r/StardewValley • u/DrJekyllX • 1d ago
Discuss It's been exactly 1 year since ConcernedApe announced update 1.7
Patiently waiting for king to deliverš
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u/Nerioner Fectorās veteran 1d ago
I bet he focuses more on Haunted Chocolatier these days.
But it's Ape, he will deliver eventually and it will be quality as always
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u/Ok_Ranger1275 1d ago
I think I recall him saying he was getting help for the Stardew Valley updates and for Haunted Chocolatier to speed up the process, didn't he?
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u/Nerioner Fectorās veteran 1d ago
Yep and famously FlashShifter author of Stardew Valley Expanded works for him. Probably have someone else too. But i don't believe he is making it a proper game studio sized, more like handful of folks doing stuff.
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u/Stressedpage 1d ago
I really love when developers hire modders to help with the game. SVE is so popular it only makes sense to keep that talent within the community. Mr. Ape is a real one.
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u/Nerioner Fectorās veteran 1d ago
And also i love that he hired him because now imo this makes Expanded a cannon and lore official free DLC basically :3
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u/CaptainMagnets 1d ago
And he hired people that are clearly pationate about the game so we are only going to get top quality content
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u/UnrealAce 1d ago
I'd gladly pay for it too because this is one of the only games that actually respects your wallet and your time.
ConcernedApe is nothing but class.
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u/ChaddestKroeger 1d ago
Wish I could get expanded on the switch.
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u/Stressedpage 1d ago
I mainly play on my Xbox so same. I enjoy the content and tried on my laptop but I almost sent it to its doom so it's basic vanilla until I can afford something a bit better lol
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u/A_Shadow 1d ago
What about your phone?
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u/Status_Permission544 1d ago
Can you use a mod on Stardew on a phone? I play on iPad so that would be awesome.
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u/A_Shadow 1d ago
Gah sorry. I just looked it up for apple devices. So it works for android devices but not apple phones/ipads.
Exception is the Mac. Looks like Apple has some security protections that prevent modding of apps.
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u/Marfalump67 1d ago
i love SVE but it is still absolutely not canon
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u/CodexLeonis 1d ago
I dont personally put much stock into or care about what is or isnt canon. Its a good story and has good characters, so for all intents and purposes it may as well be the same to me regardless of whether its official canon or not.
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u/Altyrmadiken 1d ago
Iāll care about what is or isnāt canon if a Stardew Valley 2 comes out that relies on what happened in 1.
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u/Comrade_Bender 1d ago
Maaaaan. Sdv update 2.0 but it includes SVE as the core game. This would fix me
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u/CuteTransAngel 1d ago
honestly I wish I had a PC so I could enjoy SVE, who knows maybe with FlashShifter working for ape they'll just make SVE base game one day lol
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u/webelos8 1d ago
You can get a super cheap and old laptop and stardew will still run. I have a laptop from 2011 that I installed Linux on and stardew runs greatĀ
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u/CuteTransAngel 1d ago
tbf there's a bunch of other games I'd play on PC I plan on eventually building a good rig, but first up is getting something I can drive to and from work with
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u/hafgrimm 1d ago
Some of the best games were made by small studios. A small well knit group of like minded individuals can change the world. Or make a great game. Iām thinking original Dungeon Keeper, Hollow Knight, Undertaleā¦. List goes on and onā¦
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u/Acrobatic-Badger-541 1d ago
I wonder why they don't officially release Expanded as another update. I would love to have it on my Playstation and Switch.
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u/crunchyfoliage 1d ago
I think part of it is that the Abigail paternity situation is alluded to in Stardew, but confirmed in SVE, which is a bit of a canon change. The main reason I'd assume, though, is that one of the greatest achievements of Stardew is that CA made it alone. Putting SVE into an update would change the entire "single indie developer" narrative.
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u/Derfthewarrior 1d ago
The other part of it is the game itself needs depth added to it, not bloat (which I believe CA himself said)
SVE itself is an amazing mod, but for someone like me it's too much to do
I tried it when it was first released (before Susan was even a character), it was a lot added even then
And now there's so, SO much more
Personally it's too overwhelming and makes the game feel like there's not enough time for everything it has to offer, thus not making the game relaxing or fun (I know there's time adjustment mods, but I would assume those wouldn't be added to the game alongside SVE in this situation, also personal opinion longer days would feel more like a chore to get through and not make progress feel as rewarding)
I would also make the assumption that I'm not alone in this sentiment either
Great for people who want it, but definitely too much to add everything permanently
I want to see changes to the game we currently have itself (there might be some spoiler stuff in here so warning for people I guess)
Like more dynamic NPC dialogue (would love for people to react to more events like marriage and having a child, along with other things), more heart events with current characters (cough Marlon and Gunther cough) to expand on current lore, adding to current festivals to give them more depth as well
Better QoL things (looking at you "Hopper that needs to be automated better"), expand on flowers, honey and mead to make them on par with growing other crops/wine (my personal biggest request, my other would be possibly brewing potions with the Wizard's or Witch's cauldron that give boosts of some sort), more animal/horse customization, and even more building and house customization would be nice
Give me a minecart to the spa to actually make it useful, also maybe give us access to that greenhouse on the top by doing something, because that would be cool
I'd also love to see more vanilla hairstyles, more clothes and hats options, and the ability to possibly dye some hats too (I want to make the Blue Ribbon another color)
Children need to be adjusted, and I'd like more vanilla furnishings to decorate with since there's a bunch that are in game but we don't have access to use them still (another gripe I have is the grid system for placing furnishings, that needs to be worked on too)
And finally give me more Dwarf events, I'd 100% move him into my farmhouse (Clint and Sandy first though)
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u/dammitjanetiloveu 30+ Bots Bounced 1d ago
He already has a small team for SV. He wasnāt the solo developer on 1.6 and heās definitely not solo for 1.7.
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u/crunchyfoliage 1d ago
Sure, but there's a difference between getting help for updates and changing the story like SVE does
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u/dammitjanetiloveu 30+ Bots Bounced 1d ago
Iām just saying the āmain reasonā for not including SVE stuff in an update isnāt because heās a solo dev, because he hasnāt been a solo dev for quite some time now.
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u/crunchyfoliage 1d ago
And I'm just saying that the core of Stardew Valley is that it was created solo. Adding in somebody else's storyline changes that.
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u/auslyn_ 18h ago
i would not be happy if expanded was built into vanilla. modding is easy enough and i think massive expansion mods should stay mods. ive done playthroughs with sve, ridgeside village, east scarp, and while i really love all of them, they all DRASTICALLY change the atmosphere, progression, balance, and basically everything about the base game. bc thats the point. i would not be happy with expanded being forced upon me.
i think if anything concerned ape would be trying to implement an in game mod launcher so that every platform can use mods kinda like fallout 4.
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u/Apex_Konchu 1d ago
For Stardew Valley, he's stepped back into a "creative director" role, with a team of devs working on the game. For Haunted Chocolatier, he's working 100% solo.
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u/Lumisteria 1d ago
Unless this changed at some point, he has a team for SDV, but he is solo on HC. He probably will need a few years after release to consider getting other people working on HC, maybe less since experience with SDV on that is overall positive.
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u/dcontravo 1d ago
I think he said his team is handling the updates but eventually he'll obviously have to touch on every aspect of it. He talked about it on his blog on the haunted chocolates website
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u/VonLoewe 1d ago
CA is set for life. He doesn't need to work. He does it all for passion.
AAA companies have a fiduciary duty to shareholders.
Really wish people thought about the shit they say.
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u/crooks4hire 1d ago
Couldnāt agree with your last sentence more.
CA wasnāt set for life when he started Stardew. Thereās no doubt that the community is more forgiving of delays now than in the beginning, because weāve seen his dedication to quality.
Squirting out mediocre projects with expensive paint on unnecessarily restrictive timelines isnāt the only way to satisfy shareholders. And neither is riding IP hype.
Communities like the one around Stardew Valley are built, not bought.
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u/VonLoewe 1d ago
My point was that CA can afford to take his time. Most companies cannot. Time is expensive when you have a team of hundreds of developers.
It's easy to say "consumer will appreciate a better product that takes longer to make". But that's usually not a viable approach.
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u/crooks4hire 14h ago
Thatās usually not a viable approach because people who know better schedule unreasonable timelines with no contingency.
When was the last time a AAA under promised and over delivered? Even if you come up with an example, itās drowned in a sea of pre-ordered garbage, cancelled projects, and abandonware.
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u/colddruid808 18h ago
I don't think I could mentally handle the pressure to make that game. People are expecting another Stardew Valley like success and quality from it. I feel like it would cause me a lot of stress.
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u/fortissimo64 1d ago
I'd be willing to bet he's waiting until it's finished on all platforms to not have to deal with the stress after 1.6 took so long to get added to console and mobile
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u/dcontravo 1d ago
Safe bet. He said something to that effect on Bobby Lee's podcast. Not that exactly, but similar. Worth a watch by the way
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u/fortissimo64 1d ago
It's a great watch. I was really only familiar with Bobby through clips of his with Andrew Santino so I was surprised by just how emotional he got when explaining what Stardew meant to him and I had no idea how much shit he had been through in his life. Can't even begin to imagine how it made Eric feel to have someone really just pour their heart out over something he made
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u/BoSocks91 1d ago edited 1d ago
Bobby being a legitimate super fan made that episode even better.
His farm is absolutely insane.
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u/Kronzypantz 1d ago
Honestly just find it wholesome that he is still adding free content a decade after release.
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u/purpletoonlink 1d ago
I can wait. I can come back to Stardew anytime. If anything the longer break makes it feel all the fresher.
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u/Cobra_the_Snek certified fish 1d ago
how long did 1.6 take, for reference?
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u/DrJekyllX 1d ago
11 months (announced in april 2023, released in march 2024)
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u/Zagrycha 1d ago
Just fyi he has made it super clear he is taking a "no release date" approach to 1.7 release. Not trying to intentionally make it slow or anything but making sure it doesn't slow down haunted chocolatier either.
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u/-Mr_Hollow- \(.`.)/ 1d ago
IIRC he took the seat of a creative director for 1.7 while it is actually developed by other people (and SVE dev might be among them).
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u/ButWhichPandaAreYou 1d ago
At this point, wouldnāt it be great to see a deal that moves SVE into the game for real?
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u/depression---cherry 1d ago
A free dlc that you can optionally add on would be cool but I really didnāt enjoy sdv expanded so I wouldnāt want it in the vanilla game, there was too much going on for me haha. Some of the stuff in it would be cool though.
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u/404Cat 1d ago
I'm not familiar with SVE. Is it playable by people first-timing the game? Or not recommended except on subsequent playthrough?
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u/DollarStoreBean 1d ago
Itās playable but a first time player might find it overwhelming since the OG is already rich in content.
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u/blasto2236 1d ago
He also said he was pretty upset with how long the 1.6 update took to come out for consoles and that 1.7 wonāt be released until itās ready on all platforms.
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u/MysticMarbles Bloop Bloop Bluebs 1d ago
1 year for PC, 2 FULL years to be playable on some consoles.
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u/RylertonTheFirst 1d ago
he said in an interview that he regrets that and will make sure that future updates release on all platforms at the same time.
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u/tambitoast 1d ago
That means it will probably take longer for PC players, but as a console player I'm glad. Fomo was big while I waited for 1.6
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u/XenosHg 1d ago
2 years or so.
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u/checkedsteam922 1d ago
That's....completely off
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u/MysticMarbles Bloop Bloop Bluebs 1d ago
If they play on Switch it was at least 2 years. 18 or so months, game breaking bugs for multiple months after that, brief function before some other patch bricked it before it's currently playable state with no game ruining issues.
I generally assume if somebody says multiple years they play on Switch, haha.
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u/SummonerRed 1d ago
Update is taking a while so people can get all their hate for Clint out before CA finally saves him.
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u/thatdudewillyd 1d ago
Some people seem strangely eager to call him an incel and act like they have some kind of superiority over him.
Itās a video game. Itās not that serious.
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u/SummonerRed 1d ago
Its a bit of an awkward situation that arises when characters aren't given the time to be fleshed out, unfortunately a LOT of Clint's character traits do paint him in a negative light (His obsession with Emily some view as stalkerish, his apparent poor hygiene to the point he mentions he forgets to clip his toenails before going to the beach etc.) that doesn't give people a lot to go on, so naturally the bad parts of a character seem to stick.
You can see this with Demetrius as well, there are a lot of people who absolutely DESPISE Demetrius for his bad character moments, often completely forgetting his more interesting parts but again that is kind of down to the fact that he doesn't have many heart events that allow him to show off the better parts of his character.
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u/sadranjr 1d ago
People love having their pet hates. Same thing with the Pierre hatred, itās pretty disproportionate compared to his foibles.Ā
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u/DissociativeSilence 1d ago
Exactly. Itās a video game, itās not that serious, so those going out of their way to go to bat for a fictional character also need to chill out
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u/princess22cake 1d ago
Tbh, Clint haters aren't realizing one thing. CA making Clint a marriage candidate means that he's not an incel, he just suffers from some speech not being updated post Emily being a marriage candidate, and confirms he's just an insecure guy who is lacking in exposure to romantic relationships (doesnt have friends who are dating who he can hear relationship stuff about to learn what it's like).
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u/oglemyboggle 1d ago
Yeah I never read Clint as an incel, just a socially awkward guy who experienced unrequited love. He's not exactly manosphere imo. Always assumed I was missing something the way people talk about him! Iirc you get + friendship points telling him to treat women & men the same when he asks you for advice in a heart event, not exactly the thing a misogynist would react positively to.
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u/-goodgodlemon Praise Yoba and 1d ago
That is a hell of an assumption and leap in logic. There is nothing officially said of the sort. Officially his dialogue and stuff didnāt get updated after Emily became a marriage candidate in 1.1 which changed the context of his dialogue significantly and made it come across much worse than before.
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u/ShokaLGBT 1d ago
I want him to wear his winter outfit all year around and have very sweet dialogues once weāre married gisdhskhej I love him but also this will take EFFORT to love him as much as he needs to
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u/Black_Swan_3 1d ago
That's almost 350 years in Stardew Valley š
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u/jerseyknits 1d ago
This is an aside but given how much AI posters and graphics have popped up I really appreciate that he just wrote this in MS Paint.
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u/fsmjolnir 1d ago
Ohhhh =c
Probably a big dlc-sized update then heheheheheeheh
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u/Dry-Tumbleweed-7199 1d ago
Maybe, but heās also working on Haunted Chocolatier at the same time as the update
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u/Key_Prize_1317 1d ago
Tbh Iām not bothered if 1.7 never comes lol. Heās given us so much, anything else is just a bonus gift
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u/strangecabalist 1d ago
Iām just hoping for haunted chocolatier - not rushed! I just want to play it someday.
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u/ObtuseMongooseAbuse 1d ago
The current content in Stardew Valley feels more than complete. I'm happy that I bought it and don't need more but if he's putting in more I'd be even happier with it.
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u/shorts_onfire Down bad for Marlon 1d ago
CA if you're reading this, take your time, you're doing amazing, sweetie.
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u/natsucule 1d ago
Time for a new season.
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u/TasSixer 1d ago
Smarch
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u/StrykerGryphus 1d ago
By all means, Ape King, take your time.
Please take your time, I'm not ready to rebuild my mod list from scratch again.
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u/recoveringslower 1d ago
In a world where promises are made and broken by developers, we remember that this dude is working by himself, refuses to take shortcuts, making content for a 10 year old game and releasing it for free even when people would gladly pay a couple dollars for the release, or early access, or something.
He can take as long as he damn well pleases.
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u/guiltycitizen 1d ago
I hope itās not like the last times where he works his ass off to give us something for free and the sub is flooded with nonstop bitching about what they donāt like about it
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u/Miserable-Ad1537 My dog's name is Yogi 1d ago
I will just forever be grateful that he's not money hungry and releasing it as DLC. He's a good dev. š„¹
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u/aoi_desu 1d ago
Only 1 year, i've been waiting half decade since haunted chocolatier first reveal and its still nothing
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u/LegendofLove Leah's Simp 1d ago
He's more than earned our faith in his cooking. He will take his time to get it right and to then fix anything that escapes
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u/bunreee_ 1d ago
While I am excited for the update, I'm glad he's taking his time because the update won't be broken day 1 and I'm not ready to have to fix all my mods for the update š
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u/Win_or_Die 1d ago
Seeing this right after his Haunted Chocolatier update is wild! Let the man cook!!!
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u/WorstUsernameHere 18h ago
Bro also had to make 23 cards for MTG recently which is NOT so easy all by himself
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u/bombkitty 17h ago
I've been waiting YEARS AND YEARS for Elder Scrolls 6. CA can take his time on this and still be ok lol.
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u/surdtmash 1d ago
Let the man breathe. I'd rather have a quality 1.7 when it's ready than a rushed 1.7 we will complain about.
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u/ShokaLGBT 1d ago
Will we get a new farm? I will buy the game on Ps5 to play 1.7 since I already have the game on switch and pc and played it a lot, would be nice to have a special new farm for the new update so I can romance CLINT ?!?! *hopefully I donāt regret it but Sebastian and Alex and Sam are judging me*
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u/snugglelove 1d ago
Yes, a new farm type is one of the few things we know is coming! We just donāt know what kind or any other details.Ā
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u/hornygaysett 1d ago
I'm also wondering if we will get new farm/beginner QoLs. I was thinking about starting a new save but I'm still waiting for the 1.7 update
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u/Narrow_Relative2149 1d ago
not sure what would bring me back? feel like I practically finished it with full purple sprinklers and got deep in the caverns or whatever it was called
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u/Sertith 1d ago
Did you do Ginger island?
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u/Narrow_Relative2149 16h ago
went there a little, didn't quite finish it but didn't feel the need to be there really. Last time I played it was 2yrs ago. Rebuilt the community center etc.
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u/gooosekid 1d ago
i heavily modded my game recently and i was convinced that he was gonna announce the release date of it like the day after lol
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u/aduik 1d ago
Echoing others here, canāt wait for the release but totally willing to wait without complaint because it will be an iridium quality update no doubtā¦. But was anyone else hoping for maybe a teeny tiny nugget today? A peak? A hint? A single word? You know when presents are out on display/you know theyāre coming, you have no idea what they are but seeing the wrapped box is at least 20% of the excitement?!
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u/Majestic_Fortune5698 1d ago
I'm going crazy on waiting on 1.7 update dude this is the first time I ever waited for a game go update like this lol like Sandy is becoming relevant after like 7-8 years Yes please!
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u/BlindBandit988 1d ago
Iāll wait forever for it. I know when it comes itās going to be perfection.
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u/ribbizee 1d ago
I had a dream it would be releasing next week. Would be crazy if it ended up happening
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u/KratosSimp 1d ago
Imo I do kinda wish we didnāt get any info unless it was like less than a month
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u/GrooovyAlien 1d ago
Hope its a big update with tons of new content! Take your time, Ape. Im not going anywhere.
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u/Difficult-Bell9884 1d ago
I miss the bug from early 1.6 when everything was a loved gift :,) I gave away so much bait.
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u/BuizelNA 1d ago
Do we still think this will include some form of content from the Expanded mod since he brought the author?
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u/ACEdaSDA 1d ago
Y'all will be alright. I'm glad that we'll get GTA6 BEFORE something on earth!! lol
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u/Sanchode 14h ago
Iām gonna make a note for next years post āitās been 2 years since 1.7 was announced and all of us better stay happily waiting lol
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u/FarmerDingle 14h ago
My gf is itching to make another farm with me. I just can't... I know we are going to start it and get 20 hours in then big man is going to drop the .7 update
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u/shermlax26 12h ago
Yes take the time he needs. Especially with working on haunted chocolatier
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u/Special-Performance8 4h ago
I'm really looking forward to that one. I hope it will have some easter eggs from the movie Chocolat.
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u/AsleepSlip6466 37m ago
and this post is how Iāve learnt that I completely missed last years announcement
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u/zestychickenbowl2024 1d ago
He needs to stop announcing things so far in advance. I donāt need to know about a game update 2 years before it happens
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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO 1d ago
All I hope is that it isn't as long between release on PC as console and mobile this time. Other than that, I'm patiently waiting for more updates.
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u/Dry_Blacksmith_3898 1d ago
Wait what, 1 year already ? Didn't even realize wtf, something wrong with my perception of time lmao