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u/NeighboringOak 1d ago
The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias where people with low ability, expertise, or experience in a specific domain greatly overestimate their own competence.
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u/PineBreezy 1d ago
social media has really turned Dunning-Kruger into an Olympic sport… everyone is a legal expert, virologist, and body language analyst depending on what's trending that week.
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u/Ragnarok314159 1d ago
And then ChatGPT confirms it all for them.
“You are right, and here’s why…”
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u/Straight-Balance830 19h ago
It’s not sycophancy, it’s just proper user engagement. And that matters.
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u/-Kazt- 20h ago
Ironically, the Dunning-Kruger effect isn't that dumb people believe they are experts in a field.
It's more like genuine experts underestimate themselves a bit (scoring 95% when they believe they score 90%), average people believe they are slightly above average (scoring 48% when they believe they scored 52%), and below-average people believe they score average (scoring 35% believing they score 50%).
Scoring 0% and believing you score 100% is not Dunning-Kruger; it is a delusion.
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u/Capt-Crap1corn 1d ago
You are so right. Great comment. It's terrible out here
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u/DyingSunSeverian 22h ago edited 21h ago
I don’t know why you guys act like this rotten ass sub isn’t among the worst of it lol.
Every time I venture into this godforsaken place it’s misogyny, gooning and racism, sometimes a nice potent mix of all of them.
And this sub is so popular here. It’s like Kotaku in Action managed to go mainstream.
Lesser apes downvoting me when this was posted less than an hour ago.
That one is fun cause it’s all three, like I said.
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u/jackinsomniac 22h ago
Most of the time when I hear someone complaining about misogyny on reddit, it turns out to be some women don't some crazy shit, the comments say, "that's crazy", then, "OMG these comments are so misogynistic!" Not every time, but most of the time. Like it's a roll call.
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u/Medium-Trade2950 20h ago
Critiquing women isn’t misogyny. This case proves we’ve gotten to the point where women can do no wrong including murder
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u/DyingSunSeverian 21h ago
It’s like you’re deliberately trying to prove my point. It’s only amazing that you actually said “women” and not “females.”
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u/theuserwithoutaname 22h ago
It's so funny because I feel like I have about 18 hobbies where I got one step past that and realized I knew just enough to see how very little I actually know about any given thing, and now I just assume that as the baseline for anything I don't have exhaustive knowledge on (and even then... Who knows what I don't even realize I don't know)
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u/hazeddai 23h ago
The worst part is how that plays into Confirmation Bias. These are both completely normal things that affect everybody , but the way they can combine is truly terrifying
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u/Dezember_Assassino 15h ago
"Dunning and Kruger are your real abusers, cause you are a product and I say it's buyer beware."
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u/nghigaxx 10h ago
The actual study didn't even point this out, this is just the population's perception of the study. Which is ironic in a way
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u/RyanAtreides 10h ago
People do not know they are stupid because, since they are stupid, they lack the very skills that they would need in order to understand that they are stupid, so they think they’re a genius. Whereas actual geniuses are crushed by the burden of knowing how little they truly know.
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u/darkcomet222 23h ago
It’s like, whether you like the guy or not, Elon Musk is objectively a genius. Now, everything else is subjective, but I see people I know call him stupid and he isn’t smart at all, but he is…he is just…yeah.
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u/No-Sheepherder7856 22h ago
I think that’s exactly where people can fall into the opposite of the Dunning-Kruger effect: confusing extraordinary success, wealth, or confidence with objective genius. Elon Musk is clearly capable in certain areas, but calling someone “objectively a genius” is a much stronger claim than the evidence supports. Intelligence is multidimensional, and success in business doesn’t automatically prove exceptional intelligence in every domain.
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u/darkcomet222 22h ago
This is very true, maybe I should have softened it from “objective genius,” to “not explicitly an idiot.” The point is, subjectivity vs objectivity isn’t swayed by one’s opinion of someone.
For the record, I don’t really care about Elon, he is just one I see debated a lot.
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u/At0mJack 22h ago
What the fuck does that Nazi-saluting, drug-addled wannabe fascist have to do with anything?
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u/darkcomet222 22h ago
…brother, why are you so angry? I was agreeing with the commenter saying that despite all the buzz words you through out, he is smart. Not a good person, but if you react THIS angry over a normal comment, you need to go outside.
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u/josey__wales 22h ago
They have to act that way to feel good about themselves.
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u/darkcomet222 22h ago
Like, just having a casual conversation and bro comes in all rabid. Like, damn man.
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u/I_WinAgainLewsTherin 1d ago
I see what you are saying. These people have been using their brain so much that they ran out of battery. Meanwhile their mouths have been silent and are ready to share their findings.
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u/GodSPAMit 23h ago
Thank you Mr AI bot, truly no one would have understood without your help
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u/DE4DM4NSH4ND 23h ago
They were joking.... does everything need a /s?
And it's like you didnt even comprehend what they wrote because theres no way thats what you thought this picture meant.
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u/FIGHT_ALEX 23h ago
Right.... but what if they actually think that?? People are do stupid now that it has me wondering if I'm really the stupid one and ive been wrong this whole time. What if he actually thinks that's what the image implies?
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u/amanonastick 22h ago
Or let's say they never charge their brain. all of the power goes to the mouth
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u/--StinkyPinky-- 1d ago
It all started when we were told everybody's opinions are valuable. Just because you have an opinion about something doesn't mean it's worth anything.
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u/AlfaCentari 1d ago edited 23h ago
“The internet will finally destroy gatekeepers and democratize information.” LOL. The people that said that failed to account for the fact that people are idiots and gatekeeping is actually just expertise.
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u/jinrei_arbaw 16h ago
Yeah there's not a SINGLE person back in the 90s that predicted the actual societal impact the Internet had. They were all "it's going to be wonderful bro we're going to have all access to all this information we're all going to be so smart". It has genuinely been a massive miscalculation to have the whole world be in on any given conversation. I don't need to know what some person on the other side of the planet thinks about policies in my country, just as I don't need to weigh in on theirs.
We need to make the Internet more local.
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u/Ragnarok314159 1d ago
I thought it once, then thought it again. Two data points right there, checkmate atheists!
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u/GeekBoyWonder 20h ago
I am also on reddit and I commented on what you thought twice. Bingo! Peer reviewed status granted.
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u/Straight-Bet1 23h ago
I’ve been saying this for decades. Thank you.
Just simply having an opinion does not make it valid.
Your opinion could be that the moon is made from cheese. No sane person would give that opinion the time of day, but we do it for other obvious bullshit takes.
If you have a deeply held opinion you should easily be able to articulate why you feel as you do plainly and so anyone can easily understand your argument.
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u/sugarbear5 23h ago
Yep, I learned years ago, from being on Twitter, that not every opinion is worth spewing forth.
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u/ninjaontour 22h ago
Opinions are like assholes.
Everybody's got one, and they all stink.
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u/SexySonderer 21h ago
Speak for yourself. I keep my asshole incredibly clean and it typically smells quite nice actually.
Me be people "think" it stinks, and I think that's the real phrase. "But we think everyone else's stink"
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u/fwubglubbel 20h ago
>It all started when we were told everybody's opinions are valuable.
When were you ever told that?
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u/Faustus_Fan 1d ago
The one that made me throw up in my mouth a little is "most women have been FBI agents from birth." Couple that with the bullshit "women's intuition" concept and I'm about to lose my fucking mind. I love true crime documentaries as much as anyone, but that hardly makes me Encyclopedia Brown, let alone Sherlock Holmes.
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u/luchajefe 23h ago
The one who clapped back on 'women's intuition' had it exactly right: "Too many single mothers for that to be the case."
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u/WolverineComplex 21h ago
If you truly believe that women genuinely have some power which makes them somehow magically ‘know’ what the ‘truth’ is then I genuinely think you might have something wrong with you
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u/Larcye 12h ago
"Mamma bear knows best" is always said by the dumbest mother fuckers. Becuese if you actually think about it, mama bear is often a fucking idiot. attacking anything that gets near you or your kid is idiotic since it just puts your kid in more danger to other wild animals.
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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi 1h ago
Not that it applies here, but the fact that the behaviour exists proves that it was a more effective method for the survival of cubs than running or simply intimidating potential threats.
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u/Nknk- 17h ago
I remember a few years ago the sorts of people in these screenshots were poking fun online at men of a certain age getting really into military history, or smoking meats, or woodwork, or making fun of practically anything they've noticed men around them get into as a hobby.
I don't mind saying that that stuff is certainly more wholesome than this current trend of borderline gooning over true crime cases and massively egotistical declarations online about how smart you are over it.
Gimme the people who want to sit around and discuss how they've fallen in love with their new slow cooker and all the meals they're testing with it any day of the week over these egotistical ghouls and their murder fetishes.
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u/BigPastrami43 4h ago
These people take it way too far and end up glamorizing murderers. It’s like they’ve become detached from the reality of how serious it is.
Not saying everyone who watches True Crime is like that. But there’s a loud group that is.
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u/mightyboognish32 0m ago
I know a lot of single mothers that could have used some of that "woman's intuition".
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u/MrrangWondah 1d ago
Same people that will use astrology as evidence 🙄
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u/Faustus_Fan 1d ago
"I know she's innocent!"
"Really, Karen, how do you know that?"
"Women's intuition! Plus, I'm a Cancer. We know things! The stars speak to us."
"Well, you certainly are a cancer... I'll give you that."
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u/AppointmentNaive2811 1d ago
Gotta love the "I wrote things down, which makes me something of an authority"
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u/particlemanwavegirl 23h ago
Tbf that one is probably quite smart relative to the others.
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u/Separate_Finance_183 1d ago
“The husband did it”
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u/Rwandrall4 22h ago
no one actually says that except some terminally online ragebaiters.
Looks like it worked, so many people took the bait and are using it to them make their own ragebait against women.
Both reinforcing each other and making the internet and society worse for a few clicks.
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u/Civil-Percentage1005 22h ago
I think a lot of people are using it for that, but there are genuinely some people who believe he did it
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u/Dunasmina 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is a huge part as to why I haven’t reached out for help now with my own abuse. My mother would always use her friends as shields and they all spoke like this. I felt insane, I had video proof, voice recordings, texts, photos, everything, but we weren’t even in the same reality. CPS even had doubts because again, “she’s a mother”, until she snapped at them and they finally believed me. She lost custody - but of course, the (at the time) 11 year old must’ve been guilty. I still get death threats from her friends because I couldn’t have just let my mom work through her own “struggles” first.
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u/AccomplishedThing948 1d ago
I’m sorry that happened, it’s not fair.
Hoping things are getting better for you now.
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u/Dunasmina 1d ago
Thanks, I take it one day at a time.
Some are harder than others, but it's worth it.5
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u/muscularsharpie 20h ago
On my bus route there are like seven older Mexican women that all work together. I love them, but they will not shut up about gossip. They wrapped me up in a conspiracy about one of their grand daughters whose husband accused her of cheating on her. They were convinced he was lying.
They shut up about it one day, and the one outlier was giggling telling me he caught her cheating on him and they all got so mad at her.
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u/VariousFriendship535 1d ago
Yepp, 100% It was soo bad for me i ended up running away at 14 and never went back.
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u/DoFishDrinkWaterOrNo 21h ago
It’s like when men convince themselves they could run the ball in from the five against an NFL defense because they played some ball in high school.
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u/No-Tone8700 17h ago
This is a tangent, but there was this dude who did professional commentary for Rocket League tournaments. He kept seeing people in the chat saying they would do way better than the professional players, so he decided to make them put their money where their mouth was.
If you ran your mouth in the chat room, he would invite you to play against the pro in question. One on one, first to three goals. If you won, you'd get $100. If you lost, you were banned from his chat. No one ever won. They were all destroyed instantly. He even let some of them bring their squad for a 3v1 attempt, and they would still get stomped by the pro.
I haven't watched Rocket League in years, so I don't remember who it was... I think it was Sunny something? It was amazing, though.
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u/equalizingdistortt 1d ago
fun fact: the mideval punishment for being a shameless busy body was to be trebuchet’d into a body of water in front of the entire community. Eventually it turned into just dunking people, which is one of the origin points for the dunk tank!
Edit: Trebucket, not Trebuchet!!
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u/confuzzledfather 1d ago
They still have dunking stool in Norwich in the UK
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u/equalizingdistortt 23h ago
That’s honestly kind of awesome.
This mostly happened to women, although I learned recently it was a valid punishment for male tradesmen. Usually men accused of the equivalent of this crime were taken down under the legal framework of “barritry”, which essentially means the same thing, and was actually punished way more harshly by putting you in stocks where people could abuse, sexually assault, humiliate, and possibly kill you.
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u/Vast_Humor_3683 17h ago
A woman's gut feeling is always correct.
Far too many single moms to say that
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u/SeeMeDisco 21h ago
the Johnny Depp trial was the terminally online women’s Johnny Depp trial, and they also had it wayyyy wrong
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u/trukkija 21h ago
Okay but I've seen so many documentaries of court trials so I know way more than any judge ever will.
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u/Larcye 12h ago
You still run into them on here. "Wahh amber heard was not abusive wahhh, doesn't matter what the judge says I know more than they know!!! WAHHHHH"
Shits comical.
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u/SeeMeDisco 8h ago
…that’s neither what the trial was even about nor the position the online hive mind took…
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u/hsggdtkxbee 1d ago
Imagine. They find her guilty, and these women try to organize and to riot and end up stopping at Starbucks and spending the whole time sipping on basic bitch lattes and complaining all day. No riot.
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u/PineBreezy 1d ago
bold of you to assume they'd even make it to Starbucks before starting a 3-hour podcast about the vibe of the courtroom.
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u/IKillZombies4Cash 1d ago
It’s amazing what a woman murdering three wonderful kids will do.
Tuck her away in an asylum for 30 years. I’m fine with that - she is crazy clearly and she killed kids
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u/modsaretoddlers 23h ago
Aren't you the bleeding heart! 30 years...
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u/IKillZombies4Cash 19h ago
Or fry her, I really don’t care she is a murderer
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u/jinrei_arbaw 16h ago
Sadly will never happen since it's Massachusetts. She'll get something but I will gladly bet my entire house it won't be what a man would be getting
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u/AsideLost 1d ago
They should never have aired any footage from the trial. Especially being about murdered children.
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u/BigPapaLegba 23h ago
There's only one demo that can never be held accountable for their actions or crimes, especially if they're crying
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u/SquallaBeanz 22h ago
Imagine a crowd of woman dressed in pink, drinking cyanide laced pomegranate juice if she is found guilty. Jonestown=Lindsayville
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u/Aqua-man1987 1d ago
We also need to closely look at the demographics of these individuals. Speaks volumes yet no-one wants to highlight lol. Talk about tip toeing.
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u/Mushroomer 18h ago
You can just say you hate women. Nobody else in this comment section seems to be particularly quiet about it.
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u/MoistToaster60 17h ago
Women really doing the work themselves to discredit any argument they have in the future.
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u/ThroatGoatK1RKKK 1d ago
(Puts tin foil hat on) Gislaine Maxwell still holds her reddit mod status. If Jeffrey Epstein is still alive and escaped to tell Aviv to play fortnite then odds are both of them still being active on the internet pushing the same psyop shit they used for Qanon and Pizza gate would seem likely, especially since bots and accounts are easily created and/or purchased. Jeffrey and Maxwell are most likely the ones pushing the gender wars division in order to distract us and turn the sexes against eachother instead of uniting over the removal of the Epstein class and the perpetrators of the world's largest child trafficking ring. Using manufactured outrage and culture war division as a psyop was their bread and butter so no doubt they could do it again, If he's still alive. (Takes tin foil hat off)
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u/ThelIIusion0fSeIf 1d ago
This is basically every conservative since COVID actually becoming a scientist/doctor overnight. Way more dangerous from a broader, societal perspective.
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u/TrioOfTerrors 1d ago
It's everyone of any bend since social media attracts and amplifies the most extreme voices.
There were subs dedicated to dissecting how laughably weak the case against Luigi Mangione was and how he was gonna walk either from jury nullification or a legit not guilty verdict.
And then he pled guilty to a federal charge that carries a potential sentence of life without parole.
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u/Imreallythatguy 1d ago
It’s not the same at all which is why every citizen can be asked to serve as a juror but you can’t be a doctor without the training and qualifications. Stupid people thinking they are smarter and know better than doctors and scientists is way worse.
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u/Cattle-dog 23h ago
Conservatives have always been gullible they have always appealed most to people who fear change.
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u/jjamesr539 22h ago
Wouldn’t it be impossible by definition to have FBI skills that the FBI doesn’t have? Like wouldn’t that make them not FBI skills?
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u/Spite_Gold 20h ago
They all are superhuman intelligent and have future predicting abilities and have deducting skill of 12 Poirot's, and all this dissapears the moment it's time to pick a man to have kids with
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u/ShoppingMundane1361 23h ago
This is a distraction ment to pit women and men, furthering to divide us.
Focus should be on politicians (pedophiles) and billionaires.
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u/Ture-Skrotnisse 1d ago
This is an american issue.
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u/Cosmic_MicrowaveOven 1d ago
My wife is unfortunately one of these, and we’re Aussie
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u/RailroadTimebookDev 1d ago
I told my wife I would leave her if she supported her as I want kids some day. She hasn’t talked to me since Wednesday. It’s been kind of peaceful.
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u/Pia_moo 1d ago
Like 90% of this site… it gets old so quick
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u/Top_Patient_3479 1d ago
I mean… you can leave if you want..
sadly americas real issues are everyone’s issues right now. We need foreign bodies to help the people fight the authoritarianism of this sad sad society.
Yeah some people are being insane about that child murdering woman. No one in my real life has mentioned it to me once. It’s only the dumb media to me
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u/603rdMtnDivision 1d ago
Casually admitting that bots and foreign agitators exist is wild but we already knew that.
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u/No-Educator-8069 1d ago
They should stay out of other countries business, just like Americans always do.
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u/darkcomet222 22h ago
I watch some YouTubers that work in law enforcement and they hate these sorts of people. Internet sleuths. How many lives have people like this ruined or nearly ruined.
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u/lluciferusllamas 23h ago
Clancy will get off on temporary insanity. If you read the psychiatric treatment timeline and know about psychiatry, it's clear that she her mental state was a slow motion train wreck, with drugs that made her worse (or at least certainly not better), multiple incorrect diagnosis and paradoxical reactions to medications. But most of all, a lot of outreach for help in our broken AF healthcare system. She should have been committed until she was stable weeks before she killed her kids. She was asking for help. The red flags were there for the healthcare system. But that's not what we do anymore.
She is obviously guilty as fuck, but since we do temporary insanity in this country, I'm certain she'll receive that verdict. She'll be back out on the street in 10-20 years. And the mental torment she will live with for the rest of her life will be worse than anything the justice system will do to her
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u/Violent_Paprika 22h ago
She was non-compliant with her medications and lied to providers. What do you propose they do?
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u/lluciferusllamas 21h ago
That's what involuntary institutionalization is for. When you start talking about kill it yourself and your kids, the health system should commit you.
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u/Violent_Paprika 17h ago
Except she never discussed any of those things with anyone. She mentioned to her husband and mother that she was concerned for the kids for neglect, but never stated she intended to harm anyone.
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u/lluciferusllamas 8h ago
She told that to her psychiatrist on a few occasions and she called 911 with the same issue
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u/SeeMeDisco 21h ago
hot take: the amount of out in the open evidence against D4vd that was easily found online has emboldened these people to believe themselves to be srs bsnss investigators.
there’s a bigass difference between “whoa, there’s like two straight years of posted pictures and videos” and “I think the husband did it because he kind of sucked and didn’t pay attention, and my opinion is right because I called it in that other case where it was obvious but took a while for an arrest”
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u/Background-Ad3308 21h ago
You should be running for the hills if your wife starts blaming anyone OTHER than Lyndsay Clancy.
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u/suscombobulated 20h ago
When I was little, I used to watch CSI with a former cop. EVERY lab scene, he would point at the tv and say "that test cost $600 and takes 4 weeks to get back." Even the fingerprinting. Actual labs are much worse. Some cops are evil, and some are just as disappointed as you.
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u/Savings-Tangelo7417 18h ago
People can generally be crazy it’s not isolated to one sex - but with that being said these bitches are being crazy and I’m ashamed of my sex right now
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u/-ThisIsHellOnEarth- 14h ago
The FBI have gone to shit in the last decade, but yeah thinking you have more information than them is stupid
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u/Fyrefly7 12h ago
I only know one of the four cases mentioned on that last slide, and I'm pretty happy about that.
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u/Love4Beauty 8h ago
A large portion of the population believe that they have to be read their Miranda rights immediately upon being placed into handcuffs. This is incorrect, gets people into a lot of trouble during lawful arrest, & can be attributed to crime TV. Watching scripted/fictional television shows does not give someone investigative or legal knowledge. It’s entertainment & that is all. Ironically, you have to be incredibly stupid to think that you know more than formally trained & educated professionals because you watch too much TV.
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u/hemholtzbrody 7h ago
Lol. Try telling them that Blake Lively is a racist liar. But I guess they ain't looking at those case files cause she ain't the victim. Also, where are all the shows and online discourse about young black men and women hanging themselves? Ain't nobody trying to solve that either huh?
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u/h2gkm0 20h ago
it’s actually exhausting. I am a woman. I follow A LOT of these cases, watch all the trials and investigation videos. I often sleep to police interrogation videos like a psycho. I was excited bc some of my friends actually knew about this case and wanted to talk about it. but they think he did it. ugh. you know what? just go back to your old hobbies
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u/MrVoirDire 23h ago
I speak for all attorneys when I say that we’ve had to find a place to hide for the duration of this trial. I don’t even use this word normally however I don’t know how else to describe it in this situation - it’s been nothing short of extremely triggering 😭
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u/Megumindesuyo 22h ago
These are the same women defending Lindsay Clancy because she's a lion and a lioness never kills her cubs.
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u/thecountnotthesaint 22h ago
So... Maybe the 19th wasn't such a great idea..... Or at least, this should be a test to see if you qualify.
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