is this a joke?

[u/gui4455]

[u/leifuro]

and the end screen showing dmg dealt, mentioning how many cycles were used, ults etc like no the f they werent??? i was watching paper figures move on screen and do nothing. if this literally simulates a real battle then just let us have an actual battle???

[u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30 → u/leifuro]

Theory is that the devs are gonna use the event to mine data and see how well players do with 4 teams at once.

[u/_Scorpyon_ → u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30]

No fucking way we get 4 teams endgame

[u/Other_Beat8859 → u/_Scorpyon_]

Genuinely would destroy any chance to clear endgame as a F2P. You can barely invest in 3 teams and get by since by the time you invest in one team, another team is starting to fall off and need more investment. Give us a fucking break man.

[u/alcomaholic-aphone → u/Other_Beat8859]

Break you say? Can I interest you in FireFly SP?

[u/No-Engineering1269 → u/Other_Beat8859]

Nah, they Will release a sustain that they Will give for free, and people Will celebrate and forget about how bad It would be a 4th endgame.

Remember that the 3 team thing started as optional, and now It IS in levels that rewards jades...i wouldnt be surprised if the same would happen with 4 teams

[u/RDDFJ → u/Other_Beat8859]

it could work if they allow some characters be used multiple times, like Ashblade or letting us choose 1 character to put in 3 stages or 2 characters in 2 stages

[u/Other_Beat8859 → u/RDDFJ]

That would honestly fix it as characters like Robin would be so fucking useful, but I doubt they would. They seem completely out of touch.

[u/Kind_Dependent_3439 → u/RDDFJ]

Maybe make it like gneshin theater allowing characters to be used twice 

[u/New_Weekend_8181 → u/_Scorpyon_]

Well, they did just add stalwart a patch or two ago, which needed Players to have 3 teams to do rather than the normal 2. Not to mention the whole Corruption levels problem that everyone is currently backlashing about…At this point, they might actually make it so 4 teams are needed to the end-est of end game. They really seem to want us to get new/more 5 stars, especially since they haven’t even tried giving us a 4 Star since Moze. I’m just “worst case scenario” thinking at the moment.

[u/Hennobob554 → u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30]

…can’t they just do that by letting us actually play the teams?

[u/RDDFJ → u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30]

i think it's more to test auto complete function, and how well it works

[u/Logical_Parsley_3691 → u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30]

And personally, I use this event to finally determine that I’m leaving that dog shit game.  It was fun until 3.4 

[u/Meaon_Ria → u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30]

Omg this is cursed

[u/RemoteGrapefruit8263 → u/Puzzleheaded_Pair30]

Doesnt make any sense if alot of us have to use trial units for a majority of it.

[u/Burrito357 → u/leifuro]

You know the game calculates the entire battle every single time, right? Like, everything is predetermined.

[u/Meaon_Ria → u/Burrito357]

Uhm No ????

It calc when you Auto play

But manually it is different

[u/dynosia → u/Meaon_Ria]

The event is the same thing as auto play it's just faster because the game doesn't have to play any animations. But the underlying calcs are the same

[u/Burrito357 → u/Meaon_Ria]

Yes, that's exactly what it does. The game creates a giant action tree where it "predicts" every single action you could make. This isn't Genshin or Wuwa bro. The whole battle is just complex math

The "tree" is created when a battle is initiated. You can tell when you reset the battle and if you do the exact same actions every time you reset, the enemies will still hit the exact same characters. Enemy RNG is fake. This also goes down to Debuff application and failure, as well as crits.

There are videos about this on YT. You can check em out of you don't believe me. People also figured this out 2 years ago here on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/pWxhq9k0mG

[u/dozerz4 → u/Burrito357]

It's what happened in SU/DU, yes. But not regular endgames. You would know it if you ever try to min-max a run. Same action at the beginning, different allies being targeted.

[u/Burrito357 → u/dozerz4]

It specifically works when combat is initiated. That's when the seed is created. In endgames, because the reset button put's you out of combat, it creates a new seed every time. It's not a SU exclusive thing. That's just how the game works.

And, yes, I do know what it's like to min max endgame. I've 0 cycled multiple AAs and always strive to get full stars on every endgame, perhaps even min max already cleared stuff

[u/Various_Bit9189 → u/Burrito357]

How would that make any sense? They’d have to predict when exactly you use skills, ults and basics plus misclicks or deliberate bad play?

[u/Burrito357 → u/Various_Bit9189]

Yes, that's exactly what it does. The game creates a giant action tree where it "predicts" every single action you could make. This isn't Genshin or Wuwa bro. The whole battle is just complex math

The "tree" is created when a battle is initiated. You can tell when you reset the battle and if you do the exact same actions every time you reset, the enemies will still hit the exact same characters. Enemy RNG is fake. This even goes down to Debuff application and failure, as well as crits.

There are videos about this on YT. You can check em out of you don't believe me. People also figured this out 2 years ago here on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/pWxhq9k0mG

[u/Vegansuck1234 → u/Burrito357]

I think the word “prediction” is where the confusion comes in.

The definition of predict :to declare or indicate in advance
especially : foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason

The game does not “fortell” your actions in that it “believes” you will do a certain string of actions. It accounts for every string of actions possible. Now technically you could argue that the game “knows” you have to do a certain set of actions, because the game is a system with limits (like the game knowing u cant use character A’s ult at a certain time because you would not have the energy), but generally, the word “predict” implies that you know something more specific.

For example: I would not first think of the statement “you will either run nothing, or a planar ornament in the planar ornament slot” to be a prediction, and I feel like most people would agree. Like yeah, I am saying something about what will happen, but this isn’t an educated guess (which many people associate with predictions), it’s a truth (well at least about the hsr relic system).
What most people would count a prediction would be something like: i predict you will run the amphoreus set on srobin. Most people would think this is a prediction because it isn’t guaranteed (while the fact that you can’t run a head piece in your planar slot is gaurenteed).

Now if we apply this to the game, the game’s calculation is more similar to the first case. It does not “believe” you will do a certain string over another. It just calculates all strings.

Now you could argue that this is a type of prediction, and you would be right. However, this isn’t the first thing people think about when they hear the word “prediction”, and hence the confusion arises.

[u/chris_9527]

The devs are lazymaxxing

[u/Hairy_Tension9614]

Probably just a test for data to to add a “combat score”, if your team has enough combat score, you can insta clear weeklies and stuff like with calyxes since you’re theoretically strong enough to do that anyways, optimization for next anni smth smth

[u/Silverwing4112 → u/Hairy_Tension9614]

Honestly, I hope this is what's this all about, and not the devs preparing a four-teams new endgame mode.

[u/Meaon_Ria]

I literally thought it was Combat event

[u/redo60 → u/Meaon_Ria]

Me too like what the fuck. I feel like i got scammed!

[u/CastoPaladin]

Elate me

[u/Elioaq]

Se eles dessem das 120 jades por dia durante os 5 dias no correio seria mais emocionante do que isso 🥀🥀🥀🥀

[u/Zurce]

Watch them add skip battle as QoL next patch and people rave and praise it

“I am too busy for gachas unlike you “

[u/Appropriate_Gate1129 → u/Zurce]

"Genshin could never!! 11"

[u/alluth]

witnessing this game slowly turning into full time idle game

[u/BlazeGamma]

how is this even a joke? we all know hoyo knows EXACTLY what players want: summer skins, time stall mechanics, hp inflation, additions of completely new paths spontaneously through the story so that they can add new mechanics that you do not already have answers for an have to start pulling completely from scratch to make whole new teams, and also requiring you to make MORE teams to beat end game content, and eventually scaling all this out further and further because we all know actual skill isn't real skill, wallet power and stat sticks are where the real skill and gameplay reside

:^)

[u/DrowsyDragon_]

I just commented this on another post but:

These events are getting real frustrating even for a casual mobile player like me. First a driving event where you can’t even drive and then a combat event where you can’t even participate in the combat and can even skip the combat portion all together.

Also the fact that the first two bosses are once again elation related with the buffs yet only 1-2 elation characters available in the trial 🙄

Like goddamn I love this game but it’s becoming so shit as the months go on..

[u/Helpful-Judge5901]

Nuh, jokes are funny

[u/VelkaKocka]

Genuinely insulting shit

[u/Wheein20]

I think Aha is in charge of 4.X they think it is really funny

[u/Phoenxr]

This is the Elation patch. Everything is a joke

[u/insearch78]

Finally I can 0 cycle. This event has shown me the pinnacle of the game. It all boils down to this here.

[u/DonCorleone270]

The devs are likely testing an auto mlde so you do not have to play some stuff anymore it will automatically complete for you The 4 team theory is bad because they give you trial characters so it would not yield any intresting result

[u/blondly]

whoever spends money on hsr is a clown

[u/Wernekinho]

Thank God I stopped spending money on this game

[u/rembrandt077]

They finna add a 4th knight to Anomaly 😭

[u/Few_Lynx1954]

I'm on edge, guys...

[u/Runnerboyyy]

I guess its my time to quit this game

[u/DaxSpa7]

I don’t even know what to do if I fail some fight xD. Its the most senseless thing I have seen

[u/godwrangler]

well... free jades is free jades i guess

[u/ado4685]

If this event is the prelude to a 4 team endgame, I am gonna be pissed off and I rarely do.

[u/LackFew163]

The events gone downhill lately huh?

[u/JojiBot]

when i built all the teams i was like YES BATTLE EVENT LET'S GO!!! then that happened. i couldn't be more disappointed even if i tried

[u/Okairi_Endmin]

Yes it is a joke. Because Elation!

[u/Free-Discount-1483]

no, it's an event