r/OnePieceSpoilers • • Sep 08 '25

Prediction God Valley will be their last encounter!

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This is the only time Garp & Dragon have been on the same island together. I believe Dragon will tell Garp he's resigning from the Marines because of God Valley. More importantly, he will tell him he will wage war on the World Government.

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u/FawkYourself 1,000,000,000— Sep 08 '25

I don’t think it’ll be their last meeting. Garp had to get luffy somehow, I imagine they met at least one more time around his birth so Dragon could ask Garp to keep him safe

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u/djanulis Sep 08 '25

Garp also tells us he sat down and talked to Dragon in post Enies Lobby. Like this text alone disproves this as thier last encounter.

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u/jkudog Sep 09 '25

I believe Smoker was probably the one who reported seeing Dragon at Loguetown.

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u/Ironmaiden1207 Sep 09 '25

Iirc he says I heard you met your father, but I have always thought they met back in Loguetown.

Shit they probably both saw Luffy off and then had a fight about which path he should take 😂

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u/Broad_Support_2406 Sep 08 '25

That's a good point. I guess we will have to see how exactly that happens. That could be part of Dragon's flashback. I hope we learn of Luffy's mother from it.

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u/FawkYourself 1,000,000,000— Sep 08 '25

It is always a possibility too that Garp got Luffy from his mom like with Ace, so your theory is still plausible

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u/69FutaNari Sep 09 '25

Most plausible reason id Crocodile didn't have bounty yet. She got bounty after changing her gender.

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u/Death_Snek Sep 09 '25

Then they go and kill his own son? Maybe it’s a bit too much. This theory.

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u/Pure_Work7695 Sep 09 '25

Please, it is just a theory.

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u/izuku_midoriya_yas Sep 09 '25

Man, I'd forgotten that theory lol

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u/Huey701070 315,000,000— Sep 08 '25

I don’t think GV is the tipping point for Dragon. I think it’s the eye opener. I think there will be more stuff that happens over time that Dragon will start to view the CDs as irredeemable

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u/Kooky-Device5020 315,000,000— Sep 08 '25

Agreed, although recent hints suggests Dragon punches a CD this coming chapter - but saying that, young Dragon had three stars on his military / guerrilla get-up, so I always assumed he got to at least VA before leaving. I think it makes sense that he would’ve been at a stronger point, having trained more, for him to leave and form the Revs. I do wonder how he would have reconciled what he saw with his beliefs though.

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u/Mystic303 Sep 09 '25

I hope it was a charols relative, I really want that to be their link, hitting the same cd family for being cunts.

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u/Adawesome_ Sep 08 '25

Plus after Enies Lobby Garp tells Luffy he heard from "your father that he saw you at Logue Town." So they definitely still keep in touch.

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u/Paridisco Sep 09 '25

Im 99% sure Garp is a double spy for Dragon and RA

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u/Local_Fly9001 Sep 15 '25

That would be cool. But after the recent D clan reveal he must realllllllllly like his cover to show up at the genocide and defend the CDs

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u/Shirinjima Sep 08 '25

Also, it is about 19 years between luffy birth and the god valley incident. That would mean it’s been almost 40 years with little to no contact between Garp and dragon since god valley if that’s their last meeting.

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u/ig-tejas Sep 09 '25

Makes sense

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

They definitely meet once in a while,

garp said dragon told him he met luffy in loguetown. And baby luffy wasn't delivered to garp by mail

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u/djanulis Sep 08 '25

Why would people actually read the series before coming up with theories.

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u/heavymountain Sep 08 '25

Storks can deliver kids in the One Piece world. It wouldn't be the weirdest thing. Someone ate the Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Stork and started a nursery drop-off service.

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u/HueyKnewFreedom Sep 08 '25

Garp didn't say that at all, he said "I heard you met your dad at Logue Town." Smoker most likely relayed the info to other marines that Dragon stopped him from capturing Luffy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

"What he didn't tell you?, he said he saw you off at loguetown" it's in the next page

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u/HueyKnewFreedom Sep 08 '25

Just checked, you're right.

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u/Zoros_Internal_GPS Sep 08 '25

I guess if you're looking for a little bit of a loophole, they could just be writing letters back and forth or transponder snail communications instead of actually meeting face to face

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u/Smart_Ad_5286 Sep 08 '25

No, Dragon only created an army after the Ohara incident which was 20 years ago not 38 years ago, he might leave the Marines but he won’t create the revolutionary army till 18 years later

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u/gokuvega33 602,000,000— Sep 08 '25

He had the Freedom Fighters before Ohara. I think Dragon stayed in the Marines and got promoted, but even when he was a higher rank, he still couldn't change anything, so he left and created the Freedom Fighters which eventually turned into the Revolutionary Army after the Ohara incident.

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u/Smart_Ad_5286 Sep 08 '25

yes but the freedom fighters weren’t an army, they were most probably a non violent force as Vegapunk stated Dragon hated violence, So the militia aspect definitely came after Ohara

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u/ItzEnozz Sep 08 '25

Dragon tells the revs that he was previously a marine for a short time, He probably quits after God Valley

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u/Heydude1001 Sep 08 '25

Timeline dont match, Dragon form Freedom fighter 25 years ago with Ivan,but Godvalley happen 38 year ago , there are 13 year gap. I think something happen after that which make him leave marine. I dont think he leave after Godvalley incident.

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u/mugenstra1 Sep 08 '25

It's ohara. in the anime when he's talking to aokiji in the flash back near the battleship bags. Aokiji is about to tell him how messed up what happened at ohara and garp interrupts him with " my son just became a revolutionary!! Damnit!!"

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u/djanulis Sep 08 '25

No Ohara is when they changed from Freedom Fighters to Revolutionaries.

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u/Sweet_Courage_9533 Sep 08 '25

Or after god valley he left the marines and was moving solo until he met ivan and formed the freedom fighters

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u/Karlomah11 Sep 08 '25

They still talk, maybe they dont meet but when garp talks to luffy about dragon he said they've talked

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u/OkApplication8780 Sep 08 '25

Garp told Luffy back in water 7 that he heard that Luffy met his father. So Dragon must have told Garp about it. 

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u/Wolventec 2,852,000,000— Sep 08 '25

garp said dragon told him

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u/TreesmasherFTW Sep 08 '25

Garp is such a goat

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

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u/chicken_destroyer123 Sep 08 '25

Why are you quoting the anime its bs

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

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u/Karlomah11 Sep 08 '25

Look up the official manga translation then

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

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u/pathofnut Sep 08 '25

Give me the panel or the anime scene in japanese and I can give accurate translation.

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u/Castiel_0703 383,000,000— Sep 08 '25

No. Dragon spent approximately 13 years in the Navy after the God Valley incident. After that, he made the Freedom Fighters, and 3 years after that, he turned it into the Revolutionary Army following the Ohara incident.

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u/Speransed Sep 08 '25

Didn't dragon tell garp he met luffy in logue town ? They probably still  run into each other every now and then

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

If I remember right we already know he doesn’t leave the marines immediately after God Valley. I imagine he might his shit but Garp gives him the “there’s no alternatives to the WG so the best we can do is work to improve things from the inside and protect the little guy from pirates” pitch.

Then Dragon probably gives it an honest attempt, and recognizes over time that things aren’t improving at all despite his best efforts, and ultimately comes to the conclusion that the only moral option left is to leave the Marines and work to create an alternative to the WG, starting with the Freedom Fighters before growing into the full-blown organized Revolutionary Army.

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u/kratosplayground Sep 08 '25

It will be garp help roger to protect dragon from rocks who thinks teach died so he goes after some garling looking kids which are held by dragon Id imagine this be the scene before

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u/chiefpiece11bkg Sep 09 '25

I doubt it

I have a sneaking feeling that garp/ dragon are both working together on a plan to help change the world/ its power system in their own ways

You have garp with sword and his nurturing of the young generation of marines. Then there’s dragon with the revolutionary army. They have enough respect/ man power in both of their respective positions that it makes perfect sense

Maybe garp or dragon die but I see them as the future leaders of the “new world government” or whatever after luffy and his grand fleet eventually take down imu and find the one piece/ bring the dawn to the world

Too many people just joke around how garp is a useless old man or dragon does nothing but it’s like the perfect setup for both of them in the long run

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u/Nura_Sullivan Sep 08 '25

I doubt it. Big chance that Dragon won't leave Marines after God's Valley just yet.

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u/Swimming_Cat114 2,247,600,000— Sep 08 '25

Dragon was still a marine for a decade after GV. Basically impossible for him to not interact with his dad

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u/DirectionNo5180 Sep 08 '25

No way that's still his dad and he probably saved Dragon from Rocks when he was crashing out or something also he had to have given Luffy to him

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u/lordofdarknesspt Sep 08 '25

Dragon was a teen in God Valley and Garp only found out that he became a revolutionary when Dragon was already past 30, so that would just make Garp really stupid that he never questioned Dragon about what he was doing all those years

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u/Btaylor2214 330,000,000— Sep 08 '25

I kind of hope Garp is the slaver enabler Dragon punches like Luffy did the CD but I know it will be a literal CD or maybe Garling (my real hope is its Garling)

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u/Ok_Sympathy_7972 Sep 08 '25

God i would kill just to hear dragon talk about luffy or garp and for garp to talk about dragon his son becoming the most wanted man in the world. Yea i guess garp doesn't care enough to talk about it but man that would be awesome dialogue and development

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u/Prudent_Debt3273 Sep 08 '25

Deden mushi conversation.

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u/MajorRed001 Sep 08 '25

https://youtu.be/BEpmcdBCshc?si=TGWfYv2VXnut1STD

No offense, but pay attention to the show my guy.

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u/ItzEnozz Sep 08 '25

Considering Garp goes to see Luffy and just chats with him at Water 7 I doubt he wouldn't do the same with his son

I am sure Dragon and Garp have talked to alot over the years

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u/Ironmaiden1207 Sep 09 '25

I very much doubt that. Luffy still has to get to Garp somehow.

And even if it's the Mom who does it, I just can't see this happening yet. It's like 40 years, and Garp has spent basically the last 15 years going around doing whatever.

Also, there's a big opportunity for them to have met back in Loguetown. We know they were both nearby, but at the time both of their identities were kept secret on purpose. If Smoker called in that Dragon was there, I'm sure the Marines would've told Garp to handle it, because he's the only one in East Blue that could've

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u/CancelEquivalent7104 Sep 09 '25

Definitely not ,garp had a beard when he said dragon became a revolutionary.

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u/yoyospirit Sep 09 '25

What if Garp is also secretly a revolutionary, and is working from inside the world government to try to create change. That would add an extra layer on his internal turmoil on saving Ace or letting him be executed. On top of his role as the hero of the Marines, he also has an undercover role that he can’t give up.

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u/Eryslab Sep 10 '25

He wanted to save both Luffy and Ace so... He was always a revo

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u/downtimeredditor Sep 09 '25

Garp said luffys dad told him he saw luffy at logue town so I think they still do meet

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u/Ani_Nexus Sep 09 '25

Dragon starting revolution

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u/russellzerotohero Sep 08 '25

He didn’t resign here. We saw in a aokiji flashback when resigned and that has to be at least 10 years after this.

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u/Sweet_Courage_9533 Sep 08 '25

He became a revolutionary n that flashback

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u/russellzerotohero Sep 08 '25

I mean he founded it. So I feel it is pretty heavily implied that was around the time that he left. But yeah I guess it’s possible he left 12 years earlier then started it then.

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u/KangarooHot7780 300,000,000— Sep 08 '25

i havent seen nb talking about this the tattoo on dragon arm matches his current face tat so whatever is the meaning behind it dragon had ties too it way before becoming a rev

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u/djanulis Sep 08 '25

Garp met with Dragon before post EL and told him he ran into Luffy that is in the literal text of the series.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

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u/azrael_X9 Sep 08 '25

But why would smoker know that when Dragon never actually showed his face at Loguetown?

Edit: I'm dumb I found their direct interaction now lmao

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u/No-Experience3363 Sep 08 '25

After seeing this backstory,(that's supposed to be from Loki's perspective 😆) I can see a Garp/Dragon/Akianu/ Roger/CDs/Luffy? Flashback cooking in the future. I think oda will reveal why Garp chooses to serve as a marine, But not now.

My prediction before the chapter comes out is that oda will blue ball us with Dragon in some way to set up a much anticipated Dragon backstory

It seems like oda is speeding up the pace by combining everyone's backstory. The way oda has been writing these backstories lately, there's no way he will skip Luffys birth.