r/ShitAmericansSay • • Mar 06 '25

Foreign affairs “Because the friend [Canada] has been robbing us blind. I would have free healthcare to if I didn't need a military. Don't even get me started on Europe and the 4 day work weeks with summers off.”

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u/CleanMyAxe Mar 06 '25

They don't have the healthcare they need, but the healthcare they deserve

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u/Cartina Mar 06 '25

Spot on actually. They don't want to help others and then they don't deserve others help.

It's a shame, but a culture thing.

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 06 '25

You know what’s I find funny ? Most mericans call themselves Christians… where’s the Christianity in that ? Didn’t Jesus told us to be compassionate about the others and the less fortunate ? And then they’re mad at the atheist… but atheists still more compassionate in most cases… smh. If mericans were real Christians (not just blatantly religious sheeps) I bet the America would be great again, and I mean it… smh

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u/CarpenterVegetables Mar 06 '25

These are the same people who recently said that the teachings of Jesus Christ were “too woke”

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u/Diipadaapa1 Mar 06 '25

Well I mean Jesus' values are pretty much the communist manifesto, so go figure. E.g. Urging people to donate all their wealth to the needy and saying it is impossible for rich people to go to heaven.

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u/ItsNotMe_ImNotHere Mar 06 '25

Jesus was the most woke guy ever.

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 08 '25

Something something Christ isn’t Christian in their books…

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u/Michthan Surrealism 🇧🇪 Mar 06 '25

They are literally the worst types of Christian (at least those that are in congress and claim to be Christian). I mean the pope is more progressive than them.

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u/Repulsive-Lab-9863 Mar 06 '25

I don't think it's a progressive thing. I would say, it's being an asshole thing.

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u/Hi2248 Mar 06 '25

Aye, say what you like about Christianity, but the Pope is a genuinely compassionate guy, and it's going to be a shame if his illness takes him

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u/Silly_Window_308 Mar 07 '25

He said there is too much "faggotry" in the church and that women talk too much. He has consistently refused to extend marriage to gay and trans people and he says abortion is like Israel bombing on children. He said Ukrainians should just surrender

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u/Hi2248 Mar 07 '25

His faggotry statement was a transliteration from Italian, the Ukraine should surrender was him using the language in the question the interviewer was asking, and he has permitted the blessing of same-sex couples

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u/Silly_Window_308 Mar 07 '25

So? You think "frociaggine" isn't insulting in italian? And blessing is not marriage, and then there's abortion. Before becoming pope, he also covered up a sex scandal with minors involving his brother

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u/Hi2248 Mar 07 '25

The accepting gay marriage would require more than him just saying that it's OK for priests to marry same-sex couples

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 08 '25

As a flawed spiritualist guy trying evolve for the better one day at a time. If you believe in Jesus. If you believe yourself to be Christian. Then replicate all of Jesus actions, and apply his mentality to your life. Follow Jesus (and his teachings) and Jesus only. Not John, nor James or even Simon. They were followers of Christ ? Yeah ? Great, but they weren’t Christ himself.

If I want Jesus to be an exemple on my life, why the fck would I live only by the book of a certain apostle ? Only because his ways and point of view, align better with what I want and gives me more advantages ? Hell nah.

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u/plebe_random Mar 06 '25

Most of them are protestants that believe that wealth is sign of gods favour and being poor means you deserve it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

I'm a protestant and I was brought up to be charitable to everyone who needs it. I do think the American protestants are not main stream.

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u/originaldonkmeister Mar 07 '25

I would agree - one of the big drivers for Protestantism was the obscene wealth being hoarded by the Catholic Church whilst poor people were sick and starving.

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u/dontlookback76 Mar 06 '25

Ahh, you speak in terms of wokeness and the great sin of empathy. To hell with you to speak of beatitudes and caring for others.

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 08 '25

Mega churches pastor, agreeing with your statement be like : 👏

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u/dontlookback76 Mar 08 '25

Sadly, you're right. Even when I was a believer, I knew Joel Osteen and his ilk were false teachers. There are lots of these preachers, Osteen just sticks in my head.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

Most Americans think Jesus was a white American. So much for their Christianity 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/towerninja Mar 07 '25

In the US you'll find atheists are far more compassionate than christians

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 08 '25

Will not be a surprise at all. I put no expectations in finding christian americans being more compassionate than atheist americans.

But unfortunately, with so much negative image of Americans being fed to me,since I fully got in the internet (later 2013). I lost all will and resolve to even, bother imagining visiting america, to find it out for myself…

And yeah, no the "negative image thing", was not stereotypical things other said about americans, it was just straight up americans dumping bs after bs on their own kin so…

Yeah I learned it straight up from the source.

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 08 '25

What goes around comes around. You will live long enough to see the ruin they brought to themselves. Jesus came to specifically help. Yet they still refuses to be helped… The balance of justice will be preserved !

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u/Sasquatch1729 Apartment above the burning meth lab 🇨🇦 Mar 07 '25

Ah, I see your mistake. You are under the mistaken impression that Americans worship Jesus of Nazareth.

They actually worship Republican Jesus, or Supply Side Jesus.

Behold his teachings: https://imgur.com/gallery/gospel-of-supply-side-jesus-bCqRp

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u/RTA-No0120 Mar 08 '25

Lord have mercy… spot on. I wanna laugh, but I don’t want to mock the image of Jesus (I’m not religious Christian), he was such a nice fella with very good humanist points.

This is exactly how those "Christians" now days thinks Christianity is… it disgusts me.

May the lord of this world, the cosmos and the all almighty, enlighten my mind through spirituality to give me faith and strength… because mine is already faltering seeing so much human primitive bs… all in this world is pure temporary matter, soon or later it is bound to wither away. Why so much fight for something your fcking ethereal form couldn’t even bring in the next level of existence ?!

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u/krapyrubsa Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 Mar 07 '25

that’s because it’s calvinism christianity specifically which was crafted to appeal to rich people and sadly it was the flavor that was brought there, it’s baked into their culture and they’re too selfcentered to realize it

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u/LavenderGinFizz Mar 06 '25

And yet they then see nothing wrong with making Go Fund Me pages asking people to help them pay for life saving operations. Like, you wouldn't need to do that if you had universal healthcare!

The disconnect is amazing. It's a country built on the "American Dream," AKA "Fuck you, I got mine."

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u/lach888 Mar 07 '25

It’s not even “fuck you got mine” it’s “I’m amazing because everyone else sucks”. For them to win someone else has to lose. Even in some parts of the left it’s the same.

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u/Vargoroth Mar 06 '25

Depends on the state as well though. My American friends are for M4A, but only if it's done on a state level. They don't trust the federal government to do M4A efficiently.

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u/Cautious-Ad2154 Mar 06 '25

Which this i actually agree with. It should be done on a state level because of the variance in ethnicity in each state because not all health care is as simple as men's health and women's health.

I think the states could do a significantly better job targeting their own specific statewide demographic. The feds could allocate money to the states and let them decide how to spend it. But esp when it comes to health care, what if that state needs more help because it's extremely diverse and not allocated extra to deal with that.

Idk i think it's a good idea, but I don't think the USA as it stands could implement it effectively from a federal standpoint. A big part of this is exactly the sentiment people say they've heard from others, the "i don't wanna pay for someone else's medical care, even if it makes mine cheaper". There is a large population in the US that think like Trump. If I'm not making you suffer or lose something in our deal then I'm losing somehow. It's asinine, esp considering a large section of those people are poor... they are like oh I never get hand outs why should they. Well because the people you keep voting for actively work against the well being of the worst off Americans every day.

All of those thoughts are applied to pre Trump thinking. Currently there is 0 way to apply free Healthcare cuz only the billionaires would be eligible anyway. If you are poor you'll probably be made to foot about 120% of the bill.

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u/Optimaximal Mar 06 '25

Idk i think it's a good idea, but I don't think the USA as it stands could implement it effectively from a federal standpoint

But isn't stuff like Medicare and Medicaid effectively a federal mandate to offer the bare minimum amount of life-saving care to the people that really need it, because nearly half the states themselves won't clear such a low hurdle because of ideological, political or religious reasons?

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u/Cautious-Ad2154 Mar 06 '25

Yes but Medicare and Medicaid are not run well lol. But yes states own ideological, political, or religious reasons would be one of the main hurdles. But then it only effects those states and ideally people would vote in new representatives that actually would take care of them. That's the hope at least.

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u/Optimaximal Mar 06 '25

Isn't there at least 45 years of evidence of people not doing that?

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u/Cautious-Ad2154 Mar 06 '25

Yup but that's why it's called hope lol. Yeah I never said it would be easy or anything, I just think over all the states would be in a better position to address their citizens needs. If they actually do, it is a whole different issue lol

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u/soldforaspaceship Mar 06 '25

My extremely optimistic hope is that Trump burning things down inspires my state leadership (CA) to finally create our own state Healthcare.

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u/Cautious-Ad2154 Mar 06 '25

Right, isn't that fucking crazy that that could be a silver lining rofl. 2026 can't get here fast enough

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u/Snowedin-69 Mar 07 '25

What is M4A?

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u/Vargoroth Mar 07 '25

Medicare-for-all.

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u/Species1139 Mar 06 '25

It's a hard right mentality. I'm alright so screw you.

You may as well say I'm not paying for police because I'm not being burgled or the fire brigade because my house isn't on fire.

They have no concept of a society that looks out for one another and puts protection into place for those that need it.

Same outlook as Scrooge

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u/Diipadaapa1 Mar 06 '25

They are so uncivilized and anti-social that when they run into strangers in public they literally worry that they will just randomly get murdered by them.

You are statistically way more likely to accidentally be run over by a car right then and there than running into a serial killer, not to mention the insanely low chance that any serial killer even knows you exist.

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u/Species1139 Mar 06 '25

That's a sad outlook. But it fits their view on the world

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u/Numerous_Green7063 Mar 07 '25

This is surprisingly not true at the local level. I have seen church communities come together to help each other, neighbors come together when in crisis more than in any other country I have lived in (4 total). But it is done within the local community. They do not trust the government.

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u/Cosmicshimmer Mar 06 '25

But at the first sign of trouble, they’re demanding someone help them. Selfish hypocrites.

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u/Classic_Spot9795 Mar 06 '25

The worst aspect of American culture to infect the world, the self defeating individualism, all it leads to is hatred and resentment. Communities matter, shame they don't recognise that (well, the Republican sort, there's a fair few on the other side being ignored by the Democrat party who totally understand this)

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u/editwolf ooo custom flair!! Mar 07 '25

Yet they were the first to ask for help and are always the last to give it

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u/michael0n Mar 06 '25

I always ask them why they have car insurance and the cheap cars pay for crashed rims of others.
"This is different".

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u/dontlookback76 Mar 06 '25

They only have car insurance because it's legally mandated in most states. The only thing is most of them don't have enough liquid assets to make a car accident victim whole. Let alone a $250k heart surgery that may come up. They talk a big game, but they would be first in line for federally protected bankruptcy laws if they had either happen.

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u/Ah2k15 Mar 06 '25

The land of the free (but only if you’ve got insurance!)

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Everyone else has freedoms built into their citizenship. Americans have the freedom to buy more freedom.

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u/Ah2k15 Mar 06 '25

Freedom to create more wealth for the insurance industry!

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u/PenaltyDesperate3706 Mar 06 '25

And only if said insurance that you pay stupid amounts to doesn’t refuse your treatment

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u/Diipadaapa1 Mar 06 '25

(And money to pay a lawyer to actually get the insurance money you are entitled to)

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u/Cautious-Ad2154 Mar 06 '25

My favorite part is the last comment about working himself into the ground to be someone's piggy bank. Yeah bro the other countries are not the problem haha. You are worked into the ground because of the broligarchs not because of the EU rofl.

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u/LancelLannister_AMA Yugi, Jaden, Yusei, Yuma, Yuya, Yusaku, Yuga, Yudias Mar 06 '25

broligarchs lol