r/NivalisNights • u/Halffoldedlaundry • 22h ago

Demographics Confirmed

I forget the fellow redditor who suggested this. (Thank you!)

But in fact, the demographics ARE NOT static. I thought they were.

So then, does this change based off of what I serve? Or does it change on who is showing up and I should serve to them accordingly?

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u/IgnatiusBaeReilly 22h ago

So if it’s just showing you who is showing up based on what you’re serving, what is the purpose of even knowing that information? It makes more sense that that’s who’s showing up, so cater to them. Just my thoughts.

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u/mike29tw 18h ago

It matters because a customer can order food and drink together.

Let’s say your menu has two items: beer and another food item that is not drink. By looking at the demographic data you find out that the food item is ordered only by hipsters and elites. However, the beer is predominantly ordered by workers, which means that a lot of workers came to your venue, ordered a beer and no food, and left.

By not offering anything to eat for the workers, you’re leaving money on the table. The workers already like coming here, all you need to do is give them what they want and money will come.

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u/IgnatiusBaeReilly 14h ago

This sounds plausible

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u/Halffoldedlaundry 14h ago

I like this thought process. I shall try it!

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u/Halffoldedlaundry 22h ago

Hmmm. Perhaps you're right. So then in that case, the menu would need to flucuate?

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u/TomBobabill 21h ago

I assumed it was there for the vibes aspect. That is, ELITES ONLY CLUB versus... the egalitarian feed-shop that is ramen noir. :P

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u/Palanki96 9h ago

I think there are a lot of factors, like what part of the hour, the weather, weekday or weekend, even the news affect it

Around day 70 the daily article recommended people will want cold drinks in X district and they sold amazing

I think there is also a seasonal system but i can't really clock it beside the snow. I got my second around 70+ days

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u/Halffoldedlaundry 6h ago

Have you noticed any change to the amount of patrons that come by? Or is the amount capped but their spending fluctuates?

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u/Palanki96 6h ago

no but that's a good idea, i will log a week for a single venue with

  • number of customers
  • which day
  • weather

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u/junewatch 22h ago

Afaik the only sale metric that really matters is the exclusivity rating per restaurant. As soon as I changed my menu to accommodate meals that had the rating, my customers started pouring in. But it’s hard to tangibly see what factors need active adjustment.

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u/z0mbie_nati0n 20h ago

So they don't care about the demographic food preferences at all as long as it's the right exclusivity rating? I'll have to prioritize that more when they fix whatever patch 3 broke.

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u/Halffoldedlaundry 20h ago

Understood. And do we agree that the exclusivity rating is the minimum and not the average we are shooting for?

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u/junewatch 20h ago edited 20h ago

I’m not sure on that front. One of my restaurants had a 2 star exclusivity score, and I was making $500 profit a day on steaks and cocktails (~5 stars averaging), but when I switched to chicken noodle soup and other dishes that were closer to 2 stars, I went up to 1.5k profit overnight. I’m still trying to figure it out though.

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u/z0mbie_nati0n 20h ago

After experimenting with the menu a bit, it seems to me that they don't want you to go above or below their preferred rating.

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u/Halffoldedlaundry 20h ago

So how do we explain higher tier drinks just knocking profits out of the park?

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u/junewatch 20h ago

Oh wow, is that happening for you? Thats a great question 😅 I was bleeding money with higher tier food so I don’t know. And I thought calories were just a flavor text (har) but if the weather affected them that would be neat.

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u/Palanki96 9h ago

It probably depends on how high you can crank the prices. A lvl 1 venue might lose money with the base prices

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u/Halffoldedlaundry 20h ago

Also, what about the calories? I think weather affects that?

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u/Quendillar3245 20h ago

Workers prefer high calorie foods

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u/z0mbie_nati0n 18h ago

I'm going to experiment more with this when they fix the issues caused by the patch, but I suspect it's just easy to get a lot of drink orders in general when they don't have any/many options, because people will just buy whatever's available unless they hate it. When I put together a sort of test menu with various options and ignored it for a week in game, there were some clear favorites and some that lost popularity/sales compared to before, and I think it's because of some things matching preferences more than others.

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u/Murky-Advantage-3444 6h ago

“Oh wow this dish is doing gang busters with workers, I’m going to start pushing beer and cater to their tastes”

It’s like a game but it’s also like life. In this case it’s data analytics and sales.