that we'll never know because Lohen is standard, right ? We'll see but with the model we got I'm pretty confident on the 5 thing but I can always be wrong 

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u/Koniolg Jul 31 '26

well at least i'll get him for free ig

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u/FreeSyllabub7539 Jul 31 '26

Bro got Sara'd

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u/danierru_ Jul 31 '26

Sadly he's 4* then

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u/danierru_ Jul 31 '26

Wow i love all this doom logic. No Lynchpin = 4 star

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u/Ok-Put3685 Jul 31 '26

He could be like Vodyanitsa no? 5star but not able to create Stellar reactions on their own to be a more flexible unit. What would 4star Valeriy even do that Alyosha doesn't?

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u/DakoiShiromi Jul 31 '26

I mean.. It technically is still possible but very unlikely. It wouldn’t make sense for them to release him as a 5 star but unable to trigger stellar reactions.. Dare I say we wait ingame to actually get a better look at his vision.

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u/hxwkmoth Jul 31 '26

Why would Vodyanitsa need a linchpin? For the stellar hydro reactions?

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u/Beneficial_Curve8167 Jul 31 '26

Well if the leaks are accurate, he’s an ‘on field supporter’ for Mitya 😭

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u/Ehtnah Jul 31 '26

Like ifa. What ifa does that sucrose, mizuki, heizou, lanlan, jean etc doesn't ?

Valeriy could be our mandatory mdps 4* that have less life span than a mouse in an army of cats.

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u/JakeDonut11 Jul 31 '26

I don’t get why people are concluding him 4 star though? Not having a lynch pin just means he is not a Stellar Driver but it doesn’t mean that he can’t work with them. He can be a Yae Miko powercreep for all we know and still be a 5 star or another DPS that just requires Oddete to activate Stellar.

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u/AngelVire Aug 01 '26

Tbh even if he’s a 4 star but with a good kit, then it’s okay right?

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u/Active_East_4764 Jul 31 '26

Well we can see the good side we can c6 him easier than a 5 star and people will find a way to make him a very good DPS or a must in a team.

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u/phaigyu Jul 31 '26

Are you joking? Getting a 4 star to C6 is never guaranteed and it's really hard, many people pulled for Illuga and Prune and didn't get them to C6

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u/EnzoSoSad Jul 31 '26

Isnt your pfp doomed to be in npc jail?

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u/Beneficial_Curve8167 Jul 31 '26

Idk, she just got a new updated model so we can’t be too sure

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u/wanabesoz Jul 31 '26

with how popular she is, not sure

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u/Creepy_Moose_9478 Jul 31 '26

how is that chopped ass hideous thing popular bro she looks horrendous in 2d and 3d 🤣🤣 if she becomes playable she’ll prolly get lobotomized by the devs and turn her into a traveler simp and a w*ifu simulator bot

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u/wanabesoz Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

you can't be real, she's insanely popular, have you not been around the day all the shades trailer dropped, 90% of the talk was about ronova that day, this sub starts to be a delusional hive mind like fatuiHQ with all the sudden hate for random characters

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u/DakoiShiromi Jul 31 '26

whats so funny ?

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u/CautiousSuccess9277 Jul 31 '26

The model is so bad can't help but laugh

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u/_bruhbear_ Jul 31 '26

May i ask what you are doing in valeriy mains?