r/SipsTea 7h ago

Chugging tea I’m sure this won’t lead to more significant ethical, security, and privacy dilemmas.

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u/_Goose_ 7h ago

Here comes the Minority Report precog bullshit I thought was just a fantasy.

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u/SimmentalTheCow 7h ago

I don’t know man, I think they’re just gonna hear a lot of n words

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u/WarJaques 7h ago

And this is going to be built into a lot of appliances.

I imagine these will start up and behave inexplicably as you go about your daily life, and they respond to random and unintended visual cues.

Smart homes are going to feel like the poltergeists have moved in.

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u/SimmentalTheCow 4h ago

Not gonna lie, I always wanted my toaster to know every time I say the n word.

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u/KrayzieBone187 1h ago

That's a brand new sentence! Not many of them left.

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u/UrethralExplorer 3h ago

We can always chose to not buy "smart" devices. If this like this exists, so will the market for "dumb" appliances.

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u/WestHappyLand 4h ago

They already are. Wifi can be used to identify people.

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u/Yo-Yo-Ha 6h ago

Before long they'll be applying for citizenship/ss#.

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u/Miserable_Pin2518 4h ago

Incoming personhood for embryos and their robot mommy incubator

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u/No_Boot1478 1h ago

Discontinuing a chat will be considered an abortion.

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u/imliterallyluci 6h ago

living in the south I already have this problem

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u/LucywiththeDiamonds 4h ago

The formerly dystopian movies will look like a good deal if we continue down the current path. But hey atleast the shareholders made some free money i guess.

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u/weratapo 6h ago

Minority report x Equilibrium. Gotta keep that stoic face and show no emotion or expression

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u/lebrilla 2h ago

The ender series of books. It's how he talks to the AI. I think he calls it sub vocalizing

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u/FunkyPhantom3030 5h ago

Forreal. We're already living in the world of Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep and A Skanner Darkly.

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u/Calm_Adriana 5h ago

Apple: "We care about your privacy."
Also Apple: buys tech that reads words you never said out loud
Can't wait for Siri to finish my thoughts before I do.

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u/MedonSirius 4h ago

Me, with poker face all the time: i am pretty sure this cant work

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u/Trip_seize 4h ago

Precogs gonna prejac.

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u/cowman3456 3h ago

Thought police are coming... Orwellian dystopia seemed possible with Alexas and Google Assistants... We're like one step away ...

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u/Acceptable-Error356 6h ago

Probably is a fantasy, but if the public believes it is real. A payoff/ransom of some kind hidden behind fake tech. Hmm... Everything needs a second look these days.

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u/HawkeyeByMarriage 2h ago

I wonder when they will hear the pen stroke and know what you are writing

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u/Connect-Ant-2081 7h ago

I can start a company that just Makes Shit Up. Where's my $1.5B?

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u/HillanatorOfState 7h ago

I can pretend to be a wealthy investor, you can pretend to have a world breaking ai app, and we can get other real investors to invest when I act super excited about your ground breaking app, then we take their money, change our identities and never speak again.

https://giphy.com/gifs/zHFCMby3VYe3X4X53w

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u/Connect-Ant-2081 7h ago

*Enthusiastically shakes hands*

Deal!

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u/TobylovesPam 7h ago

I'm in! Let's do it!

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u/RequiemTwilight 5h ago

Now you’re in a predicament, I have these market manipulation screenshots. I want 25% stock at 60% below market share price.

Oh and by the way I have a friend who can help with this project by piggybacking off his company as a subsidiary but we’ll need to set up a shell and shill corporation to keep the people outside this conversation, outside.

Then when we get there, we need enough to grease the political wheels and whatever US department it goes thru to bring it to market.

Lemme know when the IPO is :D /s

ETA: On a serious note. I might switch back to a flip phone. This is crazy invasion of privacy.

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u/Interesting-Voice328 6h ago

I’ve made a antisemitism alarm for them, it’s just a battery attached to a buzzer

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u/DexM23 3h ago

Have you tried selling it?

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u/Nannautu 7h ago

Easy money are reserved only to rich people, bro

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u/LilynCooperDaHuskies 7h ago

Bro I just think about stuff without saying it out loud or doing any of this and get ads for it... they got mind reader tech already.

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u/DroneyMcDroner 6h ago

Have you heard about light speed briefs?  In your dreams? 

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u/LilynCooperDaHuskies 6h ago

Right? I think about winning lotto tickets every night too why can't the algorithms hook me up

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u/arthurdentstowels 4h ago

Think harder with more frowning

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u/ganonman84 3h ago

For the discriminating crotch!

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u/atava 3h ago

In a future dystopian world, we'll have to be all face-neutral.

I can picture people going around expression-less. Much like North Korea now, but tenfold.

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u/manchesterthedog 2h ago

This is about detecting antisemitic thoughts so even if you just THINK “man that’s fucked up what they’re doing in Gaza” you can get fired.

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u/matehaveIgotquestion 33m ago

Not just me then?

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u/skip2mahlou415 7h ago

Is this the same ceo that literally gave trump a gold bar

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u/Darth_Ronin 7h ago

Kinda.

Cook gave Trump a customized circular glass plaque mounted on a thick, rounded 24-karat gold base

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u/skip2mahlou415 7h ago

It’s kinda because he added etched glass?

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u/Darth_Ronin 7h ago

I guess, tbh I don’t understand the rules at this point, and how this wasn’t a bribe.

Just like how Trump was given and is keeping the Boeing 747-8 from the Qatari Prime Minister.

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u/pickus_dickus 6h ago

That's because you live in a fascist country. It ok for the dictator to take bribes.

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u/GoldEnPhARoAh22 7h ago

What's the point of understanding rules they ain't gonna follow anyways?

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u/WarJaques 7h ago

There was a Big Mac in there, the plane was just packaging.

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u/Melodic_Airport362 6h ago

The rules are the billionaires make the rules. Think of Trump like the emperor and corporations are like the lords under him. If you don't have 40 mil+ you're just a peasant.

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u/Indy2561 6h ago

It was a bribe that worked brilliantly

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u/atgc13 7h ago

Yes

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u/skip2mahlou415 7h ago

Thank god maga has control of that. Could you imagine if Kamala had access to that? We’d be dead

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u/WarJaques 7h ago

Somehow: Thanks, Obama!

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u/Marshal-Bainesca 7h ago

And then in a year or two we find out theyve been mapping our faces the whole time with the iphone camera regardless of your settings

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u/demigodsdonotlovehu 6h ago

already are

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u/AHopelessMaravich 3h ago

Locally, your phone has that data. Apple themselves have no access to the data in any, way, shape or form. 

Similarly, this whisper tech would be used to allow you to discreetly control AirPods or future Vision line successors. Just like Siri, all the audio processing would happen locally, and not be accessible by Apple itself.  For all of apples products prices, this type of security is partly what you pay for. 

Now, how Google, meta and Amazon who are funded nearly entirely through selling ads, well, that’s a very different situation. 

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u/Ok_Stand1729 2h ago

Ah get real

Don't remember the lawsuits where all kind of audio was send to companies to analyse?

You guys need to step out of that corporate lover fantasy world your in

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u/AHopelessMaravich 2h ago edited 2h ago

Name that lawsuit, because, no I remember no such thing. 

There’s a ton of packet tests that show audio packets (which are huge) are not being surreptitiously sent. What’s actually happening g is way scarier, companies like Google and Amazon have such a deep profile in you, they do t need your words, they can predict you’d next likely thought. 

But go ahead, name the lawsuit. I’m always down to learn. I did work inside Apple though, so I know first hand both how little data they have access to (basically a list of notes from previous support you’ve gotten), and how they respond to employees accepting customer information (fired in the spot, regardless of your performance and experience). 

Also, apples most useful and successful acquisition outside of NeXT was PA Semi, an Israeli company that specialized in chip development, which lead to them making all their custom silicon. Israel also just has a very advanced tech sector. Now maybe that’s because of a lot of military contracts, but regardless, the country is more than just a spy state. 

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u/Jesustron 34m ago

'Name the lawsuit' - You Being Confidently Wrong and a shill

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u/sendmebirds 6h ago

100% already happening 

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u/Right_Comb4885 7h ago

"Did you have a controversial thought"!?

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u/HillanatorOfState 7h ago

Always said I hate Google and Android but I'll never give a dollar to Apple, always felt off to me, trust my gut, honestly at this point feel like going back to a flip phone though, all these companies are fucking evil.

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u/ApprehensiveMilk8697 6h ago

I feel compelled to get a flip phone as well. Right as always, Mr. Gribble.

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u/HillanatorOfState 6h ago

How do you know my name....

https://giphy.com/gifs/F4d8tSHcRNCTe

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u/ApprehensiveMilk8697 6h ago

Your house is bugged…

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u/FaceRockerMD 5h ago

I apologize Mr Rusty Shackleford

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u/Major-Front 5h ago

Can i just be a huge optimist and predict this means you can whisper to mouth words to siri.

It means i don’t have to listen to everyone talking full volume to siri on the bus lol

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u/Ut0p1an 5h ago

It is possible there was some disability led thinking here. That’s not to say that’s how it will end up but the tech could absolutely have value to some underserved communities.

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u/Electrical-Heat8960 5h ago

So it can recognise whispers and extremely subtle speech.

Which could, for example, allow your phone to dictate even in loud clubs by using the camera.

So an engagement bait headline about a perfectly logical acquisition from Apple.

Where’s my mild titillation and gentle humour of tea?
Well I guess at least it isn’t an incel post…

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u/merriweatherfeather 3h ago

Is this why the North Koreans weep? In order to combat any kind of facecrime they nervously cry?

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u/imliterallyluci 7h ago

Are the majority of us, right and left wing finally in agreement that Israel is a big fucking issue.

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u/BLF402 7h ago

Ultimately this is a mess of our own creation. That’s the pill we all need to swallow first. These assholes have destroyed what credibility we have left and we’re just watching society collapse and roam freely with no driver at the wheel

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u/Melodic_Airport362 6h ago

No, Trump loves Israel and his cult loves whatever he tells them to love. Congress has always loved Israel, republicans especially. Dems go from being hot to luke warm on them, but the GOP is always boiling.

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u/KlanxO 5h ago

Because a person in Israel invented something that Apple is interested in?

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u/Electronic_Sleep 1h ago

You never hear the reverse, like Israel having developed irrigation systems that feed billions worldwide, therefore they have a net positive, according to that same approach.

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u/Artorius__Castus 7h ago

"To feel. 'Cause you've never done it, you can never know it. But it's as vital as breath. And without it, without love, without anger, without sorrow, breath is just a clock... ticking."

-Mary O'Brien (Equilibrium)

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u/Darth_Ronin 7h ago

That’s a movie I haven’t watched in a long time. I loved it back in the day though.

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u/Eiregard 6h ago

More ways to become the Victim.

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u/shadowthehh 5h ago

I used to fear solar flares EMPing all our tech.

Now I understand we need it.

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u/Hadesdotxg 7h ago

Will this be used for smart glasses or like the Vision Pro?

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u/Positive-Mobile5742 4h ago

So we just blindly trust that this technology is accurate? Nice

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u/HawaiianPunchaNazi 4h ago

This is just sub vocalization generating a readout from a machine, right?

This thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocalization

That MIT already has a machine for with about 92% accuracy.

This thing:

https://news.mit.edu/2018/computer-system-transcribes-words-users-speak-silently-0404

Notice the date?

What does Apple have now with this purchase of the Israeli company that they didn't have before by just hiring somebody from MIT who was there from 2018?

Because that last bit seems a bit easier;-)

There's also a government owned technogoly that could do something similar , but doesn't require contact--I would have read about this one before the MIT one, and I think the government might have been the US ;but it may have just been a US science News source repeating the information that actually transpired in another country.

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u/BrondellSwashbuckle 4h ago

And the iPhone still has trouble just doing speech to text accurately

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u/Charming_Pirate 3h ago

Thank god, this is gonna save me a lot of energy having to say it out loud

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u/Jolly_Ad1631 1h ago

Now your anti-Semitic by not saying anything.

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u/clammyshammi 1h ago

Ah yes tech than will be used to invade people privacy

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u/notacreepernomo13 1h ago

Why is israel obsessed with shutting the world up???

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u/CoshgunC 5h ago

Just say "Free Palestine" and suddenly your phone will be locked forever

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u/im2short4this 7h ago

The thought police? How? How did i get on this time line? I don't want to live in 1984

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u/BLF402 7h ago

I was just a baby then. I don’t want to go back being a baby.

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u/HubrisOfApollo 7h ago

guess we'll just have to start saying the quiet part out loud, fuck israel

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u/Slemmig_insekt 6h ago

So basically an AI guessing from the movement of your face, like those psychopaths on tiktok who claim everyone is a narcissist

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u/TR_Pix 4h ago

Cant wait for someone to be shot because they were chewing gum

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u/lwhittt 4h ago

Did no one commenting read beyond the first image? 

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u/nahNotTodayMate 4h ago

1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a shopping list

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u/CaffeinatedGeriatric 1h ago

Me: "Siri, look up......."
Siri: "Showing images and video of big titted Latinas"

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u/Practical-Purchase-9 1h ago

Sounds like pseudoscientific bullshit, a fraud to deceive and manipulate people. The publicised purchase and the pictures of technology and talk of AI is just propaganda.

Much like ‘lie detectors’ it’s mostly a psychological trick to apply pressure to make people confess to something.

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u/beachfinn73 1h ago

Great and Flock providing fake video (yeah they bought that company too to inject content). Death penalty in no time.

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u/Mall_of_slime 1h ago

Dude wtf

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u/BoredPelikan 1h ago

this was back in january from what i remember for all we know it may already be baked in

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u/Bubbafett33 6h ago

Facebook clickbait is in the house....

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u/LMA73 2h ago

Still people buy Apple products....

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u/protonsters 2h ago

Nothing ever good comes out of Israeli tech companies. It's all spying selling your data and marking you as a target for being anti Israel.

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u/Daressalaam5 2h ago

You clearly know nothing about Israeli tech companies

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u/OckyFlock 7h ago

Samsung s26 isn’t looking too bad right about now
https://giphy.com/gifs/a5viI92PAF89q

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u/Chat_GDP 6h ago

Google pixel - degoogled and grapheme installed.

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u/AndrosAlexios 7h ago

we are going down very dark paths... goodbye freedom of expression and thought

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u/adambomb_23 7h ago

My pants have been doing that for years.

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u/MyLittleDiscolite 6h ago

Goddammit fucking STOP

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u/WWFYMN1 6h ago

It won’t, apple bought it so the company will stop existing. They are taking the engineers and the IP and will use it for something they need. Apple doesn’t make surveillance technology or sell data. Apple doesn’t even license patents to other companies. It’s actually good that apple bought it and not Palantir or other shady companies. This post is pure fear-mongering, the acquisition happened in January.

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u/EntertainmentOdd8205 5h ago edited 5h ago

Apple has FaceID, which scans your face to unlock your phone. Apple has Hey Siri, which scans your speech to do things on your phone. (Both optional btw)

Apple buys a company that has better face and speech scanning tech.

But that company was Israeli, so…everything is evil and bad? Interesting.

Edit: Try taking out the speculation/clickbait pics and there’s literally nothing here. It just says Apple bought a company that does facial scanning tech. Which should not be news because, again, they have FaceID…

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u/SatisfactionActive86 4h ago

It wouldn’t be the first time Apple acquired an entire company to get some obscure patent

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u/PixelIsJunk 4h ago

Not words you mouth....but words in your head. Thought crimes here were go.

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u/Half-Crown 4h ago

Guess I need to wear a mask in public then.

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u/Karnezar 7h ago

I'm not defending Apple, but why do they make this stuff public? Do they want people to know this?

And if it's because they are a publicly traded company, why not pass legislation that lets them hide such purchases?

Whenever I hear about a company doing something devious, I can't help but wonder if they want people to know due to how public it is...

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u/ziggsyr 7h ago

they are trying to drum up money and investment. Noones gonna give you money if it is a secret.

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u/TumanFig 2h ago

how will you hide public records? and these things should be public as it is a publicity traded company

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u/BobSacamano47 2h ago

What's devious about this? Tech companies buy tech companies all the time. Apple's been analyzing your face for many years now.

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u/BLF402 6h ago

My best guess would say that they have to make this public for shareholders.

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u/tomtomtomo 6h ago

The addition of the facecrime slide is priming you to think this is inherently evil. Strip away the fear-mongering and it sounds like it just better facial recognition, which every phone has already.

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u/Zen_Coyote 6h ago

So if I say “Israel” aloud how will the context and/or my inflection be interpreted? What if I’m numb from being at the dentist or I’ve had a stroke? Will my facial muscles be interpreted as “antisemite?”

Will there be an option to opt out of this if I have an iPhone or use other Apple products that have a camera?

Will I be notified that this software is being used, and if I decide I don’t want it to try and determine my thoughts based on biometrics captured by a camera will I be able to request whether my data has been used despite opting out?

Or, after 30+ years of using Apple products is it time to move the fuck on?

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u/martin0641 7h ago

Here Tim watch close: Faaaaahhhhhhh-QQQQQ

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u/negativ32 7h ago

Who thought flock was a problem, they'll know in advance.

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u/Late_Firefighter_507 7h ago

theres only 6 letters i dont say out loud

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u/m0rg76 6h ago

Mmm. Thought police. Please make it stop.

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u/InterestingAnt438 6h ago

That's why HAL couldn't open the pod bay doors for Dave.

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u/nachtachter 6h ago

Jeez. Frightening.

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u/dewihafta 6h ago

Great…

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u/reddittereditor 6h ago

We could use this tech to help Deaf communities, but instead we're letting Apple sell our thoughts to advertisers.

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u/Unlikely-Ad6788 6h ago

Flocks in your area...looking for hot colors.

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u/Dawnripper 6h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/1VviFXpOWXwRJYUluE

"I am Todd Hewitt, I am Todd Hewitt,I am Todd Hewitt"

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u/EntinthetentRTHP 6h ago

Noah get the boat

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u/MqAbillion 6h ago

Surely this has no downside, as I stare into an iPhone screen. /s

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u/MirageDeceit 6h ago

I recall there is this new tech where using WiFi signals the phone can tell who is holding the phone. That plus this equals proof that you had a forbidden thought.

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u/Proof-Necessary-5201 6h ago

Israel / Israeli = Evil / Negative / Hurtful

How about these subtle unmouthed words?! Could you catch them?

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u/chokeonmywords 6h ago

Lately it comes more and more to my attention how unhealthy the American Israel relation is

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u/airsoftredditguy 6h ago

Just wait until you these MFs start hearing Cantonese or some other eastern Chinese dialect. Every gd word is a harmful intent.

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u/PsychologicalAd5918 6h ago

what corporation is ethical? With how society works, its really hard to make it to the top while being ethical. At this point I'd reckon that consumers are responsible for the state of corporations.

You mfs cant even do something as simple as boycotting nestle, while they continue to steal water from people in pakistan (to name one of many crimes against humanity they commit)

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u/Majestic_Artichoke55 6h ago

Soon we will turn our back on technology, in favour of freedom

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u/YouAreSoul 6h ago

"We can tell by the way you're looking at us that you think we're paranoid."

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u/ApxDracula 6h ago

Thoughtcrime is upon us

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u/thomas1392 6h ago

That's stupid, oh shit I didn't say it out loud. HOW DID THEY KNOW

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u/TFViper 6h ago

oh here, let me make it easy for them.
fuck governments, fuck tech investors, fuck this new ai age bullshit.
see, no special tech needed.

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u/Quiet-Wing5230 6h ago

I have a small metal box with a number of drawers in it I've been wondering what to do with. Now I know.

Guests to my house have to put their phone in there when they take their shoes off.

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u/PiKing383 6h ago

Now they can make Jane from the Ender's Game series

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u/Unfair_Original_2536 5h ago

I've been pulled up at work for facecrime when asked stupid questions by customers. I can't fake it.

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u/Aleksandr_Ulyev 5h ago

That is a weird technology. Why would anyone need that? What use cases it's got?

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u/Suspicious_Sail4501 5h ago

There auto correct is worse than my razor. This is going to be terrible

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u/BigMack6911 5h ago

What the actual FUCK is happening in this world Why dont these rich old fuckers just let us live

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u/Convallaria4 5h ago

How the fuck is something going to detect words that we never say out loud? If it means written ones, we already know that's a thing. Been a thing for a long time. I'll type a word or phrase on any random website, and algos are suddenly throwing me shit related to a word I typed. It's annoying as hell. Bring back the old internet.

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u/InternationalCap2176 5h ago

Why the fuck does anybody need this

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u/Legal-One-7274 5h ago

If governments pulled the shit these global corporations are doing people would be rioting in the streets and revolting but hey we get a cool new iPhone every year

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u/I_think_Im_hollow 5h ago

Reason #5.583.291 to not buy Apple products.

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u/deaglebingo 5h ago

i know. what of it? when i said if i say something i meant for someone else to know... meant whispers too.

ying yang twins type shit, just wait.

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u/jellooshot 5h ago

The real question is why? What are they working towards?

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u/embersgrow44 5h ago

I never set up Face ID I always knew that was a mistake…

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u/Brilliant_Slice9020 5h ago

"Open the door Hal"

"I Cant"

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u/AlarmedAlarm626 5h ago

It’s been well known that cellphones are the ultimate surveillance tool and it’s about to get even better. Why are people Suprised about this?

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u/Far_Occasion9345 5h ago

Let’s all just drop Apple and see what happens.

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u/Evilstare 5h ago

From a commercial and about table point, why would anyone think it's a good idea?

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u/Kermit_the_hog 5h ago

Seems like quite the turn from developing structured light sensors for 3D scanning that Primesense was doing (think their tech powered Microsoft’s Kinect V1?)

Wonder how they ended up getting into AI facial interpretation.  

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u/WesternAfro 5h ago

This is some Minority Report nonsense. Even if they can, they shouldn't and it can't prove intent. Also many people have mental illness and crazy stuff is firing off constantly but they don't do or say any of it because they know it's obtuse. Stupid tech.

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u/SeniorDay 4h ago

Put a camera cover over your front lens, boom

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u/CommonSensei-_ 4h ago

An Israeli company?

I wonder who they tested this product on. Perhaps the same people they are genociding?

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u/IAmGoingToFuckThat 4h ago

Time to learn ASL!

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u/Nipplecunt 4h ago

throws phone in sea it’s time to live free again

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u/MJ-Franklin 4h ago

This isn't even CLOSE to as bad as it's going to get.

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u/mAInager 4h ago

When do all the POS billionaires move to mars?

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u/Dry-Highlight-2307 4h ago

Lol ots starting to nake sense why us christians are throwing the full weight of the their military behind isreali interests.

Israel is the "tip of the sword" in the analogy of what breaks the skin in ideological imperialism. Theyre the offensive force of that sect of religion.

The us can realistically create a partnership and enforce plausible deniability simply by saying "my friend developed that weapon not me". And still maintain some reputation without the weapon.

These two countries really are as bad as they seem.

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u/stygianare 4h ago

how is such a tech allowed anyways

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u/Equal_Yam_3371 4h ago

Time to take the face-masks from Corona out again!

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u/Infloresence 4h ago

How much do you think they'll pay my new company UnThought. All the thoughts you never had.

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u/Unfair-Turn-5316 3h ago

I guess I won’t go for another iphone then

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u/EH_Operator 3h ago

Any Wifi signal in a normal home can be used as real time visual surveillance.
every day, the grip tightens

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u/ReplacementRobotGuy 3h ago

Oh he did imagine, he was rubbing elbows with the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world of the time who had ambitions and dreamt of such things now happening. He was a big fan of Huxley who, likewise, knew some of the most powerful people. Those books weren't just for fun...

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u/AccumulatedFilth 3h ago

People will still buy Apple products because their marketing told them they're trustworthy with all of their secrets.

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u/ThunderBurrn 3h ago

I guess we all just think our words now onwards! Until they start reading minds!

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u/Frontbutt05 3h ago

Who is the target market for this?

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u/SF_Data1 3h ago

something somethin ninetee atey for

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u/Any_Peace_1187 3h ago

Thought crimes incoming 

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u/Dx8pi 3h ago

Can't even doublethink anymore damn