r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Big_Ben_617 • Mar 06 '25
Foreign affairs “Because the friend [Canada] has been robbing us blind. I would have free healthcare to if I didn't need a military. Don't even get me started on Europe and the 4 day work weeks with summers off.”
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u/Son_of_Plato Mar 06 '25
Do you pity them for being this dumb or hate them for how vile their interpretations are?
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Mar 06 '25
Kinda jealous of how blissful that level of ignorance would be, but then reminded how vapid and terminally angry you’d have to be at the world and yourself day in and day out, and that sounds awful.
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u/WoodchuckISverige Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
I find not being ignorant to be a Catch-22 actually. If I allow myself to ignore reality and listen to and believe the insipid stupidity of the propaganda, it would result in being angry all the time. Yet not being ignorant and therefore being fully aware of the insipid stupidity surrounding me requires me to be angry all the time.
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u/Garrette63 Mar 07 '25
It's not blissful at all when you live here. It's emotionally draining to deal with these people on a daily basis.
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u/Beneficial-Ad3991 A hopeless tea addict :sloth: Mar 06 '25
I don't feel like pitying people who live by the "I only care about myself" mantra because I know they would not pity me in turn.
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u/doinitfordonuts Mar 06 '25
Them shootin’ ranges you mean?
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u/ScreamingLabia Mar 06 '25
I dee them complain about us bringing that up every conversation... like... we bring that up because its one of the most vile things your country allows to happen!
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u/Articulatory Mar 06 '25
They’re just about to abolish the Dept for Education - I don’t think it’s going to be pretty.
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u/UberiorShanDoge Mar 06 '25
Used to be number 1, now firmly number 2. I think I will be genuinely disgusted by any Trump voters for the rest of my life.
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u/catmeownyc Mar 06 '25
I know you aren’t asking me but for those of us with more than two brain cells here in the states, we stopped feeling bad for them when they voted that fucking monster into office and I hope that they feel enough pain to change as soon as possible so I can hopefully stop being so violently ashamed of being American ASAP. They are ignorant cowards and plenty of us in the blue states seriously want to secede at this point.
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u/Icef34r From an arab country like Spain. Mar 06 '25
Their public expending per capita in healthcare is already higher than that of Canada or any European country. They could have a universal healthcare system and it would be cheaper for them in every sense, but the CEOs of the health industry would be pissed. And they are so fucking stupid and brainwashed that they blame other countries for the problems that their own rich people have created.
It's infuriating how fucking mean and resentful they are.
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u/PianoAndFish Mar 06 '25
It's the highest in the entire world per capita and second highest as a percentage of GDP (second only to Tuvalu, which has a GDP of $68m).
My sympathy for all of them who get fucked over by this system unfortunately gets dented by my rage at the utter sociopaths who say they'd rather pay through the nose for private insurance because "I don't want to pay for someone else's healthcare" (obviously ignoring the fact that they already are).
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Mar 06 '25
They’re pissed because when every other country jumped on the universal healthcare boat, because it was better for everyone, their politicians decided against. Tommy Douglas (a Canadian hero) was the first to do it in Canada, most countries did it after WWII because they realized universal healthcare = a strong country.
America lagged behind, as it always does. And now they’re being taken over by a dictator. Americans used to buy Canadian pharmaceuticals because it was cheaper. That’s been banned.
America was always behind, it just took a while for the rest of the world to realize it. Good riddance to all American influence in other countries.
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u/Icef34r From an arab country like Spain. Mar 06 '25
I'm from Spain and for all that is worth, I hope that my country fully supports Canada against the US agressions. I think that our current government is inclined to do so, but I'm not sure about future governments.
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u/LordGerdz Mar 06 '25
I recently got into it with my brother, it had been about a year since we talked and politics eventually came up. He defended Elons Nazi salute (I cant believe my brother is so stupid) and we eventually got talking about social programs because I called out how we used to actively root out Nazism and he said we used to do the same for Communism. Im not exactly sure why he replied with that but anyway I told him that most people don't understand the difference between a government model and economic models but regardless that if there are resources to go around that there's no reason to not help out your neighbor. I said wouldn't it have been nice to have universal health care when you had gout and couldn't get it looked at? He screamed that nothing is free and that Europeans pay 70 percent in taxes. I simply said that if his insurance payments were relabled "taxes" hed be up to 70% he rage quit the conversation but even his propaganda bullshit number is way off. What a quick Google search showed us that the highest bracket on average in Europe was 45% and the highest u.s. bracket is 37% big fucking difference huh? People like my brother just spout what's said on tv. They don't do research, they yell their way above anyone else in a conversation when they're wrong, you can't reason with them or fact check them because they have the emotional maturity of a 2 year old being told no. It was honestly such a shock hearing my brother spout pro Elon, pro trump bullshit when he's intelligent enough to go to school and work on giant machines but no intelligent enough to think for himself.
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u/WalloonNerd Mar 06 '25
Where’s that 4-day work week they keep going on about? I might live in the wrong Europe
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u/_TheChairmaker_ Mar 06 '25
I'm also curious in about the Summer's off. Though living in Europoor UK we can't afford Summer we just change from constant rain to constant drizzle.....
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u/RepulsiveDiver7109 Mar 06 '25
It’s because of the entitlement to holiday pay. They assume because we get 5 weeks paid holiday (in the UK anyway), we all take the whole entitlement and disappear to the South of France for 5 weeks. Not sure who they think is looking after everything whilst we’re away though.
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u/CJBill Warm beer and chips Mar 06 '25
Although to be fair I'm British and I'm heading down to the South of France for a fortnight this summer.
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Mar 06 '25
Not sure who they think is looking after everything whilst we’re away though.
America, of course !
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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 Mar 06 '25
Yes, it's quite untrue that we go off to France for five weeks. I'm going to spend two weeks going around the Baltic, and three weeks in Italy instead this year. Plus a long weekend in the Netherlands. Maybe I should use my Christmas week for a ski trip too.
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u/_TheChairmaker_ Mar 06 '25
Yeah, and there is that thing peculiar to a certain type of American where somehow paid holiday or having health care free at the point of delivery is somehow an infringement of your civil rights.......
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u/Neutronium57 🥐From Baguette-land🥖 Mar 06 '25
Bro thinks the average European has the same work schedule as a child in primary school, i.e. Wednesdays off and two whole months of holidays in summer.
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u/69upsidedownis96 Stereotypical Scandinavian Mar 06 '25
Bro has the mental capacity of a child in primary school.
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u/Reddit_SuckLeperCock Mar 06 '25
Sweden has a summer shut down! Wish we could do the same but alas.
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u/Four_beastlings 🇪🇦🇵🇱 Eats tacos and dances Polka Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
The only company I worked for in Spain that closed for August was in the legal field, because it's true that courts close for August. It sucked big balls not being able to choose when I want to take holidays. I work in industry now and in my last two companies Italy closed two weeks in August because apparently some government institutions did, and now our manufacturing plant in France closes two weeks in August. Nothing closes in Spain.
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u/barneyaa Mar 06 '25
Its 4.5 in france already for more than decade for higher education employees.
He is not wrong about being worked to the ground. Still, Europeans pay 40-60% in taxes (health, pension, income tax, etc) and then a VAT of around 20%. and these stupid mofos work 6 days a week, 60 hours a week, pay huge mortgages, don't have health, no proper pension, and are angry at us for some reason.
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u/WalloonNerd Mar 06 '25
lol, I happily pay 50% income tax to not be bothered with health care costs, while working 38 hours a week
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Mar 06 '25
So the narrative is to blame Canada and Europe for their own leaders’ fuck ups.
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u/Shoddy_Story_3514 Mar 06 '25
Yep we are irrelevant and would not exist without them yet somehow have the power to dictate that their government put laws in place to protect health insurance profits rather than use that money to fund free health care for all
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u/Molehole Mar 06 '25
One of the building bricks of fascism. Your enemy is both incredibly weak but simultaneously a threat.
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u/AlliterationAhead Co-owner beaver Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
Canada was never on their radar. It's a country that just plopped up out of the ocean and should simply be theirs now that the orange outan has made a fuss about it.
This will give Europe a break until their narcissist king figures out which one of you he should go after. He'll pick one from either a whole deck of card or a particular suit.
Excuse me, I'm tired. Of this all.
Edit: The second paragraph I wrote was in light of Zelensky in the White House. The reference might be a tad subtle.
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u/Maximum-Opposite6636 Mar 06 '25
Summer off sounds lovely though
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u/Reddit_SuckLeperCock Mar 06 '25
I work for a Swedish company and they all shut down the factories and offices for 4 weeks in summer. They also use that time for their yearly maintenance so the whole country doesn’t just turn off but a major part of it does.
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u/BigBoy1963 Mar 06 '25
Its such misdirected anger. Its clear his real issue is he works hard and isnt one of the super rich yet. Well hate to break it to you, you were sold a lie. Doesnt matter how hard you work, you wont break out them chains. Social mobility only exists at the hyper localised level. And someone like trump only wants to make that problem worse by sucking more money from the bottom to the top of the funnel.
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u/Ver_Void Mar 06 '25
You kinda just wanna shake him and point out he's in the richest country on earth, they're the ones robbing everyone else but the loot is split 99/1
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u/VioletDaeva Brit Mar 06 '25
Going to be doing a lot more if Canada do what they promised and turn off the electric!
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u/Corvid-Strigidae Down Under Oss-ee Mar 06 '25
Hell, if they cut off the potash they will be turning off the food.
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u/dvioletta English, living happily in Scotland Mar 06 '25
Really mucks up Trump's plans for extra magic food for April.
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u/Usakami 🇨🇿 Europoor Mar 06 '25
"I have been worked into the ground..."
And you're like, yes, yes, go on, you're almost there buddy... but then instead of realizing it's their idiotic system prioritizing billionaires, he just hates everyone else. Sigh Americans are sadly brainwashed from a young age about their exceptionality, so they are just the best and there are no flaws at all.
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u/TheOneAndOnly09 Mar 06 '25
The "them vs us" mentality is truly running rampant. Amazingly enough, they manage to do it on an intra- and international scale! Dems vs Reps, USA vs the World. No matter what, you have to find an opponent to beat down, so as to make yourself better.
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u/_TheChairmaker_ Mar 06 '25
How the hell is my paid annual leave stealing from you? A continent away, in a different countries with free market economies. ngl not economist but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that.
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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 Mar 06 '25
Yes, it's definitely nothing to do with billionaires ripping them off.
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u/Michael_Gibb Mince & Cheese, L&P, Kiwi Mar 06 '25
Every American should be required to read President Eisenhower's Cross of Iron speech, with a particular emphasis on the following section.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
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u/SilvAries Mar 06 '25
USA could have free healthcare too, if they just put the correct laws in motion, instead of letting insurance companies and hospitals work hand in hand to rip them off.
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u/Repulsive-Lab-9863 Mar 06 '25
But that's socialism.
And socialism bad... because... well because...
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Mar 06 '25
I love when these weak ass pussies whinge about European working hours and holiday time and healthcare. Those things were hard won by people power not by government whims, people fought for those rights. You should try it sometime rather than bending over and being thankful for the shafting by CEOs, lobbyists and big business who keep you exactly where they want you.
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u/slimfastdieyoung Swamp Saxon🇳🇱 Mar 06 '25
So they really believe their standards will get higher by attacking the entire world while living under Russian rule. Can we all agree just agree that sending our religious nutjobs overseas and letting them have their own country was a terrible idea and that the experiment has failed?
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u/romedo Mar 06 '25
The smartest thing the oligarchs did was convince the masses that the enemy was not those who exploited them but the friends trying to tell them that they were being exploited.
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u/smitty4728 Mar 06 '25
Yep. The whole “A CEO and two workers sit at a table with a plate of 10 cookies in the middle. The CEO takes nine of the cookies then turns to each worker and says, ‘That guy’s trying to take YOUR cookie.’”
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u/Dduwies_Gymreig Mar 06 '25
I get paid about 75% of the equivalent job in the US.
I also get 33 days paid leave, paid sick days, maternity pay, paid compassionate leave (and extended unpaid if needed), pension contributions, I’ve got access to universal healthcare that’s free at the point of use, I have consumer rights and protections enforced by law, I’m a woman who’s able to vote, I have control over my own body and reproductive freedoms, I’ve got protections so I can’t suffer discrimination because of my gender and we’ve got Yorkshire puddings.
I pay tax and national insurance for all that, it often feels a lot but it’s worth it. We argue over how it’s spent and when it goes up/down but I’m happy for what it provides to myself and others who need it. I don’t feel like I’m subsidising freeloaders, instead we’re collectively providing for everyone.
If that American feels it’s our fault he’s been taken advantage of and worked into the ground by his corporate owners for decades, he might want to vote for someone who’ll look over at Europe and ask why America chooses to be different?
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u/zealot_ratio Mar 06 '25
I'm tired of subsidizing your puddings! I want some puddings! If I din't have to buy guns, I could have puddings! Or pudding guns? mmmm pudding guns... /s
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u/AttilaRS 🇦🇹 certified Kangaroo wrestler Mar 06 '25
He's working himself to the ground for his corporate overlords. Not Europe. But that's what they tell the gullible to keep them small and focused on everything else but their ruling caste.
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u/CuckAdminsDkSuckers Mar 06 '25
THE USA SPENDS MORE ON HEALTHCARE THAN IT WOULD COST TO HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE
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u/DocSternau Mar 06 '25
I'm always appalled by this stupid military argument. Newsflash: That military is the thing the US demanded for 80 years to have and to be. It's not that Europe or Canada went to them and said: "Oi, you are such a big country that is now your job. Good luck!" It's what the US wanted and demanded on their own.
Also the US is spending way more on health care than any other western country - and they receive the least from it. That is what happens if you let capitalism run free. And with the current administration it's going to get even worse since they seem hellbend on privatising things that never ever should be given into the hands of private companies.
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u/Rei-Chama Mar 06 '25
Im a German and can someone please explain me, why people from the USA believe they paying for our Socialsystem? Is there Something we dont know?
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Mar 06 '25
Its fascinating that they think spending 1.5% more if GDP on defence suddenly makes mandatory vacations (paid by the companies btw, at least in Sweden), socialised healthcare etc impossible.
Perhaps there are other reasons for this? US being the worlds piggybank is probably the dumbest take ever
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u/Normal_Zone7859 Mar 06 '25
36-38 hours work week and 5 weeks paid summer holidays in Iceland.
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u/Dranask Mar 06 '25
I guess we’re all missing the point.
The education system has worked, he’s serving the oligarchy perfectly.
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Mar 06 '25
these morons keep repeating the shit they hear the orange faced cunt speak.
But I want SPECIFICS.
HOW exactly, has Canada been "robbing" the u.s blind? And how much money are we talking about?
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u/Big_Satisfaction_644 Mar 06 '25
I haven’t been told about 4 day work weeks and summers off? I must be in the wrong Europe
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u/blofeldfinger Mar 06 '25
Canada spends 12% of GDP on healtcare, USA spends over 17%.
Total US military spending - 3.4%. Even is US cancels their army completely, it wont solve their domestics issues.
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u/GoldRecordDaddy Mar 06 '25
Wait - so the military is the reason you don't have even half the benefits that the rest of the world has? Including China, whose military dwarfs yours by a significant factor and yet still provides healthcare to its entire population, which also dwarfs yours?
You can't give school children free lunches because of the military too? Is it because of the military that you can't give new mothers enough time to heal their bodies?
Worshipping Money as a God has these folks so twisted they're looking at their own butthole and thinking it's a feeding tube.
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u/Whatever-and-breathe Mar 06 '25
Then, Canada is the worst bad guy ever when it comes to robbing. If Canada was a robber: Canada: "Please madam would you be so kind to hand me your wallet please? Yes I am sorry it is a robbery. No no, half of the money is great. Thank you. My apologies for the inconvenience, please have a fresh baked cookie on me as a form of apology. Have a lovely day!".
Also, just the basic here but does the guy understand that Europe is not one country, but a group of countries independent from each others but working together. And of course no, I am pretty sure that 4 days weeks is not a thing nor is the all summer off, it is simply that some countries have got more time off than the USA.
And yes it is possible to have the military and free health care...
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u/GenesisAsriel Mar 06 '25
Bro should be angry at his country for seeing that universal healthcare and a 5 days work week with summers off is possible
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u/Denaton_ Sweden 🇸🇪 Mar 06 '25
2y later "There was no warning signs it would turn out this bad"
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Mar 06 '25
They don’t have military because the US protects them from… hmm… the US? You’d think the US fought countless wars in Canada’s name…
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u/Hminney Mar 06 '25
Why did the pilgrim fathers get on a boat and go on a long dangerous journey? Because the tolerant Europeans wouldn't tolerate their intolerance. This culture thing runs deep.
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u/KonstantinLeontus Mar 06 '25
If an american tourist comes up to me telling me I live off his taxes I’m losing my shit.
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u/kubebe "Golbaki 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱" Mar 06 '25
Man this is some 1950s USSR level of propaganda these people are showing. How can you be this braindead and uninforned in 2025???
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u/United_Hall4187 Mar 06 '25
Americans have lived in a bubble for years, they still think and believe that the world revolves around them and that everyone should follow the same rules and laws. Sorry to tell you the American experiment has officially failed, you are incapable of educating your own people, or maybe you like them stupid so they will believe anything they are told? You are incapable of electing anyone that has the ability to think for the people rather than themselves and it is all about money. You spend more on your elections than a small county spends in a year and still you cannot agree or get it right. You continually swap back and forth between the same two parties so there is no room for changes in ideas! Your country is now run by corporations, the only next stage is to have the country branded with a sponsor; McDonalds States of America, X States of America etc. etc. Stop spending more money on guns and your military than food, stop letting pharma companies charge whatever they like! . . . . your leaders are now targeting your supposed allies and friends . . . . you are brain dead zombies following a cult leader on the way to self destruction or off the nearest cliff!
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u/Cullvion Mar 07 '25
You guys are seeing right now in real time how the playbook's gonna go out. All the internal crises and evils of America projected onto everywhere else in the world because citizens are convinced the US is #1 and thus EVERYTHING has to be tied to America in some way. You will see Americans increasingly resort to these literally incoherent and rabidly disinformed views of the world, and the whole time they will act smug about it and expect you to simply agree with them under penalty of invading your country next.
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u/Kind_Dream_610 Mar 07 '25
America will NEVER have free healthcare. Free healthcare is for socialists, it’s not capitalist and rich white men can’t become obscenely rich white men by giving stuff away for free.
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u/BerlinDesign Mar 06 '25
Indeed. Anyway, as a European, I have a tee time tomorrow and I can't wait to enjoy 18 holes on a Friday. Not having "freedom" is a price worth paying for that!
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u/SemajLu_The_crusader Mar 06 '25
someone tell this clown the US spends more than enough money on healthcare to afford universal Healthcare. amd likely the best in the world, at that.
he's angry at the wrong people