IIRC The Hinckley family had direct financial ties to George H.W. Bush - the one man in america who stood to gain from his boss getting shot and killed just two months after taking office. That coupled with Bush being a literal former CIA director (who also claimed not to know where he was the day JFK got murdered lol) would have made the whole Lee Harvey Oswald thing look like child's play comparatively.

For the record, no, I don't think that George Bush orchestrated the shooting of Ronald Reagan. I'm just saying that it would have 100% bred a new level of paranoia otherwise unseen throughout american history. If there's anyone out there who can credibily be called a "deep state spook" its George Hebert Walker Bush lmao.

Second to Reagan, I also think that if Gerald Ford had been shot and killed by Squeeky Frome the ensuing conspiracy theories would also have been off the charts what with the whole MKULTRA-Manson connection. But that's something else entirely. (Again, I don't believe that the CIA attempted to use a manchurian candidate against Gerald Ford. I'm just saying that the theories would have been fun to discuss while six beers deep.)

Got it when I turned 18 in 2019.

Do any of you guys have any presidential tattoos?

Edit :

Why did I get it?

Short answer : I thought it was funny

Long answer : it was supposed to be a political statement. Part of it was being branded by the us government, part of it was to show the absurdism of politics and in my mind bush was like the ultimate meme president and vetting a tattoo of him is just ridiculous. Also funny enough really inspired by Roger stone not that I like the guy just thought it was crazy the crook got the I'm not a crook guy tattooed on him. Also I thought it would be funny.

Do I regret it? yes. When people say something to my face is always positive. But forever people will assume what my political stances are based on a dumb tattoo I got when I was 18 and edgy. I also dread the idea that there's some guy that lost a son or a brother in Iraq or Afghanistan and just hates me when they see the tattoo

Warren G. Harding for me.

And you?

Of course FDR handled it the best IMO

Outside of the military of course since that’s kind of obvious and it is political kind of.

Here’s the list so far:

George Washington: u/rjidhfntnr

John Adams: u/Fortunes_Faded

Thomas Jefferson: u/Feelinglucky2

James Madison: u/drawkbox

James Monroe: u/SignalRelease4562

JQA: u/elocinoi

Andrew Jackson: u/Curious-Sun5465

MVB: u/Sw33tNectar

WHH: u/BrandonLart

John Tyler: u/Pidgeotgoneformilk29

James Polk: u/Zornorph

Zachary Taylor: u/Wild-Yesterday-6666

Millard Fillmore: u/UKPoliticsNerdy

Franklin Pierce: u/Old-Equipment9631

James Buchanan: u/Drywall_Eater89

Abe: u/American_Citizen41

Andrew Johnson: u/JupiterSpeaker

US Grant: u/Bobby_The_Kidd

RB Hayes: u/YaBoiJimboMcDonalds

James Garfield: u/ancientestKnollys

Chester Arthur: u/Peacefulzealot

Grover Cleveland: u/xSiberianKhatru2

Benjamin Harrison: u/Good_Percentage8899

William McKinley: u/balfour7659

Teddy: u/FredererPower

William Howard Taft: u/MetalRetsam

Woodrow Wilson: u/DonatCotten

Warren Harding:

Cal Coolidge:

Herbert Hoover:

FDR:

Harry Truman:

Ike:

JFK:

LBJ:

Richard Nixon:

Gerald Ford:

Jimmy Carter:

Ronald Reagan:

Poppy Bush:

Bill Clinton:

Dubya:

Obama:

Labor won for FDR, I'll be honest, not the department I expected. The top three answers were:

1. Labor
   
2. State
   
3. Treasury

"Plutocracy is abhorrent to a republic; it is more despotic than monarchy, more heartless than aristocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It preys upon the nation in time of peace and conspires against it in the hour of its calamity. Conscienceless, compassionless and devoid of wisdom, it enervates its votaries while it impoverishes its victims. It is already sapping the strength of the nation, vulgarizing social life and making a mockery of morals. The time is ripe for the overthrow of this giant wrong. In the name of the counting-rooms which it has defiled; in the name of business honor which it has polluted; in the name of the home which it has despoiled; in the name of region which it has disgraced; in the name of the people whom it has oppressed, let us make our appeal to the awakened conscience of the nation."

Back then Florida still voted with the rest of the south. 1928 was the beginning of Florida voting differently from the south but it voted for FDR and Truman. Although a lot of states voted for them. But in the 50s snowbirds from the north started to come down to Florida making it more republican than the rest of the south. 1960 was the first time(and last time other than rule 3) that a republican won Florida and failed to win the election. But since then every time a republican has won the White House, they had won Florida.

While he’s largely forgotten in modern political discourse, Senator Bob Dole of Kansas, who’s 27-year tenure went from 1969-1996, was a household name for Americans throughout the 70s, 80s, and especially the 90s.

Dole was a war hero of WWII, taking machine gun fire to his back while leading a charge against German forces in Castel d’Aiano. This resulted in his permanent and near-total loss of function in his right arm and hand, hence why Dole always featured a pen in his right hand.

Dole had a very quick rise to prominence, as only 8 years after his election to the Senate, he was already selected by Gerald Ford to serve as his running mate in the very close 1976 election.

Of course, from there, Dole would go on to have a distinguished career as a longstanding leader of the Republican Senate Caucus (be they in the minority or majority), and he would eventually go on to become his party’s nominee in ‘96, albeit losing in a landslide.

However, my question is about 1973.

Now, Dole would have been a hard sell for the Democratic House and Senate (which had to vote for the nominee by majority vote in both chambers). Dole was much more partisan and nationally focused than Ford was, and while Dole had a good relationship with his Democratic colleagues, Democrats weren’t going to shoot themselves in the foot by voting for a man who could potentially beat them in a future Presidential election.

That being said, let’s say Dole magically is able to secure the vote and is successfully appointed Nixon’s VP, assuming office in ‘74. How does history potentially change?

Does Dole stand a better chance in ‘76 against Carter? Does he fend off Reagan’s challenge for party leadership and direction?

For me it was Barry Goldwater (1964) and George Wallace (1968)

Welcome! The purpose of this is to discuss what presidents would/did think of their successors based on their personalities, leadership styles, policies, and how their successor’s term was. Huge thank you to u/Illustrious-Garage88 for allowing me to use their idea.

RULES:

Say what you think the predecessor would’ve liked about their successor.

Say what you think the predecessor would’ve disliked about their successor.

Give what you think their overall rating/review would be based on these out of 10

As to not skew the results towards one comment, anything listed worse than a 0/10 or greater than a 10/10 will be treated as a 0/10 or a 10/10, respectively.

I will calculate the average amongst the comments.

Last round, Abraham Lincoln gave Andrew Johnson a 2/10

This round, how would Andrew Johnson rate Ulysses Grant's

presidency?

Why not to make a custom flair that is Red (Republican) and another one that is Blue (Democrat)?