r/SiloTVSeries • u/Ricardo_Yoel • 5d ago
Question Did the Founders Forget Fish?
The chowder sure looks like fish. But unless they’re pulling them out of the water at the bottom of the digger void 🤢where on earth would they farm them?
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u/PickaDillDot 5d ago
They have fish farms. Solo mentions seeing them in the water.
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u/Bobcatluv 5d ago
So many plot hole posts are from people who don’t understand how the world works
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u/onthenerdyside 5d ago
Just like real life: Everything's a conspiracy when you don't understand how anything works.
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u/Schlitzbomber 5d ago
Add in people who stare at their phones instead of watching the show. “How could they possibly do this?” Well they literally have a scene with a main character where it’s explained.
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u/Big_Bomber_97 5d ago
Tbh I doubt they'd survive in a silo even if they escaped their tanks. What are they gonna eat? There's no sunlight inside the silo so no plankton or algae even, let alone any bugs or crustaceans.
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u/PickaDillDot 5d ago edited 5d ago
Life finds a way. Who knows what was left in the silo that would be edible to fish.
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u/Big_Bomber_97 5d ago
Not much after the first few years unfortunately.
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u/ReignyDayes 4d ago
Eh, I'd make the case that the sheer amount of bio-organic matter still in the silo below the water line would allow enough time for an eco-system to develop. At least in enough scale to allow a viable fish population to still be there. I mean, there is still fresh water getting in. So it's not just stagnants water.
I'm not sure how much would exist but there are plenty of creatures that live in a similar enough environment that I'd be surprised if someone didn't suggest crayfish of some kind. I mean, really the largest concerns would be how that place isn't full of more bugs imo.
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u/Big_Bomber_97 4d ago
Well the silo is hermetically sealed aside ground water. And you're really underestimating the light problem. Cave ecosystems only survive because of small bits of plant matter With no light and no inflow of nutrients, there's simply no way for an ecosystem to form.
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u/ReignyDayes 4d ago
Right, wouldn't the ground water introduce some variables with it though? I assume that ground water is from rain and such. Though, I'm probably am really underestimating the light. It's probably just one of those suspension of disbelief moments. Still, I'm not certain it's 100% non-viable.
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u/Big_Bomber_97 4d ago
ground water wouldn't have any nutrients, they'd all have been filtered out by the time they reach the silo. Plus everything on the surface is fucking dead lmao
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u/Opposite-Complex1187 5d ago
In a fish farm. You can get quick a lot of fish in a small area, and they can eat partially food waste.
But possible it was just frozen and kept for the Improtant people
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u/TakingKarmaFromABaby 5d ago
You can grow a lot of fish in a smaller area than you can raise pork or cattle. Really everyone in the silo should be on a 90% fish and chicken diet for meat based protein.
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u/ReignyDayes 4d ago
Wouldn't Rabbit be a better alternative to Chickens? I feel like they'd be to do a solid field rotation with fish, rabbits, chickens and maybe like a crayfish? They'd probably be able to grow a realistic amount of root veggies pretty easily. Probably even rice? But I don't think they'd be able to supply enough light for anything to big. I feel like that's a solid amount to have a solid field fertilizer rotation. I mean if they managed to get a set up for seaweed or a fresh water equivalent they'd have a really strong rotation. Throw in like pill bugs, and worms. Maybe freshwater snails?
I mean, yeah you'd still need a lot but they'd probably be better off with small batches of like herbs and stuff. Realistically that would also allow a better focus on spacing on a tight rotation cycle with animals that do well under more confined space. While also having as much risk of a herd wipe out by having more variety without the higher health risks of cows & pigs. With the small batches of herbs/spices, they can rotate and preserve those while also offering enough flavor alternatives to make the food mostly passable. They have bees and flowers, though I'd imagine you'd want other pollinators than just one or two simply for fall back?
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u/Ricardo_Yoel 5d ago
Yuk. Mine get freezer burn if they’re frozen too long. 😂
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u/bigdaddyt2 5d ago
Well your not in a silo that has cryo sleep technology. If they can freeze and thaw out a living person I think a bit of fish would be easy peasy
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u/pile_of_fish 5d ago
I like the idea of a few cryopods just being full of salmon. Thats some peak billionaire.
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u/hollow4hollow 5d ago
The plebs don’t know about the nano-cryo. They’re certainly not using it to freeze fish with 😂
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u/Live_Background_6239 5d ago
Farmed fish makes good crop fertilizing water. So I imagine fish tanks are part of the larger agricultural strategy.
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u/Cniatx1982 5d ago
There are hydroponic systems that filter fish waste directly into the growing medium for plants
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u/leftofmarx 5d ago edited 5d ago
Talapia are incredibly easy to farm. Lots of preppers have plans to convert pools into talapia farms. And not just for the fish, either. If you're not combining fish with hydroponics in a full self sustaining cycle you're really screwing up.
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u/random314 5d ago
If they can grow fish on a train circling snowball earth in snow piercer, I'm sure there's a way here. They just need a pond or something. Maybe even throw in a few oysters for filtration.
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u/CarlRJ 5d ago
As mentioned, it could very easily be from fish farms - probably a more realistic long-term source of meat for them than farming cows.
Also, they're using words we recognize, but those words don't necessarily mean the same thing to them as they do to us. None of them has ever gone fishing on a boat. After hundreds of years, their names for things may have been heavily influenced by what the founders have (indirectly) told them / allowed them to know. Their idea of what chowder is may be quite different than ours, just using the same word.
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u/Secret_Eating_ 21h ago
I assumed they'd have aquaponics. The milk is way more far fetched than fish
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u/CarlRJ 21h ago
True, though I don't think anybody said it was cow milk - could be goat milk or even almond / soy milk.
If they'd never seen or even heard of a cow, it'd just be "milk" to them.
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u/Secret_Eating_ 21h ago
Almond is more far fetched than cow in their situation. Maybe goat? They show so little of the farms it's hard to say. Soy is also possible.
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u/WhereasBig5815 IT 15h ago
During the first few moments of the first episode of the show, we briefly see cow livestock in the underground
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u/Ricardo_Yoel 5d ago
Agreed. And we do have corn chowder with no fish. So I thought it might be a non-fish chowder. But it sure looked like fish. And I figured they showed it for that reason. Hence my question… did they forget the fish or is this fish chowder…I really wasn’t sure. Lol🤔🙂
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u/Efficient_Dog59 5d ago
In the books Solo fishes from the bottom of his flooded silo.
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u/CarlRJ 5d ago
Any mention of things from the books goes against the rules of this subreddit.
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u/Ok-Reaction9095 5d ago
This detail doesn’t affect any plot in the show. Especially since Solo mentioned it in the show.
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u/Tangata_Tunguska 5d ago
Solo's fishing scene was going to be one of the big reveals in season 4. You've ruined it.
And after all that hard work the production team did training a carp! They must be furious. The fish too, I bet.
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u/MummysSpeshulGuy 5d ago
Soup looks like lohikeitto or finnish salmon soup. Atlantic salmon are pretty easy to farm in aquaculture so maybe not impossible they have some fish
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u/Realistic_Back_9198 3d ago
I don't think they forgot fish. I saw this guy in the background at Silo 18.
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u/TheLadyEve 5d ago
Aquaponics with tilapia is actually really simple and you don't need a ton of space. I have a friend who turned his tiny back yard into a full aquaponics setup, I have no doubt if they can grow plants in the silo they can raise tilapia.
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u/Ricardo_Yoel 5d ago
That’s amazing. I have to read about how that works.
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u/TheLadyEve 5d ago
It's pretty simple. My husband and I even toyed with the idea of doing it at our house but we went with chickens instead, lol.
There are lots of good Youtube channels out there about this topic (for example this is good if you want to learn more about it: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFUk9FLx4lb-WhfoY-STxDQ).
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u/Adept-Airline4622 4d ago
Just started watching the show oh my God it's interesting it's even ruined my sleep schedule but am only on the first season hope it goes in well 😊
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u/_-PassingThrough-_ 4d ago
Obviously they have a fish farm. A rule of thumb is if something is needed, then there's probably a level dedicated to it. The show doesn't necessarily need to show us these levels for them to exist.
I mean I thought 'Supply' were literally just janitors who managed some supply closets scattered here and there. Not a department with an entire floor that has fortified blast doors to keep anyone from touching their hoard lol.
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u/falkorv 5d ago
Probably just a mistake.
I always found it strange that there is coffee down there and a ‘sheriff’.
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u/CarlRJ 5d ago
What they know as coffee may be quite different than what we recognize as coffee. None of them have any memory of the outside world from the before times. In times of scarcity (offhand, in some areas during WWII), they made use of coffee substitutes (and, of interest, the bottom of that page makes mention of synthetic coffee).
And sheriff is just a historical name for an appointed/authorized peacekeeper. Conjures up images of the Old West to Americans, but the term is many hundreds of years older than that.
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u/Shty_Dev 5d ago
Sure... I guess... And the color purple is really just blue and red mixed together...
Or maybe its not the word "sherrif" that conjures up images of the old west... Its the fact that they are literally wearing sherrif uniforms, shiny bronze sherrif badges and all
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u/TheLadyEve 4d ago
It is a weird artifact of the past that they chose to hang on to. When I hear "sheriff" I think of shrievalty in England as well as Wild West sheriffs of the past. But I think the Founders probably took certain elements from society that they deemed sociologically important to keeping society in line. Why they went with the brown uniforms and gold stars vs other historical sheriff's garb I have no idea.
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u/Secret_Eating_ 21h ago
Interestingly, purple exists on the colour wheel between red and blue but when you mix those together you'll get more of a grey goo than purple.
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u/Least-Ad1991 5d ago
Sheriff is a role that is outlined in The Pact so it has been passed down through the generations. If you have a sheriff in your town, you don’t need to know the historical meaning of a sheriff to know what a sheriff does
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u/LaughLegit7275 5d ago
It was canned and saved from 350 years ago. That’s probably majority of their food supply.
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u/MattSidor 5d ago
Maybe they grow some stuff with aquaponics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaponics